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12:11 AM
Does anyone know if subversion repositories become slower after having messed around with many merges back and forth, causing the files contain a lot of merge info?
 
In my experience subversion repositories become slower. Stop.
 
I see.
I've been messing around a lot lately :)
 
ohh GCC fame entering the SO family
maintainer of libstdc++ :)
 
> **Local Man’s Experience Reveals Difficulty in Evaluating Gun Safety**
Bob Idiotman of Las Vegas NV believes that he has proven that placing a loaded gun up to your head and pulling the trigger is safe. Idiotman discovered this two nights ago when he survived an encounter with a 38-Special without a scratch. Idiotman attributes this to the fact that guns are not actually dangerous to place against one’s own head.
“Well, I took the revolver, see, and I took the bullets out, but then I put one in the chamber. Then I gave it a spin. So then I said, I wonder if it’s safe now. So I took the gu
> TSU Provost Dennis Gendron said “Students vote with their money and with enrollment on the programs they want.”
Really?
 
12:42 AM
@JohannesSchaublitb No, I said "Oooh," not "Ooooh." There's a huge difference.
 
Aand SO is down.
I guess I should go get some sleep anyway.
 
Clang says: "note: candidate template ignored: substitution failure" Does anyone know if there is a way to get it to say why substitution failed? I know it's due to a late-specified return type, but unfortunately that return type ends up needing to recursively instantiate a ton of other templates, so I have no idea which one is failing...
 
Heads up, #stackoverflow and #stackexchange networks will be offline for a few minutes while we replace the hamsters
 
Or, if there is a way to get gcc to tell me, that would work too. It involves variadic templates though so Visual C++ is out of the question, sadly.
 
12:54 AM
GCC might require a goat sacrifice.
 
I am fresh out of goats, so that won't work.
 
1:40 AM
No longest increasing subsequence in the stdlib?
:(
 
 
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4:09 AM
LIS , you can code it urself
 
Sure, of course I can. I can code everything myself.
 
5:00 AM
@MartinhoFernandes I'm sure you can.
 
sbi
5:43 AM
@JamesMcNellis Spoiled brat! Just remember the error messages your employer's compiler used to give you and be glad you have what you got now. :)
 
 
4 hours later…
9:21 AM
Neil has left the website. again.
Somebody should tell him there is nothing wrong in being a badass
 
 
1 hour later…
Xeo
10:43 AM
 
11:00 AM
Unfortunately it's not "normal robber" proof.
 
 
1 hour later…
Xeo
12:23 PM
Huh? I thought you can't answer to closed questions?
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A: Stack Smashing detected

Ben Voigt char array[50]; fscanf(fp, "%s", array); That looks suspicious: A fixed-size array and an unlimited size read function. Depending on the user input, that will overflow the buffer and overwrite other local variables, possibly even the return address. Run valgrind.

> closed as not a real question by Armen Tsirunyan, sje397, Tim Post♦ 7 mins ago
> answered 6 mins ago
 
@DeadMG do you genuinely not see the advantages of a text editor?
 
1:03 PM
@Xeo Maybe he sent the answer in the same moment mod closed the question, and it passed the open question check, and was saved to database few moments after the question was marked as closed.
And I think that sentence really sucks.
 
1:16 PM
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus I'd never be able to leave the toilet again...
So long I have a pen, of course.
Damn it, I'm spoiled by the SO chat. I always want to use markdown in IRC...
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And edit my earlier messages.
 
1:36 PM
folks!
 
@Xeo Where's your survival instinct? You don't need a pen.
 
you have fingers and you have brown color
lol
 
Xeo
2:37 PM
And suddenly, my comments vanished on this question ...
 
 
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Xeo
3:42 PM
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Q: In c++ what does a tilde "~" before a function name signify?

Monte template <class T> class Stack { public: Stack(int = 10) ; ~Stack() { delete [] stackPtr ; } //<--- What does the "~" signify? int push(const T&); int pop(T&) ; int isEmpty()const { return top == -1 ; } int isFull() const { return top == size - 1...

> ~ is the bitwise negation operator. When applied to a function definition, it means that the function will do the opposite of what it says it will do -- so for example, ~push() will really pop the stack, and ~writeSeriousComment() will actually produce comments like this. – j_random_hacker
 
14 upboats left to silver .
 
Xeo
4:12 PM
I just thought of renaming my integer_iterator to interator
 
4:23 PM
@Xeo now that's what I call type punning
badum tsh!
 
5:23 PM
Somehow I thought that fiddling with Luabind, Boost.MPL and Boost.Fusion would be something fun to do. Then I had to compile.
 
5:39 PM
@sbi :-) I just remember the good old days when I used to get to write code in a language with good support for generic programming.
 
