« first day (3172 days earlier)      last day (608 days later) » 

3:11 AM
@giuliolunati Your presentation was very well received! I actually hadn't watched it until the conference, myself (!)
Didn't have time to subtitle it so I just read your transcript out loud very-poorly-in-sync (not in an Italian accent). But pretty amazing stuff. You may have tempted me to build some kind of NDK-based Android feature extension...
You've made that look pretty turnkey and easy to do, so I have to do it now.
@JacobGood1 For anyone not aware, my conference surprise was... tcc bootstrap. A Rebol built with the TCC extension can now run the single command bootstrap.
7
You can have a fresh Ubuntu installation with no gcc, no make, no cmake, no wget, no curl, no (...) and have one r3 executable that you load and type "bootstrap" and that builds a new r3, pulling down the source over Rebol TLS with Rebol HTTP and unzips it with Rebol unzip and builds it with Rebol rebmake via CALL commands to a Rebol EXE implementing POSIX C99 command line conventions.
Well that was one surprise... the other surprise is ginormous annotated FizzBuzz :-)
Had to have something on the wall!
 
 
1 hour later…
4:32 AM
@HostileFork very cool!
 
@JacobGood1 We wound up filling like, all of the time, from more or less 9am-6pm both days
 
when do you think the vids will be available?
 
4:54 AM
@JacobGood1 Well you can watch Giulio's minus subtitles right now, he posted it above. :-) BrianOtto made a youtube video plus slide deck as well. The rest I am going to have to edit and I don't know much of a promise on that besides "likely I will get them all done within this month", one at a time.
@JacobGood1 One main takeaway is I think that people are comfortable and excited about the WebAssembly direction--I think even Atronix whose current product set Linux/Windows/RaspPi/low-priority-Mac builds sees value in having that browser presence or option, especially now that we see a lot of practical old-school C code being deployed for real at near-native speed
 
5:25 AM
@GreggIrwin did make it to the conference, and while I don't anticipate any particular change in spirit or process on their side of the wire, he did listen and he did take notes. I took a Red T-shirt and wore it to dinner as a sign of... uh... well, something.
4
My opinions aren't any changed on the technical matters--but I might soften/edit some things, e.g. this post, due to what I perceive as a possibly sincere effort to understand something that is perhaps beyond their grasp. Showing up makes a difference. How much? We will see.
@Edoc took a long time to build up to explaining what he meant by his SQL-like dialect, but when he did show it, it seems like a tool I think most of us would like to use.
We may have won over a local, George, who you might see here in the channel or the forum. :-)
@MarkI's obsession with the peculiarities of %l-scan.c led to what can probably be used as an introduction to what makes Rebol's methodology different (and a lot of code that can, in the worst case, be looked at to ask which weird decisions were bugs vs. pointing in a direction of potential future development)
@DaviddenHaring had two presentations, one of which went into a pretty deep demo of what ZOE is and does; @ShixinZeng explained the FFI additions (which we need to get back into the Travis-CI builds/tests for Ren-C, they got dropped off due to just not having dev cycles to keep it all up to date)
@rgchris showed a batch of projects we've seen here and there over time, though I still say the next demo should be a fully-in-browser StyleTalk, so that should probably still be a goal.
 
 
2 hours later…
7:57 AM
the progress seems really impressive
3
 
 
4 hours later…
11:35 AM
@HostileFork Woo!! very happy! Thank you so much to you HF, to @rgchris and all other people for this great opportunity for a virtual meeting and for all the energy you have dedicated!
6
@sqlab Yes, it is!
 
 
3 hours later…
2:36 PM
@giuliolunati Thanks Giulio. Thanks again for your video!
 
