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12:00 PM
Women are more likely to be right-handed than men by about 4 percentage points. (source)
 
@Gimby but that is a ui library right?
 
@Gimby doesnt work with excel 2010
> jxl.read.biff.BiffException: Unable to recognize OLE stream
I only tried 9 libraries so far
 
biff
bib mir boffort meim bebiff bieber!
 
can you help me please I have 6 min to answer
 
12:06 PM
@Gimby Java/C# read excel 2010 (xlsm) file (with formulas) and edit some cells and read some cells (in under 2 seconds)
should be fine right?
9 out of 9 libraries cannot do this
 
6 mins is probably not enough. Should start sooner
 
(only one was actually able to do it, but took 16+ seconds)
 
Zoe
@Amal better hurry up then
 
@Amal I am not sure if asking other people to do your interview questions is the right approach to get a job
 
I don't even understand the question "there is a problem"
 
Zoe
12:11 PM
It's not that hard to make anyways
 
If you are not willing to help, it would prolly be better to leave it at that. You don't want to face a problem either and have everyone tell you that it is super easy to do. One comment regarding the homework dump is fine (at least for me) but anything after that that is not an attempt to help feels at least to me douchebaggy. Your choice tho, I just wanted to mention that.
 
I consider it equally douchebaggy to ask such questions
 
Zoe
^
 
Zoe
Hiya crab
 
12:24 PM
@Tavo Was sleepin' like a baby!
Eya Zoe!
 
Should my token rather contain the permissions directly or should it contain the user so I can look up the permissions with it?
Tokens are invalidated every 12 hours and will be generated freshly if the user logs out and in again (if that makes a difference).
 
I would say the first. This way you can alter permissions on the backend without touching the token
 
I would probably do the user
But that's just me
 
._______________________________________.
 
the user gains a login token
 
12:27 PM
I'm also not exactly sure about token-based login systems
 
that token works for a user and only for specific permissions that user has
 
So prioritize my opinion last
 
do both
 
Yay we're both right
\o/
 
no, im right
you are ballBreaker
 
12:28 PM
You are not right either then...
@Wietlol Those permissions can change (that is incredibly unlikely in the thingy I am working on but I wanted a general answer) though
 
Is this like, a web app or some shit
because if it is, I'm definitely wrong
 
Having the userid/name in there, would guarantee most recent permissions.
@ballBreaker A mobile app with a Java backend (which is what I am working on currently)
 
@geisterfurz007 yes
 
Ahhh
 
but the token allows "Wietlol" to "Send Messages"
it doesnt allow "GesterPunz" to "Send Messages"
 
12:30 PM
well yeah that depends then. You could either handle permissions on the front or the backend, and if it's the front then you'll want the user. If it's the backend then you'll want the permission in the token
 
and it doesnt allow "Wietlol" to "Delete Messages"
even though I am admin and I can delete messages anyway
those are operation tokens
login tokens on the other hand simply authenticate the user
it would allow <no-user> to "Login as Wietlol"
so basically
allow <user> to "Login" under the name of "Wietlol"
that would prolly be a better format
allow <user> to "Send Messages" under the name of "Wietlol"
 
Now currently I have it that if the user signs in to the app, the credentials are checked against our active directory and the database for the application. Based on a few bits in the database, permissions can be generated. eg if a user is a toaster in the database, they may read all information regarding bread (analogy master here). Now through another application (my app is support for a desktop program) these permissions are subject to change.
So a user that is a toaster might be assigned oven permissions as well allowing him to read all information about bakery (I really am awesome in c
Dunno if that makes sense.
Now putting the permissions in the token would prevent exactly that always fresh, right from the database permissions to be reflected in the app.
 
does the user ever see the auth token?
 
does the user ever move the auth token from one place to another?
 
12:40 PM
nope.
 
does the user ever use the auth token?
 
It will be saved in the app I am writing.
Nope. Not actively at least.
 
then just put the user in it
 
you need a token when you store it in a cookie for example
or when you give them an api key
or stuff
but internally, you dont really need that
 
12:42 PM
Tanks u Wietlol :)
 
no u
 
ur mom
 
Zoe
@ballBreaker Ur te ghost mommey?!
 
no u
Wait hang on.
Nope.
Nononononononono
No. NO!
NO!
 
