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8:00 PM
@Rapptz It is highly redundant.
 
sbi
@Rapptz That's easy: "Normal" social behavior is that which is similar to the behavior of the majority of the society's members.
 
@sbi Then that proves Ell's point. Normal people in society do not rape or murder.
 
sbi
@Ell No, because it reflects the offline world.
 
@Ell Nah, because there's permanent footage or other archives of the real world.
And you have unlimited access to them.
 
sbi
@Rapptz Nobody said normal people go around and rape and murder. What was said is that normal people can be made to do so.
 
Ell
8:01 PM
oh right I see
 
sbi
And left you're blind?
 
Ah, Alberto Ensteinius, "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice."
 
@sbi Probably. Though this would lead to a more intelligent discussion about why they would do those things.
 
sbi
@Rapptz Because such is part of being normal people.
 
Is it? I don't think so.
 
8:02 PM
Got gagged for 30 min... was it the Islam comment?
 
@enko What?
 
sbi
Haha, this is great: "He gave me his only iPhone charger because he knew I wanted to Instagram the farmer's market root vegetables. #indieromancenovel" — Erin Gibson
 
@enko what Islam comment?
 
Anyway, anyone who thinks that entire human history has been licking the boot of a feudal slave-lord hasn't studied history past high school grade level.
 
sbi
@enko Well, as I said, there was a flag I supported. And I really rarely do support flags around here.
 
8:04 PM
There are awesome societies of the past that could be used as example.
 
@enko u don't learn history in school. i would very much like to learn history. but very much not the school thing called "history"
 
Proto Russians, Incas etc.
 
sbi
@Rapptz Then please go back in the transcript to where @Ell said so and follow the discussion from there until you stepped in.
 
Even pre-Amon Ra Egypt.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Indeed. You should see what we learn in school.
Facts, facts, facts, facts, years, years, years, more facts and years. Oh, did I mention we also learn years and facts?
 
8:05 PM
sbi, I genuinely hope it wasn't your lever in an argument then.
 
@Tuntuni i'm guessing the usual, a sanitized thing with the appearance of not only being factual but being just a mass of dull facts
 
@enko Incas awesome? Wat.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Indeed and it makes me angry. :(
 
I'm lost - what are we arguing about.
 
I hate history because of that.
I used to love it in elementary school. Now in high it just sucks :(
 
8:06 PM
@DeadCicada Ancient argument, let it go.
 
Ell
@Cheersandhth.-Alf the history we learn at school is very good
 
@Tuntuni Which elementary school were you in? I was at Air.
 
sbi
> I am forever going to read "Windows RT" as "Windows retweet" — @Oatmeal
 
@sbi Okay.. Unless I missed something the only thing I recall you guys saying is the comment on the starboard. We're underestimating what normal people do, once again normal is in quotation marks.
 
I've finished 3 grades of USA high school, history was a pro-new world order brain washing course.
 
8:07 PM
@DeadCicada Well, I'm from Croatia and I don't really know you would know any.
 
Why global economy driven (aka corporate owned) society is a new post nationalistic way.
 
It is not famous anyway. Not even in the country.
 
A wonderful future where a board of directors tells you.
 
sbi
@enko What argument? IIRC, you were arguing my side against the puppy. No, it wasn't a lever, but I, raised in a western, Christian-based society, did agree that what you wrote about Islam was objectionable. You might want to think about it.
 
So if normal people are people who conform with everyday society, then normal people are capable of being made to do bad things (i.e. controlled to do so) and the statement for that reason is because "it's what normal people do"?
 
8:08 PM
@Tuntuni It was a pun on "elementary" ;_;
 
@DeadCicada Oh, LOL. I didn't see you used Air there as an element. xD My bad.
 
@sbi sbi, ok I understand. And I thought about it, and nothing changed. World would be better off without it. Feel free to flag away.
 
@Ell i like the history lessons of Clive Cussler's books: nothing's as it seems, there's a treasure trove if you just dive deep, and bad people are for some inexplicable reason able to organize world-wide criminal empires while at the same time being just dumb enough to let Dirk Pitt win
 
I thought it was an actual school .. o.O
 
sbi
@Rapptz No, it's because "we have seen them doing it". This grew out of a discussion about WWII and the crimes against humanity done during that. Also, I linked to Srebrenica for an example.
 
8:11 PM
@enko The problem with the global economy is that there is no global government.
 
@Rapptz Some people may look normal from the outside yet be completely fucked up in their heads, you know.
 
nobody can deny that corporations require oversight, but in many important matters they have none
 
Ell
At our school you get to hold your own opinion on historical things
 
That is not a problem.
Its a benefit.
 
