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8:19 AM
Morning!
!>apiquota
 
@ProgramFOX 9673
 
great
 
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very minor, but looks OK
 
 
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pretty minor, but I think it's correct
 
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pretty useless edit
I edited it
 
10:01 AM
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OP approved
 
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looks OK
 
10:52 AM
After influencing some people in the Maid Cafe, some chat API libraries were added to the mentions of meta.anime.stackexchange.com/q/1166!
 
cool
 
I should do something productive now.
Monthly summary has arrived.
> 6 hours 49 minutes

Projects:
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Anonymous
@Unihedro bounty period has ended stackoverflow.com/q/29310871/3453226
 
@Joiner meh
> This question has an open bounty and cannot be closed.
 
Anonymous
wut ?
 
Sam
11:25 AM
Afternoon
 
'fter
 
Sam
@Unihedro Cool.
 
11:44 AM
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@Sam Hiya!
 
Sam
Hiya!
 
Hiya
 
12:41 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Edit by anonymous user approved with 1 (or more) rejection vote(s): 1792246
 
hm
Code changes, but I think it's correct.
 
it's probably ok
oh, @ProgramFOX, are you able to stop the bot, if needed?
running on my system?
 
no, I'm not yet in the owners list
 
how do I add you?
 
messing with pickle syntax :p
I will add a command for that.
 
12:50 PM
(dp0
S'stackoverflow.com'
p1
(lp2
I1043380
as.
that's what I have so far
and no, I have no idea what pickle format is
 
working on a !>addowner command
 
ok
that compression
 
1:11 PM
Alright, @gunr2171, can you pull please?
 
pulling...
!>stop
 
err... wait, I forgot one thing
 
waiting...
 
@gunr2171 done
you can pull again
 
EditMonitor started.
 
1:14 PM
!>addowner 2619912
 
oops
I forgot to do proper argument checking
@gunr2171 you need two args
I'll first fix this
 
ok
 
@gunr2171 fixed
 
pulling again
!>stop
 
stop wouldn't work
because it crashed already
 
1:16 PM
yup, i see the errors already
 
instead, do Ctrl+C on your terminal, because this exception happened in another thread
 
yup, doing that
 
EditMonitor started.
 
!>stop
ok, that worked
well, sort of
the process didn't end
oh wait, there it goes
 
EditMonitor started.
 
1:18 PM
ok, so what do I type for the new command?
 
@gunr2171 Yeah, it first waits until it's ready processing edits in the queue, then it exits. At bot startup, there are ~20 items in the queue, so some waiting there.
@gunr2171 !>addowner stackoverflow.com 2619912
 
!>addowner stackoverflow.com 2619912
 
hum
 
> WebSocketConnectionClosedException: Connection is already closed.
 
ugh, web sockets
 
1:20 PM
and some other stuff
 
a restart should be enough here
 
the bot?
 
yep
after a Ctrl+C
 
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^ slightly better title, meh
 
1:21 PM
!>amiowner
... did I just kill it?
 
the owners.txt file has not changed
!>apiquota
 
what's the error @gunr2171?
 
yup, another connection exception
 
eugh
 
hold on, it's really hard to copy text from this terminal
Exception in thread Thread-1:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 810, in __bootstrap_inner
    self.run()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 763, in run
    self.__target(*self.__args, **self.__kwargs)
  File "/home/kevin/code/so-editmonitor/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 637, in _runner
    a = self.ws.recv()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/websocket/_core.py", line 747, in recv
    opcode, data = self.recv_data()
 
1:23 PM
I've never had that error
wait, let me try...
 
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!>amiowner
 
Sam
Quick Q @gunr, would it be beneficial if I added async methods to CE.Net?
 
hmm...
 
hum, maybe Sam.
 
1:25 PM
!>apiquota
 
let me look over the cv bot code for a second
 
I get closed web sockets too...
 
Sam
Sure thing.
 
@Unihedro yes, very yes
 
1:26 PM
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!>apiquota
 
@ProgramFOX 9997
 
!>amiowner
 
@ProgramFOX Yes, you are an owner.
 
!>amiowner
 
1:27 PM
@Unihedro No, you are not an owner.
 
@gunr2171 Before you restart, I'll first implement a check that you don't add a duplicate owner.
 
ok
 
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Sam
!>amiowner
 
@Sam No, you are not an owner.
 