Zoe
12:58 PM
XD
 
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 you don't really hate it though ;p
 
@Wietlol Damn :( Java + Excel is a really poor fit and has always been. But I take it that C# solutions have also been tried?
 
Are you shitting me? The methods for base64 conversion in JavaScript are called atob and btoa?
@Zoe I do.
 
@Gimby C# solutions are equally as horrible
need stuff installed
only support up to 2007
 
1:03 PM
Yeah the common denominator is Excel :/
 
weird shet api that simply makes no sense
BUTT
I did manage to make OpenXls puke out some error messages
> Function Not Supported: DATEDIF is not a supported function.
 
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 you shouldn't lie :p
 
which is prolly the reason why EpPlus doesnt work either
which are my two best guesses
now I need a way to replace all datedifs
> DDd =DATEDIF($A2;$B2;"d") =INT($B2-$A2)
DDm =DATEDIF($A2;$B2;"m") =12*(YEAR($B2)-YEAR($A2))+MONTH($B2)-MONTH($A2)-(DAY($B2)<DAY($A2))
DDy =DATEDIF($A2;$B2;"y") =YEAR($B2)-YEAR($A2)-IF(MONTH($A2)>MONTH($B2);1;IF(MONTH($A2)=MONTH($B2);DAY($A2)>DAY($B2);0))
wish me luck
or a recovery day
 
Damn
I don't have to fix it and it still physically hurts me
 
You know what, Wietlol... Looking at that, I wish you both :)
 
1:06 PM
Mandatory paid leave for the rest of the week
 
@wonderb0lt heya
 
Hallo.
 
hola
 
How's things going?
Long time no talk
Also sorry about that lol went through a bit of a slump when I was unemployed
didn't really reach out to many people
 
people's balls were given a rest
 
1:09 PM
Seriously... Who names Javascript shit? I would have had at least a tiny bit of understanding if atob was for ascii to base64 or binary but atob takes a base64 string and makes the unencoded thing from it.
 
No problem. You should've taken me up on that offer, my friend's sister was looking really hard for developers :P
 
@geisterfurz007 'b' being for 'binary' ?
 
@wonderb0lt Oh really? I thought I did! or was it far from me?
oh shit I just looked back
you asked for my resume and I just never sent it
 
well... at least there arent that many
 
doh
 
1:11 PM
Yup
 
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no.
None to be precise :D
 
friendly bin = /dev/null
 
I WANT TO KNOW THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH A HEADACHE
 
@wonderb0lt T_T Ah well I guess.. lol ended up at a solid company. Really digging the role so far.. time will tell though
 
@Gimby Whatever. It just makes no sense to name a method atob and btoa...
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You are not.
 
1:12 PM
@geisterfurz007 that much is true, it is hardly self-documenting
 
I want that you all have a bigger headache than me
:D
 
@ballBreaker Well, it all worked out in the end. That's what matters!
 
Yeah that's true :)
How's everything going with you?
 
1:42 PM
Good, I'm moving end of the year o/
 
=0 to where?
 
Vienna, Austria
 
Ooo that sounds nice!
New job moving you there?
 
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 the solution is simple. Don't use JS.
 
1:48 PM
Yeah bla, bla, noone cares Zoe.
 
Zoe
I do
:>
 
The solution is simple. We kill the Batman.
 
Zoe
Mmh, that can't be done. A batman would be fine though
 
@ballBreaker Same company, different office
 
Ahh very nice! You excited about the move?
 
2:38 PM
Yes, I'm only a bit anxious whether or not I find a flat
 
Yeah that makes sense, are you able to start looking now or do you need to wait a few months?
 
I am looking, sent out a few requests today
 
> java.util.EmptyStackException
sigh
mumbling stupid shit excel shit formulas shit libraries shit world shit life mumbling
 
Zoe
Sure, blame the libraries
 
ah, clears mind of stupid tasks
 
2:45 PM
@wonderb0lt good luck!! Hope you get something you like:)
 
Zoe
//sandbox @Wietlol
 
user8622974
Please use the sandbox @@Wietlol
 
I think not
 
Zoe
summons the @geist
 
3:07 PM
Is it kinda a weird that my default keystore is in the users directory on my local Windiws machine? If I move it what do I have to plan for?
 
