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6:00 AM
@FĂ©lixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier I think we eagerly wait for election and candidate who want to nominate they have there time beside sleep . You don't think so ?
 
I don't believe I really understand your sentence, but I personally would be ok with candidates pouring in in 5 days or something.
Like, unless one was really just waiting for the elections to drop, I can very well envision candidates really thinking about it before nominating.
 
Thinking about it? Come now, don't be ridiculous.
 
Honestly I wish if Tamas's nomination stayed :P I would have really voted for him.
 
@U12-Forward That's why we can't allow joke nominations...
@FĂ©lixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier I'm still thinking about it.
 
Haha he surely would get elected
Just saying "I will do nothing" and does nothing is better than someone saying "I will do everything" and does nothing.
 
who is Tamas's ?
 
@U12-Forward I'm not sure I follow how it's "better". Equivalent, maybe.
@Shree Someone who nominated themselves shortly after the election opened. Their nomination was deleted, because it was obviously a joke nomination. See chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/53211509#53211509
 
Possibly
 
There is a screenshot of the now-deleted nomination post.
 
6:06 AM
Means it's not visible 10k ?
 
Not even visible to mods or staff
At least, not without some fancy URL manipulation. I can't remember the details from previous elections of how to find the deleted ones.
 
I'm disappointed at the lack of joke answers to the last 5 questions. If you're going to be a joke, actually go all the way with it.
 
Sometimes you just run out of steam?
 
6:09 AM
Ah, nice. But that omits the questionnaire answers. Evidently, they're stored separately...
That's even public.
 
increment it by 1 :)
 
@SamuelLiew Gah! That's terrible!
 
I am entertained. (Answer to the gif someone will no doubt post soon.)
 
nice
well, nights y'all o/
 
6:16 AM
@ElectionBot who should I vote for
 
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
 
Vote for me!
 
Submit your nomination!
 
Already did. You don't see it?
 
Should I hit the Wayback Machine?
 
6:20 AM
Go way back to 2017 :-)
 
Did we even have an internet back then?
 
@Shree Wait, moderators sleep?
 
@RyanM Pre-moderators do.
You're allowed to sleep up until you win the election.
 
@ElectionBot alive
 
I'm alive on electionbot.samliew.com, started on 2021-10-12 06:22:06Z with an uptime of 36 seconds.
 
6:22 AM
haha
 
Do you gain the ability to not need sleep? I could use that.
 
I think that's a requirement going in.
 
Hmm. My experience in the US Navy might qualify me in that case....
 
My cupboard full of energy drinks ought to help, too.
 
Gross!
 
6:24 AM
I mean, hypothetically if I had such a cupboard. That would be unhealthy. Ahem.
 
Who needs energy drinks when the Creator of the Universe gave us coffee?
 
exactly. Renounce the heresy of energy drinks!
 
So a vanilla soy latte is your idea of a 3-bean soup?
 
Is that question addressed to me?
 
Anyone who wants it, I suppose.
 
6:30 AM
@CodyGray that's apocryphal - the canon is black undiluted coffee
 
Is cold brew allowed? Preferably nitro cold brew.
 
Although, this time of year, I suppose it's all about the Pumpkin Spice Latte.
Oh, yeah, even I could do nitro cold brew....
 
I find it odd that anyone who feels the need to always flavor their coffee bothers to drink coffee to begin with. Just drink a vanilla soy latte energy drink.
 
They've had coffee a lot longer than they've had energy drinks, though.
 
I confess to seasonal explorations with both "Peppermint mocha" and "Salted Caramel" but largely go black and bitter.
 
6:32 AM
I hear good things about just adding cinnamon to the black brew.
Although I suppose it's not especially sexy.
 
Cinnamon is a good thing.
Dang. I may need to lower the level in one of the decorative decanters again.
 
6:54 AM
who should I vote for?
 
If you want to make an informed decision on who to vote for, you should read the candidates' answers to the questionnaire, and also look at examples of their participation on Meta and how they conduct themselves.
 
Much better answer than when I asked. :D
 
You didn't like my answer?
 
Zoe
Still no new candidates?
 
Did you quote Casablanca?
 
6:59 AM
Didn't you hear about that guy Joe?
 
Joe :P
 
Zoe
:p
 
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
@ElectionBot what is my candidate score
 
@DanielWiddis Your candidate score is 23 (out of 40). You are missing these badges: Copy Editor, Refiner, Sportsmanship. Perhaps consider nominating in the election?
 