Sam
1:28 PM
!>canihavepizza
 
!>addowner stackoverflow 2619912
 
@ProgramFOX User is already owner.
 
alright
@gunr2171 you can pull and restart now :)
!>stop
 
already up to date?
 
oops, no
I forgot to push
@gunr2171 now it is
 
1:30 PM
EditMonitor started.
 
!>amiowner
 
@gunr2171 Yes, you are an owner.
 
!>amiawesome
 
!>amiowner
 
@ProgramFOX No, you are not an owner.
 
1:31 PM
!>addowner stackoverflow.com 2619912
 
@gunr2171 New owner added
 
thanks
!>amiowner
 
@ProgramFOX Yes, you are an owner.
 
Sam
@Unihedro I just knew that had to come up at some point xD
 
woot!
 
1:31 PM
\o/
 
!>amiowner
 
@Unihedro No, you are not an owner.
 
:[
 
:[]
 
!>addowner 3622940
 
1:32 PM
@ProgramFOX 2 arguments expected. Syntax: !>addowner host id
 
lol, you forgot your own command :)
 
ouch, own syntax bites me
 
Sam
lol
 
It made me giggle. xD
 
!>addowner stackoverflow 3622940
 
1:33 PM
@ProgramFOX New owner added
 
Yay!
!>help
 
!>addowner stackoverflow.com 2246344
 
@ProgramFOX New owner added
 
I made @Sam owner too
 
Sam
Thx fox.
 
1:35 PM
good, so now I don't feel as bad about taking the bot away from you
 
:D
!>help
 
Sam
:D
 
don't feel bad about it, it's nice to have the bot around 24/7 :)
 
good,
 
What do you do with it?
 
1:36 PM
which brings me to @Sam
next step is to get the cv bot working on linux
 
Sam
Ah, that'll be fun.
 
You know what I just noticed? xD
 
it almost worked
 
If discussions like these actually happens on Stack Apps, their chat room wouldn't be as dead.
 
Sam
... but?
 
1:36 PM
last I tried (about a month ago) it was some problems with SSL certificates
 
Sam
@Unihedro True (tbh, I kinda forgot that room existed).
 

 Stack Apps

API, Apps,Scripts, and Libraries that work on Stack Exchange s...
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Sam
@gunr2171 Then don't use ssl?
 
I think that's for logging in
 
Sam
Oh.
Well lemme create a new branch and I'll fiddle around...
 
1:38 PM
I'll see if I can run it again, get some exact error messages
 
Sam
k
 
ah wait, I can't compile it :( have to wait till later to run it again
(on linux)
 
Sam
I'll boot my VM (ubuntu) and see what I get...
 
the first thing it will probably complain about is ssl certificates. there is a way to import all of firefox's certs, I just need to find the command
 
When should I get a proper avatar?
 
1:44 PM
for Stack Overflow?
 
Sam
Do you know which login (CE.Net, or the SEDE thingy) might be causing the probs?
@Unihedro Your current one looks fine.
 
@Sam ok
 
Sam
Unless, ofc, you don't like it.
 
@Sam if I remember it was something in CE.Net. Hold on, I'm downloading the code and trying to compile here, then FTP-ing it to the server
 
!>apiquota
 
1:45 PM
@ProgramFOX 9547
 
Sam
Kk
 
Well, it's very cheesy, it's just a simple derived version of a random pixel figure :p
 
ack! downloading as a zip doesn't give you submodules as well?
 
But I agree, it's stuck
 
I'm considering changing my name to be my actual name
problem is there is already a "Kevin" in the cv room
which would cause a lot of problems
 
1:48 PM
J. Kevin
 
Sam
@Unihedro You could do what I did. ;)
 
What's wrong with gunr2171?
 
it's old
 
The pixel figure isn't even the head of my Minecraft character :p
 
Sam
... okay. So Uni's avatar is just a pixelised head of some random guy.
Good to know xD
 
1:52 PM
Minus the hat, yeah...
 
Out of all avatars here, mine is the only one that can be found in 42 quintillion permutations. :P
 
rofl :p
 
Sam
lol
 
@Sam Nice, your CP article has 5k+ views!
 
