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12:49 AM
farts
 
1:06 AM
morn
 
1:29 AM
sniffles
 
1:52 AM
o/
 
\o
 
 
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4:00 AM
"You defeated me But you won't defeat me again Because you have grown all you can grow.... but I am still growing (about Mount Everest)." -Edmund Hillary (source)
 
 
2 hours later…
6:15 AM
G'day =-=
 
coughs
 
7:05 AM
morning
question: I have a method myMethod() throws IOException... can I still try/catch a RemoteException which is a subclass of IOException?
 
Lemme check ^^
 
@geisterfurz007 I already did :D
seems to work if I throw one explicitly
 
Yep.
As long as you catch the subclass exception first and then the IOException in a seperate catch block you should be able to catch it seperately
 
7:23 AM
 
I was thinking that if I say in the method header that it is possible that it can be thrown I would not be ablem to catch it in try catch :D
should have read the docs more thorougly :F
 
 
4 hours later…
11:04 AM
Hello,
when programs use other people's jar files and these jar files have logging (log4j) set on them, what settings do they respect?
 
coughs
 
11:38 AM
hello
 
12:05 PM
Meow!
 
Zoe
woof woof
 
moooooo
/insanecow
 
 
2 hours later…
1:50 PM
morn
@Wietlol could you amuse me with your crazy thoughts? :d
/fatcat
 
/help
 
Commands=====================
/8ball     Simulates a magic 8-ball.
/about     Displays information about this bot.
/afk       Allows users to mark themselves as "away".
/cat       Displays a random cat picture. :3
/define    Displays word definitions from the dictionary.
/fatcat    Displays a random fat cat.
/groot     I am Groot.
/help      Displays this help message.
/http      Displays information about HTTP status codes and methods.
/javadoc   Displays class documentation from the Javadocs.
 
/fatcat
 
1:53 PM
k enough :)
k one last one
/fatcat
 
/fatcat list
 
> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b2/04/d5/b204d5f93969173c81e7871eā€Œā€‹1052177c.gif
> https://media.giphy.com/media/TlK63EzF3qzwyZeAK6Q/giphy.gif
> https://i.imgur.com/MxfQws7.gif
> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xo3hCu3hmYE/hqdefault.jpg
> https://i.stack.imgur.com/IFEct.jpg
> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2m41lE3uD1r6663zo1_250.gif
> https://media.giphy.com/media/UAmFmzHqoknw4/giphy.gif
 
There you go. xD
 
ah thanks @Michael
currently sitting in a class
task today: install docker
 
2:02 PM
Dang it @motaa!! Don't be one of "those" students!!
Turn off your laptop and pay attention. :P
 
@Michael how should I turn it off and work with docker? :)
plus I am working with docker at home so I don't need an introduction on it
 
@Michael Wait... Do you want to say there are other types of students? :O
 
Hello guys
 
morning @SpringLearner
 
G'day :)
 
2:09 PM
@motaa I was going thorugh your last messages here and found docker. As I have not heard what it is about so I checked online
but still not clear why should its used
@motaa Its evening here, good morning to you
 
It's always morning here :D
 
@SpringLearner in this channel it is always morning :P
@SpringLearner well think of docker being an emulator
 
@geisterfurz007 They are a dying breed. xD
 
if you use windows, and want to do stuff on linux... you don't have to install linux but you could use cygwin
 
Hehe indeed. I think there are probably... 5-10 in our class :D
 
2:11 PM
@motaa We just create war and deploy in tomcat irrespective of the enviroment.
so how docker is helpful
 
> create war
Could not resist, sorry.
 
@SpringLearner you can quickly test stuff without the process of deploying much
 
@geisterfurz007 web archive resource(war)
@motaa does docker create .war file or how would I deploy it in tomcat?
 
Someone should create a new Java web framework that uses .love files just so they can say "Make love not war".
5
 
I know :D I could not leave the quote uncommented though :D
@Michael That is ingenious!
 
2:15 PM
xD
 
lol michael
 
I mean League of Legends named their replay files .rofl as well so everything is possible :D
obviously for "Replay OF League"... No other meanings of course :P
 
@Michael that is @Wietlol level :D
 
Dang it @motaa!! Go back to class!
 
haha :D
cant do anything on this workstation
 
2:23 PM
Then turn it off!!
 
lol
 
@geisterfurz007 that makes it roll and not rofl
 
the errormessage
 
@ColdFire R eplay OF L eague
Clearly spelling roll there :>
 
2:26 PM
@motaa Then fix it!!
Did your neighbor get that error?
 
