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12:00 AM
Okay
So I think I get 2 messages
One is NCCreate
And then immediately after, NCDestroy
They're both triggered immediately after CreateWindowEx.
So I see no simple black window
 
oh fuck me
 
Which is what I'm told is supposed to happen after I CreateWindowEx a window
 
Dex
 
Don't. Fucking. Spoil. It.
 
@ThePhD are you handling the WM_CREATE?
 
12:03 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I didn't. It's sufficiently vague.
 
If WM_CREATE and WM_NCCREATE are not the same, then no, because I don't get WM_CREATE.
Just NCCREATE
Should I handle that as a WM_CREATE?
 
@ThePhD well, google knows of no such thing as NCCREATE
 
meh.. just use WinForms or something
 
I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO THAT MONSTER, WINFORMS
 
12:04 AM
@ThePhD but you should be receiving a WM_CREATE after calling CreateWindowEx
 
@ThePhD Right, be happy with... what is it you have so far, again?
 
@ThePhD I've been corrected, they are different
@ThePhD from the docs on NCCREATE: "If an application processes this message, it should return TRUE to continue creation of the window. If the application returns FALSE, the CreateWindow or CreateWindowEx function will return a NULL handle."
 
Oh. My WndProc by default just hands down a 0. 0 is FALSE.
... I'm my own worst enemy.
 
These docs things are kinda important
(is that star worthy?)
 
Nah, who cares about docs.
Docs are for Internet strangers to figure out your problem without even having a clue about what the code looks like.
 
12:12 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Strangely enough, where I read all the messages and got the meaning of their integers is from the docs... If only I looked down.
I am ashamed. I apologize.
 
@ThePhD DefWindowProc!
 
I just realized I've set up a system that automatically gets code from the source nightly (barring "changes" that perforce considers "conflicting" with my local code) Is that bad @CatPlusPlus?
seems good
 
@ThePhD Yeah, listen to @MartinJames. Call DefWindowProc at the end of your window proc and return that.
 
gah. We have well over 2000 prerecorded audio phrases. And this FSD doesn't use any of them and we have to spend money to go record some 130 new phrases just because they want it to sound just how they wrote and not use existing audio.
 
FSD?
 
12:26 AM
@DeadMG uh... spec document. "Make the code do this" I know what it's an acronym for, but it's not much more descriptive than FSD was.
 
ah
spec document was enough for me :P
 
@DeadMG oh. well then F is "Functional".
 
@MooingDuck Congratulations, man! :)
 
I just saw a question where someone couldn't figure out how to include the vector header :/
reminded me of this: stackoverflow.com/questions/11231834/… (10k+ rep)
 
@MooingDuck wtf?
 
12:32 AM
I can't see it since it requires 10k+ rep :(
 
@Takarakaka "In my application, I am storing the entire STL containers such as vectors and queues using boost::any. So the code looks like this stack<boost::any>.push(std::priority_queue) Somehow, it worked but consumed a lot of memory.Do you guys see any possible problems of storing the entire STL containers using boost::any?"
@Mysticial it's my favorite SO question ever. Right up there with brainchip
 
@MooingDuck Nah... I've seen dumber ones. :)
@MooingDuck Oh.... that's a good one. :)
 
@Mysticial got a new one today: stackoverflow.com/questions/12680597/… The origional post clarifies the problem somewhat. Correcting it to "English" kinda lost some of the humor....
 
Thanks, @MooingDuck !
 
@MooingDuck wow... how'd I miss that...
I was probably taking a nap 4 hours ago.
 
12:35 AM
I guess I should go and earn some rep, 'cause I can't see any of those posted links! :D
 
I need to get 10k on meta. There's a lot of good reads that get deleted.
 
There seriously needs to be a workaround to view deleted questions if you really want to
 
dunno
I kinda wished that 10k on any site would at least give you read-access to all deleted posts network-wide.
That's the case for chat flags.
 