Ell
I don't take history (too much essay writing) but I still find it interesting
 
8:11 PM
@enko It's exactly the problem.
 
sbi
@enko I see nothing to flag in what you wrote there, but if nothing changes when you think about other people's thoughts about what you say, then you and me are done discussing here. There's better things to waste my rare spare time on than people who discuss for the sake of discussing, rather than for the sake of changing. HAND.
 
corporations exist to screw society for the benefit of a few, and government has to make sure that they don't
if we had no government oversight, we'd all be smoking ourselves to death because it's profitable
there'd be no drug testing because it's expensive
etc.
 
@DeadCicada Then the definition of "normal" is horrible.
 
@Ell I have never had to (in my entire life) write an essay for history class. :o
 
@Tuntuni A lot of college level history classes require large amounts of papers.
 
8:13 PM
@Rapptz I know. The average human is very, very dumb you know? It's kinda sad. I wish people realized how important education is.
 
@sbi I am fairly open minded about most things. That doesn't mean I haven't arrived at my conclusions through very solid reasoning and experiences.
 
@Rapptz Yup. :)
 
Ell
@Tuntuni are you serious? o.O Our school they have to write at least an essay a week. Not measly one side of A4 either, proper stuff
 
sbi
13 mins ago, by sbi
@Rapptz That's easy: "Normal" social behavior is that which is similar to the behavior of the majority of the society's members.
 
@enko Your so called "very solid reasoning" is (from what I see), horribly categorical.
 
8:14 PM
@DeadMG See, I agree with first part about corporations. But you forget that governments in modern society are almost entirely owned by corporate interests. So you are arguing pro-corporate rule when you promote global gov.
 
@sbi Again, horrible definition. Bad argument too ("We've seen them do it").
 
@Rapptz It's not a bad definition.
 
@enko On the contrary. Democracy may not be a perfect system, but governments in democratic countries do, at least, on the whole, act in the interests of their people- albeit as limitedly as those people perceive them.
 
@DeadCicada Did you forget your glasses?
 
@Ell Woah. o.O ... We do them only for English and Croatian (my language). And if we do them, it is like 1 per 2 months.
 
8:15 PM
@Rapptz It's just a bit more complex than it looks like.
 
@DeadCicada It is a bad definition. You shouldn't categorize human beings by behaviour.
 
@Rapptz How do you categorize them, then?
 
sbi
@Rapptz What?! What better argument is there to support "it's possible!" than "we've seen it happening"?
 
@enko What a nice, polite and witty answer. Let me talk like that too. It'll be painless.
 
Ell
@Tuntuni what education level are you at?
 
sbi
8:16 PM
@Rapptz Um. You asked what "normal behavior" means, and when shown a definition, your disagree with it because "your shouldn't categorize people by behavior"? Boy, are you drunk?
 
@DeadCicada Behaviour can change over time. If you wanted to categorize you have to use something that wouldn't change, which we already do (albeit dumb) such as race and ethnicity
 
@Rapptz race and ethnicity. You lost me there.
 
@DeadMG completely disagree. Democracy only works when masses can't be manipulated through marketing. I have front row here in USA in our "democracy", its all marketing and emotion manipulation.
 
@DeadCicada What?
 
The average IQ of this room suddenly dropped by a significant margin.
 
8:17 PM
@Ell Highschool (is that what you meant?).
 
@enko Your "democracy" is still far better than what would happen without government intervention.
 
@DeadCicada You lost my respect a few days ago, so don't expect anything else.
 
although the US is a particularly weak example
 
sbi
@DeadCicada I haven't noticed anyone entering right before you said it. So: Who just left?
 
@enko Oh so that explains why you are a dumbass
@sbi It was a reply to this actually
@enko Lost your what.
 
8:18 PM
ultimately
government exists for when neither corporate nor personal interests can serve an important purpose, and that happens all the time
guys
get on, or I'mma start binning shit
not here for a flamewar
 
Ell
@Tuntuni yeah that's what I meant. I am at 6th form so I guess the workload is greater for me
 
sbi
@DeadMG Why haven't you done already? Tsk, really. Owners nowadays.
 
@sbi Watching TV.
 
@DeadMG Perhaps. True in USA for sure. But corrupt government is not an argument against functioning democracy.
 
@enko Huh? You're the one who's arguing against functioning democracy.
 
sbi
8:21 PM
Sep 16 at 20:50, by sbi
> If you're going to call me a grammar nazi, can you at least capitalise Nazi please? — Adam Kay
 
@DeadMG USA democracy is not functioning by any stretch of imagination.
 