Sam
:O
 
1:55 PM
What's CP?
 
@Unihedro CodeProject
 
Cool!
 
Sam
I should really write up more articles :/
 
I'm currently working on one.
 
Sam
Nice, what's it about?
 
2:00 PM
I built an application that fetches the latest questions from the API every minute and shows a balloon every time there's a new question.
 
you know, next year for April Fools day I should write up a lengthy and well researched meta post about burning the javascript tag, and the leading argument would be "drop that and use jquery".
 
@gunr2171 that's kinda done already
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Q: Merge [javascript] and [jquery] tags

IQAndreasThere is often confusion among beginners. Most of the time, when they ask a JavaScript question, what they really want is JQuery. In fact, every problem can be solved with JQuery. We should make javascript a synonym of jquery and merge the two.

 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Cool :D
 
ah :(
 
2:24 PM
5 hours to the start of the moderator elections
 
Sam
the suspense builds...
 
@user5061 VTC off-topic > why doesn't it work
 
Agreed :) And got "disputed" for it...
 
really?
I'll help it along
 
2:27 PM
Yep. stackoverflow.com/review/triage/7587357 This is the triage, dont know how to link the disputed flag thingy.
 
what did you flag as?
 
@user5061 A VTC-flag cannot be disputed. did you flag it as VLQ?
 
I dont think it was VLQ, no way.
 
@Unihedro I thought it could if it was handled by the community rather than a mod
 
Must have been "why isnt this code working" or.. too broad.
Dont remember.
 
2:29 PM
well, it's closed now
 
(unless of course i accidentally clicked something adjacent, but i doubt it)
 
it seems rene is lurking in MSE tavern
@user5061 I wouldn't worry about it. A "disputed" is not a declined.
 
Yeah its still one bad number!!! :P
Oh well, guess it happens.
 
and if you run into this again, you can come here, or the CV review room
 
@gunr2171 Haven't seen rene around here in a while, they must be busy
 
2:32 PM
I also had another flag disputed today... about stackoverflow.com/review/triage/7586076 Flagged is too broad, got disputed, gets locked as too broad later on.
I guess posting in MSE would be redundant, since it is closed, right?
Posting about wrongfully disputed or declined flags should be reserved when i get an unjust ban, or..?
 
(I'm not sure about this) but I think the reason it was disputed was because of the 3 "should be improved" votes. then it got closed later on
yeah, i'm not sure about this one
I still think the line between "should be improved" and "unsalvageable" in the triage queue is very unclear.
 
One last thing.. what do i do with questions like this? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29470933/why-is-the-ndim-value-of-the-matrix-different-from-the-matrix-rank

User doesnt know the difference between matrix rank and dimensions, and forms a useless question, that cant be improved.
 
I know nothing about python, but when I see that post I would say "good enough to not get closed"
there is one CV already for "too broad"
could be closed as "typo" if that can be proven
 
Matrix rank is related to math.. a similar example would be asking: "Why does my cat not bark as it should?" :P
 
You are confusing two different properties of matrices. The dimension and the rank.

The dimension is equal to the number of indices. e.g. a scalar has the dimension 0, a vector has the dimension 1, a common 2D matrix, like the one you gave, has the dimension 2.
does that not give a good answer?
 
2:43 PM
Yes, but the question is terrible. I think it should be removed since the only way someone would find it useful, is if he doesnt know what matrix rank is; ... at all.
 
hum, I see what you mean. Remember there are 2 different aspects to a post: how useful it is, and if it should be accepted on the site (closed). I don't think that it should be closed (except maybe as typo), but I do think it should be downvoted as "not helpful".
ok, here's another example @user5061
5
A: If and else error with double C#

gunr2171Let's walk through how this would function. An if statement needs a "condition", a true or false. It can't be anything else; the end result must be one of those options. Also, because of "order of operations", the expression is evaluated from left to right. So we start with this expression: 3 <...

 
hahahaa -13 havent seen that before :D
 
the question clearly has the wrong view of how the syntax works, and it's downvoted to -13
but I still provided a good explaination for why it would work
 
You are probably right. I just wanted to see it removed since it was useless, posted by a 1 rep user that didnt even bother reading the SO tour (or that has multiple accounts).
 
true. I would want that post gone, but it did attract good answers, so that's something worth keeping
that's why we auto-delete -1 posts after 30 days that have no answers
 
Sam
2:53 PM
Speaking of questions and such, I've just noticed my Q almost has a score of 200 xD
@user5061 Try thinking of SO as a library of coding knowledge.
 
