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8:26 PM
@roganjosh probably not (aside from the two earlier answer from the post Thingamabobs posted), but it might shed some light since it's related...
if you never noticed I always link at least one related link whenever someone ask or need help. I know this does not always help, but it helped enough times before that I continue to do it (eg: see backlogs where I talked)
 
As it happens, I have noticed that you post a link for most questions
 
yeah, but they do help most of the time right? :)
 
I'm now asking you for their relevancy to this question
 
right. I guess it wasn't useful this time aside from being related?
 
@NordineLotfi no, actually
 
8:29 PM
you're sure? I don't want to be the one who recall vividly, but I do remember when you, Aran, or others asked something and I contributed with some related links?
 
I know that people find it quite annoying with indiscriminate linking through other channels, if I'm being frank
 
I don't think this is right to call it indiscriminate linking, though. I only post at most one link, rarely 3.
and I only do so when I'm sure this could help or is related
 
You asked me the question, I'm giving you the answer. There are a number of room regulars that really don't appreciate it
 
you mean, from me specifically?
 
Yes
 
8:32 PM
I could see Andras not liking this from me, but didn't know this was to this extent
welp
@roganjosh would you mind if we talked it over on the meta room or would it be inappropriate?
 
I think the point there is that posting links like that sort of assumes that people aren't capable of doing their own research. For regular members, it's better to assume that they have already done the screening of google searches
@NordineLotfi Let me move it
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@roganjosh but it did help before :/ are you telling me I never helped anyone here, even when they explicitly said "thank you" or referred to the link I posted (or my name)?
don't get me wrong, I never assumed people on the room knew less than me. To the contrary. I never posted a simple canonical about "how to use the dict" when I knew that I was trying to help say, you or Aran
 
I'm absolutely not saying that you haven't helped anyone
 
What I am saying is that there are some people that are not taking the links so well
 
8:36 PM
aside from Andras, I can't think of anyone else
 
Well, there are a number of regulars like him. He's a smart guy, and so are the others
 
eh, I never doubted anyone intelligence though? Why mention him being smart?
I always think highly of both him and everyone else on the room
 
So you might see how it rubs them up the wrong way by throwing links at them when they are pretty smart and did all their due-diligence in researching the problem
 
I mean, when I see you talk with say, Andras, I do see some links being throw around that are relevant. Sometimes when I lurk without saying anything, I also notice some links I would have posted if I wanted to talk (or that I found on other tabs, but preferred not to post)
I did notice some members might not appreciate my presence (maybe) but I still stick around either because I like the help I receive, and I want to sometimes help when I can
 
Well, firstly, I'm not saying I'm perfect here
I mess things up all the time, and maybe I get some links right or maybe I get them wrong
But it's not my default to just throw links at the person. I do quite a bit to try understand the problem properly
And, if they are regulars, I would usually make a baseline assumption that they've seen the links I would send them and there is something more to it
There is a benchmark of understanding, and I try to adjust it accordingly. If Aran was asking about data classes, for example, ****-me, I probably need to sit that one out
 
8:43 PM
@roganjosh and that's also what I do though? I can recall two great example, where I helped more than I ever did. One was when Aran mentioned using ctype/win32 api, and another was with another user who was so happy they left a comment on their self-answer (since I only provided clues instead of the actual full solution)
I never try to just, run through without caring about the details...I don't know which instance made you think that (or others)
@roganjosh yeah, I get that
@roganjosh yeah, I usually sit that one out too :)
 
In any case, I think you get the rough picture here. I'm not here to reprimand you or anything, just to say that you might need to be a little more selective over when you link things to people. If you make it your policy to just do it all the time, it doesn't come across well
 
right, I appreciate your advice.
 
That ended that one too easily for a meta chat :P Appreciate it :) Hopefully you have a good weekend lined up @NordineLotfi
 
@roganjosh I actually plan on working some more with tkinter and pygame for some projects...and maybe go sight seeing
what about you?
 
Nothing planned, just a quiet one. I might actually get to work on my own projects for a bit
 
8:51 PM
sounds good :)
 

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