@Michael no admin rights
no it works at his station
 
Gotta leave :) Cya o/
 
ah I will leave and get a beer
 
Cheers :)
 
imagine you get into office and can't work... :D
 
2:31 PM
@geisterfurz007 meh :/
 
@motaa Stop crying and fix it.
 
3:11 PM
hey@Michael
 
anyone here know of any technologies that can be used to seed a database with data when installing an application or cache?
 
3:42 PM
why our room 'android era...` is blocked...? @ColdFire @geisterfurz007
 
Zoe
@Ramona no apparent reason for it, Jon hasn't shared why with anyone but the ROs who don't share anything either (haven't tried the last one though)
 
@Zoe thanks Lunar. will it get back to normal, you think?
 
Zoe
No clue
There's a post on meta about it, no clue how it will play out (I don't care either, I just joined today because I saw geis was there. I have left the room)
 
why did you actually leave ?
 
Zoe
it's a long story, mostly about uncontrollable spam, constant rule breaking and the room getting too hard to manage
 
3:52 PM
i see.. but recently it has changed a bit for bettter, hasn't it?
 
Zoe
Not really. It's still the same problems, except now that a large chunk of core users are gone the chatroom is quieter. Still has spam, constant rule breaking and can't be controlled by a RO alone
that's why rekire planned on making a moderation bot
 
coughs
 
hope you didnt avoid that room coz of me :), that i didn't scare you off :)
 
Zoe
No, that's not the reason (you followed the rules)
 
but this whole spam came from chat users, right?
 
Zoe
3:56 PM
yep
 
to be honest with you i didn't even know the rules :) just followed my character :)
 
Zoe
You don't need to know the rules if you use common sense
The problem is that there are a lot drop-by askers (people who join the room, paste a ton of code right into chat, ask a question and repeat it multiple times)
That's one type of spam + rule breaking, then there's ping for attention, mass pinging, image spam (png, jpg, gif, any kind of onebox really that ends up overflowing chat)
 
yes, you right. specially all cats lovers post images :)
 
Zoe
Images aren't a problem themselves, but it usually ends up with multiple in a row
A single image here and there is fine, a single gif here and there is fine; but when multiple come right after each other, it ends up being too much
I was a RO over there before I left, I tried moderating it but there's too much for one person to handle
The rest of the ROs were usually away
 
maybe it would be good to raise this entry requirements?
 
Zoe
4:19 PM
-5
Q: Request for reopening the room "Android Era with Kotlin and Java"

TheLittleNarutoIt's been rough time for our chatroom for few weeks. We tried our best to stop it. But at the end it was not sufficient to keep the room alive. But after discussing with Jon and my fellow ROs, we came up with some ideas which we want to implement. First thing first, we will make the room gallery...

That's the plan
Getting crushed by the community though, even Jon is sceptic
I am starting to doubt it'll be reopened, and I actually don't care either way. Most of the current ROs are rarely there and they rarely do any kind of moderation of what goes on. Me and some other people from Android Era (+ leaf village) created a discord server so we could still chat, but not worry about moderators and spam and all the other bs
(when I say not worry about moderators I mean in terms of stuff getting misinterpreted and someone ends up banned as a result of it. The thread from a moderator with closing a chatroom isn't fun going around with hanging over you either)
 
@hello all
i have an small query in .
Rest service
If any one knows please let me know..
I have to do the Rest Mocking with SOAPUI..i have an WADL file..
I want to do without the help of Postman..
 
Zoe
isn't RESTful JavaScript?
 
I am really sorry for posting this here but java webservice developers mostly aware of this.
thats why posting..
 
i know what you mean Lunar. again i agree with you. anyway, it's a pitty if they won't reopen it again @Z
 
RESTful json
 
Zoe
4:30 PM
If they reopen it they're adding a lot of stuff to prevent the problems they had in the past
 
there was a nice atmosphere in general..
 
Zoe
the problem being that the gallery room would change the room entirely. No one that suddenly joins and helps keeping the room alive
 
/HELP
 
you were an important part of these puzzles. you got to go back there if reopened.
 