Heheheh
@TomalakGeretkal Denial is the first sign of esquizofrenia, you know.
@TomalakGeretkal I'm just playing with you.
I found it funny that you asked a question and then on the next minute answered it talking to yourself on the 3rd person.
But you're right, I'm insane. Have to go lunch. TTYL
 
Ah
@karlphillip that's not schizophrenia. that's DID. it's a common misconception that schizophrenia is "split personality disorder"; the word in fact means "split from life"
@karlphillip also, self-answering is an accepted practice on SO! Look at the tag in particular.
Speaking of lunch..
 
Thanks for the info. Karl is going to lunch now.
 
:)
and thanks for answering in the way that I was hoping, meaning I could use my pre-planned reply
 
sbi
6:13 PM
@karlphillip You might find Eric there, cause he went to lunch, too.
(Note that his sandwich might be a little mold^Wstale by now.)
 
Crashy crashy crash.
 
anybody know what the std::ios_base::internal flag is for?
 
@Node > internal, to pad to a field width as needed by inserting fill characters at a point internal to a generated numeric field. (For information on setting the field width, see setw).
Ew, it broke.
 
@CatPlusPlus - what does that mean though? what does it do to the output?
 
Xeo
6:29 PM
I somehow regret asking this question while already being at repcap at that time. :(
 
@CatPlusPlus - I get it now, just tried outputting a negative number, then it became obvious :)
 
@Node I don't know, I never used that.
 
std::cout << std::setw(10) << -5 will output "- 5"
hmm, chat filtered that
the spaces apear between the "-" and the "5"
and that code assums the internal flag is set :p
 
Yeah, I can see how that's useful.
boost::bad_any_cast: failed conversion using boost::any_cast, ah, the ever helpful what() message.
 
sbi
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Of course I can. I can code everything myself.
About time.
 
Xeo
6:41 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Where we change the topic at will.
 
sbi
@Xeo Ah, now that's much better!
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Where we will change the topic.
 
sbi
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Where we change the topic at will.
 
Crashy crashy. My code doesn't work so well today.
 
@CatPlusPlus Does that throw using the Boost.Exception stuff? Does (boost::diagnostic_information)[boost.org/doc/libs/1_46_1/libs/exception/doc/… give you more info? Ive never actually checked to see if things that throw in boost use it.
 
sbi
6:50 PM
@Node Links are [text](URL). You can edit your message.
 
it doesnt give me the option
 
Xeo
Too old then
 
Oh well, you know what i meant :)
 
@Node It does, but there is no additional info attached.
 
ah, that sucks
time for the pub methinks.
 
Xeo
6:55 PM
With [c++] [c++0x] [c++-faq], there is not much room for other tags...
 
@Xeo such as?
 
sbi
I'm contemplating creating a newer version of the newbie hints. There's been a few changes to the chat recently, but all I could think of was (A) improved formatting (like bold italic working now) and pressing Cursor up several times to edit older messages. Anything else of importance you can think of?
Ah, that tag syntax. What was this again?
 
Xeo
DAMN IT
do it, markdown!
 
sbi
@Xeo [tag:blah]
 
7:01 PM
^
What do you mean there's "not much room" for them?
 
Xeo
doesn't help for linking. :(
@TomalakGeretkal Not much room as in, I had the tag in there before
 
@Xeo: It's already two links. It can't be another.
@Xeo: Put the link on "for example"
 
sbi
@Xeo Letdown letting you down again?
 
@Xeo still have no idea what you're on about :(
 
Xeo
@TomalakGeretkal Tags are limited to 5 at a time
 
7:03 PM
folks!
 
Xeo
So I had to remove the one (haha) to put the one in
 
sbi
@Xeo Five tags ought to be enough for anybody!
 
Xeo
Imagine when we still had the extra tag!
 
what is "esquizofrenia" ?
@TomalakGeretkal ^
BTW if anyone can clarify
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Q: What does "Weichspülmusik" mean?

Johannes Schaub - litbSome people I have to do with frequently call music that plays in radio "Weichspülmusik", like Diese Weichspülmusik möchte ich jetzt nicht hören. I always wonder what that means. Can anyone please clarify?

 
sbi
@Xeo Well, the support for meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/93173/… wasn't all that overwhelming, you know.
 
Xeo
7:05 PM
You had my upvote!
 
Xeo
@JohannesSchaublitb Wrong site?
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Did you mean to ask that on the German site instead of the English one?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Spanish for "schizophrenia".
 
@Xeo oops!
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Q: What does "Weichspülmusik" mean?

