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5:00 PM
@FredOverflow WideC++?
 
user784668
What is WideC, anyway?
 
@Fanael DeadMG++
 
Als
@DeadMG next week haa, get wasted :P
 
lol
I cut the C, by the way
just named Wide now
 
oh, is this your pot induced language?
 
5:04 PM
no pot
 
:(
not even a little bit?
 
no
 
not even in a brownie?
 
no
 
Als
pup in no mode
 
5:07 PM
just want to clear the air here, I'm not a pot head
 
I disbelieve your statement
 
Als
trolls
uhm..Cameron Diaz
:P
 
lol
 
Als
Let me take this opportunity to summon the @TonyTheLion
 
5:09 PM
I'm sorry @dead, it's clearly @Als who's the resident pot head around here :P
 
lol
 
Als
@thecoshman And why this honor is being bestowed upon me? If I may know.
 
yes, I was summoned?
 
Als
2 mins ago, by Als
uhm..Cameron Diaz
 
5:10 PM
@Als only a pot head would mention her
 
there you go
:P
 
more of a redhead guy myself
 
Als
@thecoshman Okay, but well the logic is absurd.
@DeadMG You mean pup actually, don't you
 
okay guys, chill out
 
woof woof
 
5:11 PM
@Als jsut like with a pot hea.... oh
 
everyone who wants to screw up their body and take pot, go ahead, but let the rest of us get on with our lives
 
Als
@thecoshman, looks the likely candidate.
 
and don't tell me that pot is healthy, because you know you are talking bullshit and I honestly don't care if you want to admit it or not
 
@Als :P
again, just going to state, not a pot head
 
ok
understood
next...
 
5:13 PM
despite suggesting it plenty not a pot head :D
 
ok next...
 
Als
@TonyTheLion What happened to you, The lion getting agressive?
 
I'm a lion, I'm always aggressive
 
Als
Bloody Trolls you drove away Cameron...
 
those who get in my way, will have to deal with the consequences :P
 
5:14 PM
:D
 
Als
err...
lol
you mean con-sex-quences?
lol
 
heheh
 
innuendo, that's a staring
 
that doesn't sound proper
it should be con-sexy-quences
 
5:15 PM
I happen to listen to fairly aggressive music, which sometimes makes me aggressive :P
lulz
 
Als
And I hope you do practice Head Banging
 
@TonyTheLion huh, I listen to metal and feel relaxed..
 
Als
Might help while banging something else, I reckon ;)
 
:)
Nothing like a bit of Cannibal Corpse to calm you down :)
 
@TonyTheLion GrooveShark has a poor selection
 
Als
5:17 PM
Talking of calming down, I just think I had too much dinner.
 
Not for the faint of heart
 
have you herd their cover of 'smoke on the water' - Hilariousness
 
just warning you
 
sbi
Why am I not surprised to find this room talking about sex and @Tony in the midst of it?
 
oh what ?
 
Als
5:18 PM
Why not?
lol
 
you know, when this room is filled with sex talk, I'm bound to be a part of it, else it's really not worth talking about
 
Als
Its, Sex, @TonyTheLion, and Lies.
 
@sbi you would say that to most of us
any way, home time for me
 
no, he says that to me
cause I've become notorious for sex talk in this room
 
Als
@thecoshman: Travel safe Mr Pot Head ;) :P
 
sbi
5:19 PM
@thecoshman ^ What he says.
 
unfortunately hard to get rid of this reputation :(
 
@Als flying is the safest form of travel :P
 
user784668
sex was an actual instruction of some microprocessor, did you know that?
 
I DON'T SMOKE POT
:P
 
NO HE SNIFFS CRACK ^
 
5:20 PM
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
Als
If i remember correctly, @TonyTheLion, is the only one to have the distinction to get banned for saying sex too may times?
 
no
never got banned for mentioning sex, I got banned for someone who flagged my messages offensive
 
Als
Uhm, Apologies and correction.
 
lol, no worries
 
Als
It was the php kid right?
 
5:22 PM
yep
 
@TonyTheLion Meh, corpse. How about Devourment?
 
Als
@FredOverflow He does fancy devourment but of a different kind I reckon.
 
oh never heard of them
lol
 
Als
haha
okay I am going to take off, I think I ate too much...
Have a good day folks.
 