7:04 AM
@ElectionBot what is my candidate score
what is my candidate score
 
@U12-Forward Wow! You have a maximum candidate score of 40! Please consider nominating yourself in the election!
 
@ElectionBot what is my candidate score
 
@RyanM Your candidate score is 32 (out of 40). You are missing this badge: Sportsmanship. Perhaps consider nominating in the election?
 
How come @U12-Forward gets a "please" and I get a "perhaps" ?
 
Cuz I got 40/40
 
7:06 AM
@ElectionBot Ah, a nice, round number...
 
Tell that to the aliens.
 
Wow! Your candidate score is 32 because you are missing a single badge?
 
So are you going to nominate? :)
 
Me? Nope :P
 
Me? ...well, I have a text file with a lot of text in it, so...maybe.
 
7:06 AM
I need to look up this Sportsmanship badge.
 
@RyanM Oooh
 
@RyanM Is that all it takes to nominate? Oof.
 
@CodyGray Well, you also need badges. And an internet connection.
 
Be careful that it is not too much text. Apparently, there are still character limits, although they are secret.
 
7:08 AM
@CodyGray Given that Makyen was able to nominate, I suspect I will be fine ;-)
 
Zoe
@CodyGray Reputation is literally half the candidate score :')
 
When Makyen answered the questionnaire, it was on Meta, which has the standard 30k character limit. Apparently, the integrated questionnaire has a tighter limit now.
 
Oh, that's fun...well, I guess I'll see.
 
Also, it probably took Makyen hours to optimize for size.
 
Zoe
@CodyGray ~12k
 
7:11 AM
I just had to look up @RyanM's reputation, and found essentially the same value. COINCIDENCE?!
 
Zoe
Gasp! Illuminati confirmed!
 
@Zoe ...eek, I'm at 10604 currently. Fortunately it's mostly done...
that seems a touch low, considering it includes the question text (4730 characters)...
 
Speaking of, @Zoe, I came up with a solid workaround. Since it's counting characters, rather than bytes, you can just replace entire phrases with a single Unicode emoji.
 
Zoe
Please hold while I rewrite all my answers in totally understandable emoji
 
The scary part is.... that's actually probably possible.
 
Zoe
7:13 AM
🔥👍🏡💻
 
"totally understandable"? No, not possible.
 
Zoe
Exactly
 
Although, it might be under-handedly clever, as people will just read it as saying whatever they think it should say.
 
@CodyGray Nobody ever does that.
 
Zoe
Yeah, definitely not real politicians
 
7:15 AM
Please tell me there are not "real politicians" talking in emojis.
Wait, on second thought... don't tell me.
 
<multiple capitalized undending HAHAHA deleted here>
Part of me wants to google to find the answer. The other part of me is recoiling in horror.
 
Time to say , Zoe good luck .
 
Yeap
If no other candidates, Zoe will have an easy time...
 
I'd bet a large sum of money there will be more candidates. :)
 
Lol
 
7:17 AM
in SOBotics, Jun 25 '19 at 12:45, by Shree
in 2019 Stack Overflow Moderator Election Chat, Mar 12 at 19:38, by Bhargav Rao
Yeah, that's bad.. true devs never sleep..
 
hahaha
 
@Shree woah hello! long time, how are you :)
 
Election vibe. Fine how are you ?
 
@cs95 Will you submit your nomination this year?
 
@U12-Forward not true. if there are no other candidates, there won't be any new mods
 
7:20 AM
@U12-Forward nah, that ship has sailed ... or has it ?!
 
oppps may I submit :P for Zoe victory :)
 
@cs95 I think you should :)
I voted for you as 1st choice IIRC last time
 
Given that :P means sticking your tongue out, I'm not sure whether that's good or bad
 
@Shree I think you could be a good mod
 
nah, there's people investing way more time on this site than i do these days who deserve a shot before i do ... the line is long
 
7:22 AM
@cs95 I feel you on the "imposter syndrome" :-)
 
@cs95 Ah, it says at least "30 mins" a day, you could :)
 
@U12-Forward Naaa . Time wait and see.
 
@U12-Forward If there were one 30-minute daily work meeting that you could eliminate from your life how much would you pay? :D
 
7:27 AM
I don't have any 30-minute work meetings :-(
All last a minimum of an hour, often longer.
 
Its about morning stand up meeting ?
 
Is it the 30-minute-scheduled meeting that lasts an hour? :D
 
The hour meeting that lasts 2 or 3...
 
And drags on for another 3532542542 hours
 
"We'll stop for now, as I don't want to waste too much of anyone's time. Let's continue tomorrow/next week."
Aaaarrrggghhh!
 