Knock it off.
 
:5879108 You got it wrong: if you can't explain clearly enough what you're trying to say, then you're not worth listenint to.
 
user1182183
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Q: How do I disable the CAPS LOCK function WITHOUT disabling the key or remapping it?

Gam ErixI was looking for a way to disable the CAPS LOCK functionality in windows. Unfortunately all solutions are about remapping it to NOTHING or other keys. I am a gamer and want to use the CAPS LOCK key for in-game function but I don't want Windows to CAPITALIZE everything after I use caps lock (for ...

 
Ell
@sbi Nazi's aren't capitalists!
 
8:22 PM
@DeadMG My argument was totally valid! :(
 
user1182183
is there a programatic way of doing this? :P
 
@enko It is functioning, in that things would be a lot worse without it.
and infact are a lot worse without it, since it doesn't exist on a global scale and we are getting fucked on a global scale
 
@GamErix Keyboard hook?
 
sbi
@DeadMG No, dammit, he isn't arguing against any thing, he is arguing against people, and for the sake of arguing. Get that into your heads, and ignore it. Or bin that shit. Whatever, do something, this room has turned nasty while you sit and watch TV.
 
@sbi Yep. Smells bad.
 
user1182183
8:23 PM
@DeadCicada I'm not a pro programmer :D I'm kinda retarded if it gets to programming
 
@DeadMG Sure if you call think tanks of opinion swaying psychologists, voter fraud, sold out congress and senate, and nation of drooling tv watchers a functioning democracy...
 
@GamErix Oh, then just go to C:/herp/derp.exe and run it with any argument you like!
 
sbi
Nonono, puppy. I said I am out of the game, and there was a reason I said it. That reason hasn't changed a bit.
 
@DeadCicada if you have an argument against what I said, rather than brushing it off by saying "This was so dumb it dropped by IQ" attempt to tell me why it is incorrect.
 
8:24 PM
sbi has removed sbi from the list of this room's owners.
 
@Rapptz Be nice to DeadCicada, she is special.
 
I'm lurking btw, if you need any help binning things. :)
 
user1182183
@DeadCicada :/
 
Just been too busy to talk lately.
 
@Rapptz It wasn't only against you, enko is really plumbing the scores :( your sentence however, looked really racist (even for someone who's fond of racist jokes)
@GamErix I'm actually looking up how to do it :p
 
8:25 PM
@GamErix So you want the CAPS LOCK key to be toggled but send uncapitalized text to your game?
 
@ScottW Seconded.
 
Ell
@Mysticial I would start binning all the things if I were you :P
 
@DeadCicada Did you erase all that pedophilia off your c: drive already?
 
@DeadCicada Then you don't understand the difference between race and ethnicity. Likewise I don't think you understand what racism is at its core.
 
@sbi Well, I personally suspected that you'd be back in it as soon as you felt desperate enough for binning powers.
 
user1182183
8:25 PM
@Tuntuni ye just I want to be able to detect the key but I want to, disable/remove the CAPITALIZATION function from windows
 
sbi
@Mysticial Get the emotions down by binning everything that is getting them up.
 
but I flagged for a moderator anyway
 
@Rapptz I do. Categorizing people by race / ethnicity is racism.
 
too much for binning
 
@DeadCicada LMAO
 
user1182183
8:26 PM
probbly some code which resets caps lock every x miliseconds? hopefully not CPU hungry
 
@DeadCicada lol
 
@GamErix I think there could be a better way.
 
user1182183
because I know it's possible to turn caps lock on/off with programming
 
@GamErix It's probably gonna be tricky actually
 
@DeadCicada Thank you for that display of IQ.
 
8:26 PM
ohai everyone
 
user1182183
I have for now totally disable the key but some games crash on mapping it, because it now sends 0x0
 
@GamErix You could hook the keyboard for the current app (your game) and then for each letter that is pressed you just convert it to lowercase if CAPS LOCK is toggled.
 
user1182183
instead of 0x3A
 
user1182183
8:28 PM
@Tuntuni oh man I would need to make a big list of all my games windows O_o
 
user1182183
and hopefully no anti-cheat issues LOL
 
sbi
@DeadMG Did I ever mention that I feel uncomfortable in the possession of power? I thought I employed the ownership I was given by Roger at the dawn of this room in order to keep it in the state I liked it to be in. But when people said I am in power, and that I am using that power for my own personal goals (same thing, really, just a different way to look at it), I didn't feel comfortable with that arrangement anymore.
 