@Mysticial yeah. It's wierd that SE trusts me here, but not on meta. Not even trusted enough to downvote on meta :(
 
I'd even be happy even if they required a higher threshold for network-wide read-access.
We're trusted to delete stuff on SO, but we can't read stuff on other sites...
 
12:41 AM
wait what. I have two SE accounts?
oops
welp, just made a third on accident.
 
lol
SO y u no good questions?!?! It's been a week since I've answered anything... dammit.
 
HAHAHA stackoverflow.com/users/88656 "Eric Lippert is a principal developer on the Microsoft Visual C# compiler team and a member of the C# language design committee. His primary area of expertise is the design and implementation of the "Roslyn" C# semantic analyzer." has given 1 upvote and 345 downvotes
 
The upvote was a mistake too.
But he does favorite questions though.
 
I dunno any sql. :(
 
me neither
 
In any case... that data explorer needs to be updated badly.
They're "working on it", but it's also pending a bug fix from MS. Who knows how long that will take.
 
oh hey its time to go home
 
lol, I have a perfect analogy to answer this question:
-1
Q: cost on blocked operation was increased by the number of thread

user1407693all. I has written a program with execute some calculations and then merge the result. I used multi-threads to calculate in parallel. During the phase of merge result, each thread will lock the global array, and then append individual part to it, and some extra work will be done to eliminate the...

But the question is too shitty to deserve my answer. :)
 
1:05 AM
SO feels so dead lately.
 
@Rapptz yes it has...
 
It got dead enough for me to play TF2 with you one day.
Also what's the analogy?
 
I'll save it for the next time a similar question pops up. :)
 
Also I didn't mean that I wouldn't play with you if I wasn't bored. If it came off like that lol :(
 
You're supposed to play TF2 when you're bored or just tired after a long day. :)
 
1:09 AM
Been bored a lot lately..
 
I'm not...
I have my qual coming up in a week.
 
Work's okay.. but my 12 hour shifts make me tired.
 
wow... in real time too
 
Real time is for faggots.
 
Ah... answered my first question in 10 days...
 
1:51 AM
People still get offended over words?
 
2:36 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Hmm...somehow reminds me of a time I was taking pictures for a guy's web site. He was opening what was intended to be a gay bar. At one point he nixed a picture because he thought it might attract lesbians. I apparently looked a bit astonished that he'd object to lesbians in a gay bar, so he asked "Do you know the difference between a canoe and a dike?" I still looked confused so he answered: "canoes tip. Dikes don't!"
 
Well, well.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, Weekly World News.
 
@EtiennedeMartel :)
 
 
2 hours later…
4:35 AM
@JamesMcNellis well nice offer, but except for josuttis standard library book all these are for beginners.
 
4:45 AM
who were our GW2 peoples?
@DeadCicada codepad.org/VmN2eWZc (I am of course MD)
Summary:
[8:15:23 PM] MD: having trouble buying Guildwars 2. "Credit card info is invalid"
[9:40:10 PM] MD: OMG THIS IS WHY PEOPLE PIRATE
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Oh, click the "Shop all C++ titles" link at the bottom of the list of "featured" books. Meyers's Effective C++ series is there, as are all of the red-covered Addison Wesley books, C++ Templates, and all of Stroustrup's books. (I don't know whether the discount is available outside of the US, though.)
 
hm i could use some new books. perhaps the book on threading is there
thanks for the link anyway :-)
 
5:08 AM
posted on October 02, 2012

The dual nature of software failure presents a dilemma to programmers.

