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10:52 AM
room topic changed to Bad Stack Overflow Reviews: Room to report bad Stack Overflow reviews, no one-boxing please. (no tags)
Report links to reviews with a space in front to avoid oneboxing, one per line. E.g.:
 stackoverflow.com/review/triage/25517682
 stackoverflow.com/review/triage/12345678
 stackoverflow.com/review/triage/87654321
For now, we are only focusing on completed Triage reviews in the past 7 days, with at least two users voting for "Requires Editing", and the question has at least one close vote or is already closed. Bad Triage reviews like these can be easily found from H&I review queue, going to the post timeline, and finding a previous Triage review.
 
11:11 AM
Bonus if someone can write a bot to detect Triage reviews with "Requires Editing" & Helper reviews that are later closed
 
It's okay to discuss stuff here on top of reporting Triage reviews, I want this to be done properly and transparently
What I'll do is probably check this room twice a day and open up all the new links and processing them
 
I understand that there may be some overlap of what I'm currently doing vs looking at reports.

My existing workflow is going to H&I, my userscript allows me to directly close questions there (which also invalidates the H&I review), then click a userscript-generated button which opens up the last Triage review. Then at the Triage review, click another userscript-generated button which opens up the moderator review ban form for each user who voted "Requires Editing". My userscript then populates a canned message specifically for Triage, and fetches user's review ban history, then populates t
 
@SamuelLiew Does it just catch Requires Editing users or Looks OK as well?
 
11:37 AM
@SamuelLiew Note also that the link I posted above is one where OP has posted a virtually exact copy of their previous question (posted and closed yesterday: stackoverflow.com/q/60504680/10871073).
 
I mostly focus on those that selected "Requires Editing", but if the question is particularly bad I'll also review ban those that selected "Looks OK" with the standard canned reason. (Canned review ban messages from my userscript)
 
Understood
 
so don't worry about providing an explanation of the triage links you post here. If they are invalid I'll just ignore them.
 
@SamuelLiew Just Triage or, as in stackoverflow.com/posts/60521663/timeline, do you look at corresponding "Looks OK" in First Posts?
 
11:42 AM
just Triage for now
I'll ignore other queues reported here unless they are like super duper bad (then you should provide a short reason with the link)
 
Are duplicates a concern or should we search for review id's to try to prevent dupes?
 
avoid dupes if possible, but don't worry if there are because I'm gonna have to check anyway to avoid overlap with what I normally do
 
12:38 PM
all good so far :)
 
Yeah, triage isn't in 40 review range unfortunately ;p
 
2:13 PM
ok thanks
 
2:44 PM
this room is already working, I've got new comments on meta.stackoverflow.com/a/389149
 
Oof
Looks good though, promising to see people come for assistance ~~in one way or another~~
 
2:56 PM
@SamuelLiew your answer was really helpful and decided to join this room so that I can learn more n more :)
can you please have a look to this one also? As I'm banned stackoverflow.com/review/triage/25471439
 
@WaqarUlHaq This room is fairly (a few hours old), and while I'm not certain, I think the primary goal is to assist with identifying and raising bad reviews taking places (people stating Requires Editing instead of Unsalvagable) as was almost certainly the case in the link you provided (I can't see deleted posts so can't tell), so I think it's likely that the best that will come from you linking that post is the other reviewers being banned as well, if they're not already
fairly new*
 
3:25 PM
@SamuelLiew This may have some overlap with what you're already doing, but I drafted this SEDE query which grabs links to Triage reviews on questions posted in the last week, where the question has been closed.
Unfortunately, I have not found a way to filter the results based on minimum number of "Requires Editing", as the Triage Comment column is empty and the ReviewTaskResultTypeId is inconsistent at best.
 
3:57 PM
It's midnight here, I'll take a look in the morning
 
@Nick thanks for the detailed feedback.
 
