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11:00 PM
Fuck HTML, I stay far away from that shit
 
How come I see types like std::_Mem_fn when using Boost.Lambda?
 
@LewsTherin That's a false dichotomy.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I do
 
You can write stuff not by hand?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How so?
 
11:01 PM
well i just solve it it was just a silly think
 
@LewsTherin You can generate HTML.
 
thank al l ypu guys
 
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@LucDanton It probably uses stuff like bind1st.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If you mean by using Dreamweaver, or some other tool, no thanks. Adds some unwanted stuff.
 
@LewsTherin No, I don't mean that.
 
11:02 PM
hmm, if I select a non defualt MSVC project, rightclick->debug, when I'm in release mode, does that run a release or debug build of that project?
@LewsTherin oh hey, I know that name
 
@MooingDuck Release, I think.
 
@MooingDuck You never fail to tell me that ;)
 
I can imagine Cat doing that. Just staring at a bubble
 
@Lalaland std::_Mem_fn is the return type of std::mem_fn in libstdc++.
 
11:03 PM
@TonyTheLion Oh wow. Whoever wrote that could have easily shortened it by only listing the CSS once..
 
user406009
So Boost:: Lambda is internally using std::mem_fn. Interesting.
 
@Rapptz I don't think that's the biggest problem.
I mean, all those nested <ul>s? WTF.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If you zoom out, it looks like a 3D axis.
 
11:05 PM
@LewsTherin Who writes HTML by drag and drop!?!?!?!
 
You could do a markdown to html conversion if you don't like writing by hand. Since that's all markdown really is.
 
@sehe Then I assumed "writes" to mean "codes"
 
@LewsTherin Who code HTML by drag and drop?!?!?!
@daknøk Ketchup flavoured?
 
@TonyTheLion Good, otherwise I’d have had to visit you with a gun and a very sharp object.
 
Oh well. I wanted to test my claim that bind expressions are very similar across libraries by tweaking the previous Boost.Lambda solution, but apparently somewhere in some library someone takes an address with the addressof operator and not std::addressof and this leads to funny things happening since Boost.Lambda overloads this.
 
11:08 PM
@sehe Ketchup-flavoured what?
 
@daknøk :P
 
@LucDanton hehe. boost::addressof also
 
@sehe But yeah, I have ketchup-flavoured crisps next to my bed on the floor. Yes, in a bag.
 
@daknøk rubbish
 
I'm guessing libstdc++'s std::mem_fn implementation is doing that, I recognize some of the tricks used.
 
11:10 PM
@sehe "rubbish" is redundant to "ketchup flavored".
 
Ketchup-flavoured crisps ftw.
 
@JerryCoffin pleonastic. not redundant (for one thing, he didn't know it's rubbish)
 
I also have patatje Joppie-flavoured crisps.
 
@sehe Some people ha ha
 
@daknøk I'm getting a strange vibe. I take it Sara isn't available for phone sex right now
 
11:11 PM
Any reason why BitBlt would hang?
 
@sehe She’s sleeping, you fool. It’s past one AM.
 
@sehe Okay, pleonastic I'll buy.
 
@Borgleader Memory failure? No DEP?
 
And I have several people on Skype now from Denmark and the USA.
 
@daknøk Wokay. I guess I'm out of touch then:
Aug 27 at 22:08, by sehe
@daknøk Psychic abilities
 
11:12 PM
@sehe: Any way I can find out if it's a memory issue? (No idea what DEP is)
 
> Male kangaroos have been known to give themselves blow jobs
dafuq?
 
@Borgleader Overwriting executable memory/executing data prevention
 
@TonyTheLion Humans could do it too if they tried.
 
@Rapptz "if they tried" - that's a very weak argument. I'm sure someone did
 
11:14 PM
@sehe yep (nsfw)
 
I mean, accidents happen with vacuum cleaners and pets. I'm convinced someone has tried to raise auto-suck to a new level of meta
 
@Rapptz oh gawd.
 
@Rapptz: Oh god why
 
hmm, while looking at recent US presidential polls, I note there's a lot of states where the two parties are neck and neck, and several states where the republicans dominate hands down. There are no states where the democrats win hands down. Interesting.
 
