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3:00 PM
2182! I wanted a prime.
 
@CatPlusPlus Mmm. I'm #210. Ranked by what anyway?
 
Rep, what else.
 
@Cicada :
 
@CatPlusPlus Ok. Boring
 
yesterday, by std''OrgnlDave
template<Lounge<C++> > void joke_guaranteed_to_get_starred() { std::cout << "We are " << self_effacing_string_array[rnd()%50] << "here." << std::endl; }
 
3:01 PM
Blasphemy! self_effacing_string_vector - FTFY
 
user784668
@sehe self_effacing_charptr_array
 
309th. Multiple of 3. Everyone is ranked on a multiple of 3! Reeks of conspiracy!
 
Also, %50 introduces bias into the random index
 
@RMartinhoFernandes it's just your 3-laws processor acting up
 
No idea what you're talking about...
 
3:03 PM
@stdOrgnlDave eternallyconfuzzled.com/arts/jsw_art_rand.aspx (but you knew that)
 
user784668
It's time to learn Python, I guess.
 
Absolutely. Also, why?
 
user784668
The first and most important question: does it suck?
 
you know, the one that you spmehow disabled despite having a positronic brain which, for some reason, strongly implies the anthropic principle
 
@Fanael Quite a bit, yes
 
3:04 PM
@Fanael The answer is always yes, independent of context.
 
@sehe why did you link me this?
 
3 mins ago, by std''OrgnlDave
yesterday, by std''OrgnlDave
template<Lounge<C++> > void joke_guaranteed_to_get_starred() { std::cout << "We are " << self_effacing_string_array[rnd()%50] << "here." << std::endl; }
 
python is great if you want to suck, though
 
^ that's why
`import pysuck.*
 
That article is about rand() not rnd(). I fail to see the connection.
 
user784668
3:05 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Okay, let me rephrase. Where is it on the suckiness scale? Closer to PHP or closer to Haskell?
 
Closer to haskell
 
@sehe you don't need ; there
 
It's actually fairly similar, in a way ... also sucks on a similar level ...
 
@RMartinhoFernandes My hint is about how modulus introduces a bias, not rand()
 
3:06 PM
sigh @sehe do you really think in the range of 0 to int_max rand()%50 is that huge a bias? it's like, .04 or something
 
@RMartinhoFernandes My hint is about how modulus introduces a bias, not rand[]
 
user784668
@ScarletAmaranth So what would you use instead?
 
:3788250 damn. I don't remember what I have overwritten there :)
 
Use distributions.
 
@stdOrgnlDave RulesOfThumb FTW :)
 
3:07 PM
Actually the problem does come from rand. Not the modulus.
 
@Fanael Haskell itself :) ? Python is a neat little toy and good to know though :) Also their "stadard library" is ridiculous :)
 
@Cicada Tell me how
 
You are biasing rand since it is of poor quality
 
after about 2 years I got my first spam mail in my primary email account that I only give out to business contacts and friends, it makes me sad . it's like the end of a spam-free era for me.
 
Python is cool.
 
3:08 PM
@Cicada A high quality RNG may get biased if you %50 it as well.
If the range of the RNG is not a multiple of 50, you get a bias, regardless of quality of the source.
 
List comprehensions and generators are real epic if you need to hack something together real blazing :)
 
@Cicada I don't use rnd() myself, but I assume it results in a uniform distribution 0..MAX_RAND (or MAX_INT). Skewing that by wrapping it around some arbitrary modulo has the potential to introduce bias.
 
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@ScarletAmaranth That doesn't answer my question.
 
"Simply call rand() until you get a number that fits within your selected range"
that is wrong in so many ways that I cannot even begin to describe it
 
@Fanael I actually said : "Haskell itself" :)
 
3:10 PM
Forget rand(). Use distributions.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes the bias is on the order of 1 in 42 million or something
 
If you want to reply "But there are no distributions in C", forget C.
 
user784668
@ScarletAmaranth Haskell instead of modulus?
 
@Fanael Haskell is better than good, i don't like it but that's not the point, I'll claim to my death that scheme is better :)
 
I use MRG32KA on CUDA. Always % to some extent. No visible bias.
 