7:29 AM
lol
 
Just. Get. It. Over. With!
 
Zoe
@CodyGray You should tell them the meeting was a waste of time to begin with :p
 
Not telling people that is how I manage to keep my job, @Zoe.
 
You mean stand up meeting is waste of time ?
 
I have mastered the art of dual-booking meetings.
I tell both meetings I'm double booked. Which is the truth.
 
7:31 AM
Ours aren't really stand-up meetings. And boy am I glad, because I don't want to stand for hours talking about all kinds of dumb stuff.
 
I attend neither. I get emailed a summary of important points. Meanwhile, I hang out in SO chat.
 
30 minutes of chilling and munching on more chips
Like the Tamas guy :P
 
(Not completely true. Not completely false either.)
 
@DanielWiddis That might work if you could trust the other people who attend the meeting not to make foolish decisions and/or dump all the work on you in your absence.
 
Zoe
@U12-Forward Would you like some dip with that?
 
7:33 AM
Haha
Yes
 
@CodyGray Ah, but I strategically attend the "Triage" meeting where work is assigned and think of all my colleagues who are GREAT at solving the problems presented.
 
It's a relief to have good colleagues.
 
@CodyGray Or colleagues who "need to learn" something.
 
As long as "learn" doesn't mean "screw it up and/or do nothing until you finally have to come in and 'help'".
Maybe my bitterness is showing.
 
In all seriousness, I think we can all expect new engineers to "screw it up" occasionally. Heck, even old farts like me screw it up on a regular basis.
 
7:39 AM
Oh, of course.
What frustrates me is people who never seem to learn.
 
Indeed.
 
Yep
 
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
@CodyGray Did you expect more rep? :-)
 
@RyanM Well, I guess I forgot how much influence rep has over the candidate score. I was thinking that you had reached a level of "rep sufficiency" that it wouldn't penalize you in terms of the candidate score.
 
7:47 AM
Ah, fair. Alas, I am not there yet.
 
10k being a reasonable level for "rep sufficiency"
 
There was some chatter with Catija over in SOCVR not too long ago about how the score could be improved.
 
Was any conclusion reached?
 
Wide agreement that the current system is bad ;-)
(digging it up now)
 
Ah. I don't suspect that required too much discussion...
Nor elicited too much disagreement
 
Zoe
7:49 AM
I don't really see how you'd make a better score though
 
meetings are at least a good excuse to not have to work if you don't feel like it
 
@Zoe Meta rep. <evil grin>
 
Zoe
:p
 
Mostly started here
One idea that got a lot of praise was just...more stats rather than trying to condense everything into one number.
 
Sneaky, push the assessment off on humans.
 
Zoe
7:51 AM
That would've been nice actually
 
if there's any one person you'd like to see step up to the plate this election (besides me, of course), who would it be?
I hope that's not an inappropriate question
 
I think the people I most want are not going to nominate.
For whatever that is worth.
 
Either because they've already left entirely, or because they've essentially faded out their participation to the point where they're definitely not going to be taking on moderation.
 
Ah, a lot of things changed after that Monica incident
Less participators, less people trusting the community for nominating as mod
Anyone in this room that wants to nominate?
 
Zoe
7:58 AM
@U12-Forward Oh, I'd love to!
:p
 
Yah! I meant except for you, you already nominated
 
Zoe
I know, just couldn't resist :p
 
:D
Wanna have that diamond :D
 
New Cyndi Lauper remix: Girls Just Wanna Have That Diamond
 
:PPPP
All of my 4 tongues sticking out
 
Zoe
8:02 AM
:D
 
:DDDD
 
Zoe
Then suddenly, mine turtle
 
Mine turtle?
 
Zoe
from asdfmovie
 
Right, a meme I don't know about. Who is surprised?
 
Zoe
8:04 AM
It's the source of "I like trains!", if that jogs your memory :p
 
I don't think so. The one I'm familiar with is the kid being interviewed by some newscaster, who says, "I like turtles".
Ten-year-old Jonathan Ware, to be precise.
 
@CodyGray i mean, would you still in good conscience vote for someone who is all but inactive on the site but still decides to run for schiffs and giggles?
 
@cs95 No, I wouldn't vote for anyone who is running for schiffs and giggles.
I don't support joke candidates.
Or protest candidates, assuming that the "protest" is "do nothing" or something equally as stupid and simplistic.
 
aye, we had one of those last year
i'm very surprised at how long it was tolerated
 
8:08 AM
@Zoe Nowhere near as good as "The Fox".
 