@MooingDuck Not even CA?
 
11:15 PM
@Borgleader @Rapptz What's with all the faux prudity (is that a word?)
 
@Prætorian democrats have 53%-58% of the vote there
 
I’m chatting with a bunch of merkins.
 
More like oh god why did i click that link.
 
@Borgleader Oh. aha. No clue, then
 
11:17 PM
Oh man, that's actually kind of scary if Romney wins.
 
oh, heh, the polls where the republicans were winning hands down were primaries. Oops >.<
 
Romney is an idiot IMO.
 
Oh well. You're not on my shortlist for political advice anyway, Radek
 
@MooingDuck According to these guys it's almost guaranteed that Obama's getting re-elected
 
@sehe We’re all children of the same God says enough.
 
11:17 PM
@daknøk sure, but would you rather have an idiot, or someone who will wreck the country skillfully?
 
@MooingDuck Given the US electoral system, however, it's all about number of states where you win, not about how large a margin you hold in those states. Win every state by one vote, and you still get 100% of the electoral votes.
 
@sehe Why prudity? I assumed it was just disgust.
 
@JerryCoffin true
 
@MooingDuck anyone is fine, as long as they don’t insist I’m a child of a fictional person.
 
11:18 PM
I want a 3rd party to win before I die.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well. The internet is for porn. Everyone here is internet savvy. Why be surprised? Why click the link? It doesn't add up. It's a pose :)
 
I’d rather have moot for president than Mitt Romney.
 
@Rapptz Good luck with that!
 
It's probably never going to happen.
 
@Prætorian nice site
 
11:20 PM
@daknøk Oh that's not fictional. It's symbolical/representational. It means, everybody he knows is some priest/reverend's bastard son.
 
I’m talking about God.
 
@daknøk Well. That's interesting
 
I always thought it meant we were all equal.
 
I’m a son of my father and mother and nobody else, and they’re not God.
 
@JerryCoffin Heh, you should try explaining that to this one baptist minister that was on CNN a few weeks ago. He kept insisting Romney has to go completely right-wing to energize evangelicals, that'll secure him 20 million additional votes and win him the election. An analyst tried his best to explain why those 20 million votes do not matter, given the electoral college, but this guy wouldn't hear of it. Funny thing to watch
 
11:21 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well. That's not what it means. But it's what it is supposed to convey/purport/imply/suggest
 
@daknøk Now you remind me of "My dad's not a phone! Duh! I'm an ADULT!" youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ
 
@daknøk God is a mofo coding c++. He raiis like nobody else.
 
@daknøk How can you be sure?
 
If Romney says I’m a son of God, he tells lies, and I don’t vote for somebody who tells lies.
 
downvotes
I'mma downvote Romney
 
11:22 PM
I’mma vote moot.
 
I can't vote :(
 
@daknøk they've both made tons of lies in their campains
 
According to that map I posted the electoral votes are
Obama: 197
Romney: 178
Unknown: 163
 
Yeah, if you have issues understanding English, I'm not sure if you should vote.
 
@Prætorian me neither. :(
 
11:22 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes LOL
 
I’m going to vote PVV whenever there are elections in the Netherlands.
 
What's a PVV?
 
@Prætorian Party Of Freedom pvv.nl
 
Or, if I’m going to move after the elections anyway, I’ll vote SP (socialistic party, or whatever that is in English) just to troll the entire country.
 
If Romney wins, all of a sudden Iran has Nukes, and hey we go for more fun times.
 
11:24 PM
@daknøk secessionist party?
 
@MooingDuck whatever, communists.
 
Yesterday the polling map had
Obama: 224
Romney: 166
Tied: 132
Unknown: 16
 
@daknøk we have socialist parties too, but the secessionists are made fun of by them even.
 
@MooingDuck Just no /cc @daknøk
 
lol
 
11:24 PM
lol double mooingduck ping
 
You should all vote for me. I'm king!
 
I'd like to see Romney get elected. I think Obama has no idea how to handle the economy or foreign affairs. I know this is likely not a popular opinion here, but it's my opinion.
 
