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7:46 AM
Morning!
 
 
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10:00 AM
> Microsoft needs more information to try to solve 33 problems
All caused by my own programs when they crashed :p
 
11:00 AM
Hi
 
how are you @ProgramFox
 
I'm fine, thanks! And you?
 
fine,thanks :)
Do you know the function of adapters in IoC Containers?
 
I've never worked with IoC, I'm sorry.
 
11:12 AM
ok, no problem thanks
 
12:02 PM
test
 
(testing for a chatbot I'm making for this room)
 
test
 
12:15 PM
oh what are features of this?
 
It will monitor recent suggested edits. When it comes across an approved edit with two rejection votes, the bot will post a notification here.
The first version should be ready, let's launch it!
 
I am wondering the results :)
 
me too
 
Hiya!
 
EditMonitor started.
 
12:18 PM
oh, wait, I should still give the bot my API key
grr... shuts down the bot
 
good luck @FOX9000 :)
 
hey
 
So @Pro, while Sam isn't watching, shall we add [bots] to the tags of the room?
 
sure, why not?
we all love bots here :D
 
12:20 PM
:D
added tags to room topic:
 
EditMonitor started.
 
okay, API key given
 
-8
Q: HOW TO INSERT TIME IN ORACLE SQL DATABASE USING SYSDATE FUNTION IN HH24:MI:SS FORMAT

Arpit ShahI HAS A SEPARATE COLUMN FOR TIME IN MT DATABASE AND I WANT THE TIME ONLY IN FORMAT HH24:MI:SS BY USING SYSDATE FUNCTION SO THAT I DO NOT HAVE TO MANUALLY INSERT THE TIME. PLEASE GIVE ME THE INSERT QUERY FOR GETTING SUCH TASK.MY COLUMN DATATYPE IS SET AS 'DATE'.

"I HAS SEPARATE COLUMN"
 
I hope I don't get request-throttled despite the delay times I've added :p
 
Where do you run the bot?
 
12:23 PM
on my computer
I don't have a server to run it on, so it runs client-side
 
home server duh
 
Oh ok. Well who knows a cloud server hosted with Free Tier.
 
Free Tier sucks.
 
@Unihedro Nah, only you have one of these.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka Do you know what a home server is?
 
12:24 PM
(Wait, Googling)
A home server is a server located in a private residence providing services to other devices inside or outside the household through a home network or the Internet. Such services may include file and printer serving, media center serving, web serving (on the network or Internet), web caching, account authentication and backup services. Because of the relatively low number of computers on a typical home network, a home server commonly does not require significant computing power and can be implemented with a re-purposed, older computer, or a plug computer. An uninterruptible power supply is sometimes...
Yeah, it's what I thought. Fox doesn't have one of these.
 
By using a browser, you're already starting a home server, capable of running a kernal to operate the OS of some description and it's managing your cookies to selectively use when communicating with the router to render your webpage!
 
welp, I forgot to add some stuff to an array, leading to my bot sending too many requests
goes to fix
 
(That also applies to when you install some kind of game to run it, your computer is its own "home-tier" server that manages the platform required to run the game, as well as to render and accept user controls.)
(Anything that makes your computer run for any continuous session implies server uptime, where the device (the computer) is a major component (or all) of the server.)
 
@Unihedro That's another story. The games LAN home-tier is a home server, I didn't disagree.
 
That's not another story. Read the wikipedia article.
 
12:30 PM
IRC and XMPP connections are home servers, but web browsers performing AJAX and using cookies weren't mentioned.
 
Come again?
@Gabriel: Since when is a web browser not a software? What does home servers even have to do with IRC and XMPP connections?
> By using a browser, you're already starting a home server,
Welp, this is constructive.
 
Okay, I think I fixed the list things.
 
@Unihedro But don't forget: [...] in a private residence providing services to other devices [...]
 
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Nice :)
 
12:37 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka Is managing cookies to selectively use when communicating with the router not a service? Is your monitor not a device?
Or, alternatively, maybe the entire kernal does nothing at all.
 
@Unihedro That varies on the definition, but okay I surrender on the Wikipedia's definition a web browser is a home server.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka A web browser is software. A machine instance running software starts a home server.
15 mins ago, by Unihedro
@GabrielTomitsuka Do you know what a home server is?
 
Now I'm eagerly waiting for for an approved edit with 2 rejection votes...
 
Um, should we try to forge such an event?
I could submit a (probably great) edit with TUC, then we can both reject it, and wait for it to get approved.
 
@Unihedro Nah, I was surrendering. Think whatever you want.
 
12:42 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka "Think whatever you want"? That's like ignoring the entire definition and saying yellow is a flavor for ice cream like orange is.
 
@Uni I'm first going to debug it. Perhaps I misinterpret Microsoft Network Monitor, or perhaps my bot still sends more requests than necessary.
 
kk
Regardless, I don't know why you find interest in defending random points you make up, but showing off ignorance isn't something productive to do.
 
The Monitor shows a 90-second pause (as expected), but when it's busy sending request, I see lots of things. Perhaps that's correct, but I want to be sure about it.
 
Do you run instances of Fiddler?
 
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12:44 PM
(assuming Windows)
 
@Unihedro Fiddler?
 
telerik.com/fiddler http debugging
Records traffic of all network instances over HTTP on your local machine(s).
 