/ABOUT
 
Zoe
4:33 PM
@vidya it's case sensitive
Use lower-case letters
/help
 
Commands=====================
/8ball     Simulates a magic 8-ball.
/about     Displays information about this bot.
/afk       Allows users to mark themselves as "away".
/cat       Displays a random cat picture. :3
/define    Displays word definitions from the dictionary.
/fatcat    Displays a random fat cat.
/groot     I am Groot.
/help      Displays this help message.
/http      Displays information about HTTP status codes and methods.
/javadoc   Displays class documentation from the Javadocs.
 
useful thing..
 
Zoe
@Ramona I have no intent to
Besides, if you read TLN's post he says there's a list of users they will ban. Hans is definitivly on the list, same with chew. I bet I am too. Either way I stopped caring. The ROs stopped moderating stuff a long time ago, they stopped doing what they're supposed to do
 
5:23 PM
@Zoe Don't mind the camera in your room.
 
Zoe
@Michael lol what?
 
I've said too much.
 
Zoe
What camera?
What room?
@Michael
 
@motaa you my man, have just made a new indie project
 
Zoe
5:52 PM
And there's the flow of stupid ideas. I'm leaving before I act out on them. Cya all later
 
@Michael Spring Boot: make jar not war
 
6:33 PM
@Zoe I would like to note that I am unsure about the "worrying about spam" since one specific user joined. But that only on the side...
Good morning Itachi :)
 
Morning! What a stupid start to the day.
It looks like J&A era is banned.
 
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 I know who and what you are referring to, and I get the point. But the entire server is self-moderated. Everyone can delete the spam, and warn the relevant user to not do that stuff
 
And Hans is in trouble.
@fredoverflow +1
 
It sooner or later had to come this way. And to be honest... I don't see a reason to start a fight against mods. Hell there even has been a guy who wrote something along the lines of "kill Jon C." (who closed the room). They got more power and there is not much one can do if you are in their scope...
And I can understand their points. The fact that certain people could spam the hell out of that room without anyone stopping them is a sign that moderation by RO's has not been done properly (or to be honest... Almost not at all).
Either close it, give it some time, hope that people understand that they did wrong and that it will get better
or
deal with a room with missing moderation and lots of traffic

I know what I would choose ;)
 
Zoe
I wrote this over on meta chat, but it is still a valid point: the discord server we have has most of the AE core users. We are basically Android Era. The same users tend to get slightly out of control at times, but it gets back into control quickly because we actually manage it
 
6:48 PM
@ItachiUchiha yup
@ItachiUchiha yup
 
We are not at all Android Era. The people that write on the discord are the people with the most messages in Android Era, yes. But they are not Android Era....
The people that help there should be "AE". Not the ones abusing a service that has been create for a different purpose.
If you would take out Tavo, Wietlol, Michael, ballBreaker, Itachi and me out of this room (maybe Madara and fge as well) then you could say that you threw the core out of the Java chat...
What I mean is that the core should be the part that is doing the major part of "work". Not the major part of "work causing"
But those are just my 3 pennies :)
 
lol
3 pennies instead of 2 cent
 
Zoe
(I helped a lot in AE with programming questions) but I get your point
I can't think properly xD I should take a break from this for a while (AE problems)
 
lol
@geisterfurz007 i have no idea what specific user are we talking about?
 
@ColdFire that is perfectly fine :)
 
7:01 PM
@geisterfurz007 why you no telling me :(
bad ghost :/
geissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
 
@ColdFire Because it is perfectly fine if not everyone knows everything :)
 
oh
 
Hello guys
 
@sparrow2 Welcome to the Java Chat, the room for Java enthusiasts! Please use a code snippet tool when posting code snippets. If you have an Android question, you're in the wrong place! And remember: this is not tech support! Thanks for visiting and have fun! :D
 
Zoe
I pinged both of you because it's also a question to geis whether or not it's right xD
 
7:02 PM
lol
 
Zoe
Missed it
 
@Zoe I will not answer that question because I am very sure that you already know the answer on the question whether it is right or not :)
 
Zoe
oh
 
Oh hai Petter :)
 
@PetterFriberg yo
 
7:04 PM
\o you have chat flags
 
on the "dumb as fuck" one?
 
oh my what was flagged?
 
Kinda stupid that I cannot see the flags as RO >.>
@sparrow2 Watch your language in the future good lad/lady/helicopter :)
 
Zoe
^
 
7:05 PM
1 message moved to friendly bin
 
@geisterfurz007 Yeah you need 10K
 
Zoe
IMO you should be able to review flags and see flags as a RO
 
@PetterFriberg soon
\o/
 
anyone flagged me?:D
 
@PetterFriberg Still if something is flagged in the same room one should be moderating in, it is kinda strange that one may not see them...
@sparrow2 Yes. Looks like it
 
7:06 PM
yeah watch your language dude
 
Yeah watch out, some peps flag just to get people suspended.
 
