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1:06 PM
 
izzat from michael's PR?
 
user4202350
Hey Again
 
@Vogel612 Nope.
 
@ShaU Stop flagging messages that ARE appropriate
 
1:12 PM
@HamZa Well hello again, and sorry for the disturbance. Would you like a timeout ticket?
 
fge
@ShaU stop behaving like a spoiled brat and people may change their opinion of you
 
@HamZa Long time
 
> You cannot counterflag your own message
lulz
 
:o
 
Hey room. It's been a while :D
 
1:13 PM
oh dear the police is showing up...
 
Hello PHP goddess!
 
I've been coding crappy android code lately :)
 
Yes it has been :-P
 
fge
@HamZa well, there's hope... At least you realize that the code is crappy :p
 
Crappy Android Guess he really like PhP
 
1:14 PM
@ItachiUchiha Hey, PHP isn't that bad.
 
user4202350
@HamZa Welcome to my Java Room
 
At least it doesn't have BuilderBuilderFactory.
Also, I've had enough, so he got booted.
 
@uni i just like to curse It :p
BulilderBuilderFactory ? Lame Name
 
@ItachiUchiha I didn't say Android code is crappy. My Android code is crappy since I had no idea what I was doing: following articles/tutorials here and there and mix it all together as long as it works :P
@ShaU thanks
 
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user4202350
1:17 PM
@HamZa I got kicked for saying that.
 
@ShaU you're still here so I don't see how you got kicked
 
Haha.. My heart goes out to you bruh!!
 
3 mins ago, by Unihedro
Also, I've had enough, so he got booted.
 
@Unihedro you can kick users now O_O?
 
@HamZa I own this place. :p (hint: italic name)
 
1:18 PM
lol
 
Meh, inb4 "how should we handle friendly chat behaviour that mimics trolling"
 
@Unihedro Wow, I knew you were an owner but I didn't know you could kick an user :P
 
no no... inb4 "How should we handle room owners that can't 'take a joke'"
 
user4202350
^^^^
 
user4202350
@Vogel612 +1
 
1:20 PM
 
see??
what the heck is the last thing for?
 
@Vogel612 It's for activating the soft scrap flag on a bot.
stolen from:
 
now if you could explain what the soft scrap flag is ~me clueless
 
Oh, don't worry about it.
 
user4202350
I have just joined Yoga classes because of UNI
 
1:23 PM
dammit ShaU (T.T)
 
@ShaU chat.SO and its participants are free from warranty, both implicit or explicitly stated, related to the joining of classes of any kind or purchases of books.
Get with the times, man.
 
@ShaU What?? Why because of Uni ?
I mean Yoga classes because of UNI , Fuck! Doesn't make any sense.
 
Sense is overrated.
 
user4202350
I need Inner Peace.
 
Except, you know, when you need it.
 
1:26 PM
lol ShaU
 
@ShaU then go to you Yoga class will ya?
 
fge
@ShaU again, stop behaving like a spoiled brat; this is really not an appropriate behavior for this room
There may be chats on the internet where such behavior is accepted; just not here
On FreeNode's ##java you'd have gotten a permban a loooong time ago, believe me
 
@fge I wish I have a permabanhammer.
Oh Stack Overflow gods, give me power!
wonders if Bohemian will appear suddenly; that will make a dramatic plot twist
 
They don't have a perm Banner in SO
Can the moderators permban someone from A Room?
 
@ItachiUchiha I guess it will be from ALL rooms
 
1:31 PM
@ItachiUchiha They can, however, chat-suspend.
 
fge
@Unihedro botConfig.when(ChatEvents.userJoins(someId)).thenDo(ChatActions::kick) :p
 
No SO chat. Worst nightmare!!
 
@fge Can't do that without getting a smite from BoltClock.
A high number of kicks is reported to all online moderators, so boots must be handed carefulishly. :p
But I totally think we should do that. Let's (code and) ship it!
 