 
5:24 AM
while registering from GW2:
That password is not available. Either you've used it before, someone else has used it before, or it's known to have been hacked from another game or web site. Please choose a new, unique password for your Guild Wars account. We recommend creating a new password by choosing four random, unrelated words, as shown in this comic strip.
 
user425495
I'm unable to get the example in this answer to compile stackoverflow.com/questions/1008019/c-singleton-design-pattern
 
user425495
I get an error calling a private constructor of class
 
Ambeco.7461
 
user425495
I'm attempting to call S::getInstance() from another class and clang++ complains with the above error
 
posted on October 02, 2012 by Scott Meyers

A lot of uninvited stuff shows up in my electronic mailbox. There's spam, sure, plus my share of links, stories, and pictures from friends and family members who are more easily entertained than I am.  I also get questions and comments and links to C++- and software-related things people think---or hope---I might be interested in. I skip a lot of the "entertainment" I get from friends and

 
5:31 AM
@JustinShrake like this: ideone.com/o8M0J? I implimented the default constructor, and retrieved by reference.
 
user425495
I was not retrieving by reference! Thank you very much
 
user425495
That solved my errors
 
@JustinShrake retrieving by copy isn't going to go far with a singleton :D
'night
 
@MooingDuck An excellent purchase sir.
@MooingDuck Dat boat.
@EtiennedeMartel This is awesome
Makes me wanna register a tweeter account just to tweet faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot.
@MooingDuck I heard some people in USA had problems with "special" credit cards. My VISA was just fine. And you can still use Paypal.
 
5:55 AM
@DeadCicada what's this about salad
 
6:25 AM
Fruit Salad
@EtiennedeMartel That's a site well-done
@MooingDuck They're doing it wrong (undermining sense of trust, making it un-userfriendly. Failing to realize that hashing requires a per-user salt to prevent attacks like this ("it's known to have been hacked from another game or web site" - irrelevant IYAM))
@sbi That'd wouldn't seem like be a problem to me. Seems better than just being online till those times. /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
7:24 AM
mornin'
 
@DeadCicada And already it would be better than 80% of tweet accounts in general
 
@DeadCicada while (true) { tweet("faggot"); sleep(1); }
 
@StackedCrooked Sleep when you're dead: while (true) { fork(); tweet("faggot"); }
 
@Neil Yeah, and have your IP banned in 1 second.
 
@StackedCrooked And what you posted wouldn't?
My solution gets you banned faster and more efficiently :P
 
7:44 AM
0
A: What's the differences between Test t; and Test t();? if Test is a class

Luchian Grigore Test t; declares a variable, Test t(); declares a method taking no parameters and returning a Test.

I've been waiting so long to use this!
 
sbi
@sehe The problem with this is that we did it before my first day at my new job. It did nothing to ease dealing with the terrifying amount of new information rushing onto me. Otherwise, though, it was a very fine evening, and @R.Martinho is a connoisseur of good music. :)
 
mawning
 
how is this morning?
 
pretty quiet as you can see
 
8:01 AM
oh man, drilling going on here
very annoying to work
 
Als
8:15 AM
@TonyTheLion: Hey there
 
Als
Wassup
 
not much
working, as always
you?
 
Als
@TonyTheLion Not working today :)
 
oh you're lucky :)
 
Als
8:17 AM
We all are lucky once in a while ;)
 
morning all
 
what you doing today then?
morning Mr. Pirate.
 
Mr. Lion
 
Als
Lazing around a bit..I need to travel to Morocco this weekend..
 
8:18 AM
ohhhh
sounds like fun
 
Als
@TonyTheLion For work not pleasure :(
 
ah I see
well at least you get to travel
 
I was going to say there must be a horrible catch
 
instead of sitting at a desk all day
 
Als
uhm..yup kinda..lets see ..my first trip to the Africas
 
8:20 AM
well, that should be interesting
I like Africa
seeing I'm a lion, that makes sense. :P
 
oh yeah, I forget Morocco is that side of the Med'
 
Als
lol I don't Africa, so lets see hope it will be good for me
 
Do you not Africa?
 
Als
@thecoshman Actually, had to check out the map to figure that out
 
I might do Africa
@Als ah...
 
8:21 AM
I Africa all the time.
 
Als
lol
 
I don't always Africa...
 
I went to bed early last night to get a good amount of sleep, yet I'm still tired today
meh
 
Als
@TonyTheLion Your action was based on the false premise that sleep can always give rest
 
@Als Is that a false premise?
 