I wonder whether I should put out a meta post on that stuff...
Think I am going for it :)
 
probably it will be a dupe you better check first ;)
 
Yeah I just thought about it :D
 
7:07 PM
strange this room has all regulars only
@Zoe did you?
 
no need to investigate, better just to avoid bad words, or delete/edit quick if a waffle slips out
 
yeah i am just asking
 
@geisterfurz007 I can't find dupe, go for it
 
Zoe
@ColdFire did I what?
 
Yeah me neither :) Thanks for taking a look as well!
 
7:10 PM
@geisterfurz007 yeah go for it
 
@Zoe raise a flag
 
@Zoe ^
 
Zoe
No I didn't
 
ok
 
maybe an automatic flag or whatever...
 
7:12 PM
no there is no auto flags... anyway who cares, someone did not like the language and flagged.
 
why this 'Request for reopening the room...' is been downvoted so many times?
 
and I got a chance to salute you guys
 
salute us for what?
 
Zoe
@Ramona because there are many people against the reopening
 
7:14 PM
why?
 
@PetterFriberg i thik there is a problem because we are seeing too much flagging these days
 
Zoe
@Ramona I have no clue. Everyone who downvoted has their reason for it.
 
@ColdFire I just mean to say Hi, I did not know you where hanging around here.
 
@PetterFriberg oh i am always online in all 16 rooms just ping me if you need me
same in SOBotics
 
@Ramona There is a story on other networks a room was reopened and it went bad, Shog went really mad, let me see if I can find meta
 
7:18 PM
from my point of view it is that if one doesn't like the room, just doesn't need to enter it and that's all. why be against so 'publicly' about it...
 
@Ramona you can read some here meta.stackexchange.com/questions/296009/…, there are also some post on SciFi.SE where Shog explains thing better. I think by now if RO can't keep room under control, hence mods have to freeze it, there is no chance anymore that it will be reopened.
 
Zoe
@Ramona because this is an open chat platform where anyone can see anything. If there are people who don't like a room, they can stay out of it. But if there's a vote to reopen a room those people will be against it and maybe with good reason
 
I think it is because it has already been freezed, too much mess for normal community that does not care about chat rooms. SE have a thin line how rooms should be run, if moderators need to be involved multiple times, they just shut'em down since not core stuff of SE
 
7:29 PM
i agree with you all. But at the same time well behaving users are punished too :)
 
I like chat, but I can see how it can get annoying for moderators ecc if a room often has a mess.
 
Zoe
I'm out. Cya all later
 
Cya Zoe
 
cya
Oh hey Zoe!
How long has it been? 3 seconds? :>
 
see you Lunar.
thank you for conversation.
 
Zoe
7:35 PM
Please, dear SO chat, please let me leave xD
 
@geisterfurz007 flagged me
I think he feel proud of
 
@sparrow2 That is fake news :)
 
lol
 
I did not insult anyone here
 
If your plan is to disrupt this chatroom that is not going to happen :)
 
7:37 PM
don't be crybabies
 
Sir if you don't stop that stuff you are going to leave the room
 
never intented to do so
 
if you want or not :)
Oh hey Zoe :)
 
i think you are the only one who is disrupted,not others
 
Zoe
bangs head against wall
Why can't they fix this bug?
 
7:40 PM
@sparrow2 You might want to think about what to use this chat for for some minutes :)
 
Zoe
Let's try this again xD
 
Oh hai xD
 
Zoe
You know what? I'm too tired to deal with this. I'll just close my browser and ignore that I can't leave the room
cya
 
cya :D
 
it's unbilivable
I'm out
 
7:42 PM
Great!
Have a good day :)
 
cya
@sparrow2 on what basis you claimed that?
 
Don't throw a coin into that troll machine :)
 
oh well
 
One can flag their own messages btw...
Possible that one just wants to screw with some chat users...
 
really never tried
 
7:48 PM
You have the option on your own messages. So I guess it works. Except they blocked it after you clicked on the item in the popup
 
8:41 PM
wheezes
 
 
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11:12 PM
@motaa hmm... just saw the notification
guess I wasnt paying attention at the time
 
11:27 PM
@Wietlol just the time?
 
all* the time
 

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