Haha
 
hehehhe
 
fge
1:34 PM
Sure, code it... But test it as well
Meh
 
You could also put this room in gallery mode
 
fge
(my proposal for testing help still stands)
 
@hamza there are a lot of newbies who come for Help AND we dont have enough room Owners
 
I think the JS room did it IIRC
 
@HamZa Yeah, I've only seen other rooms do it under dire pressure though. AKA help vamp invasion...
 
1:36 PM
@ItachiUchiha There was a bot that was allowing everyone. If it was your first time, it would point you to the room rules
 
@fge Any Good Tutorial for TDD?
 
Hi
 
@ItachiUchiha Time Division Duplexing? :D
 
fge
@ItachiUchiha I don't see the relationship between room ownership and helping people...
 
First kick is 5 min, followed by 30 mins, and 24 hours; I think two kicks are usually OK
@fge cleaning up the miscellaneous crap inbetween.
 
fge
1:37 PM
@ItachiUchiha on the net, haven't found any, really; I learned it all from this book
(which I recommend to all Java devs -- they may switch away from JUnit and that'd be another win)
 
@fge if the room is moved To gallery mode, everyone who visits the room wud need a Access Permission from the owner to post anything
 
@ItachiUchiha the bot should handle that
 
fge
@ItachiUchiha I'm serious; buy this book (the TestNG version please; JUnit must die)
 
Let me remind you that users of chat.SO are free from warranty from advising purchases of books.
 
(Need To Save money) T_T
 
fge
1:44 PM
I never recommend books lightly :p
This book really is that good
 
I need to buy the other book as well, by brian
Life is hard because everything has a price
 
Recalls of the 9gag pic about employed programmers vs unemployed programmers.
Jan 1 at 10:55, by ItachiUchiha
user image
 
fge
Eh, I hope I'll soon be on the left side
 
Amen!
But don't be very sad!!
 
@fge Be careful what you wish for. You might actually get it ;)
 
1:50 PM
Haha
 
user4202350
BAN is Temporary Knowledge is Permanent.
 
Hi anyone want to assist me on a maths problem in my application? It relates to converting pitch readings to degree values.
 
2:09 PM
haha cool picture from 9 gag :) @Unihedro
 
2:49 PM
Hi everyone...
Replication question again... i think this is not vendor specific..
1. I have many machines, with the same database definitions...
2. I have a master machine that also has the same definition, this is where the data of the slave machines (machines referred in #1) would be replicated..
now the question is, how do i differentiate from the Master machine the data coming from say, Machine A, from Machine B when their data have been replicated on the Master
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
boom
sorry.. was that foul.
 
oh, i just realized, its kinda forcing.. this is an open chat. everyone can on their own will should answer
 
2:55 PM
Hi. Anyone use glassfish+ldap?
 
right
 
@LeeJeong You have two ways: 1. Flag the values that are being passed. "flagging" a data with mapping and simple weak references may do, and for relevant use cases, link metadata within the objects so they recognize which machine they belong.
2. Dry run.
 
3:15 PM
hello people,
 
Afternoon
 
here is a Java Swing question: How do I add a jtable created at run time?
 
@Giovanrich By adding as if it was not created at runtime?
 
sorry, adding a jtable to a panel created at run time.
 
@Giovanrich Just do that?
Dynamic-ness does not change how you manipulate with things: Get from source (or spawn them from thin air) and then call the relevant methods.
 
3:19 PM
its confusing me, but i posted the question on the forum
 
Today my dislike of the banking industry hit an all time high. One of the swiss banks just offer my friend a ludicrus amount of money to work for them, just as he was about to sign a contract with the company I work for. I am jealous and sad :-/ (and happy for him)
I don't really have that much of a problem with the banking industry, just seemed like a good opener.
 
@Mourdos I feel so sorry for you. I hate the commercial culture and people faking and mocking each other for money.
 
what i want is that a user would be able to create multiple panels after clicking new file button- a panel would appear with a table where the user can input data- this should be possible the next time the user hits the new file button
 
@Giovanrich Sounds like you have a design problem. Write the best code for the job.
Or rather, consider having the GUI observe a data set to update at frequencies instead of trying to force an update.
 
