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@Unihedro Cool, you nominated yourself!
!>apiquota
 
@ProgramFOX 9732
 
 
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Sam
8:11 AM
Morning!
 
8:26 AM
Morning @Sam!
 
welp
My consecutive days got borked at 99 this weekend...
 
Sam
Aww xD
Are you going to nominate yourself for the elections?
 
No, my SO activity and rep is too low to be considered imo.
 
Sam
True. So if you did have more rep/time, would you?
 
8:33 AM
yes
 
Sam
Well, I guess there's always next year.
 
yeah, true
Haha, silly CodeProject spammers, bad idea to take my article to post spam in the comments... xD
 
Sam
:D
The new "candidate score" stat isn't great imho. Seeing as half the marks are awarded for rep (if you have enough, that is).
 
yeah, I agree that rep should have less weight
 
Sam
Yeah, perhaps that should've included helpful flag count as well.
 
8:40 AM
agreed
 
9:07 AM
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hmm...
it looks correct
 
9:20 AM
Are guys around that can migrate questions to other SE communities?
 
Sam
@user2084795 Depends on the question.
 
Bitcoin question. ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29477569/use-self-compiled-openssl-to-compile-bitcoin-on-fedora-21 )
May be better stacked into bitcoin SE?
 
As normal users, we cannot migrate it there. You'll need a moderator for that.
 
@user2084795 Check bitcoin.SE guidelines.
> Ask about...

Specific issues with Bitcoin and other crypto-currencies
Real problems or questions that you’ve encountered

Don't ask about...

Anything not directly related to bitcoin
Questions that are primarily opinion-based
Questions with too many possible answers or that would require an extremely long answer
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX I thought we had the power to migrate Qs to only a set of 5 other sites?
Under the "This question belongs on another site in the Stack Exchange network" close reason.
 
9:25 AM
@Sam True, but Bitcoin is not in the list. "We cannot migrate it there"
 
Sam
True.
 
9:49 AM
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Sam
@Pro Quick Q, do have a personal preference of default parameters vs. constructor overloads?
 
Umm...just a bit of sidebar topic here: as I was typing this post (most of the way through), a weird unicorn graphic showed up on the right side of the page and, like MS Clippy, asked me if I wanted help parsing XML, and then sent me here: stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/… When I came back to my post to take a screenshot of the unicorn, it was gone. Somebody please tell me that wasn't a hallucination. Somebody? Anybody? Hello? — Sam Apr 2 '12 at 2:11
 
Sam
@Unihedro Kinda; it could do with an edit to remove all that noise.
 
@Sam If I do not have to support old .NET versions, I go for default parameters; less code to do the same thing.
 
Sam
@Unihedro lol
@ProgramFOX k, makes sense.
I assume old == .NET 1.1/2.0?
 
10:01 AM
 
Sam
Cool.
 
Interesting.
 
> Within minutes, there were over 60 users playing the game on Stack Overflow.

[picture of stack egg]

And then Stack Overflow went down.
My favorite part.
 
Sam
lol xD
 
@Sam I'm currently working on something which you may find interesting for Pham ;)
 
Sam
10:08 AM
Oh?
 
A "Gibberish Classifier"
 
Sam
Don't tell me, PoS taggers (at least partially)?
 
it should be able to find out whether something is actually valid, or just randomly typed on a keyboard
 
:O
dfjkllg djaghfhjrdghjrtgoli jtgirj fikjrtgket jhrk;ryg
 
Sam
:O
 
10:10 AM
@Sam PoS? I don't think it is
@Unihedro Hm, has a score of 48%... that should be higher xD
 
Sam
It sounds great, but what's the underlining principle of the code?
 
It checks some stuff like vowels/consonants ratio, amount of unique chars in a chunk of a specified length, etc.
 
Sam
Oic.
I'm guessing this is all in Python?
 
No, C#. But when it's ready, I'll also translate it to Python for Smokey.
 
Sam
\o/
When it's ready I'll probably incorporate it into Gham.
 
10:13 AM
Yeah, that was my intention, to be able to use it in SmokeDetector and Pham/Gham.
 
Sam
Yeah.
Speaking of which, I'll start work on the Yam system now.
 
I'm starting to prefer YAML over JSON more. :p
It's so pretty.
 