@Rapptz So is unknown better than tied (from whichever point of view)?
 
Haha Lion King.
 
@Rapptz If they implemented well synched stereo, the plinks may (partially) cancel
 
11:25 PM
My boss always called me an “eindbaas” because I was so good.
Eindbazen are the bosses you find in video games.
 
@Chimera I'm not a citizen
 
@Chimera neither does romney...but who has experience with that stuff already?
 
@Chimera Well one thing is for sure. Obama veritably rescued foreign affairs after Bush. The world was quickly getting more than fed up with USA under Bush
 
I managed to set up PHP and the forum and you better like it.
 
@Prætorian Well the previous map had tied but this one didn't. I guess being unknown is better from a political point of view.
 
11:26 PM
ah curses, my main thread is waiting on a thread that finished. I thought I fixed this already.
 
@sehe: Weird as it may be, I restarted the application I was taking screenshots of and now my code doesn't hang on BitBlt
 
@CatPlusPlus You think you managed to set up PHP.
There is probably some feature that’s broken due to a wrong setting in php.ini, as usual. :P
 
I know what I'm doing mkay.
 
Anyway
 
11:28 PM
@Borgleader Oh wait. You didn't say you were screenshotting other apps. Also, did you actually code a BitBlt or did you assume it was being used? IIRC screen capturing in windows involves sending WM_PAINT messages to the window procedure. If the message queue gets clogged - of course screen shotting will hang
 
Nobody is on Skype anymore, and it’s late, so I’m going to sleep, how much of a waste of time that might be.
Später!
 
@sehe Are you talking about the apology tour he went on and snubbing Israel?
 
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
 
@daknøk Later.
 
@sehe do you have a special button on your keyboard for that or something?
 
11:29 PM
@sehe: I'm using BitBlt directly, I'm not using PrintWindow.
 
@Chimera Not in particular. But yeah, that's a signal. If you don't think that was important, you really should get out the USA more
 
@daknøk Ah yes. The daknøk macro.
 
@daknøk I'm just that quick
 
@Chimera You change your gravatar! Again!
 
@Borgleader Mmm. Well, just a thought
 
11:30 PM
@Rapptz C-R, C-S, M-daknøk
 
Actually, it's /daknok<ENTER> for me
 
@sehe Would it be better if the US just pulled out of the middle eastern countries and let them fend for themselves and wait for WW3?
 
@Chimera Foot in mouth
 
@sehe I like how you name your macros.
 
@sehe Serious question. What would happen if the US pulled out of the middle eastern countries?
 
11:32 PM
3 mins ago, by daknøk
Nobody is on Skype anymore, and it’s late, so I’m going to sleep, how much of a waste of time that might be.
 
@Chimera Stuff.
 
this is not r/politics
 
r/politics is left-winged.
 
@Chimera Who knows. Also: irrelevant.
@Chimera I'm not talking about that, really. I'm talking about the amount of latitude Bush has taken to ignore the UN/NATO and just 'be bosses of the world'. That wasn't smart, even for America. The worst stuff will happen once China begets an attitude of the kind
 
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11:35 PM
@Borgleader Anyways, does remind me of general Windouchyness:
Sep 24 at 22:51, by sehe
@JerryCoffin Huh. That's funny! On windows, I usually stare at partially painted windows about half the day since windows are unresponsive during operation. On windows, you can't even bloddy f*cking minimize a window, when it's application is not responding. On windows, you can't move a window when it's process has a modal dialog popping up. Usually in the background... I could go on. none of these issues exist on even the most average Gnome desktop
 
Fuck the UN they are an ineffective corrupt organization. I wish the US would pull out of the UN and kick them the fuck out of New York.
 
@Rapptz I've seen one that required five years of C# experience in 2002. So, basically, they could hire the C# design team.
 
@Chimera Don't forget to mention 'front lawn' and 'shotgun'. Seem oddly missing from that line
 
@sehe: lol I remember reading that
 
@sehe Haha
 
11:36 PM
@Chimera people keep telling me last time the US just "pulled out", thousands of civilians (people who helped the US) were slaughtered. Can't remember what war that was.
 