OH GOD IS THAT POINTERS IN C#!!!?!?!?!?
 
Sam
Lol, yeah.
Didn't you know? :o
 
I know you can do it, I just don't want to
c++ touched me in bad ways :(
 
Sam
Oh, xD
 
oh look, you're at 200
 
Sam
2:57 PM
I wonder how that happened :D
 
oh @Sam, I forgot to answer you for the "async" methods
most of the cv bot code right now is not async. the only async thing about it is right when you recive a new message, which dumps it off to a new thread to process. Everything after that (downstream) is sync.
 
Sam
Right, so probably not worth the effort.
 
for now at least
 
Sam
k
Well feel free to ping me if/when it's needed (or anything else).
 
yup
!>apiquota
 
3:09 PM
@gunr2171 9514
 
3:19 PM
I'll code till I drop. Then I'll sleep. Sounds good? :D
 
Uni.Sleep(1000)
 
Wait, new video from my favorite channel.
 
Sam
@Unihedro Hmm, depends which language. ;D
 
going to guess it's TomSka, is probably dead wrong
 
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3:23 PM
minor but correct
 
agreed
 
3:46 PM
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NOPE
should have rejected and edited, rather than edit and approve
 
true
 
4:14 PM
@Sam ^
 
Sam
:D
I'll check it out.
Whoa, that's a big article o_o
 
lol, ikr
 
Sam
+1 for using WPF
 
there is much stuff in there - the helper classes, the tracker, the UI...
 
Sam
Yeah
Btw, JsonFx is generally faster at deserialising data.
 
4:22 PM
The API samples used JSON.NET, hence my choice
 
Sam
Oh, kk.
 
!>apiquota
 
@ProgramFOX 9484
 
tired
like really tired
night
 
Night!
 
4:30 PM
night!
 
Sam
Night!
 
:)
 
haha, I have 147147 rep on CP
Hopefully the database doesn't think "hey, we repeat things" and drop it down to 147 :p
 
Sam
lol xD
 
Sam
4:45 PM
... so, it has come to this.
Spent 3 hours setting up my VM, installing Mono, etc.
And just as I go to launch my test code, the entire system crashes.
 
:/
your system, or only the VM?
 
Sam
Just the VM, thankfully.
 
phew
 
lols, nice
 
VMs get unresponsive sometimes, but they usually come back after a while.
@Sam What VM software do you use?
 
Sam
4:48 PM
VirtualBox.
 
I use VMWare.
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Yeah, I was going to leave it for the next <time period> and play games or somethin'.
@ProgramFOX Free or paid?
 
free
I don't really need the paid features, free always worked fine for me
Speaking about VMs, I'm going to update my Windows 10 build.
 
Sam
Hmm, I might switch.
 
hmm... no, wait, that took hours last time - I'll do that tomorrow
 
Sam
4:51 PM
Tbh, I should've booted straight from the disk rather than using a VM.
 
For Linux?
 
Sam
Yup, Ubuntu.
 
What's wrong with a VM?
 
Sam
Well, obviously all my resources are now spilt between my OS and the VM, so not only does it slow my environment, but also the VM is "hard" to work with.
 
If you use VMWare with the VMWare Tools installed on the guest, you can share the clipboard and even copy files between the two systems.
 
Sam
4:55 PM
Yeah, you can do the same with VirtualBox, but you've gotta install something else.
 
Yeah, VirtualBox Guest Additions
 
Sam
Yup. Not that I've ever bothered with it though.
R.I.P.
I'll restart the tests tomorrow.
 
 
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I think we set a record for closest "require comments with downvotes" requests today
about 5 minutes by my count
 
6:42 PM
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looks good
 
7:04 PM
/elections/6 soon to begin nomination phase!!!
 
 
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8:27 PM
@Unihedro good luck
 
I'm surprisingly sane for a person staying up at 4am
3
 
Sam
Heh, I bet up get up late too though.
Anyways, you've got my vote ;)
 
@Unihedro I want to see that phrase in the next round of the elections
 
 
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