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12:09 AM
@theGtknerd This room will get frozen if it doesn't get used,
 
 
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3:57 AM
@Simon Yep, this room is for anyone. And any language that can be used with Gtk. Topics would be Gtk widgets and how to use them.
 
 
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7:06 AM
Thanks very much. I might come here occasionally then.
 
 
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11:53 AM
@Simon I don't check it every day, so be sure to mention my name.
 
 
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1:35 PM
room topic changed to gtk+: A GUI library popular on Linux/Gnome (no tags)
 
2:26 PM
@theGtknerd OK then I am just used to not pinging because they don't like it in the Python room but i am quite happy to do so
 
2:41 PM
@Simon Obviously you use Python and Gtk. What do you use it for, if I may ask? I use Python and Gtk in my accounting system. The open source accounting software is for my small business. I also created two other projects to make administrating my day to day business life a bit easier.
By the way, thanks for the heads up that this room would have been closed if not used. I created it on a whim, hoping to find some more people that like Gtk. In reality, I has forgotten all about it until you pinged me.
 
3:01 PM
Hi @theGtknerd, it's nice :) can be useful to exchange ideas and comment posts
Maybe add it in the tag description
 
@JoséFonte How would I do that? Alternatively, would you like to be a room administrator also?
 
ok, for me it's no problem, not sure i'll remember to come here always. Must check if there's a way to added to the SO right pane. To edit the tag, maybe add a link to it, let me check
 
I've added in the GTK tag (generic one) and must be peer reviewed
to be accepted
 
Thanks
 
3:40 PM
@theGtknerd XD Nothing quite as good. I actually started learning GTK3 for C and am still in the process of doing so therefore my knowledge is a little basic. I tried to install GTK for Python but failed. How did you do it may I ask (I tried pip install)?
I actually fell in love with GTK. It's so nice to look at but not being able to get it for Python was a real shame.
It meant I can't use it much since my C knowledge is limited.
If I could get it working on Python 3 Wow the potential.
 
 
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5:40 PM
@Simon I use Linux Mint as my OS, so Gtk3 and Python3 are ready to go. Looking at your profile makes me think you are using Windows. Have you looked at this page already? Or here?
 
5:51 PM
@theGtknerd gtk tag edited: stackoverflow.com/tags/gtk/info
 
Nice!
 
 
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8:23 PM
@theGtknerd. You are quite correct. I'm mainly a Windows user but I also do Ubuntu occasionally (quite new to that too) I will take a good look at those links later. Thank you. Not on my PC at the moment.
 
8:35 PM
May I ask how you guessed I was on Windows?
 
9:17 PM
room topic changed to Gtk+: A GUI library popular on Linux/Gnome [gtk] [gtk3]
 
9:30 PM
That's better.
 
10:12 PM
@Simon That was easy, your recent questions had stuff like MSYS2, Microsoft Edge, and Win32GUI.
 
@theGtknerd Oh. How daft of me. As you can see I'm still on basics with GTK
Oh and I use Python 3 so it does not seem to be of much help.
 
@Simon Could you (or did you) create a post explaining what you did so far, and what your problem was? That way other people can find a solution also when struggling with Python3 and Gtk3 on Windows.
 
@theGtknerd Problem: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43529675/install-pygtk-for-python-3-6-1-on-windows-10

Answers: Nothing helpful!
Someone already had the problem before me.
 
10:35 PM
Were you running pip install pygtk or pip install pygobject ?
 
I first tried pip install pygtk then pip install pygobject when it told me to do so and it said a version cannot be found
 
pip install gi ?
 
Just let me try it.
Yep that worked.
 
Try pip install pygobject again.
 
Ok just one sec.
Didn't work:
`C:\Users\Simon>pip install pygobject
Collecting pygobject
  Using cached PyGObject-3.27.1.tar.gz
Collecting pycairo>=1.11.1 (from pygobject)
  Using cached pycairo-1.15.4.tar.gz
Installing collected packages: pycairo, pygobject
  Running setup.py install for pycairo ... error
    Complete output from command c:\users\Simon\appdata\local\programs\python\python36-32\python.exe -u -c "import setuptools, tokenize;__file__='C:\\Users\\Simon\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\pip-build-16v95813\\pycairo\\setup.py';f=getattr(tokenize, 'open', open)(__file__);code=f.read().replace('\r\n', '\n');f
 
10:48 PM
Try pip install pycairo
 
One more second
C:\Users\Simon>pip install pygobject
Collecting pygobject
  Using cached PyGObject-3.27.1.tar.gz
Collecting pycairo>=1.11.1 (from pygobject)
  Using cached pycairo-1.15.4.tar.gz
Installing collected packages: pycairo, pygobject
  Running setup.py install for pycairo ... error
    Complete output from command c:\users\Simon\appdata\local\programs\python\python36-32\python.exe -u -c "import setuptools, tokenize;__file__='C:\\Users\\Simon\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\pip-build-16v95813\\pycairo\\setup.py';f=getattr(tokenize, 'open', open)(__file__);code=f.read().replace('\r\n', '\n');f.close();exec(
Oh I have just tried pip install cairo it failed.
 
Try pip install cairocffi
 
Just let me try it (Thanks I really appreciate this it would be fantastic to get GTK working on Python too)
 
I'm guessing, really. But I have been around Gtk for a bit, so it's an educated guess. I would like to get it working, just to prove it can be done. ;-)
 
That would be super! It does not seem to be working. Just wait a little longer I'll give you the error
 
11:01 PM
How about this page? I got it from the page on SO you linked earlier. If you have tried it, just let me know.
 
Just give me a little longer while I look at it and copy the error message.
It is for Python 3.4 I thought. Mine is 3.6
 
Does it refuse to install? I don't think there is a huge difference between 3.4 and 3.6. I may be wrong on that.
 
Oh OK I'll try it then. I just took it for granted it wouldn't work but I may be wrong.
Here is the error traceback: dpaste.com/1Z12Z2X
25% of the way through
2min left it guesses.
 
I was wrong. Also found this.
 
So I'm going to need 3.5 then?
 
11:10 PM
That is what I would try. But I was wrong one time :(
 
So what do you guess I should do, use MSYS?
 
Weren't you using MSYS2? I just figured you had MSYS2 already installed for Gtk and C. Reminder to self > never assume anything.
 
true
 
Yes I do have MSYS2 and it's a pain to use. I was wondering if there is an alternative.
Like: GTK
Dislike: MSYS
 
The alternative is that other all in one installer that doesn't work.
 
11:16 PM
MSYS it is then more installing.
Just running it.
It seems to be step 4: gtk.org/download/windows.php
 
Do you have Python3.5 installed?
 
3.6.3
It'll be worth it if I can use GTK.
 
Remember, the SO link said 3.5.
 
So it'll have to be 3.5 but I'm following the instructions given on the GTK homepage (see above) at the moment.
 
See the first comment by cdarke at this page.
It's the same page I linked earlier.
 
11:28 PM
YAY I have it. GTK is working.
Just quickly test it ensure there is no trouble and I'm away.
 
It's almost unbelievable.
 
/claps :D
 
I haven't tested a script yet but from gi.repositries import gtk works!
 
Good news!
 
Just run it and make sure. Thanks so much. I really, really appreciate this. That's made my week.
YES!
I'm a fast learner so don't be surprised if you find I'm a pro in a few months.
Then the fun can really start.
 

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