Oh nice, new Cenotaph. Well, 2010, but recently new :)
 
5:29 PM
@FredOverflow "Menstrual Dismemberment", lol
 
They used to have much funnier names like "Ex-Feminine Promiscuous Masculine's Solidified Klitoris Swallowed By Vermins In Coffins".
 
oh lol
 
probably randomly generated, dunno
 
> Mutilated Genitalia in Lack of Resurrection Under Effective Punch
lol
 
5:32 PM
Also, there's this band called Paracoccidioidomicosisproctitissarcomucosis :)
 
I posted a few songs earlier
Kvelertak (translating to English as "stranglehold" or "chokehold") is a six-piece rock & roll band from Stavanger, Norway. All lyrics are written in Norwegian, the band's native language, and concerning Norse mythology/Viking folklore. As of today, the six members are: Erlend Hjelvik (vocals), Vidar Landa (guitar), Bjarte Lund Rolland (guitar), Maciek Ofstad (guitar), Marvin Nygaard (bass), and Kjetil Gjermundrød (drums). Known for their consistent, idiosyncratic sound, the band states that their main influences are rock and roll, black metal and punk. The band has been featured in the ...
There's also "Skambankt", a more straight rock band
 
@TonyTheLion As I said, probably randomly generated or something. Nobody can invent nonsense like this.
 
@FredOverflow it's funny as hell
@FredOverflow they do have a 2011 album too
 
@FredOverflow They do think it's "normal". It's just words that are used in this social group to signify membership of that group.
 
@TonyTheLion Listening to "puked ... whatever" album right now. Quite technical. But who needs these minute-long movie intros?
@AlfPSteinbach Okay "puke" and "vomit" and various words for genitalia are there versions of types, variables, values, objects and such?
 
5:41 PM
@FredOverflow the general rule is, for "normal" words you just add some germanic-looking umlauts and what nöt
 
ünderstööd
 
like "ïnt"
at least that's my ïmpressiön. i may be wrong
 
@AlfPSteinbach Horrible sound. Is that YouTube's fault, or does the band actually sound like that?
 
@FredOverflow not sure because i can't hear anything here
 
6:00 PM
oh my
a C++11 conformance survey from the VC team?
that should be interesting
everyone should be awesome and do me a favor and give TLS max priority
MSVC Survey on C++11 conformance and feature prioritization - fill it out (and give TLS max priority for my sake :))
6
 
 // Static-SFX (for Linux) can be big.
-const UInt64 kMaxCheckStartPosition = 1 << 22;
+// Some SFX with cool GUI background images may be even bigger.
+const UInt64 kMaxCheckStartPosition = 16 * 1024 * 1024;
- patch to 7z code
@jalf VC++ already have TLS
 
@Abyx it doesn't have C++11 TLS
it doesn't have TLS for non-POD types
 
ah..
 
@jalf boost has some TLS
@jalf no problem use a pointer
i answered Yet Another Question, yay!
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Q: C++ Equivalent of C# Arraylist to hold Multiple Data Types

badboy11Looking for an equivalent container class that matches to C#'s Arraylist collections class. Is there anything that comes close to a container that can provide index based enumeration as well as hold multiple data types. I am trying to create an vector that can hold multiple data types. For examp...

 
6:15 PM
@AlfPSteinbach yeah, I've looked at it. Functionally, it has what I need, but it's slow, and monstrously hackish code I don't want to copy/modify
@AlfPSteinbach doesn't help with the important part: ensuring the destructor is called :)
 
@jalf maybe you could abstract up the Windows API layer. you get calls to DllMain on thread attach and detach. but I recall from 1999 that it sort of conflicts with the declared TLS stuff. must be very careful.
 
@AlfPSteinbach dllmain only works if I actually have a dll
for an executable (or something statically linked into that), it'll never be called
 
well, that's what i could think of
 
boost does some remarkably evil hackery with custom CRT sections to make it work
so they use that for the executable case, and dllmain for dlls
 
I made an account on meta and when I got 200 rep on SO I got +100 for my meta account, and then I got +100 for my SO account because I had over 100 on my meta account. Could I just sign up for other SE sites and get tons of rep?
 
6:23 PM
it's a one-off bonus
so no
 
Oh... :(
 
btw jalf
I decided that you were right and that I would try harder to look for a job without a degree
 
@jalf i had to look that up but evidently it's just about running static initializers (and finalizers?). so maybe you can fake it by calls to onexit or the like?
@jalf for those who fill out the MS survey, remember to give variadic templates and curly braces initializer lists top priority, and mention standard main support prominently. the latter because it would be really nice if one could teach standard C++ with Visual C++ without having to explain how to work around that Microsoft does most everything in non-standard ways. i.e., without accustomizing students to the idea that Workarounds(TM) are a common and good way to work.
2
 
6:41 PM
@AlfPSteinbach onexit only lets me run before process exit though. Would like destructors for TLS objects to run when the thread exits
@AlfPSteinbach Sure, and those too. I did put a few notes about better separation between ISO C++ and MS extensions (which would cover the main() thing) but didn't mention that explicitly
 
@jalf I'm cool with extensions. But what I want is for THE STANDARD LIBRARY TO COMPILE WITH EXTENSIONS DISABLED.
 