Johannes Schaub - litbSome people I have to do with frequently call music that plays in radio "Weichspülmusik", like Diese Weichspülmusik möchte ich jetzt nicht hören. I always wonder what that means. Can anyone please clarify?

xD
 
Xeo
7:07 PM
@sbi Not much support for this chat suggestions either, y'know. :(
 
@TomalakGeretkal ohh
 
Xeo
@JohannesSchaublitb Sounds like a product by the german "exquisa" company to me
 
@Xeo ohh
perhaps it's music that has a certain sound like a washing machine or something?
 
Xeo
@JohannesSchaublitb Afaik is das synonym zu Schnulzenmusik
 
sbi
@Xeo Yeah, I didn't like it. But undoing the c++11 => c++0x thing had only one opponent here, and many proponents, yet the opponent's answer ended up being the most upvoted one.
 
Xeo
7:09 PM
In dem Zusammenhang hör ich's zumindest immer.
 
what's "Schnulzenmusik"
 
Xeo
Ask a question! :)
 
those are all weird genres I'Ve never heard about
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Are you pulling our legs? de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnulze
 
I thought that's what music is all about
 
sbi
7:12 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb OMG. Why don't you go back to reading the FDIS?
 
sbi
7:39 PM
Since it's currently pretty quiet in here and low risk of disturbing people in the middle of actual discussions, I would like to use the opportunity to create an improved version of the newbie hints. Is anyone brooding over an important subject that needs discussing in the next 10mins?
Great, please stay quiet for a few mins until I say so...
If you want to ask a C++ question here, you are welcome to do so, although you probable will have a better audience at Stack Overflow proper. Posting a link to a proper question at Stack Overflow might actually give you better results. Users are here to chat and that includes off-topic subjects as well as the outcome of the standardization process and anything in between.
Wherever you ask, always make sure you follow Roger's advice so that your question is actually answerable by others.
You can edit your messages for 2mins. Click the v arrow appearing left of it when you hover your mouse over it and pick "edit" from the menu that appears. Also, Cursor Up will edit your last message (doing it twice edits the one before that etc.), Enter confirms the edit, Escape cancels it. The chat will keep a fully history of your editing, though, visible fo the others.
Messages are one-liners by default and max. 500 characterss long. You can add a newline by pressing Shift+Enter; such messages have no max length (that that any of us has run up against). Note that messages with too many lines (according to a definition unknown to us) will be truncated by default, requiring users to click on an "expand" link to see them in full.
Markdown works pretty much like in comments on SO proper (there's subtle differences, though, like newline working), but fails for multi-line messages (except for fixed-width code; see below). Apparently, that's by design.
Code can be formatted using backticks or by indenting all lines of a multi-line message four spaces. There's also a "fixed font" button apearing when your message has more than one line.
Links to specific web pages (questions, answers, and user pages on the SE sites, Wikipedia articles, Twitter messages,...) will inline an excerpt of the page, when they are the only text in a message. The same goes for links to images. There's also an "upload" button next to the input pane, that will upload images to imgur.com, putting the link into the input pane.
Mentioning others using the @syntax will notify them - auditively if they are in the chat, and through the StackExchenge inbox feature across the whole SE network. The UI will suggest matches after you type @ and the first letters. You can cycle between the suggestions using the tab key, accept by entering space, followed by your message.
Reply to specific messages by clicking on the down-and-right arrow that appears at the right of all messages when you hover over them (or by clicking the v arrow as mentioned above and picking "reply to this message" from its menu). This will start the message with :NNNNNN, where NNNNNN is the message's ID. (You can also manually type the colon, followed by the ID. You can find any message's ID in the permalink to the message.)
You can spend a limited number of stars per day on messages you like. Recently starred messages are shown on the right, the more stars a message has, the longer it stays there. If there's a number right of a star, it indicates the number of people (>1) who have starred it.
Room owners can also pin messages to that area. (The message you clicked on which linked to this was pinned.) Pinned messages are automagically unpinned after 14 days.
An expanded version of these first hint can be found at the chat FAQ, linked to from the "faq" link at the lower right corner of the chat's browsers window. (A small popup window showing just the formatting help of the FAQ can be invoked through the "help" link at the same place.)
If you wonder why we have so many room owners: This room was originally created by some user(s) who later disappeared, orphaning it, so that other users set up a new C++ room. A moderator objected against two C++ rooms, and transferred ownership of the older C++ room to those who had created the new room (which was left to die).
To prevent this from ever happening again, we have the inofficial room policy to turn regulars into owners (and to remove those no longer here from the list of owners).
Phew.
Thanks for staying quiet.
 
Xeo
> such messages have no max length (that that any of us has run up against).
 
@sbi typo "StackExchenge"
@sbi ARGH LRN2SEMICOLON
@sbi typo "these first hint"
 
sbi
Does anyone see any...
 