Alright, I got @Uni's message up to 60% :P
 
asddsdf dsfsd ds dsf sfds iooiu yuiyi8 ty tr eqw er lolol
 
10:21 AM
51%...
 
qwertyuioplkjhgfdsazxcvbnm
 
... that borked the program.
oh, something went wrong when pasting
 
Sam
lol
 
@Unihedro 97%
 
\o/
I'm so tempted to create a challenge on codewars for this. xD It's an interesting one.
 
10:24 AM
:D
I believe this tool can catch some of the gibberish that Smokey's repeated word/char regex doesn't catch.
 
{
  "proper_sentences": [
    "Stack Overflow is a great site.",
    "The pattern /<[^>]>/ does not match all HTML tags.",
    "it may be Difficult to judge Sentences with IMPROPER casing"
  ],
  "random": [
    "qwertyuiopfghjkcvbnm",
    "asdfa df gf adf dsh thf h",
    "1a b sabc sfm 1avz"
  ]
}
 
It's not yet optimized for short sentences -- your first one gives 30%.
 
Eh, here's YAML. It's easier to copy and paste.
proper_sentences:
  - Stack Overflow is a great site.
  - The pattern /<[^>]>/ does not match all HTML tags.
  - it may be Difficult to judge Sentences with IMPROPER casing
random:
  - qwertyuiopfghjkcvbnm
  - asdfa df gf adf dsh thf h
  - 1a b sabc sfm 1avz
 
The "random" sentences give a pretty high score as expected, but the proper sentences are too short to get below 30%.
 
lol
WHAT DID YOU FIGURE OUT?! WHAT DID YOU SEE?! http://t.co/CHpa2udSvo
 
10:50 AM
Current results:
- Stack Overflow is a great site. -> 24%
- The pattern /<[^>]>/ does not match all HTML tags. -> 59%
- it may be Difficult to judge Sentences with IMPROPER casing -> 28%
- qwertyuiopfghjkcvbnm -> 97%
- asdfa df gf adf dsh thf h -> 90%
- 1a b sabc sfm 1avz -> 58%
 
Sam
Not bad.
 
It looks like getting something like 10% is hard. It's either 0% or higher than 20%.
 
The one with a regex pattern did lift as I expect :p
 
Perhaps I should use something else than Math.Log10 to calculate the final results.
 
Sam
How about that: HuHE IjGGuds hjGIIHJ 976aui82ggs s shhwu xo
 
10:52 AM
0%... -_-
 
GG
 
Sam
xD
 
How about 1111111111111111111111111111?
I mean, the entire line, not just the 1's.
 
Entire line is 89%, only the 1's is 65%. Weird result.
 
... wow
 
10:56 AM
I could add a dictionary check for better results, but I want it to work fine without a dictionary, too.
 
in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat, 40 secs ago, by Unihedro
I got six questions in the comment section of my nomination post. I feel cared. :p
@ProgramFOX It's possible to predict if a word is a valid word.
For example, an overabundance of vowels.
 
Right, I can still implement per-word checking.
I'm off for lunch now, cya!
 
Sam
Cya
 
I'm in pure speculation (I actually haven't seen the code you've written yet), but judging how you measure its capabilities, does it need to search deeper than the current shallow approach?
Seeya
in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat, 2 mins ago, by Unihedro
I got six questions in the comment section of my nomination post. I feel cared. :p
 
Sam
@Unihedro Rhythm.
xD
 
11:04 AM
@Sam That too.
 
Sam
The first Yam test should be ready within an hour :D
 
> I see that you're from "Earth, Alpha Centauri", very interesting location. Good luck :) – Maroun Maroun 4 mins ago
 
Sam
11:47 AM
lol
 
returns
 
return User.getByName("ProgramFOX");
 
Sam
sees Fox return and says "wb" Wb.
 
Sorry, thought of just that :p
 
Sam
11:58 AM
@Pro I was thinking, it might be an idea to try to create an algo that checks each word against a few "basic rules of spelling".
 
Like?
There might be many with exceptions.
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX There are, it's just a simple mater of picking the ones with the least exceptions (hence why I said "Basic").
 
Let's look up some rules...
 
Sam
http://homepage.smc.edu/reading_lab/basic_spelling_rules.htm
http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/spelling-and-word-lists/spelling-rules.html
 
I suddenly want to build a bot that learns from behavioral analysis.
That would be fun..
 
