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7:34 PM
original time was 6,9 min, running for 19min already and not even finished lol
thanks for information mate
suppose I'll have to change the data structure into rectangular array
if I want to get better speed than before
 
I think I've stated a few times that you need to work on how you formulate the problem for a computer rather than these kind of optimisations
 
why you have the impression I have to work on it, rogan?
maybe I don't get what you're trying to say
because I don't see what could improved other than optimizing those optimization functions
 
@PedroSpinola That doesn't make any sense. If you don't have to work on it, why is it becoming our problem?
 
I don't see what you mean mate
I have formulated the problem for a computer the best I could for my abilities lol
 
I think wires have been crossed on re-reading. By "work on it" I meant that you'll get better gains by reformulating the problem
 
7:43 PM
you mean the optimization structure itself, or the way the general algorithm uses the optimization structure?
what you recommend I do to go towards this direction you are suggesting?
if it was a simple problem I would just formulate it here and you would tell me what you think
but it ain't simple, and I don't to bother you guys or abuse your good will in any manner
 
I don't know, because I've never been able to get a grip on the problem you're trying to solve. In the back of my mind, it feels like you're trying to do what I do as a day job, but you're always vague about the details
 
I have no problem whatsoever sharing the details, apart from this I just mentioned.
 
@PedroSpinola I don't think you're abusing good will here. But it's getting frustrating for me, personally, because I think it can be closed off but I have no way of even attempting if I can't see the full picture
 
I apologize josh, I was refraining myself with the sole purpose of not bothering you people or getting expelled from SO (I've had a few problems with my SO questions already).
Lemme give you the full picture:
ask me if I miss anything
 
@PedroSpinola I just like trying to solve things :P There's no need to apologise but I feel like we sorta keep lurching forward into the unknown
 
8:08 PM
there you go josh: pastebin.com/7D3iP57q
 
Thanks. Is this commercial or academic work?
 
no. I've written for yourself
the algorithm is commercial and includes academic work
of course
I can provide more info into exactly how I'm modelling the optimization, if you want.
 
I used to work with plants a lot. A lot of my work was in dealing with their variability (due to environmental factors). You could feed certain markers (for example, I tried Thin Layer Chromatography as a cheap, in-the-field test) to a model, but it wouldn't be something that could be addressed by solving combinatorial problems
 
8:23 PM
so you were using TLC for testing exactly what?
yeah, the thing is usually most weed is on pre-seed stage, which doesn't require solving for combination of dosis. also it would be obviously unviable to make the calculations by hand, and we're the first to make a software for it :D
but of course, our model in unproven (for now)
 
@PedroSpinola anything. I had a dye and tried to correlate the intensity of spots (whatever they were) to optimal processing conditions
 
*dosis/acre is fixed for pre-seed stage per herbicide
nice man
where were the farms, what country?
 
I used Phosphomolybdic acid. I couldn't get a decent calibration curve and there was a lot of interference. I could shove samples through an LC-MS/MS but that costs £500K and I don't think people have that kinda cash behind the sofa
 
there's a lot to be done while crossing tech and rural areas, at least here in Brazil
 
@PedroSpinola Africa, China, other East-Asian countries
 
8:31 PM
I see. Your worked remote, right?
I'm curious because here we have this problem of security to the use of tech in the field - if it's unattended, it will be stolen - and securing it costs a fee most people ain't paying for now lol
the 500k wouldn't be justified by efficiency gains?
 
lol no
 
I mean for sensors and that kinda stuff
I see
 
That's to buy the kit, then you need a technician
 
well, we live in the Kingdom of Efficiency
if you could make it be viable, or even interesting, you could start it up
 
artemisinin used to sell below the price that it cost to produce it
 
8:34 PM
wow lol
 
Anyway, this is probably getting too much off-topic, I just get drawn into the debate sorry
 
yeah.
last comment: I got really surprised these last months by knowing how much space there is for tech in rural businesses all sizes - just amazing
 
There's a massive space for it because everyone is fixated about how everyone is online. My industrial supervisor was from GSK and made a comment "it all needs to be dug up from the ground". It took me off-guard because I never connected pharmaceuticals with mining, but it's true. I think it's like 4% of global energy goes into crushing rocks
 
and maybe around 2% for internet :D
well the space is there because we can make efficiency gains using computers and intelligence, and at least here rural areas are not entirely connected to the internet nor are their populations "digitally educated" yet. so available tech just ain't applied
lot's of low hanging fruits - particularly for small-medium rural businesses
 
8:50 PM
Maybe. You'd probably be better focusing on Stevia.
 
my partner research was into sugar cane, but who knows about the future
you had a weed-problem with stevia?
also sugar cane is Queen here. second largest culture in the country, if I'm not mistaken
didn't know this was a thing lol
 
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I'm probably too tired to give reasonable answers tonight, but it's not really relevant to Python so I moved the convo here
 
what city you live in?
I have a brother with his family living in the uk lol
 
9:17 PM
Manchester. It's prominent on my profile
 

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