:)
@sbi typo "probable"
@sbi typo "fo"
 
sbi
Urgh.
 
Xeo
7:43 PM
Also, "have run up against"
 
@sbi typo "there's"
@Xeo what's wrong with that?
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal Ok, that I found.
 
Xeo
@TomalakGeretkal You have "has" while meaning multiple persons
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal Found, too.
 
@sbi: Think that's it
 
sbi
7:44 PM
@TomalakGeretkal Ok.
 
@Xeo no, "any of us" may imply singular
 
Xeo
@sbi "to the right of a star"
 
@Xeo I almost noted that one but it's technically OK
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal Ok.
 
Xeo
@TomalakGeretkal Still sounds wrong somehow
 
7:44 PM
@Xeo I agree it's not the best wording
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal No idea.
@TomalakGeretkal Where's??
@TomalakGeretkal That I can't decipher.
 
@sbi You wrote "there's", then talked about something plural. "is" is singular. "There're" or "there are" would be better.
@sbi You used a comma where you should have used a semicolon.
 
sbi
@Xeo Ok, gotcha.
 
"Recently starred messages are shown on the right. The more stars a message has, the longer it stays there."
- or -
"Recently starred messages are shown on the right; the more stars a message has, the longer it stays there."
 
Xeo
@TomalakGeretkal I still don't really get where to put semicolons in a sentence, though I'm really good at grammar 'n stuff
 
sbi
7:46 PM
@TomalakGeretkal But, dammit, where did I write this?
@TomalakGeretkal Where's that?
 
@Xeo It's easy! Semicolons can sometimes replace periods. Commas can not.
 
semicolons are put at the end of c++ statements :P
 
Xeo
@sbi Every complaint from @Tomalak had a link to the place where you wrote it :P
 
@sbi: The only place in that message at which you wrote "there's"
"there's subtle differences"
 
sbi
@Xeo Ugh. I missed that. Sorry. (After that I'm constantly fighting "you can try this action again in x secs" messages. ARGH!)
 
Xeo
7:48 PM
@TomalakGeretkal I'd put a comma there. So an explanatory main clause can be combined with the prevailing clause through a semicolon?
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal Ok, found that one.
 
@Xeo A comma is horribly wrong there.
@Xeo Commas may not adjoin two distinct phrases.
@Xeo Usually: if it works as a sentence, do not join it with another one through a comma.
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal Ok, found & fixed.
 
Exceptions are conjunctions within one sentence like I used in italics above, and when writing a list.
 
sbi
So what have I missed?
 
7:49 PM
@Xeo yes.
@sbi How do we know?
 
Xeo
@sbi Paste the whole thing on Ideone and let us see ? :P
 
submitting it for review first might have made sense :P
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal How am I to know?
@Xeo Oh, that sounds good!
 
@sbi Well, you're the only one who can see the changed version, so... how should we know whether you missed anything?
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal Nobody ever read it as thoroughly as you did. I bet most of those have been in there for months.
 
7:51 PM
@sbi *shrug* just read it
I have a good eye for these things :)
 
tomalak is the grammar fighter
in The Other Room we always consult him in this matter
 
sbi
@TomalakGeretkal Yeah, but now the list of improvements is all messed up... I (think I) went through all the things you mentioned, but I will upload it at ideone. Stay tuned.
 
I had no idea he's also fluent in german
 
sbi
Ugh. It's ugly, but if you would have a look at ideone.com/fn7Zr...
 
Xeo
@sbi Why are you always using underscores? Habit?
 
sbi
7:54 PM
@Xeo For bold/italics.
 
Xeo
@sbi How about *asterisks*?
 
sbi
@Xeo That works, too.
 
horizontal scrolling crap xD
 
Xeo
Whenever I see a huge amount of underscores, I think I'm lurking through some stdlib header again.
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sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb I said it's ugly. But you can download it and look at it in your editor.
 
7:56 PM
@sbi I know you said it's ugly
why would I download it and look at it in my editor
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Actually he's a grammar nazi. I mean, "there's subtle differences" I learned in the US, not at school.
 
only if I desperately would need its contents
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb So you don't have to croll horizontally?
 
in PHP, 30 mins ago, by teresko
lemme , guess , you are one of the a**holes who thinks that there exist only one operating system on this planet
was that in here?
 
Xeo
> in PHP, 30 mins ago
 
7:58 PM
@sbi dunno. so much work :(
@Xeo ohh I missed that :(
im only having a 1024 screen
 
Xeo
@sbi clicking "clone" already helps. :)
 
and my hair is way too long. missed to get a haircut again this weekend :(
two weeks until my buddies wanna drag me to europa park. i need to look good by then!
 
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