@GamErix Why do you need that, though.
 
@GamErix Heh. Well how many games do you want to use it on?
 
keeping the room moderated (to the minimum necessary) is a personal goal of all of us
 
8:29 PM
@sbi But you could bin TvTropes!
 
user1182183
@Tuntuni actually in 75% of all games I own I use caps lock at least for something there and 30% of those game let's say I play Multiplayer and people don't like when I"M SHOUTING :X
 
yas
 
sbi
@DeadCicada Yeah, I could. So?
 
dey be hatin
@sbi Isn't that you're favorite sport or something
@GamErix ._. just don't be spastic and don't press that key?
Or remap it elsewhere?
This is totally a XY problem.
 
user1182183
I would like to remap it to something that doesn't exist on my keboard but I have no keycode chart
 
sbi
8:31 PM
@DeadCicada I have more kids than you have had boys, and you think my favorite sport is binning TVTropes links in the lounge?
:)
 
@sbi Until proven wrong, yes.
 
sbi
@ScottW That's the thing. It was regulars. Owners. They liked me. They were meaning well in telling me. They wanted me to be in power. That's what made me quit.
 
Ell
@sbi you don't know, she might be a ho :L
 
@litb Summoning myself here.
 
sbi
@Ell That's too much slang for me. What's a "ho"?
 
8:32 PM
@sbi A hoe.
 
Ell
@sbi a whore
 
Are we hitting bottom yet?
 
@enko Nope, your mom isn't there yet.
 
sbi
@DeadCicada If you really think so, then there's is nothing I can do to prove this — not to you, anyway.
 
@DeadCicada That is a horrid attempt at your mom joke.
 
Ell
8:33 PM
@DeadMG happy birfday
 
user1182183
@sbi home? homo? house?
 
thank
 
@enko Trying to get on your level. Still too high.
 
user1182183
@DeadMG your birthday is a bit earlier than mine, many wishes and many year :)
 
s
 
8:34 PM
@sbi Ha! Pathetic excuses!
 
sbi
@GamErix What? @DeadCicada is a house? What's up with this room tonight? Have you all lost your collective minds?
 
user1182183
5 more days and i turn 18, I Don't want to :(
 
@DeadCicada Just flap your wings harder, you'll take off eventually.
or your mouth
 
@sbi Why yes, with 5 rooms and a kitchen.
 
sbi
@DeadCicada Stop it, will you? Just plonk him, and it will be over.
 
8:34 PM
@GamErix Go murder a child while you're not responsible!
 
also
 
@sbi I love being annoying with amerifats.
 
fuckin' hell, I think I made myself sick again
 
@DeadMG Stop doing C++.
 
user1182183
@DeadCicada I don't like murdering nor doing any harm to any living creatures except in my defense
 
8:35 PM
naw
 
@GamErix Then rob a bank.
 
sbi
@DeadCicada We all do once in a while. But we pick those who get the idea.
 
my family bought me a bunch of chocolatey stuff for my birthday
which I promptly consumed
 
user1182183
@DeadCicada no good plans/weaponary/ not enough time
 
user1182183
and i'm, not a hacker
 
user1182183
8:36 PM
just a script kidoo
 
@sbi Dude, it's not everyday you get an ameritard brought to you on a silver plate :( Let me enjoy it at least a bit!
 
Ell
@DeadMG man, you really never learn do you? ;)
 
@GamErix I guess you could steal an apple then? ._.
 
user1182183
@DeadMG I love chocolate!
 
user1182183
@DeadCicada or just turn the PC's on school into shit? easier done LOL
 
user1182183
8:37 PM
oh wait they already are..
 
@GamErix That's doing harm to a living creature IMO.
 
Were you people seriously talking about categorising people unironically.
 
sbi
Oh, it's the puppy's birthday? Wow, with the tagline being so boring nowadays, I hadn't even looked at it! Hey, @DeadMG, Hippo birdbath, cong-rats, and other dancing rodents! May your rain be long and Bosporus!
 
@CatPlusPlus Totally not.
 
user1182183
@DeadCicada explain :$
 
sbi
8:38 PM
@CatPlusPlus Yes, of course. With you gone, this room lacked irony.
 
user1182183
and anyone got a keycode map/chart where caps lock is 0x3A?
 
tata
 
user1182183
@DeadMG means father in polish
 
22 mins ago, by Rapptz
@DeadCicada Behaviour can change over time. If you wanted to categorize you have to use something that wouldn't change, which we already do (albeit dumb) such as race and ethnicity
 
sbi
8:39 PM
@DeadMG What happened that warranted a fanfare? The tooth fairy just came, plinked at you, and made your stomach problems vanish?
 