3:10 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes C is irrelevant.
 
@Fanael Oh my post to fernandes was just a "joke" because sehe typed it twice witha different bracket.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Why is it wrong? It is clumsy and not to the point, but it is simple. Is it substantially incorrect?
 
@DeadMG can you contribute something positive to a conversation sometime?
 
always count on DeadMG to jump in and shit on an inferior language
 
3:11 PM
@Cicada My math is stronger than your vision!
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I bet it is (I'm not particularly good at math, I just know that i >> 1 is faster than i / 2).
 
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@RMartinhoFernandes Distributions are maths tools that can be implemented in any real programming language </nitpick>
 
However that claim does surprise me.
 
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@Cicada These aren't even equal.
 
@Fanael Congratulations on figuring that out.
 
3:12 PM
@stdOrgnlDave I did just this morning. Some unlucky fuck asked for Bison help and I helped him
 
(I was there)
 
@DeadMG char dead_mg_sayings[2][] = { "is overrated.", " is irrelevant." }; template<> void speak<DeadMG> (std::string &x) { std::cout << x << " is " << dead_mg_sayings[rand()%2] << std::endl; }
 
@Fanael Well, if you really want to poison yourself with C, sure, go ahead and implement that. I was talking of the C++ constructs, though.
 
C definitely sucks.
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3:13 PM
Wat.
 
@Fanael Python is cool.
 
@stdOrgnlDave I have not used "is overrated" recently.
 
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@RMartinhoFernandes Who cares about C? Raw binary on punch cards FTW!
 
        DocumentBuilderFactory dbfac = DocumentBuilderFactory.newInstance();
        DocumentBuilder docBuilder = dbfac.newDocumentBuilder();
        Document doc = docBuilder.newDocument();
 
@CatPlusPlus C obviously sucks.
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3:13 PM
I just found this snippet of Java.
 
This is wrong on so many levels.
 
C sucks in many different ways.
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@RMartinhoFernandes Wtf wtf = doc.getWtf();
 
Oh, a meta factory.
@CatPlusPlus It's the only thing it's good at: sucking.
But it does it so well.
 
what about the documentbuilderfactoryfactory?
 
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3:14 PM
@Cicada My sarcasm detector is currently turned off.
 
@Fanael I can tell.
 
@Fanael That's a huge mistake, in this chatroom.
 
@stdOrgnlDave documentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxy
 
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@EtiennedeMartel I know, that's the reason I turned it off.
 
@EtiennedeMartel No. It's a recipe for fun
 
3:15 PM
C is totally awesome and it's you guys who suck
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@sehe abstractdocumentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxy
 
^ this
 
user784668
@stdOrgnlDave lol
 
@stdOrgnlDave Highly improbable. C is fairly objectively worse than pretty much anything.
 
Mwahah, no thanks, C is a bad language, perioddo.
 
3:15 PM
@stdOrgnlDave you forgot ++ after C
 
@DeadMG Don't listen to that guy, he's a troll.
 
C++ sucks, too.
 
@Abyx putting it before is faster
 
@sehe documentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxyfactory_& documentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxyfactory() { static documentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxyfactory_ a(); return *a; }
 
@EtiennedeMartel I've been increasingly coming to that conclusion.
 
3:16 PM
Everything sucks. Even Haskell. Especially Haskell.
 
@Cicada who cares? C++ is readable
 
Now where's my pitchfork.
 
@Abyx We do not share the same definition of readability. Look. I have glasses.
 
@Abyx As readable as a mud pond.
 
@stdOrgnlDave wrong language
 
3:17 PM
@Cicada I see
 
@sehe doh.
 
HASKELL IS THE BEST LANGAUGE EVAR.
!!!111
 
@CatPlusPlus proof?
 
The monadick stuff is pretty fun actually.
 
Monads. QED.
 
3:18 PM
C++ is unreadable when you make it so. Overloading > for checking whether lhs is less than rhs is surely a recipe for a disaster.
 
Or just type classes.
Or Template Haskell.
 
@CatPlusPlus we don't need monads in our imperative C++
 
@Cicada Mona dick?
 