@sehe Don't forget constitution
 
What makes the UN corrupt?
 
@Chimera Protip: most organizations are ineffective corrupt organizations.
 
@Borgleader I'd really appreciate if you started to reply to specific messages. Chat is too disturbing when you have to hunt for likely "predecessor messages" (what's a good antonym for reply-message here?)
 
@sehe Like this?
 
11:38 PM
@sehe subject messages.
 
@Rapptz I don't think they're corrupt, but they are ineffective because of the 5 permanent council members with veto power
 
@Borgleader Yay. You did it
 
@Borgleader Much better.
@Prætorian There's undoubtedly at least a little corruption there too though (may not be the cause of most problems, but the chances that it's free of corruption strike me as remote).
 
@Rapptz For one they have a record of not following the sanctions they place on countries not following UN dictates.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mmm. Kinda works. But I wonder how many people would understand "I'm having trouble locating the subject message for your reply". Mmm. Not too bad. I'll take it for lack of a better term. Thanks
 
11:39 PM
@Rapptz lol
 
@JerryCoffin You're probably right, the stakes are way too high for it to be entirely free of corruption
 
@sehe Stop making your windows non-responsive. The GUI thread is there for running GUI stuff. If you stop using it for 25-line SQL queries and 0..1000000 loops, Windows GUIs work fine. If you write crap code, the result will be crap.
 
@sehe Instead of trying to refer to the specific message, I'd just use "thread".
 
@MartinJames I don't write windows programs. And when I do I make sure they are console applications
 
Well, the UN kind of needs to be reformed.
 
11:41 PM
@Prætorian It has that usual governmental combination of massive influence and mediocre pay. Corruption follows nearly automatically.
 
Cue most interesting man in the world.
 
@JerryCoffin That helps. :)
 
@sehe If you want to write console apps, stick to Linux etc. Windows sucks at console, as you obviously already know :(
 
@MartinJames Anyways, the comparison will still be bleak. The competing systems don't respond to bad/suboptimal software by corrupting screen display and blocking user interaction. They are simply more versatile.
@MartinJames Hey. Pay attention. I didn't say I want to write console apps.
2 mins ago, by sehe
@MartinJames I don't write windows programs. And when I do I make sure they are console applications
 
Oh, it's been one year since Dennis Ritchie died.
 
11:44 PM
@Chimera I really don't understand what you're trying to say there. But anyway, do you disagree with the fact that Bush managed to piss away the massive goodwill and support that the US had from the rest of world after 9/11 by acting against Iraq unilaterally? I think that's all @sehe was saying
 
@Rapptz I'll make it a recurring reminder in my calendar
 
@sehe I think you meant: I don't always write windows programs, but when I do I make sure they are console applications ;)
 
@Borgleader I was loosely alluding to that too. But I wanted to make sure you took me seriously. As I am. Serious.
 
@Prætorian I believe Bush did the right thing by acting against Iraq.
 
WTF, Windows 8? I'm trying to get work done! http://t.co/QoxNJOSh
Nuff said :) (that was cheap ...)
 
11:46 PM
Microsoft... why... oh why
 
@sehe You can't postpone it or cancel automatic updates?
 
@sehe I just installed Win8 on my laptop yesterday. Those fullscreen metro apps are maddening
 
@Rapptz I dunno. I don't use it
 
@sehe Oh god no -- Microsoft has copied another of the Mac's worst habits! Strangely, I don't think even Apple is asinine enough to do that anymore.
 
@Prætorian Oh well, I guess I can say that Ubuntu's Unity desktop had the lead there too. In terms of suckiness. Of course, no once forces me to use that
 
11:49 PM
@sehe Yep, you can switch to Gnome or whatever if you want to. No such luxuries on Windows
 
@Prætorian Well I'm sure there will be vendors happy to make you pay for their second-rate user-experience alternative
Time to go horizontal - Night all
 
@sehe second rate user experience is more fitting than alternative. There is some app that puts the start menu back and boots to desktop, but I think I'd rather switch back to Win7 than install that
I'm gonna start my weekend too. Y'all have a great weekend!
 
@sehe G'night.
 

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