@sbi Pff, I wish.
 
Let's talk about retarded uni assignments.
 
@CatPlusPlus Sure. I have to do a report with 5 class diagrams, 2 flow diagrams and 1 state diagram. For a little program under 3k lines.
Also lots'a patterns. Useless ones ofc.
 
I have to figure out and record a 30s ad.
 
Ell
8:41 PM
Let's talk about retarded maths homework! Who's up for some critical path analysis?
 
With shitty stock sounds intermixed.
It's so stupid my brain can't even process it
 
sbi
There was a time, @Cat, when you didn't need to resort to stupid graphical smileys in order to convey your thoughts. You just arched your back, looked at us intensely, and posted one very condensed message, and we all hushed before you like mice on a silver plate.
 
Ell
didn't someone else mention a silver plate a second ago?
 
No, there wasn't.
 
@Ell I did. sbi's internal buffer is small.
Maybe not just the internal buffer.
 
sbi
8:43 PM
@Ell Pavlov did.
 
user1182183
i'm kinda wondering what the codes are for play stop pause next previous (media keys) on my keyboard..
 
@GamErix It says somewhere on an internet. All keycodes are documented, you know.
 
user1182183
@DeadCicada this time somehow google refuses to be my friend or uncle
 
How do ads even work, I haven't listened or watched one in years.
 
user1182183
8:45 PM
does F13 exist lol?
 
@sbi There was? I don't recall such a time.
 
There really wasn't.
 
sbi
@GamErix It's aunt google, actually. (You never looked under her skirt?)
@DeadMG Of course you wouldn't. You're a puppy.
 
user1182183
:o
 
sbi
:5879437 Yup. Thanks. Seems I can't type tonight. I need to correct everything I write before I hit return — or afterwards.
 
8:48 PM
Does anyone here use Perforce?
 
Ell
@sbi I always delete my corrections to people because I don't like correcting people :L should I not do that so people can reply to them or?
 
@DeadCicada Hahahah no
 
folks, please stop flagging
for fucks sake
 
sbi
@DeadCicada I think I saw it mentioned a while ago.
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I don't see any flags right now.
 
@DeadCicada do you use it?
 
8:49 PM
7 people had flagged someone bad-mouthing the cicada
 
sbi
@Ell I dunno. I have no problems with getting corrected, if that's what you're asking.
 
Ell
@sbi right okay :) I tend to assume people do
anyway I'm off to bed
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf and not the other way around? Neoptism much?
 
sbi
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Well, it seems the room is fond of its girl.
@Ell Sleep well!
 
@enko and it was you, i think. can you please tone down the offensive a little.
 
8:51 PM
I knew "nepotism" but "neoptism"...
@Abyx I don't. I use Git only.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Maybe you should look at how flagging is abused?
 
sbi
Is there paleoptism, too?
 
@DeadCicada Git sucks.
 
I just heard an ANet developer says Perforce "is better at handling large binary files". I was wondering how.
@sbi Isn't it some kind of otism?
 
someone mentioned babylonian cuneiform and immediately i wanted a squad of nurses in babylonian uniforms
 
sbi
8:54 PM
@DeadCicada Oops. No. It's a kind of ptism.
 
sbi
@Cheersandhth.-Alf And did you get them?
 
@Abyx What do you use.
 
@DeadCicada well, EpicGames uses perforce to version binary files, but I think it's not because Perforce is good for binary files, but because it's file-centric VCS
@DeadCicada Hg
 
sbi
8:55 PM
Here you go.
 
those are male nurses
 
@Abyx Isn't Hg a "dumbed down" version of Git? (Disclaimer: no my actual opinion)
 
user1182183
@DeadCicada thanks!
 
@DeadCicada No.
 
(and I use Hg for large binary files)
 
sbi
8:56 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf So? Did you ask for female ones?
 
more like, Git is the completely unusable version of Hg
 
@DeadCicada yes there is one. i used it (never used git). but it was not nice!
couldn't even handle unicode, the silly beast
 
170
Q: Why is Mercurial considered to be easier than Git?

fishWhen looking at comparisons, it seems to me that there could be a 1:1 mapping between their feature sets. Yet, an often cited statement is that "Mercurial is easier". What is the base of this statement? (if any)

 
yes, that's it
 
user1182183
BTW my caps lock i mapped to 'F13' and it works :o at least for "minecraft", will see for other games
 
8:58 PM
Why the fuck is dist-upgrade removing libboost
 

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