EditMonitor started.
 
oh, cool
no, I'm just running Microsoft Network Monitor
 
Oh.
 
12:46 PM
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C# from scratch, or running on ChatExchange?
 
... and I have to go for lunch
 
(or C# on CE.net?)
 
@Unihedro WTF? A home server is a server located in a private residence providing services to other devices inside or outside the household through a home network or the Internet. And that's it.
 
@Unihedro Python, because cross-platform
will continue debugging after lunch, cya!
 
12:47 PM
seeya
@Pro for when you return: Is there a debugging unit for ChatExchange?
@GabrielTomitsuka That's how precise Wikipedia is, that leaves no room for misinterpretation.
There are even all the inline links you will ever like to citate on everything within.
 
1:16 PM
I'm back.
@Unihedro A unit?
 
import
um
Never mind messed it up with something else sorry :D
 
oh, okay, lol
now going on to debugging
 
EditMonitor started.
 
Fun!
 
> len(queue): 75
for the first fetch
so far, everything looks good
... nooooo D:
The approve/reject votes is not in the HTML, it's fetched with an AJAX request.
 
1:25 PM
Sigh.
See, this is why you should experiment and BUILD SPECS before writing code :)
 
1:36 PM
Well... I experimented, but I did that using Firefox's DOM Inspector without looking at the actual source :P
So I'm now going to try to figure out what requests I have to do.
Oh well, so you have to log in to be able to see who approved/rejected an edit :(
So, steps to do for the bot:

1. Find a way to log in.
2. Get super seekrit SE fkey.
3. Fetch the review item (I found the AJAX, yay!).
 
1:59 PM
Actually... if I'm already logged in to chat, then I should be able to use that login to fetch stuff from SO.
:D :D
I can simply use CE for this task!
I think, anyway, because I could fetch the fkey.
 
:p
 
2:20 PM
Eugh, now I get an error when fetching the review.
argh, these one-letter variables in SO's JS are hard to follow
I should pass "taskTypeId"...
whatever that might be
"1" seems to be for suggested edits...
IT WORKS! I GOT THE DATA!!!! :D :D :D
@Uni ^
 
:O
 
Thanks, Manishearth :D
 
Hip hip hooray! Now we can power fox9k!
 
no, now I should put the code at the right locations, because it's now quite a mess :p
 
lol :D
 
2:42 PM
Okay, it should be fine now. famous last words
 
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... that didn't take long, a crash xD
oh, forgot .headers, easy fix
 
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y u crash again?
oh, I didn't disallow redirects
should be fixed
 
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2:46 PM
ಠ_ಠ crash due to a typo
 
O_o
 
EditMonitor started.
 
Okay, no crash yet :P
 
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733192
 
\o/
@FOX9000 Ahem, I voted to approve that!
@Uni ^ It works :)
 
2:48 PM
:O
 
Now, if it reports that again, then something's wrong. If it does not, then it works :)
 
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733245
 
woohoo!
 
This is awesome!
 
That's an attempt to reply -- rollback?
@Unihedro Does Fiddler show how many kb/s or kb/m I use? Because that's something I'd like to know.
 
2:55 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733192
 
I'm not sure, I don't do a lot with fiddler.
 
@FOX9000 err... you already reported that
okay, debugging time :D
I already had the feeling that it was slowing down my network -- if it sends this much requests, then...
 
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EditMonitor started.
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733192
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733245
 
those two again, lol
 
yeah, but that's normal, because now I restarted
Also installing Fiddler right now
 
ugh, why did I suddenly get an SSLError?
Debugging like this isn't easy.
... weird, I'm suddenly getting SSLErrors everywhere.
Ouch, it's Fiddler who messes up my requests.
 
:O
I think you can disable that.
 
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[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733192
 
and again
 
3:20 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733245
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733245
 
hrm
It. Should. Not. Post. That. Again.
not difficult that it sends many requests
 
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733192
 
Ouch! @Uni I think I found it... I never clear the queue!
 
...
aww
 
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3:35 PM
fixed
Or would I need a global keyword there?
I don't know, I'll just add it to be sure.
 
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@Sam ^ I created a bot that monitors recent suggested edits and posts an alert in chat when it comes across an approved edit with 2 rejection votes.
Network traffic is of course highly reduced now I clear the queue :P
 
Sam
4:05 PM
@ProgramFOX Awesome. :D
 
Going to add an >>apiquota command to the bot.
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX lol
 
@Sam :D
 
Sam
Was this, by any chance, to help boost the room's daily traffic? ;)
 
Heh, that was one of the goals, though not the main one.
 
Sam
4:06 PM
Wait, you're using the API?
xD
 
@Sam Kinda. I fetch the IDs of the latest suggested edits using the API, and then I scrape the other data from the pages.
 
Sam
I see.
 
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>>apiquota
 
@ProgramFOX 9911
 
Sam
4:12 PM
+1
 
Sam
xD
afk
 
cya
 
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733291
 
oh, interesting
And edited.
 
4:22 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1733312
 
>>apiquota
 
@ProgramFOX 9907
 
 
2 hours later…
6:10 PM
no more of such edits, it seems
 
 
2 hours later…
7:49 PM
Got to go now, shutting down EditMonitor.
 

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