12:03 PM
I guess I can do the U follows Q and the S does not follow X...
 
Sam
@Unihedro Sounds like google
You could also increase the score if the word has a capital in the middle of a word.
 
indeed
 
@Sam My isEmpty variable prematurely returns 0 even though lengthOfInternalArray has LENGTH > 0.
 
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Sam
@Unihedro Those are nouns, which can be stripped out if Fox uses a PoS tagger. Or, he could try to re-add the spaces to separate the words again.
 
12:07 PM
@Sam welp, I'm not going to make it too complicated.
 
Sam
xD
 
1 hour ago, by Unihedro
I'm in pure speculation (I actually haven't seen the code you've written yet), but judging how you measure its capabilities, does it need to search deeper than the current shallow approach?
^ I guess that's a no then? :)
 
What do you mean by searching "deeper"?
 
Sam
... searching "deeper" into the mysteries of life.
 
@ProgramFOX deep analysis vs shallow analysis
 
12:10 PM
Hmm... IDK, I guess I'll just do whatever comes to my mind :p
I've also found out a problem with the basic spelling checking: in case a word does not contain Q or S, what would the spell check method return? Not having any misspellings does not mean that it should suddenly return 0%.
 
Anonymous
 
@Joiner everyone does
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Well, we're trying to figure out if the "words" are valid, so if the word happens to follow x rules then it must have a higher chance of being valid.
 
Martijn is already popular among the community; They do as a moderator, lead by example, and all that good stuff; A diamond is almost guaranteed :p
 
@Sam Have a higher chance, indeed, but what if the spelling rules cannot be verified? If a word does not contain any of Q, U, S and X, the super-basic spelling rules cannot be checked. Then returning 0% because it contains "no spelling errors" can be totally inaccurate for a word like "jklmllzefi".
 
12:15 PM
ququwouiruewhdfsjhfsjkfvdfn,fgjghgd
 
^ that too
 
Anonymous
he referenced his effort in moderating the community, NOT answering its questions
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Which is why the rules need to be backed up, simply having just 2 basic rules isn't enough.
 
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Anonymous
consider my message as a tip for you
 
12:17 PM
@Joiner who me?
 
Sam
Oh.
I've just had an idea!
 
I can check the uppercase/lowercase ratio, too.
 
Sam
Ages ago, I added an experimental feature to Pham, for spell checking.
That may finally be of use.
 
Anonymous
@Unihedro yes
 
in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat, 15 hours ago, by Unihedro
I don't have campaigns. I have no vote grabs. I am a simple person. :P
 
Sam
12:19 PM
@Unihedro Which is what I respect. ;)
 
@Sam How did it work?
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Just looking for the source now...
I vaguely remember it using the built-in spell checking thing from the TextBox UI element.
 
Aw, doesn't look like a good cross-platform way.
 
Sam
:/
 
yeah, I know :/
 
Sam
12:25 PM
350 commits to search through... I'm doomed.
Hmm, well there's still the NLP option >:D
 
@Sam Welcome to the world with regex.
 
Sam
Which I'm pretty sure is cross-platform.
 
@Sam I've got that up to 23%.
 
Sam
@Unihedro Even with regex, I still can't search the individual files for each commit.
 
argh, valid sentences without caps get now 25% :/
 
12:30 PM
2 hours ago, by Unihedro
proper_sentences:
  - Stack Overflow is a great site.
  - The pattern /<[^>]>/ does not match all HTML tags.
  - it may be Difficult to judge Sentences with IMPROPER casing
random:
  - qwertyuiopfghjkcvbnm
  - asdfa df gf adf dsh thf h
  - 1a b sabc sfm 1avz
 
Sam
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW ABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUT THIIIIIIIIIIIIIS?
 
97% :D
 
Sam
:D
And: kslgbkjgbhskfrgsk?
 
um, I already disabled the caps checker
@Sam 65% without caps checking
and 73% with caps checking
Pretty low score for no vowels.
 
Sam
Ok, so >50% seems like a positive classification.
 
12:34 PM
yup
 
Sam
@Wolf Welcome to the Tavern.
 
Hiya @Wolfwyrd!
 
Sam
afk
 
cya!
 
