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1:00 PM
Yeha i agree, i try to keep the comment count at bare minimum.
I'd spend 2 extra minutes trying to come up with a varname that will "play well".
 
I find the comment blocks on top of classes helpful, with some notes about intended usage, maybe a quick example -- it saves a lot of time and human parsing trying to figure out what the writer of the class intended
 
well
when a class is called FrontTurret inheriting from Turret, you don't need a comment saying it's a turret :P
 
why would you even need a FrontTurret class?
 
it's an example, oh shees ...
 
@DeadMG Right, I mean intended interface points between the base and the children and such
 
1:02 PM
@ScarletAmaranth FrontTurret is the name of my entity factory, duh
 
@Collin I actually could not find one single use for virtual functions in my original design, except for abstracting over the operating system.
 
harr harr, design patternz for eeeeverything
 
sometimes that's not entirely clear from the header, and I don't want to go digging around source to find an example of what the class author had intended (and in all honesty, probably get it wrong anyway)
 
singleton everything!
 
Having not seen it, I wouldn't know, but I'd imagine you'd have a base unit class with some basic info about it, shield status, hitpoints, and a "take hit" sort of function, which might call a protected virtual to apply unit specific effects?
 
1:04 PM
nope
there's no reason for each unit to have a specific effect when hit
take damage from health, if less than zero, explode
 
Well, if you read a header and you don't know what it's intended to do, then the header creator should have designed it better.
 
and even if I did, I'd probably make it a std::function anyway since units are user-creatable
 
Documentation is now here. This is to avoid the unnecessary indirection from the Google document which is now void.
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@DeadMG Ah, I was imagining maybe a loss of abilities from hits, so maybe a fighter is slower when it's been damaged, or a capital ship loses some of it's defences
 
there's no call for that in the current design
and if I did, it would be component-based, not unit-type based
 
1:09 PM
@ScarletAmaranth oh god yes! I'd rather type long function names then have to read comments
 
@DomagojPandža Arrrg. A void pointer must not be indirected
 
@thecoshman Dat sarcasm :) ?
 
Component as in pieces of the ship or mixing in classes?
 
Avoiding a void!
 
@ScarletAmaranth nope, I honestly would rather write a long function name then have to read comments to work out wtf is going on
 
1:12 PM
@thecoshman Good, ye, I prefer that very much too.
@thecoshman Not to mention that ctrl + space usually finishes my thoughts :P
 
cpyPTDS(...)
PLX no this.
 
oh, I assume we want networked multi-player yes.
I'm ok with using abbreviations, like TLD for Top Level Domain, but this is the sort of thing that I think should have a comment that you do actually mean that
 
Also, try to avoid magic numbers in "normal code". (I mean, when you're doing graphics you're obviously gonna have some magic numbers in there.)
By that I mean, no : foo(41) but foo(MaxDamage) or something
 
@ScarletAmaranth Everybody know the maximum damagoj is 42
 
there is no need for 'magic value' use a variable to give it meaning
 
1:17 PM
Sup.
 
soup
 
I am not certain whether there will be much self-explaining going around in the renderer, especially shader code which requires an understanding of the techniques applied which are not obvious (at first) to the naked eye. I could formulate a side documentation of many of the implemented techniques explaining the motivation, real physical interaction math and the approximated model suitable and employed ingame.
 
yeah, you have draw the line some where, this is not a tutorial for people to learn from.
 
there IS need for magic value use a var to give it meaning :)
 
Though as we are all in this for the experience, I think it would be good if people were willing to help explain why certain things are done for others to learn from
 
1:20 PM
(not in the renderer, obviously)
Oh, ye, my code will be the suckiest anyway, I have very little "real" experience.
 
I fail at Buildbot config so much.
 
on an unrelated note @cat is springbok workable for windows?
 
Somewhat.
I think events weren't working.
 
because no one seems to be proposing an alternative
 
hahahahah
 
1:28 PM
I have an amazing capacity to forget who my web hosts are.
 
@DomagojPandža I have an amazing capacity to start web sites and then get bored with them
 
@DomagojPandža I have web history for that. kyrostat.{com,net,eu,nl,be} are all available. I might just click the 'buy now' buton :)
 
@sehe Sabotage! :)
 
@thecoshman I have an amazing capacity to start web sites and then get bored with them
FTFY
 
1:30 PM
@sehe well played sir, well palyed
 
@ScarletAmaranth Naw. I would be doing you all a favour
 
I have an amazing capacity to be unable to write html :D
@sehe Your skepticism is amusing :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth HTML has an amazing capacity to hold crap
 
I'm actually quite good at web development, it's trivial in comparison to the rest of our work.
 
@ScarletAmaranth I can quote about 20 messages of yours that are far more skeptic than any one of mine (on the subject of Kyrostat)
 
1:31 PM
And I actually find myself writing PHP more than I'd like to admit.
 
