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3:06 AM
@PetterFriberg Good! I was tired of working your list anyways :P
 
 
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6:40 AM
Meta is filled with blog questions, let's feature our work instead :P
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Q: Should we burninate the [multiple] tag?

Erik von Asmuth This tag is in phase 2 of the burnination process described here. The question and comments have been cleaned to allow for on-topic discussion on this tag; please keep it that way. If you want to discuss the process itself, post a new question on Meta or visit the SOCVR chat. I recently came...

I think we can add the CW answer after seeing the mood.
 
7:10 AM
@BhargavRao Ha! And I guess that takes careful moderation as well. I wish y'll wisdom with that ... not an easy task.
 
We just defer it to the staff, tbh. :p
As with the TTTAS
 
:D
 
Ones that need the Shog process, which Joncle is better aware of.
 
Someone calls IBM so they start sponsoring their tag ...
That can be burned indeed
 
7:26 AM
Both at 109, I might go with [value] first.
 
Twitter announcement: Stack Overflow loses Value
That at least fits the current trend
 
On Twitter, true.
 
8:25 AM
@Machavity aah it was you, sneaky, but tons of thanks Mac, I had a few weeks with great mess!
@rene baah pointless busy work if you ask me, it does not do any harm and mass-removal as for multiple will only do damage...
 
@PetterFriberg also true.
we'll see
 
yeah I have already tried, I knew the outcome, but now I will stand back for awhile, if the community thinks it fun to mess with these tags let'em do it...
The voting on these burnation requests does not work... people vote more on pointless tags that they understand they are pointless (not considering that pointless is just pointless), then complex tags as angular access, etc...
my evil plan is to one day submit 200 meta request all with point less tags :D
just fill the whole goddarn meta with this:
multiple× 203
15 asked this week, 77 this month
multiple-columns× 3298
when text is split into a number of parallel text columns, rather than one column of text. For CSS Multicolumn layout, use the [css-multicolumn-layout] tag.
6 asked today, 21 this week
multiple-inheritance× 1913
A feature of some object-oriented computer programming languages in which a class can inherit behaviors and features from more than one superclass or base class.
11 asked this week, 27 this month
multiple-instances× 821
then this
value× 2926
A numerical quantity assigned to a variable or a field.
18 asked this week, 83 this month
return-value× 3217
the result of evaluation of a return statement.
5 asked this week, 25 this month
key-value× 1704
a set of two linked data items: a key which uniquely identifies some item of data, and the value, which is either the data that is identified or a pointer to the location of that d…
6 asked this week, 25 this month
default-value× 1448
A default, in computer science, refers to a setting or value automatically assigned to a software application, computer program or device, outsi
and why not also these
user-stories× 153
is a way of software requirements documentation focused on user-centered design
8 asked this year
edit
usersettings× 126
refers to the custom settings put in place on an application by the user.
12 asked this year
multiple-users× 107
6 asked this month, 23 this year
facebook-test-users× 67
a special Facebook account, invisible to real accounts, which can be created within an app for the purpose of manual or automated testing of that app's Facebook integration.
9 asked this year
That should keep'em busy for some years!
 
To me more serious I'm not sure why we are doing these tags [css-multicolumn-layout], it seems that we have missed the point that one can add more then one tag to question...
how the frick should a new user know that they should use that tag????
is not [css] [multiple-columns] [layout] easier and have same result??
 
8:41 AM
@PetterFriberg yes, very much yes
 
I need Cody back, so he can post a nice meta on this, he is my last hope in this lost tag battle...
 
@PetterFriberg we really need to start down voting those requests and certainly ask: if the burn goes on are you willing to do the work.
 
I'm not sure about the are you willing part (they will all say sure), instead what I'm sure about is that community should concentrate on important stuff, confusion etc and also stop trying to create , then start removing .... for sure it's better to clean up the of all it's questions
 
8:53 AM
:D
 
 
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10:02 AM
@rene @Petter still there?
From your worksheet, can you sort the top 5 ones with the least number of questions on site, and link them here?
Thanks!
 
@BhargavRao I'm here but not sure what you would like "The ones that we recommend burnation, clean-up" with highest upvotes... anyway I will defer to rene since I don't want to mess with that worksheet
 
Those could all be [status-declined], I guess.
 
in excel you will find a lot
ooh now I found this answer from Shog9 nice meta.stackoverflow.com/a/293678/5292302
> Don't try to make the site uglier by pushing for some horrible name spacing scheme when it isn't necessary.
 
10:20 AM
'burnination'? What a preposterous word, especially when riding along "tag removal'! Does it make the speaker sound like the learned? It is not even more compact (4 syllables) than the right form of expression. — Brice Coustillas 35 mins ago
@BhargavRao eeww I just tried to create a filter and do an order by, basically breaking the whole sheet. Maybe this needs @Makyen to look at or someone else with more confidence in what they are doing. Do know that the questions on site is hand checked and I often combined the counts of the tags involved.
 
8 meta posts out of the pending list now.
 
10:38 AM
@BhargavRao I'm on it, hold on
 
Take your time.
 
apart from this meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/266975/…, I would decline'em all :D
That one is actually status-completed :D
 
@BhargavRao decline: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
 
10:55 AM
Left 7th, that's a messup
 
@BhargavRao delete post (LQ duplicate): 1
@BhargavRao complete: 1, 2
strangely enough I can't find this one in the sheet: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/362539/…
 
Left 2, as I disagree that the tag should have been burninated.
[status-sigh-can't-help]
 
@BhargavRao we are left with this which has this comment in the sheet -3Q, +2A Comments that the # questions makes it too hard to burninate. Consider for automated disambiguation?
 