2:51 PM
posted on July 08, 2019 by Christopher Ross-Gill

A huge thank you to everyone that attended/contributed to Rebol [2019] here in sunny Philadelphia*. It was a blast and there were some monumental presentations. I will update the conference site shortly with links and videos as they become available. If you did contribute and would attach some links to your talks, please email them to me. *it is always except for that moment a tornado warning

 
 
1 hour later…
4:11 PM
switch type of first ['''3] [
    '''@integer [...]  ; evaluative switch means this would need one more tick :-(
]
Beyond legacy, this might be an argument for distinguishing the quoting-by-default SWITCH (which would not work with DEFAULT) from an evaluative CHOOSE that would.
Another option for datatypes is URL!/URN. type of 10 => datatype:integer, and some kind of extensible scheme like that is needed for the datatypes that are coming from extensions (e.g. IMAGE! and STRUCT! and other things that aren't built in, image!: datatype:xyz.com/image
 
 
2 hours later…
6:00 PM
Another concept could be that types are structured and always expressed as blocks, so (type of first ['''3]) = ['''integer]. Then, integer!: [integer]. :-/
Perhaps then they would be LIT-BLOCK!s and that could be a novel use for those to help you know "oh, that's a type not a BLOCK!". @[integer], for instance. Because otherwise something like PARSE would see integer! and think it was a rule. (Or switch would think it was a branch...)
switch type of first ['''3] [
    @['''integer] [print "like this, and DEFAULT would still work"]
]
That seems to have some level of baseline usability; keeps evaluative SWITCH, permits shorthands if the brackets and @ bother you, (integer!: @[integer], integerQ!: @['integer])
This idea might be a winner.
Unfortunately this means you can't say switch type of first ['x] [quote word! [...]] under such a system, as the quote would go outide the "lit-block"... but maybe quoted @[word] could take only LIT-BLOCK!s and inject the quote inside it. switch type of first ['x] [quoted word! [...]] (?)
 
6:33 PM
And here we have a good example of where the immutable single-cell array optimization can help us. @[integer!] can come back locked, where it has a kind byte of LIT-BLOCK!, but a mirror byte of WORD!...no series node needed, no array dereference or walk needed to compare...
This also frees up @word, @(...) and @some/path for other meanings in PARSE, as only @[...] would have this meaning.
@[matrix 20x20] ... then @['matrix 20x20] for a quoted matrix, etc.
 
 
1 hour later…
8:03 PM
@BrianOtto might like to announce a bit more progress... with the first Rebol-enabled progressive web app :-)
183
A: What features do Progressive Web Apps have vs. native apps and vice-versa, on Android

Dan DascalescuTL;DR - As of Feb 2017, Progressive Web Apps are a sufficiently powerful platform that Twitter has moved all of their mobile web traffic to a React PWA. As of August 2016, Progressive Web Apps actually offer more hardware access than commonly thought. Here's a screenshot of whatwebcando.today fr...

 
8:18 PM
 
Ha, yes, that's correct :) I recently made some more progress on the progressive web app front, and you can install a libr3 app in Chrome now.

https://brianotto.github.io/rebol-pwa/web/

It's really basic, and all the Rebol code does is write the "Rebol PWA is installed" message, but it shows how an installed app would look like (i.e. address bar and tabs are removed). Also, the app can be launched from the App tab in Chrome or your Desktop.

So, things are looking promising there. Here is the repository if you want to follow along, though documentation is pretty sparse at the moment, sinc
2
 
@BrianOtto And as pointed out in your slides, this bypasses the need to ask the user to enable wasm threads / sharedarraybuffer, correct?
 
@HostileFork yup, that's right
 
w00t
@Edoc Uh oh. We don't want to get hackernews'd yet.
I might have to migrate that URL now.
Oh well. What's the worst that can happen (famous last words...)
 
8:40 PM
I doubt much traffic will come from that post
 
 
1 hour later…
9:55 PM
The type specification dialect could be an exception, so instead of saying foo: native [arg [@['word]]] ... you could still say foo: native [arg ['word!]] .... That wouldn't work if you say if (type of first ['x]) = 'word! or even = first ['word!]... so it might be a bit misleading and better to get people who don't like typing things out to define wordQ! or whatever, like I was saying.
One is supposed to take liberties with dialects to make life easier. :-/ I don't know. quoted-word! or q-word! is probably the better name and better approach (is Q an unambiguous enough abbreviation, like "lit"?)
If q-word!: quoted-word!: quoted word! works as I described, to have QUOTED slip the quote onto the first thing in the @[...], that seems solid.
 

« first day (3172 days earlier)      last day (608 days later) »