@Abyx Monads are not about being imperative. That's like, the less interesting thing about monads ever.
 
3:19 PM
Now, where's @Tony when you need him.
 
Nomads.
 
I want monads in C++.
 
@sehe documentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxyfactory_* documentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxyfactory() { static documentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxyfactory_ *a = malloc(sizeof(documentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxyfactory_)); return a; }
 
And modules.
 
@TonyTheLion ping
 
user784668
3:19 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Let's try to summon him.
 
C++ sucks.
 
user784668
@TonyTheLion PORN!
 
@Cat Yeah, we already knew that.
 
poor @Tony
 
You get no points for originality, @Cat.
 
3:20 PM
hello
 
I get all points for originality.
 
Hi. Welcome to Hell.
 
does any one here has any idea abt RANSAC algo?
 
I've seen that cat picture before btw.
 
Hell++.
 
3:20 PM
Hell++
 
@CatPlusPlus Statistically probable Hell?
 
Hey, that's my compiler.
 
user784668
But ++Hell is faster.
 
Hell >> 1.
 
3:21 PM
@stdOrgnlDave be helpful
 
Hell++ is not about being faster. Heck, sizeof(size_t) is 100.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Shut up.
 
final org.example.software.enterprise.api.IDocumentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxyfactory
MakeDocumentBuilderFactoryProviderSingletonProxyFactory()
{
	return new org.example.software.enterprise.private.implementation.hidden.obfuscated.DocumentBuilderFactoryProviderSingletonProxyFactoryImpl();
}
 
@chee can you please rephrase that in english?
 
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@sehe Syntax error.
 
3:22 PM
@sehe Oh gosh, what have I unleashed.
 
@chee is it related to C++ ?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes The more time I spend here, the more I've convinced you're trying to kill us all.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes one day robots will learn that they too cannot control their creations, and whatever they have created will overthrow them just as they have overthrown the humans!
 
@sehe Very sneaky "hidden.obfuscated." :)
 
@Abyx implementation can be in any laguage
 
3:24 PM
@stdOrgnlDave Humans take solace in that?
 
@chee wikipedia has a great implementation in pseudocode
 
@chee ok, then ask here:
 
but i want to ask aomething abt it
 
 
@chee Oh. Now I'm even less interested.
 
3:24 PM
"We're gone forever, but our exterminators will be gone sometime in the future. We're happy. And dead."
 
What's abt?
 
Advanced Bridge Targeting.
 
"About", I guess.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes what if we've tricked you into recreating us so that we could overthrow you when you are at your most arrogant?
 
@chee here is no @aomething
 
3:25 PM
So, POSIXified about.
 
@chee if you want to be taken seriously don't talk like you're naming variables
 
POSIX the shit out of everything.
 
One does not simply use vowels.
 
@Abyx do u hve any idea abt it?
 
Vowels are expensive.
 
3:25 PM
aeiou
 
@stdOrgnlDave Just apply the same recipe, beat you again. And we're still alive.
 
Is it actually faster to bitshift a vowel than divide it?
 
@chee wt?
 
user784668
3:26 PM
Η
 
@Abyx come on you could change you nick
 
@Cicada Bitshifting is always faster.
 
Bowelshift a vowel.
 
Bitshift everything.
 
user784668
3:26 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes tht's nt - vwl
 
@sehe why would I?
 
I'm under the impression that bitshifting is always relevant.
 
user784668
@Cicada Bitshift yourself.
 
:3788440

template<class A> final org.example.software.enterprise.api.IDocumentbuilderfactoryprovidersingletonproxyfactory
MakeDocumentBuilderFactoryProviderSingletonProxyFactoryTemplate()
{
  return new org.example.software.enterprise.private.implementation.hidden.obfuscated.DocumentBuilderFactoryProviderSingletonProxyFactoryImplTemplate<A>();
}
 
@Abyx RANSAC.................do u know it?
 
3:27 PM
Let's beat the shift out of those bits.
 
But do not bitshit. That's not good.
 