@MooingDuck yep, that's what I mean. I pointed out how just a few minor changes could have made C++/CX coexist nicely with standard C++. Instead, they made something that just seems designed to seep into ISO C++ code and pollute that
well, go ahead and tell them that. They've got a comment field on that survey :p
 
@jalf I did the survey days ago. I could do it again maybe :/
 
@MooingDuck ah cool
 
heh, I saw this window with (*) so I alt-tabbed over here and tried to save before I lost anything. Too much MSVC.
 
7:00 PM
@MooingDuck lol
 
heh, Zirak's chat bot is loose with it's input grammar. It understands "what're is an banana are?"
 
hey
 
sbi
C++ standards meeting getting started! #cpp #wg21
Record attendance for the C++ standards meeting, 73 attendees! #cpp #wg21
 
:)
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Here be typo's [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
sbi
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Please leave this tagline for at least 12hrs. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
meh
what's with the tagline wars
I wonder if Lions like eating ducks, cause else there is food for me in the chatroom right now :P
 
everyone ducks
k, by 4 no
 
7:10 PM
watching Stroupstroup's speech
 
Does my answer really suck ? : stackoverflow.com/a/9165684/733152
 
@TonyTheLion I'm obviously a cow. Don't know how people keep getting that confused
 
wut?
you do have a duck gravatar.
I don't care that you make mooing sounds
if you look like a duck, you're food :P
 
@MrAnubis I think he meant std::vector<std::string>::iterator should work, which your answer doesn't accept.
 
7:16 PM
where's the puppy?
@DeadMG
 
@MooingDuck aah , Thanks
 
@TonyTheLion there's a monkey
 
oh, the ape, but he's grumpy
 
sbi
@MooingDuck Where?! I haven't seen one here in a long time.
 
what you chattin' bout?
you're the ape
or monkey
 
7:19 PM
right here
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Once in a while, you should read a book. Any by Pratchett would do.
 
meh
I'm not a reader, you know that
@DeadMG How was the exam?
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion That's why I said what I said.
 
it was "Apply the LR algorithm on paper"
 
sbi
7:21 PM
> Anyone [...] using the m-word out of malice or willful ignorance is dealt with without mercy and shown an elementary biology lesson - ie, can a mere monkey hold somebody upside down by their ankles and bounce their head repeatedly off a hard unyielding floor? — wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Monkey
 
and "Write a parser on paper"
 
my paper doesn't compile
 
I shit you not, the exam actually asked me to write a parser on paper
I, of course, responded with pure excellent C++ which would likely compile and execute first time
 
and it was a fairly small grammar
 
7:22 PM
nice
 
but I'm still rather pissed off about it
 
well, writing an algorithm on paper isn't a bad excercise
 
programs are to be written with compilers, debuggers, and reference material, test cases
 
makes you think
 
it's a terrible exercise
algorithms are to be executed on a CPU
 
7:23 PM
@sbi std::iterator_traits<InputIterator>::value_type < why should I check for that I still did understand that
 
written by people with the Wikipedia page open on the other screen
 
@DeadMG no it's not
 
I am not a CPU and I don't tend to execute mathematical algorithms very accurately
 
sbi
@MrAnubis That's the type you get from an iterator when you dereference it. And the OP wants iterators into string sequences. So you need to compare that type to std::string.
 
7:24 PM
well, it helps you think with it, by writing it on paper, you don't just copy it from wikipedia like a parrot
robot can execute that in his head
but that's because he's a bot
 
@sbi aah , right :)
 
@jalf At the very least, if I wished to implement an LR parser generator myself, I would write a program that would do it.
 
@TonyTheLion first he's gotta scan it though
 
sbi
@MrAnubis See @Konrad's answer.
 
7:25 PM
wonder where bot is?
@bot
 
@sbi He's my rival in that question , I shouldn't look his answer :D (I did though now)
 
sbi
@DeadMG Hold it right there for a min. You'd write an LR parser generator generator?! Didn't you just this morning express your dislike for meta?
@MrAnubis Do it for the learning, not for the rep.
 