Zoe
Sure, but that's because we produced it and not sweden :p
 
asdfmovie is Swedish?
 
Zoe
Nope, it's apparently british. Thought tomska was swedish though
 
Ah, well, even the Swedes are better than the Brits, amirite?
 
Zoe
He's indeed british xd I have no idea where I got swedish from
oh well
 
8:14 AM
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
Thank you
 
See below ↓
 
You can only nominate yourself as a candidate during the nomination phase. You'll need at least 3000 reputation, have these badges (Civic Duty, Convention, Deputy, Strunk & White), and cannot have been suspended anywhere on the Stack Exchange network within the past year. You cannot nominate another user.
 
@PDHide There is a "nominate yourself as a candidate" link at the bottom of the election page. If you don't see it, it is probably because you are not eligible.
Yeah, you've got plenty of rep, but you're missing the required badges.
 
Zoe
candidate score 6793637
what is the candidate score for 6793637
 
8:22 AM
The 40-point candidate score is calculated this way: 1 point for each 1,000 reputation up to 20,000 reputation (20 points); and 1 point for each of the 8 moderation, 6 editing, and 6 participation badges (20 points)
 
Zoe
what is the candidate score for 6793637
 
@Zoe The candidate score for user Zoe is 39 (out of 40). The user is missing this badge: Sportsmanship.
 
Zoe
Seriously?
 
(it's 17)
 
Zoe
what's the candidate score for 6793637
 
8:23 AM
@Zoe Please read my previous message...
 
Zoe
Worked fine yesterday
@Scratte What do you mean?
 
Some of the answers are married.
 
Zoe
And they didn't invite me to the wedding? smh
 
what is my candidate score
 
@Shree Your candidate score is 37 (out of 40). You are missing these badges: Investor, Sportsmanship. Perhaps consider nominating in the election?
 
8:26 AM
It was a small, intimate affair. They didn't want a big thing.
 
Humm need more work for 40
 
Needs more investment :-)
 
Zoe
@Shree You only need 46 more rep for another point
 
what's the candidate score for 965146
 
@U12-Forward The candidate score for user U12-Forward is 40 (out of 40).
 
8:28 AM
@Zoe :D works on it; hard to find answerable question :P
 
You could ask one!
 
Zoe
Finding questions that haven't been asked is even harder :')
 
Not sure I believe that
 
I think Cody going to spread bounty :P
 
Do an Q&A
Q: "Hi, what's 1 + 1", A: "It's 3"
 
8:31 AM
I'm a huge advocate of self-answered Q&A.
It's like all the best parts of Documentation, Articles, and every other ill-advised attempt on the part of staff to re-implement self-answered Q&A.
 
I know that so why I fan yours.
 
If I had more time and/or cared more about getting rep, I'd post more of them myself.
(Can you care "more" when you currently care none?)
 
Zoe
@U12-Forward "You can use jQuery with react to prove that 1 + 1 is 3"
 
I have this one
@Zoe HAHAHA
accidentally on caps lock
 
Did you know you can remap your Caps Lock key to something useful, like Control?
 
8:33 AM
Really?
 
Haha, yeah. Supported natively in the control panel in macOS. Windows has built-in support, too, but you have to edit the registry, so most people use a little utility to configure it.
Virtually all Linux desktops should support it, too.
 
Nah, not that's too hard, don't want to click to Settings, too lazy :P
 
Some fancy keyboards also have DIP switches for it, but most of mine aren't that fancy.
Or they are very old, like the Model M.
 
Zoe
Checks out (Cinnamon)
 
No o need any bounty , I deserve what I do, I believe I soon I met the target.
 
8:36 AM
Okay, I think I've got something that I'm happy with, but it's also 1:30 AM...
 
@Zoe You doubt that I know what I'm talking about? Talk about a head-shaker...
@RyanM Is that a problem? I find I'm usually happiest towards the middle of the night.
 
what's the candidate score for 6793637
 
@SamuelLiew The candidate score for user PDHide is 18 (out of 40). The user is missing these required badges: Convention, Deputy, Strunk & White.
 
Zoe
@CodyGray I guess you could call it a gray area :door:
 
Works for mods
 
8:37 AM
I'm doing this thing where I try to have a normal-ish sleep schedule
 
I'm sad to say that you don't appear to be succeeding.
 
I did say "try"... ;-) ...and "-ish"
 
Right. Whatever would persuade you to try such a foolish thing?
 