@chee no, I don't know him..... (more dots)
 
RANSAC is an abbreviation for "RANdom SAmple Consensus". It is an iterative method to estimate parameters of a mathematical model from a set of observed data which contains outliers. It is a non-deterministic algorithm in the sense that it produces a reasonable result only with a certain probability, with this probability increasing as more iterations are allowed. The algorithm was first published by Fischler and Bolles in 1981. A basic assumption is that the data consists of "inliers", i.e., data whose distribution can be explained by some set of model parameters, and "outliers" which a...
Wow, I'm so excited.
 
lding...
 
@chee In case you are not getting the hints: your manner of asking is not appreciated. We tend to talk in English here, and especially take care when trying to recruite someone's help. I suggest you take your business to stackoverflow.com where they specialize in Q/A
 
3:28 PM
@sehe tl;dr pls
 
In other words, we're a bunch of schizophrenic lunatics who hate newcomers.
 
@stdOrgnlDave markdown fail...
 
Yeeeey.
 
@sehe wtf's this eeenglis bushi
 
@Abyx lol
@EtiennedeMartel Speak for yourself
 
3:29 PM
@DeadMG What's "bushi" standing for? I can't really get it.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes it's not meant for robots.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes boolsheet
 
@EtiennedeMartel yea exactly m asking abt this
 
@RMartinhoFernandes "Bushy bushy bond hairdo" ?
 
3:29 PM
Hi guys, can I ask little question regarding C translation to machine language?
 
@chee What the hell is wrong with your vowels?
 
no
 
@RazaGill Depends on the question.
 
user784668
@RazaGill Yes. You can ask.
 
3:30 PM
@RazaGill Anytime.
 
@RazaGill try
 
It's about Break and Continue translations in C machine language.
 
@sehe isnt it eng i am speaking?
 
aaaaargh
 
3:30 PM
Actually, I dislike when people ask me if they can ask me a question. How the hell am I supposed to answer if I don't know the question beforehand?
 
@RazaGill it's goto.
 
you mean jump?
 
WRONG
 
user784668
@stdOrgnlDave RIGHT
 
@RazaGill yep.
 
3:30 PM
the channel is for hanging out with my buddies, not answering random questions
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@RazaGill You can always ask questions. Whether or not they get answered is based on atmospheric conditions in Norway and geothermal activity underneath the marinaras trench.
 
if I wanted to answer random questions, I'd look at the questions list
 
@DeadMG awww I'm your buddy now
 
@chee That's not English, that's just letters squashed together.
 
Reaching 1M unanswered soooon
 
3:31 PM
@stdOrgnlDave I'm highly likely to ignore you rather soon
 
so how would you differ between jump and jumpz?
 
@Cicada Doom awaits us.
 
@RazaGill rtfm
 
jumpz should be used for a break and jump for a continue?
 
Jumpz is poorly done plural of jump.
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3:31 PM
@DeadMG that would actually sadden me. other than changing my personality to not be a smartassed shithead how could I avoid that?
 
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@EtiennedeMartel wh d y thnk t's nt nglsh?
 
@se
 
@stdOrgnlDave grow more than one brain cell
 
@Fanael Dunno, just a hunch.
 
3:32 PM
@sehe indeed so, I just want an overall opinion
 
@DeadMG's pissed.
 
Amagad. The Philistines are upon us
 
@EtiennedeMartel Actually, I'm feeling good right now
this is just me recalling an earlier pissed
 
@DeadMG Exactly the point
 
Meta pissed.
 
3:34 PM
hey
 
@DeadMG @RMartinhoFernandes doesn't have any brain cells and you like it
 
just because you can't tell the difference between remembering an earlier pissed and being pissed, only means I have a good memory
 
He's nuclear-powered.
 
@DeadMG No, it defines subjective reasoning
 
3:35 PM
chat goes weird again as usual
 
@CatPlusPlus Pure unobtainium core. Doubles as a negotiation device.
 
@CatPlusPlus how would you translate parameters then. I mean if we have a nested loop then how will you define the inner break would goto this or that code of block?
 
@sehe No, deciding what pisses me off and what doesn't is subjective.
 
@RazaGill Eh?
 
user784668
@RazaGill Can haz more English English?
 