8:23 AM
@Als seems like. What else can provide rest though? I was really tired last night.
saying that, I'm a Lion, I am known to sleep 22hrs a day, on average
 
Als
@StackedCrooked Think of scary dreams...more petrification than rest
 
@StackedCrooked but when you do?
 
@Als I've had plenty of those
 
@thecoshman I bring an Asian.
 
@TonyTheLion too much sleep
 
8:24 AM
@thecoshman urgh :(
 
@TonyTheLion or not enough...
 
but 8hrs should be plenty
I normally get 6-7
and I'm fine
 
Too much sleep can make me feel lazy during the day.
 
I need coffee
In some answers below they suggested to store the entire list as content of the unordered_map. Do you think it would be a better approach? — Matteo 4 mins ago
I have no idea :(
 
You need motivation :p
 
8:25 AM
anybody?
@StackedCrooked batch files are not very motivating
 
@TonyTheLion Matteo is a very memorable character in the movie La meglio gioventù.
 
@sbi Oh that way. Anyways, I just reached the office. 1h30m traffic (of which ~1h+ was traffic jam...)
 
Mmm jam..
 
Skipping classes because fuck syntax trees.
hai guise
 
8:31 AM
@DeadCicada Dead trees :)
 
SyntaxMG
For completeness.
 
They're teaching us compilation in ocaml. Srsly.
Anyway pretty much everything they teach us is either ocaml or prolog. What. The. Fuck.
 
Learning a new language is fun, not?
 
@DeadCicada ocaml is pretty cool
prolog is just a tool for messing up students' heads
 
I'm not saying it's uncool, I'm saying it's totally unsuited for compilation.
 
8:33 AM
works extremely well for that
@DeadCicada Not at all.
 
IIRC OCaml is like Haskell but not pure.
 
@jalf It is. While the asbtract part is great, when it comes to IO it's just fucking annoying.
 
The ML family of languages was basically designed for writing compilers
ML = MetaLanguage iirc
 
Compilers that take no input.
 
@DeadCicada Eh, a compiler takes one input, a source text, and outputs one thing, a program
You don't need many side effects or really any I/O for that
 
8:35 AM
Ocaml takes no input and produces a universe that contains your compiler.
 
So what you're saying isn't so much "ocaml sucks for writing compilers", but "I can't get the hang of (partly) functional languages"? ;)
 
@DeadCicada Wow sounds like an LSD trip.
 
@StackedCrooked Labstract syntax drees. Yes.
 
@DeadCicada I lol'd :D
 
@jalf No no, I'm saying "functional is great!" and "pure functional sucks!"
 
8:37 AM
@DeadCicada but ocaml isn't pure
 
I like Ocaml (prolog not so much), but the way we're writing that compiler is just over complicated. All the IO part is very difficult to get right in functional. IMO.
 
@DeadCicada which IO parts?
 
Reading the input files.
We're supposed to do it in a purely functional fashion.
Maybe I just suck :D
Don't star this.
 
Still seems like fairly simple stuff. You read once at the start of execution, and then you have your data and don't need to do any further I/O.
 
Possibly. I'm probably just bad at this.
I'm having trouble reasoning in a pure functional way. Prolog is even worse!
 
8:40 AM
prolog is insane
 
What's the practical use of that thing? In the industry I mean.
 
> Google's stock market value topped that of long-time rival Microsoft for the first time on Monday
heh
 
What, prolog? Afaik, it's used in some air traffic controllers and stuff like that
I'm honestly not sure why
As I said, I think of it as a tool for messing with people's heads
a task for which it works extremely well
 
Mathematician jerk off tool.
 
also
> 1972 - Alain Colmerauer designs the logic language Prolog. His goal is to create a language with the intelligence of a two year old. He proves he has reached his goal by showing a Prolog session that says "No." to every query.
:)
 
8:42 AM
Ahaha, nice one :)
May I ask what studies you people did?
 
Computer Science here
 
none :(
 
Bachelor Applied Informatics
 
Hi
 
@kbok that's a study?
 