HTML sucks donkey cock
 
@sehe I have never said I'm not skeptic either :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth So... who's sabotaging :)
 
it really will be amazing if something close to game comes out of this :P
 
@sehe I would certainly do nothing that would jeopardize the project, which could be the point of snatching the webname, though :)
 
1:40 PM
Retarded host panel is retarded.
Alright, bitches. Are you absolutely sure that Kyrostat is the name?
 
Retarded tautologies are retarded
 
I have no idea, it's basically a Cryostat with a typo (since every name needs a typo or whatever the quote was :D). Better ask when there's "everyone" here so we can be 100% sure ?
 
@DomagojPandža as a team name at the very least. The game might get a new one
 
We can change the name without changing the domain.
Besides, it's a name. Who cares.
 
Well, it would be nice to develop a HQ offshore SO. I doubt they'll tolerate us for much longer.
so, www.kyrostat.com?
 
1:44 PM
like I said, if we get a kryostat.* domain, it can server as a team name
 
More original than "Space RTS 10000".
@DomagojPandža Yes.
 
You mean: Modern Spacewar 2000 ?
 
Well, done when the cunts actually validate the order.
 
1:45 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Getting a bit nervy for suggesting the typo?
 
@sehe It was not me suggesting the typo :) (Surprising since I usually troll the mostest :))
 
In the year 252525, the spacewar still have not arrived.
 
back
 
Although, if the name was up to me, it would be " The Bacon ".
 
Space Bacon X 3000.
 
1:49 PM
At which point DeadMG would find me and slap me rather hard :D
 
@ScarletAmaranth that's why it's not up to you :P
 
in Lounge<C++>, 23 hours ago, by Radek Slupik
Kyrostat
 
Instant reddit front page.
 
@CatPlusPlus "ZOMG BACON GAME"
 
15 hours ago, by Collin
They're already getting sorted to my kyrostat label
@ScarletAmaranth Or Collin? ^
 
1:52 PM
@sehe Trolls do be trollin' :)
 
Oh yeah, it would be so much more work to change that label name than hunt down Scarlet and slap him :-P
 
BTW, I can host the website, it'd be easier to plug buildbot under subdomain, too.
 
especially considering (at least if the use of 'sodding' is an indication) he lives across an ocean from me
 
@CatPlusPlus I added the link into post -> services, dere anything else that needs to be done ?
 
1:57 PM
@Collin Get on mumble someday. Marvel at Sir Dead "Puppy" MG's impressively sexy accent
 
9 messages moved to Lounge<C++>
 
Hello guises.
Anything interesting happened while I was busy drinking my own weight in beer?
 
Not really, @DomagojPandža got us a webpage, thanks @DomagojPandža btw ;)
 
what's address?
 
www.kyrostat.com
Nevermind the test website
 
2:05 PM
There's a blob that loves Firefox.
 
by the way, I have another question
who the hell is Neil?
was kinda a dick earlier, and I'm like, "Who even are you? I pay money for you to be on this team?"
 
I have no idea, I'm just need something to drink, fast.
 
May I suggest beer?
 
I don't like the taste of it :(
 
Me neither, good :P
Beer is sour and all that, meh.
 
2:09 PM
Then it means you never had good beer.
 
Good beer is an oxymoron.
 
I "can" drink Pilsner Urquell, but not a fan either.
 
Alright, people, I'll get a web architecture going around in about 24 hours or so, secure access and provide you all with login data. I think it isn't really a good idea to linger way too much on a public chat, way too much sensitive information. And I honestly don't know how long we'll be welcome to keep our little parade here.
 
PARADE OF PARADING, IN WHICH WE PARADE THINGS, LIKE A PARADING THING
 
Calm down.
 
2:14 PM
Well, it's a valid chatroom that's still publicly observable (a gallery if you so desire), so I don't think we would get kicked out of here or something along such lines.
 
this is SO, you can never tell whats gonna happen
 
Is there a way to archive a chatroom's discussion?
 
this is SO, you can never tell whats gonna happen
 
Because we might want to backup all this.
 
@EtiennedeMartel no, I don't think so
if we want to do that, we should open an IRC channel or something where we have more control
everything here is in SO's hands
 
2:19 PM
@EtiennedeMartel It is always archived, afaik.
but that might be for rooms which are not closed due to inactivity
 
it's all pubic
I mean public
 
The tubes have ears.
 
I have an exam to go to but I really can't be bothered
 
just go
don't bitch about it, just go
 
that's the kind of thinking that led to the Dark Ages
 
2:22 PM
but you not going to the exam leads to your bitching on here
 
No, that's the kind of thinking that might make you pass.
 
@DeadMG where you in the Dark Ages?
 
@TonyTheLion that it is
@DomagojPandža what on eath is that pointing to at the moment?
@DomagojPandža drop me an email with how much you dropped and what on
 
It's a stub file, don't worry.
@thecoshman There, now it is a proper content pending page.
 