~lurk=true
 
12:36 PM
argh, the sentence with the regex pattern is still higher than 50%
 
That's what I believe your parser needs to implement - a tiny perspective of tolerance
 
yeah
but too much tolerance leads to lower scores for gibberish
 
If a sentence makes sense, I suppose most of it would be in comprehensible form, with only a small portion in !#^%&&%&*(.
 
the regex leads to a higher amount of unique chars, higher than usual
But so far, the results are pretty good for a first version :D
 
If it doesn't work yet call it version 1.0.
 
12:45 PM
Hey, Lichess supports 1337 as a language! :D
 
:O
ZOMG
I love how the menu button is now near the profile button. Feels more natural.
OMG YOU CAN HIT ESCAPE FOR IT NOW
Did I ever say how much I love freehand controls? xD
 
Sam
returns
 
wb!
 
Sam
Thx!
 
12:51 PM
Welcome back!
 
Sam
Thanks!
I'm gonna fire up my PoS tagger and see what I get...
 
Sam
1:07 PM
Stack Overflow is a great site. --> NNP NNP VBZ DT JJ NN (Good)
The pattern /<[^>]>/ does not match all HTML tags. --> DT NN FW FW FW FW FW FW FW FW VBZ RB VB DT NNP NNS (Okish)
it may be Difficult to judge Sentences with IMPROPER casing -->PRP MD VB JJ TO VB NNS IN NNP VBG (Good)
qwertyuiopfghjkcvbnm --> NN (Bad)
asdfa df gf adf dsh thf h --> FW FW FW FW FW FW FW (Good)
1a b sabc sfm 1avz --> JJ NN FW FW FW (Okish)
There.
WHAT THE HECK
 
rofl
 
Sam
Did you guys see that? :o
 
no
 
Sam
... >_>
Ok, that was weird.
 
@Sam Well... my application gives better results for the 5th :P
 
Sam
1:09 PM
@ProgramFOX The 5th was correctly classified.
The (Good) means it has correctly classified the text.
 
oh okay
I thought it was classified as "good"
 
Sam
The (Bad) means it failed to classified it properly.
@ProgramFOX Yeah, I thought that might cause some confusion.
85
A: Java Stanford NLP: Part of Speech labels?

annoThe Penn Treebank Project. Look at the Part-of-speech tagging ps. JJ is adjective. NNS is noun, plural. VBP is verb present tense. RB is adverb. That's for english. For chinese, it's the Penn Chinese Treebank. And for german it's the NEGRA corpus. CC Coordinating conjunction CD Cardin...

^ There's a list of what each abbreviation means if you're interested.
 
nice
 
Sam
So, as a whole, the tagger is alright by itself.
But it does need a bit of help for some cases.
 
Trying to make my application more tolerant gives lower scores for the bad sentences, it seems...
 
Sam
1:13 PM
Hmm.
 
Sam
1:24 PM
Ha ha, very funny. :p
 
haha, yeah, the easter egg :p
 
Sam
 
there are some easter eggs on other sites too, btw
 
Sam
Nice, what like?
 
oh my god, what did I show up to?
 
1:27 PM
48
A: What Easter Eggs do the chat sites have?

PopsMeta Stack Exchange/(any room): red tags Send a message consisting solely of [status-SOME_PLAINTEXT_STRING] and it will appear in chat like a moderator tag. Doing this as a reply to another message is okay, but other text or formatting will not work. The plaintext string cannot be longer than 50...

 
Sam
@gunr2171 It gets even worse lol
@ProgramFOX ah
 
Anonymous
<(?:"[^"]*"['"]*|'[^']*'['"]*|[^'">])+>
 
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A: Look for Nested XML tag with Regex

UnihedroI hope you are ready for parsing XML with regex. First of all, let's define what XML tags would look like! <tag_name␣(optional space (then whatever that doesnt end with "/"))>(whatever)</␣(optional space)tag_name> <tag_name␣(optional space)/> To match one of these tags we can then use the f...