Als
8:45 AM
Bachelor of Instrumentation Engg
I think mines unique ;)
 
@TonyTheLion What ?
Oh, lol
 
2 mins ago, by DeadCicada
May I ask what studies you people did?
@jalf what did you find most interesting in that?
 
General Engineering.
 
Dans quelle école, si je puis me permettre ?
 
I'm a bit ashamed of it. Please don't judge me.
www.eseo.fr
 
8:47 AM
judges
 
@TonyTheLion oh ummmm..... Most of the low level stuff, I think. CPU architecture and optimization and such
 
Are you from Rennes 1 ?
 
@jalf a language with intelligence. that must be some kind of DWIM language. yes?
 
INSA de Rennes.
 
Speaking of French, went to Épernay last week and drank plenty of Champagne :P
 
8:49 AM
Isn't that where Rock&Solex takes place ?
 
@StackedCrooked Good. Tastes differents from the USA "Champagne" (read: apple juice with bubbles)
@kbok It is.
 
@DeadCicada fun fun fun.
 
@jalf oh yea that sounds interesting
 
@StackedCrooked Where are you from btw.
@kbok noise noise noise :D
@sbi Is this a question to you.
 
@DeadCicada Gent, Belgium, like Tony.
 
8:52 AM
@StackedCrooked I'm not from Gent.
 
Oh right.
 
Is that on the Flamand part of Belgium?
 
The flaming part of Belgium
 
oh, no robot today?!
@sehe shush you.
Go back hunting pengiuns
 
8:55 AM
@DeadCicada I went last year with some friends to see Stupeflip and they sucked.
 
@TonyTheLion Good morning to you too
 
good morning
 
createSingletonNamedBeanToRollbackPossible
setUseSessionThreadResourceContext
isLookupEditorIsolationPath
setTypeNestedControlTestTranslation
 
I really can't tell if @DeadCicada is @Cicada ¬_¬ obviously the name implies so, but the manarisms seem off
 
9:00 AM
@kbok Well I live 300m away from the place where they give the concerts. PARTY 4 DAYS.
@thecoshman Gtfo, nigger. Is that ok?
 
@DeadCicada ¬_¬ seems like overcompensating to me... like some one trying to be @Cicada
 
Shit son. My cover unfolds!
I'm actually litb
lol
 
@thecoshman almost everybody here is @johannes in disguise.
 
@DeadCicada ಠ_ಠ
 
@DeadCicada Yeah, partying is great except when it's forced down your throat. (I lived above a night club for one year)
lol, notch changed his "don't be a goat rapist" to "don't be a goat murderer"
 
9:06 AM
Best What-if yet! what a finish :D
@kbok good guy notch, lets you rape goats.... huh?
 
^ From my ux's site. WTF ?
 
@kbok That's hilarious!
 
University
 
@TonyTheLion User eXperience
X sounds cooler than E
 
9:12 AM
Or, I-don't-even-know-what-the-word-is-in-english
The guys I saw yesterday just called me, and told me that they have to drop the recruitment process because they're out of cash.
 
@LuchianGrigore that and 'u' sound like the start of 'user' and 'x' the start of 'experience'
 
@kbok Yeah. My corridor was noisy as hell last year too.
 
9:35 AM
is it me or do other people also have the feeling they are complete idiots when starting a new job?
 
I have that feeling most of the time.
 
@TonyTheLion there are degrees. a sort of background level of "hey, i was pretty dumb yesterday" means you still got your wits with you. a constant "i'm such an idiot" means others are laboring to make you feel or appear dumb (using unexplained terms and so on).
imho
 
@kbok I love mashups of what people presume future technology will be like
I always see it from the point of view of someone from the future looking at those silly "What will the future hold?" films of the 50s and 60s
 
Hello. I'm a bit broken, but I'll be fixed in a couple of days. In case of imminent planetary emergency check: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/
@R.MartinhoFernandes ^ whoops
 
9:51 AM
hmmm
 

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