No rush. Just one way to hopefully help. Get some good sleep
 
4:23 PM
Also, cheeky change to the review queue helper, removing "Needs Editing" from the Triage options. I like it ^_^
 
4:40 PM
A ban seems overblown given the circumstances, feedback through a message would be much more proportional
 
@Shayaan a moderator message is a hefty hammer to use for this.
A review ban is way more lightweight.
 
Martijn.... in chat? what is this?
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@MartijnPieters hmm, yeah I suppose that's fair, I guess outside of SO I would expect the opposite
 
@Nick how many users that review also use chat? And that requires the moderator to then be ready to respond, to potentially many different users.
 
I think he was just surprised that you were in chat :)
 
4:43 PM
If you read this post, Sam explains why review suspensions are the correct course of action
 
Ah, perhaps ;-)
 
I was ^^" Don't see you often
 
> Please do not be disheartened by a review suspension, as it is the least drastic action that moderators can take to bring an issue privately to your attention without sending an official moderator message or account-level suspension.
 
Exactly
 
(from Sam's post)
 
4:44 PM
Also, good to have the diamond-powered sockpuppet account in chat :D
 
What would be nice is a message which isn't seen as more drastic than a ban. Like an informational "btw, this review should have been handled differently". I worry that bans discourage reviewers
I guess that's a feature request though, thanks for clearing things up for me!
 
 
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5:50 PM
Really, we just need a SEDE for 95% of what's in H&I. Here's another bad set stackoverflow.com/review/triage/25522349
And our quote of the day
I also didn't realize the subtle nuances of the "Requires Editing" option, but thanks to this post I do now. I won't be as hesitant to select the "Unsalvageable" option when I get back to it in 7 days as I was before. Thank you. — EarlGrey Feb 12 at 22:25
 
does anyone know how to remove the ban from asking questions i've got banned?
 
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Q: What can I do when getting “We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account”?

Robert HarveyDo not repost the question you were about to ask until you have READ EVERYTHING WE ARE ABOUT TO TELL YOU. While trying to ask a question, one could get: We are no longer accepting questions from this account. See the Help Center to learn more. Likewise, for answers: We are no longer a...

 
6:07 PM
ok so i can't delete the questions i can only fix them(which i tried) basically i cannot ask any questions for 6 months thanks for sharing the answer
 
And mods can't fix it either. That's handled behind the scenes. There's nothing we can do to help you. Sorry :(
 
it's ok
 
@Machavity Was that in response to the SEDE query I posted earlier? I can make another one that incorporates H&I
 
@Das_Geek Sorry, shoulda been clearer. That's just one I found
@Manik You might want to read up some on what's on-topic incidentally. Scrolling around your question list, things like What is the best X are generally off-topic
 
Actually quite proud of that query. Had to do a fair bit of digging to find the right magic numbers to get it to work
 
6:33 PM
@Das_Geek You rival rene or Shog9 with it. Seriously
 
@Machavity ohk i thought that question was alright!:D
 
@Manik I think you're close to an acceptable question, but I would narrow it down some and avoid asking what would be the best approach to doing this?. You have some code in there, build on it
Incidentally, we do something similar where I work. I would recommend Python over Node.JS for what you're talking about
 
ok
@Machavity can you tell me why i should use Python instead of Node.JS so that i can convince my friend?
he told me to use Node.JS bcz of sockets.io and node.js is better for networking stuff
 
6:49 PM
@Manik Mostly opinion, but Python did a good job of associating the scanners and reading the data. We shove it into a MySQL DB and have nginx and PHP display it to anything on the LAN
Never worked with Node so I can't say it's better or worse
 
actually i AM having a problem with getting input data using serialport library in Node.JS i'm getting this error Error: Invalid argument setting custom baud rate of 9600
@Machavity anyway tysm for helping! :)
 
 
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10:06 PM
@Machavity That's...a pretty hefty compliment. Not quite sure I've earned that much yet, but thanks.
 
11:46 PM
@Das_Geek thanks, perhaps to make it more useful you can ignore posts that were closed as duplicate. let me know if you manage to get this in so I can follow up
reports processed up to this point so far, thanks
 

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