2:37 PM
I do feel like we need IRC, it's just not a proper project with out IRC
 
I agree
Everyone who wants an IRC channel specific for this project, star this message!
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let's do it by vote, shall we?
 
using the stars actually seems like a good system to use for us voting on stuff
 
One cat at a time
 
@EtiennedeMartel huh?
 
2:42 PM
#kyrostat @ freenode.
 
@thecoshman The slogan on the stub page reads "Determined to show the world how it's done. One cat a time."
 
@CatPlusPlus have you set that up, or suggesting it?
@EtiennedeMartel oh that :P
 
"Setting that up" is /join #kyrostat, so yes, I have set that up. :P
 
oh good god
 
There's web interface, if you don't have a client: webchat.freenode.net
 
2:44 PM
I've only just noticed it's kYRostat, not kRYostat
 
We'll set a password or invite list when everyone gets there.
 
user784668
Why Freenode and not OFTC?
 
@thecoshman It happens to the best of us.
 
Because I'm already connected to Freenode.
 
¬_¬ we need to make the channel private, fast
 
2:50 PM
We can kick people on IRC, no need to hurry.
 
@CatPlusPlus but I'm lazy, some one else will have to do it :P
 
Note: if you use a nick we don't recognise, we'll kick you.
 
Kyrostat.com means shit is getting serious. 800 GB of pure traffic, 24 GB of storage, "unlimited" sexy emails @kyrostat.com and many databases. Ours for the taking.
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@DomagojPandža well done sir!
 
@DomagojPandža There's a typo on the first post: it's "kyrostat", not "kryostat".
 
2:56 PM
A typo of a typo, that's new one. Fixed. :Đ
 
@DomagojPandža Impressive, sir. Why that almost makes us professional, doesn't it?
Aww crap, I just realized I'm going to have to move the documentation yet again
 
Time to write IRC bot. I haven't written an IRC bot in a while.
 
@CatPlusPlus to do what?
 
Logging.
 
I'm on IRC channel, but no one is there it seems
 
2:59 PM
we going to wait for the logging before we start using IRC?
 
Well, I don't know why Buildbot doesn't want to work, and I'm bored, so.
 
what's wrong with this chatroom?
 
Well, while we are public, we're not really Stackoverflow guideline friendly.
We're basically running a closed source private errand on SO.
 
indeed
@DomagojPandža which they probably will get annoyed about in a while
it's only a matter of time
I would say
 
Oh, do you really think they'd get annoyed for something like that?
We can't be using up a lot of resources
 
3:01 PM
they've got annoyed for less
 
We need to take care of some IRC goodness and I'll take the next day or two conjuring a sexy online HQ for us to act like real professionals, dropping bacon bombs every three seconds in a uniform environment.
 
Keep the wiki updated for news updates
 
To those who disprove of our clearly closed , fear not, we are moving our selves along. Please be patient whilst we get our selves set.
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oh yeah, I'm an op :D
 
Even if this entire projects fails, I'll consider my investment into the website domain like a few-day Developer Hobbyland ticket. It's been fun to be a part of this. Hopefully, we'll make it go.
Besides bacon overdose, there's no reason for it to fail, really.
 
now come over to the IRC channel!
 
3:07 PM
@DomagojPandža sure tis a bit of crack
y'all get your butts onto IRC now! #kyrostat @ freenode.com to help you out, have a web based client
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@DomagojPandža That's a reasonable risk.
 
@thecoshman Learn how to type if you're gonna get things starred / pinned
 
@thecoshman Typo.
Also include network.
 
@thecoshman What to type into the sodding web based client again :D ?
 
@CatPlusPlus sorted?
 
3:10 PM
@thecoshman You GOT to be kidding. MOAR TYPOES
 
@thecoshman #kyrostat, not #kyostat.
 
...
 
fucking hell. did I get it all?
or does someone need to do it properly?
 
It's okay now.
Third time the charm.
 
some need does...
 
3:18 PM
just the nickname you want and the channel name
 
Okay, I'm setting up a password on the channel, it'll be on the wiki.
 
4:18 PM
Why are we moving to an IRC chan?
 
because privacy
 
Nvm, I see the dicussions above.
Nice website, whoever cooked that up.
 
 
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5:40 PM
back
 
We're on IRC now.
 
I don't have an IRC client
 
3 hours ago, by thecoshman
y'all get your butts onto IRC now! #kyrostat @ freenode.com to help you out, have a web based client
 
@CatPlusPlus #kyrostat Cannot join channel (+k) - bad key :( Wtf ?
 
/join #kyrostat key
 
6:22 PM
here @StackedCrooked
is it smart to reuse a stringstream?
 
6:46 PM
I don't like to reuse variables.
 
for me, it depends on where i declared the var :P
for vars that I declare right as I use them, no reuse
for vars that I declare as soon as a function begins, np with reusing
 
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