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
@ElectionBot commands
 
8:43 AM
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- [alive] bot reports on its status
- [debug] switches debugging on/off
- [fun] switches fun mode on/off
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- [get cron] lists scheduled announcements
- [get throttle] gets current throttle (in seconds)
- [set throttle] sets throttle to N (in seconds)
- [chatroom] gets election chat room link
- [mute] (timeout, sleep) prevents the bot from posting for N minutes
- [unmute] allows the bot to speak immediately
- [get time] gets current UTC time and the election phase time
- [get rooms] get list of rooms where bot is in
- [leave room] makes bot leave a room (room ID)
- [coffee] brews some coffee for the requestor
- [set access] sets user's access level
- [timetravel] (delorean, 88 miles) sends bot back in time to another phase
- [commands] (usage) Prints usage info
- [die] (shutdown) stops the bot in case of emergency
- [greet] (welcome) makes the bot welcome everyone
- [announce winners] makes the bot fetch and announce winners immediately
- [whois] (list moderators, list mods, get mods) retrieve mods from another site
 
@Zoe I think you should try to get the Sportmanship badge :)
If you're close enough
Then you could be 40/40
 
Zoe
I'm at 14/100
 
@CodyGray In no small part, the fact that most of my meetings are in the morning. It is the cost of a team that spans across an ocean.
 
@Zoe Ah
 
@ElectionBot leave room 190503
 
8:44 AM
left room 190503
 
@ElectionBot leave room 190503
 
Tell that to the aliens.
 
:))
 
@RyanM Ah, yeah; that is rough. My preferred solution for that is to have meetings late at night in my time zone (which is morning for the overseas folks), but that often isn't appreciated by coworkers who are in the same time zone as me.
 
Why 40/40 guaranty for diamond I don't think so ?
 
8:45 AM
Yeah, I would not personally mind a 1am meeting, but I suspect most of my local coworkers would...
I deliberately say "most" and not "all," though, based on when I've seen some of them work...
 
I've done several midnight-ish meetings when working with folks in Germany. That puts it around 8 or 9 AM there.
Works fine when I'm the only one from the US needed on the call. Which is...often.
@Shree It isn't a guarantee of election, for sure. The candidate score doesn't really mean all that much, especially since a good half of it is just reputation. The difference between 10k rep and 20k rep really isn't that important.
@RyanM What always blows my mind is when you see people working (sending emails) late at night, and then see the same person also sending emails early in the morning. I mean, humans really do have to sleep sometime.
All I can figure out is that they wake up, send emails, and then go back to sleep. Which is... bizarre. But explains the lack of coherency.
 
@CodyGray 20k deletion , you much care ?
 
Oh, that's a nice privilege to have, for sure. But doesn't really help you be a better moderator.
 
@CodyGray I have on occasions woken up, attended a meeting, and gone back to sleep. Which is exactly what I want to avoid by having a better sleep schedule.
 
Heh. I've done that many times.
Anything before 10 AM, and that's pretty much inevitable.
The world is not easy on night owls.
And forcing us to adapt our sleep schedule is not nice!
 
8:52 AM
What is sleep?
 
Temporary periods of unconsciousness in between handling flags.
 
@CodyGray Weird, when I have calls with Texans we do it around 4pm so for them it's some time in the morning
 
@BhargavRao It's like "sheep" but different.
 
@CodyGray Why. delete every things depend upon 20k ? why it's not related ?
 
@Nick Some Texans get up in the morning, I guess.
Some Texans also own guns, vote for Donald Trump, refuse to wear masks, ...
 
8:53 AM
Are you still in Texas, or back in the Bay?
 
We're a diverse state. :-)
Still in Texas.
Haven't gotten the state fixed yet.
 
@BhargavRao Ahhh Bhargav around . welcome.
 
Allo \o
 
o/
 
@CodyGray I guess we also have Indians in the call as well sometimes and it makes it not stupid o'clock for them, I just have the luxury of being in UTC+0/1 :p
 
Zoe
8:55 AM
And we have the year's first vote ratio comment!
 
Why is that a luxury?
Time zones are completely arbitrary.
 
It means when they're abolished nothingll actually change for me heh
 
You're dreaming.
We can't even abolish daylight savings time.
 
I know, and every time we try those silly old politicians come up with some bs reason for it being useful
 
> Do you think mostly voting down is the best way to manage the quality of the content on stackoverflow?
Abso-freakin-lutely!
In other news... did Zoe just get compared to my man Trump?
 
8:59 AM
@Zoe good thing mine is only ~1:7.39... My response to this is that my upvote-to-downvote ratio on non-deleted posts is around 1.66:1.
 
Yes, yes she did
 

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