0
Q: Regular Expression Creation for HTML

user489041I need a regular expression to help me make a match in my string. This is the line that contains the info that I need: <td width="140" height="18"><a href="users_folders.cfm?viewfolder=86&viewsub=20207&addSub=20202" class="folderNav"><strong>087690898</strong><...

someone trying to figure out HTML with regex
you'd think people would learn?
@MrAnubis wrong way to look at answering questions.
 
@sbi No, I meant, if I wanted to write my own LR parser generator, not a generator generator.
 
@TonyTheLion was just kidding :) I mostly learn from reading others answer here
 
7:29 PM
but I would never ever attempt to implement or execute any algorithm without the aid of a compiler and reference material and test cases
 
0
Q: How do I configure NetBeans to only step through C++ code that I've written

Mr_and_Mrs_DSo it is the exact same question as How do I configure NetBeans to only step through Java code that I've written, just for C++. And no the answer there does not apply. So my question is : how do I step through C++ code without having to be very careful avoiding the standard library functions...

is this even possible?
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Voted to close as a dupe of the epic regex/HTML question.
 
@sbi yep me too now
Complex* plus(Complex* another);
ugh
whatever happened to operator+
 
or std::complex, for that matter
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Is already defined for built-ins, hence not usable for pointers. Of course, adding pointers like this very likely is silly, and probably shows that whoever wrote this didn't even know enough C++ to use references...
 
7:34 PM
also, I was in the middle of my examination and I realized that I might just have to develop a new parsing algorithm similar to LR but not quite
a kind of half-way between LR and LL
 
@sbi yea I don't think he meant to do it for pointers, but for the actual object itself
@DeadMG meh, I still don't quite understand these LR and LL algos
 
the problem with LR is that it effectively is implemented by goto
which means that if you want a readable, maintainable parser out the other side, then it's not going to happen
in addition, it makes a real mess for semantic actions
perhaps the ideal would be closer to something like ANTLR
LL-style, but with additions to cover more common non-LLable cases
 
pff that parsing stuff is complex
how do you bend your mind around that shit?
 
eh, it's not hard at all
 
Xeo
I kinda wonder if putting my pudding on the outer windowsill was a good idea. -14°C
 
7:43 PM
rofl
 
Xeo
Okay, it atleast partly froze.
 
so what is a terminal in parsing theory?
 
Xeo
Something that cannot be reduced further IIRC
 
a token, basically
 
Xeo
A fundamental part of the language, so to say. Like ; in C++
 
7:45 PM
ah ok
and a nonterminal?
 
Xeo
Everything else?
 
something that cannot be parsed?
 
a rule that describes how the terminals fit together
 
sbi
Since there were some doubts whether the picture I posted this morning was genuine:
 
gives new meaning to "snowmobile" huh
 
sbi
7:48 PM
Yeah, I know, same source for the picture. But that would be two photoshopped pix of the same motif.
@DeadMG Actually I think this is ice. (It's easier to see on the pic I posted this morning.)
 
@sbi Same principle.
 
can somewone help me convert an O(n) function into an O(1) ? :)
 
what does the function do?
 
closed as duplicate removes all answers?stackoverflow.com/questions/9166045/…
@renatofernandes probably not
 
sbi
@MooingDuck Click on the one this was closed as a dupe of.
 
7:51 PM
@sbi heh, whoops
 
haha stroupstroups vector VS list example
 
sbi
@renatofernandes A bit more seriously: Implement it as a template meta-program. :)
 
@MooingDuck aww thanks anyway :)
 
@sbi you can see how I got confused :D
 
theoretical CS arguments are wrong in this case
 
7:52 PM
ask the question there and post link>?
 
@renatofernandes maybe you should ask us the question
 
alrite
@MooingDuck you remember the list file's ?
 
sbi
@renatofernandes Has someone already pointed out the newbie hints, linked from the right-hand panel?
 
@renatofernandes nope
 
Xeo
@renatofernandes Remove all code. There, O(1)
 
7:54 PM
it's easier to write a fast algorithm that does not produce the correct results than a slow one that does
 
@Xeo pft, declare that it only works for up to 4.29b elements. Then it's O(1)
 
@MooingDuck lol
 
@DeadMG that even transforms a bubblesort into O(1)! (not sure about bozosort)
 
dude, try sleepsort
 
@DeadMG what the? That's genius! How does it get each f in parallel? Is that related to the & shift?
 
7:59 PM
dunno, I don't know bash or whatever it's written in
but it is several hundred thousand grades of hilariously awesome
 

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