The keystore is only used to sign the JAR, so I don't really see any issue with that
If you move it, all you need to do is change the signing command to point to the new location
Typically I would have my keystore located in a company repository that is regularly backed up.. but only really applies if it's for a corporate app / you have a repository
 
Hm?
Oh...
 
Ping me again please, will take care when I am home @Zoe
 
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 ok
 
3:26 PM
I see a key in one of the keystores. How do I find the key file(s)?
 
4:13 PM
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@Wietlol Come on... You know the rules and stuff and I am tired of cleaning up after you. If you continue, I will start kicking you. I have lost track of how many times I had to move stuff in a bin by now...
 
4:38 PM
Hello
How would I create an array without a definite size?
I want to allow someone to enter as many values into the array as they want.
 
4:57 PM
@JBis use a List instead
 
@JennaSloan Lists's don't require definite size?
 
@JBis yeah, you probably want to use an ArrayList or a Vector
 
@JennaSloan Ok. Will look into that. Thanks :)
 
5:35 PM
@JennaSloan Vector? Is it still 1997? xD
 
@Michael no, it's actually 1995
 
@JennaSloan Oh, my bad.
 
@Michael you're actually living inside a computer simulation called "The Matrix"
 
Ah, so that's why Trump is president.
 
~$matrix
 
5:41 PM
 
@Michael +1
 
Wait, so if Agent Smith took over the Matrix, then what happened to all the people that were connected to it? Did their mind just go blank or something?
 
Spoiler!! (Haven't watched in a while and forgot)
 
6:30 PM
404 Matrix Not Found
 
anybody interested in a high end powersupply not even 4 months old?
@geisterfurz007 what about you? :D
 
Zoe
Sure, as long as I can get it out of the matrix to power it to keep up the illu... ehm--- y-you didn't jus read that :*
 
@motaa How did you break it? :P
 
it's fully functional and 10 year warranty
I need a stronger one
it is this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3bygg48FsQ
in the 600watt edition
 
In that case, I am fine :D
 
6:40 PM
ye I need 750watt
at least
 
@JennaSloan He didn't entiiirreely take it over though
 
and I am going for this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIfBUAcLsoY
 
Also probably
 
WOW crabs is here
 
it's frustrating :D
how could I not foresee that 600 could not be enough :D
@geisterfurz007 have you seen the new RTX in action in BF5?
check this out from the Alpha-servers
 
6:59 PM
this week is going to be so fooked
so full of meetings
😅
 
@motaa I have not. I just recently came back from vacation, had a few problems with my RAM saturday evening (one 4GB stick and one mainboard slot seem to be fucked), but a friend of mine told me that they had to lower the settings because the 2080 couldn't run the game with 60fps straight?
 
Zoe
@ballBreaker aw :c
 
7:22 PM
@ballBreaker good start :D
 
I just booked 11 hours of meetings for this week lol with 10 different people
wooooo.... blows brains out
 
nice enjoy
 
haha
The meeting is with all the various department heads
So far all of them seem pretty awesome, which is pretty nuts
I'm going to die though
sooo much
meetings
so much talking and human interaction
so much information to absorb lol
 
lol
 
7:39 PM
Oh well
I'm just happy to be employed and making good money \o/
Better pay, salary, and benefits than my last job
 
nice
 
and the work seems like it'll be better too, and the people are really nice so far
so yeah, can't complain
 
What technologies are you working with?
 
7:51 PM
Java
\(-_\)
 
Zoe
XD
 
@geisterfurz007 Is...is that a dab?
 
8:07 PM
A poor attempt, yes. And yes, I am sorry and feel bad.
Bad backwards is dab
 
@geisterfurz007 And thus, a new era in humanity had begun.
 
8:54 PM
It's interesting to see all the open source libraries Chrome uses: chrome://credits/
 
9:50 PM
Hello everyone! Just a general question: First time applying for a job and they have asked that I send them some of my projects. I'm just wondering how much I should "guide" them through my project(s)? Should I include some points of interest ("you should definitely look at SomeFile.java, it's well documented and...")? Explain how they can run my code / tests? Not exactly sure how this works yet so some tips would be appreciated haha :)
 
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not sure, i think guiding them through would be greatly appreciated
but be careful not to do it to hide certain things
make sure that they also take a look at that
maybe explain why you have done things in an unreasonable way
 
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