So many of the low hanging fruit are cleared.
I think we can go through the next batch from 0 to 3 votes.
 
I would rather have a smoother process then me having to hand pick the posts from the sheet :/
 
11:05 AM
I'm a bit of an outsider to the sheet mechanism (you need Joncle for that).
I'm just a "exam got over today, I'm free now, I stay awake the whole night and do some service" kinda guy :-(
What is this obsession over burninating tags recently? Do you people really not have anything more productive to do? How are these tags causing a problem?Cody Gray ♦ Jun 18 '14 at 22:18
Hehe, ironic, given that he rewrote the burnination answer a few years later.
 
@BhargavRao Will this work for you: i.stack.imgur.com/VjH4U.png ?
 
@BhargavRao OK, I can alter that view for you when you need different criteria. You could set the investigation step (column O) to Complete so you keep track of which ones you handled without us losing information.
 
11:20 AM
Ok, I'll fix them tomorrow?
 
Sure
 
I'll stop now. The main page seems flooded with my edits. :(
 
Mod goes rogue: MSO scattered in pieces
 
I'm still up, though. I'll probably go sleep now.3 hrs of downtime.
 
@BhargavRao take your rest, we don't want to burn you ;)
 
11:25 AM
Nopes, I don't get burned, I burn tags :p
 
:D and appreciated
 
I'm free today, else I'd not have had time for this. From tomorrow, the routine work starts again. :\
 
11:37 AM
@rene edited the action column in the sheet. Now I'll go to bed. \o
 
 
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12:57 PM
Are we keeping the list up with the ones being tagged complete?
 
 
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2:47 PM
@Machavity Uh? Say again?
 
3:21 PM
@rene Is Bhargav tagging some complete and declined?
 
@Machavity yes
we need to finish the stuff from TylerH
 
@rene Are we noting which ones in the worksheet?
 
@Machavity I asked for now to put them on completed in Investiagtion step (column O), so any rows that have a next step: mark Complete/Declined (columns T) are theirs.
Do you want a more explicit way of noting?
 
I think we're talking about two different things. I know Tyler's list isn't done (I did a few last night). But if Bhargav is updating ones we've already done, shouldn't we note them?
 
@Machavity yes
let me make it explicit because this leads to confusion
 
3:34 PM
So we'll note it, but in a new column?
 
Yeah, Where would the new column go?
before the comments?
between Q and T ?
 
Yeah, before comments makes the most sense. Maybe call it "Action taken"
 
are you making the change or did I just screw the sheet?
 
Gah. I uncollapsed R and S by accident
I think i fixed that. Sorry
 
I almost had a heart attack, but further no harm done ;)
Ok extra column is in
 
3:52 PM
Looks good
I would add YC for Yvette since we did ask her at one point
 
yeah, we don't want to leave anyone out ...
 
I think that's it then. We finish the Tyler set and hopefully Pass #1 will be a solid success
 
4:13 PM
Okay, I've edited the action taken by BR into the sheet
@Machavity yeah, let's finish that
47 to go on that one
 
 
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6:50 PM
This is a bit a-typical: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/348382/… thougts?
 
7:26 PM
Probably should be renamed to [java-reflections]
Actually, that might get confused with reflection classes in general. Maybe [java-reflections-meta]
 
7:46 PM
@BhargavRao I think is about as clean as its going to get. Can nuke the closed ones (wasn't a lot of closure)
 
Cool, how many are there?
@BhargavRao Looks like the idea backfired.
 
@BhargavRao 70 closed. The rest were coding questions that looked passable (had MCVE at any rate)
 
Cool. Good that we didn't nuke the tag.
 
@Machavity not thrilled ...
 
@rene But that's what I feel. Apparently that's important now
 
8:00 PM
don't get me started
 
There's not a good way to tag that one. [reflections] is going to get confused with [reflection]
And Java has a reflection class IIRC
 
okay, let's leave it, nobody cared
 
Works for me. Incorrect < ambiguous in my book
 
 
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9:03 PM
@TylerH I've reached where you ended, only 4 left to do but those seem to be somewhere in what you maybe already saw but didn't finalize so I'm not touching those
@JonClements @BhargavRao the Pass#1 Worksheet is done give or take 4 from TylerH. I've added an extra column, Action Taken by, that should be used to indicate if you have handled the row. Feel free to Create extra filters (I have one called Decline 0-3 that is the batch BR started on). Worth noting that not always the user that is mentioned in assigned actually handled it.
4
@YvetteColomb please see ^
 
9:23 PM
decline all the thingzzzz
 
9:35 PM
@rene can unpin the game-dev cleanup in SOCVR. I think interest has waned
 
I'm back to busy from today :(
 
Vacation from modding?
 
I can prolly do it next Thursday, if they don't give me work.
I'm on a vacation since January 1st :p
 
Laid off? Or just told your boss what you thought of him? ;)
 
BR has no boss....
 
9:43 PM
Err. I said I was on mod vacation since January 1st.
 
still no boss to ask ;)
@rene for sure not [java-reflections] or something similar, either just leave it if it seems 1/2 dead a rename suggestion could be [ronmamo-reflections] if user likes to add [java] so be it.
yeah [ronmamo-reflections] seems ok, it's both the name of repo and the email name of the developer ronmamo@...., do not that since java7-8 it's probably much less used then previous.
 
10:02 PM
@PetterFriberg Negative on [java-reflections]. Will be confused with questions about the Java reflection class
 
@Machavity yeah I agree absolutely not that's why I propose [ronmamo-reflections]
 
@PetterFriberg That would work
 
it's one of those darn 2 words tags but in this case I think it's the best thing to identify the exact framework
 

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