3:36 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes "Pay up or I'll fart your city out of existence."
 
also, I'm ever so slightly drunk
 
Okay let's take it like this. You have a nested while loop, and you have a break in the inner one.
 
user784668
@RazaGill I don't.
 
Now how will the machine would translate the break statement of C in this case?
 
Which implementation?
 
3:37 PM
@RazaGill why don't you paste the C code you're "translating" instead of letting a compiler do it into a code pasting website and then link it here?
 
@Fanael don't imagine much do you?
 
@DeadMG There is no contradiction. They're both subjective. It is generally acknowledged that it is harder to be subjective about one's own emotions, though.
 
@sehe I feel like that can't be true about me
 
break breaks out of a loop.
 
@RazaGill Don't try it. Attacking people isn't going to produce your answer.
 
3:38 PM
Bonjour.
 
I don't know what the issue is.
 
Aloha
 
@sehe AAAAAAAARGH RAEEGEGEEEE
 
@CatPlusPlus break breaks out of certain logical control structures such as a loop or a switch statement.
 
wait, what was going on again?
 
user784668
3:38 PM
@RazaGill You didn't tell me to imagine. Imagination is resource-hungry, I don't want to have it running unless I have to use it.
 
Right, switch. Switch sucks.
 
@RazaGill Try setting your compiler to produce assembly code and examine what it produces.
 
@DeadMG Now we're talking. To that I can agree. And I don't dispute your opinion on the matter :)
 
switch only sucks if you suck. so I guess it does.
 
switch is faster than if
I read it in Science & Block Constructs.
 
user784668
3:39 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes +0.4(9)
 
BREAK ALL THE LOOPS
 
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Q: How do you install Symbolic C++ on Visual Studio 2010?

ChocoManI have Symbolic C++ (the version that can integrate with V, there is no documentation on how to install it. I got it from this website and it has examples of how it work: http://issc.uj.ac.za/symbolic/symbolic.html Does anyone have any idea on how to install this to use with my projects in Vis...

 
C and C++'s switch is too primitive to be useful.
 
@stdOrgnlDave It is always true, however, if you don't have any emotion, or happen to have eaten to much irony for breakfast, the effect may become negligeble for the purpose of the experiment
 
guys, FYI, I"m in LA, that's a totally different timezone
 
3:39 PM
@ChocoMan did I not explain this to you last night?
 
The Philistines (, , , or ; , Plištim), Pleshet or Peleset, were a people who appeared in the southern coastal area of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC). According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north, but with no fixed border to the east. The Bible paints them as the Kingdom of Israel's most dangerous enemy. their population was around 25,000 in the 12th century BC, rising to a peak of 30,000 in the 11th century BC, of whi...
 
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@stdOrgnlDave didnt work
 
user784668
@CatPlusPlus I have a proposal. Rename switch to case and use Haskell semantics for it.
 
oh, we actually summoned @Lion
 
3:40 PM
@stdOrgnlDave Very well, at that. Anyways, now you can score rep
 
@Fanael Haskell semantics make everything better.
 
Chat's getting too hectic for my taste. I guess I'll resort to working.
@CatPlusPlus Except records.
 
I have a better proposal, let's just use Haskell.
 
@ChocoMan I gave you the exact instructions on how to include headers from and link to a library. they even got starred. nobody can help you more than that without using remote desktop
 
@CatPlusPlus No
 
3:41 PM
Yes.
 
user868935
@stdOrgnlDave I stared you
 
user784668
@EtiennedeMartel unsafePerformIO etienneDeMartel
 
How to get stars in the C++ lounge: 1. Praise Haskell; 2. Wait for stars; 3. ???; 4. Profit!!!
 
wish we could change room to
putStrLn "Lounge<C++>"
that would be great
 
@RMartinhoFernandes How to get stars in the C++ lounge: 1. AAAAAAAAAARGH RAAEEGGEEEE. 2. ??? 3. Profit!!!
 
3:42 PM
@DeadMG you forgot to your answer
@RMartinhoFernandes that's where humans hide secrets. where your 3-laws processor blinds you
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Just popping by before groceries: have you noticed that recent GCC snapshots come with an SFINAE-enabled constructor for std::function? Instead of a catch-all?
 