Try mine. You'll probably get more zalgo quicklier.
<([^ \>]++) ?[^>]*+>(.*?(?:<([^ \>]++) ?[^>]*+>(?:[^<]*+|(?2))<\/ ?\3>|<[^ \/>]++ ?\/>).*?)<\/ ?\1>
 
<([^ \>]++) ?[^>]*+>(.*?(?:<([^ \>]++) ?[^>]*+>(?:[^<]*+|(?2))<\/ ?\3>|<[^ \/>]++ ?\/>).*?)<\/ ?\1>
 
Sam
<([^ \>]++) ?[^>]*+>(.*?(?:<([^ \>]++) ?[^>]*+>(?:[^<]*+|(?2))<\/ ?\3>|<[^ \/>]++ ?\/>).*?)<\/ ?\1>
 
Anonymous
1:31 PM
<([^ \>]++) ?[^>]*+>(.*?(?:<([^ \>]++) ?[^>]*+>(?:[^<]*+|(?2))<\/ ?\3>|<[^ \/>]++ ?\/>).*?)<\/ ?\1>
 
Sam
It won't stop xD
 
1:47 PM
Enjoying the holiday - playing games atm :p
 
Sam
xD
 
And IntelliJ wants to be updated but I already updated it a week ago :[
 
Sam
lol, same thing with all of VS's extension.
Behold...
 
2:04 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Recovered from ConnectionError during API request
 
@ProgramFOX ^^
 
@gunr2171 Nothing to worry about, it recovered
 
ok, just something I haven't seen before
 
sometimes an API request fails, that's all
 
Anonymous
2:18 PM
@Unihedro mineplex private server :D
 
Anonymous
are you legend ?
 
Good for minigames. I'm an admin of a few.
@Joiner My alt is legend, my main account isn't.
 
Anonymous
@Sam can i use User.JoinRoom() multiple times ?
 
Sam
@Joiner Yes, but you can't join a room you're already in.
 
Anonymous
will Room.Leave() be auto-called when the app ends ?
 
Sam
2:21 PM
Nope, you have to call that yourself.
Only .Dispose() is called upon the object's destruction.
 
Anonymous
then closing and reopening the app quickly won't connect to the room again ?
 
Sam
No, because the socket(s) would've been closed before the app closes.
 
Anonymous
can i instantiate the User class multiple times for the same account ?
 
Sam
Nope, that'll thrown an exception IIRC.
Nvm. I found the code snippet.
if (RequestManager.Cookies.ContainsKey(cookieKey)) { throw new Exception("Can not create duplicate instances of the same user."); }
 
Should there be a space between Can and not?
 
Sam
2:27 PM
So yeah, only one instance of Client per account.
 
Anonymous
@ProgramFOX no, you say "cannot"
 
Anonymous
@Sam until the app ends ?
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX It's not compulsory.
 
@Sam Oh okay.
 
Sam
@Joiner Yes, or until you dispose of the other Client object.
 
2:28 PM
I wondered because you code says "Can not" :)
 
Sam
Yeah, it's just personal preference (most of the time). ;)
@Join Just out of curiosity, why would you want to create multiple instances of the same account?
 
@Sam ... to use?
Not sure if C# allows this, but in Java we'd create a wrapper of the original instance.
 
Sam
Well I mean, it just seems like an anti-pattern imo.
@Unihedro A wrapper? How so?
 
public Clazz_ extends Clazz {
  private Clazz clazz = [0];
  Clazz_(0) {[0] = 0}
  public mtd()::clazz.mtd()
  ...
}
 
Anonymous
you've seen the old code... it was contained in a module...
i'm trying to "classify" it: my goal is to be able to create a new bot with few lines of code
so i'm creating the "Chat" class...
 
Sam
2:42 PM
wonders what the extends keyword does
 
Anonymous
inheritance
 
Sam
I see.
 
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Anonymous
 
Anonymous
^ i'm loving it
 
Anonymous
2:57 PM
@Sam i made it "shared" to avoid multiple instances
 
Sam
Ok
(Even though I can't remember what that does.)
 
@Sam shared == static
 
Sam
Oh, gotcha.
 
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3:28 PM
ugh, Python translation of my gibberish classifier gives different results than my C# one...
Oh, fixed, forgot to do * 100 somewhere.
 
Sam
Is it open source yet?
 
no, not yet, I'll first write something about it on CodeProject
 
Sam
k
 
then I'll push to GH
 
4:03 PM
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looks correct
 
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4:32 PM
Tabs? We as a site prefer tabs??
 
Sam
ikr
 
Yeah, apparently. doesn't understand why
 
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5:32 PM
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5:58 PM
@Unihedro This was my previous job
 
rofl
 
except the first panel never happened
or the second, or the third
there was no official "resistance"
 
hello
 
oh hi
 
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8:29 PM
both of those are fine
 
Sam
lol
 
I agree with the PHP one
 
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