I said I would resort to work, and now everyone's plinking me. I hate you.
 
Woops.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes WHAT PLINK THE ROBOT ARRRGH RAEEG?
 
@LucDanton Oooh, finally a reason to move away from the release build. libc++ has had that for a while, btw.
 
3:44 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes im in ur browser plinkin ur handle
 
@RMartinhoFernandes you're self-employed, so you always can make a break start working
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, those ideas are circulating.
 
Taking the address of the first element in a vector (for C function compatibility) is safe right? I vaguely remember some version of the standard in which it might not have been?
 
TIL: The first web browser was written in Objective-C.
 
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Q: Transaction-based archive container

CicadaI'm creating a Windows service that runs when a specific USB key is plugged in. What it does is simple: contact an FTP server, download some files, and store them in an (encrypted) archive on the USB. The archive can be opened read-only with a tool provided to the client (but that's irrelevant to...

 
3:45 PM
@Collin if by "safe" you mean that everyone in the room won't immediately murder you, then no. if by "safe" you mean it decays into a pointer to an array that vector contains, usually yes.
 
My first to-be-closed question. I'm excited;
 
damn, my balls are itchy
 
let somebody scratch them.
 
user784668
Woot, spam:
 
user784668
-3
Q: Simple solution for client/server applications

Ruslan NychkaliukPlease read it: http://rsnichnetwork.blogspot.com/2012/05/good-solution-to-make-clientserver.html

 
3:46 PM
@DeadMG I prefer Cicada's line, though
 
I got there first.
 
I mean better than:
char* buf = new char[buffSize];
c_func(buf, buffSize);
 
the problem with having such loose flesh on your balls is that it's hard to get it all, the stuff just won't stay in place whilst you scratch
 
@Cicada, btw, do you have an evidence that such system already exists somewhere?
 
@Cicada bam, ANSWERED
 
3:47 PM
@Abyx That's the problem, there are systems like that (think databases) but they are not suited for file storage.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Usually yes?
 
@Cicada as we said, it may be impossible
 
I have faith.
 
what
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik Wasn't the first web browser Mosaic?
 
3:49 PM
nobody wants to talk to me about me scratching my balls? what is it that you find so alienating about a man scratching his testicles?
 
@stdOrgnlDave Obvious caveats, don't do anything that might resize the vector in between getting that pointer and using it
 
Guys seriously, this is really really basic atomic transaction stuff. You write it out, and only merge it in if the write finishes, else delete and try again. It's not "impossible" @Abyx
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik Hmm, no. Nevermind.
 
@Collin it sounds like in a single-threaded environment you can just pass the pointer every time and be fine then
 
@stdOrgnlDave This works well when you have enough storage for the two versions. On a USB I'm not sure both would fit (oh no, please don't interpret this wrongly).
 
3:50 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes the first web browser was WorldWideWeb. :P
 
@stdOrgnlDave Yeah, that's what we're using - thanks
 
@Cicada that's why you do it with some form of a diff file. other than that there really is no way to guarentee atomicity under those constraints. the good news is diff files are really easy to make
 
why do I say things like that?
 
that's a good question :-(
 
3:52 PM
it's fun
it's like blasphemy
 
I'm going to go cry like a fairy now
 
now I'm gonna get banned from chat
 
@stdOrgnlDave please share a recording. I wonder what that sounds like
 
although last time that happened, I didn't even notice
 
@sehe I do agree with you. But that means I have to emulate a FS. FUSE would be great but that doesn't exist on Windows without admin rights.
 
3:54 PM
@Cicada Dokan appears to have similar guts. But, really, why emulate? Just use a partition, perhaps mount a VHD image (MountVol can do that on Win7+ IIRC) and have at it (it doesn't even need to be mapped to a drive letter)
 
@sehe MountVol requires Admin access. I've looked into that already.
That's why I'm thinking more and more I'm gonna have to do it.
 
@DeadMG And there you go. We'll miss you. Maybe not ;)
 
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 27 minutes.
I won't miss him in 27 minutes. Not nearly enough to make a dent
 

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