I'm just glad I hadn't given notice to my landlord (which I was planning to do today). He was going to be moving from Finland to the UK for the job, and so we were finding a two bed place. Instead, to Switzerland he goes.
Now I have to go actually recruit someone. Argh.
 
3:25 PM
@Unihedro how can I post the link to the question in the forum
 
Aww. Best of luck!
@Giovanrich By... Copying and pasting?
 
@Mourdos You dislike banking industry for the financial work, or you even don't wanna code for them as well?
 
@Unihedro may that woul d help
 
4 mins ago, by Mourdos
I don't really have that much of a problem with the banking industry, just seemed like a good opener.
 
@ItachiUchiha I dislike them because they stole him just as he was about to come work for us :P
 
3:26 PM
Infer meanings from postscripts, it's simple conversation, man. :P
 
@Mourdos Don't worry
 
Wait, hold on. Stack Overflow is not a forum.
 
okay, noted
 
56
Q: Is Stack Overflow a forum?

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM AI was under the impression that Stack Overflow was a forum, or a forum-like object. And if it is not a forum: Why isn't it? What defines a forum?

 
3:27 PM
@Unihedro No... not the... 'F' word!
shudders
 
*orum.
 
Can I just have the **rum?
 
Unnecessary censorship 2015
 
@Unihedro did you see the link
 
3:30 PM
"I cannot add my JTable to every panel created at run time" It really sounds like the app. should have one table, no tabs, and 3 buttons for the 3 actions. Failing that, use the same TableModel in any number of JTable components. — Andrew Thompson 37 mins ago
^ that was what came to mind as well
 
okay, but how do i use the same table model in any number of panel created on the fly?
 
3:46 PM
@Unihedro Hello, Could you tell me why the group count here is 0 for input Demo Test
` Pattern p=Pattern.compile("[^\\W_]+");

Scanner s=new Scanner(System.in);
String st=s.nextLine();
s.close();

Matcher m=p.matcher(st);

System.out.println("Group count is "+m.groupCount());
`
 
@JavaTechnical Because it has no groups.
 
But when we do like this..
while(m.find())
{
System.out.println("The group is "+m.group());
}
We are able to print them.
 
@JavaTechnical That has nothing to do with a group.
 
Is there a direct way to get do this instead of looping.
like, if I want first word, then group(1);
for second word, group(2);
 
You cannot predict how many groups there are in a match.
God, you know what regex is, right?
Anyway, as a reminder: The regex engine has the left pointer and the right pointer, where your input string is matched with the pattern.
Your matcher has a groupCount of zero because you have no groups within the pattern itself.
If you don't want an explicit loop, you can use Streams from the matcher, but it makes the performance worse than looping.
 
3:54 PM
Sometimes when I'm not feeling all that competent, I go read the questions on SO. Often cheers me up.
 
@Unihedro thanks~! :)
 
Whenever I read the questions on Stack Overflow, I fall into an infinite loop.
sees crap -> closes questions
 ^                  |
 |                  V
lots of time <- OP yells at me
wasted justifying
my acts
 
Ugh. Not feeling it today. Have to write a spec for a contracting firm and learn how Apache Ofbiz works.
 
its ok. you take us idiots/ignorants to a step closer to maturity.. :P
 
That feeling when a company moves from having people who manage contractors to having their own developer. That is what I am feeling
 
fge
4:01 PM
People keep starring json-schema-validator and json-patch
But not grappa :(
 
<- one step forward two steps backwards
#advancement
 
@Unihedro I put up some notes...
 
fge
4:21 PM
agrees with the "brittle" comments
Also, why create an ImmutableMap each time? Just make it private static final
 
@fge Good idea as well.
I wanted a semi-oneliner, so.
 
fge
Short code is not necessarily faster :p
 
I used to have a HashMap map = new HashMap; map.put, map.put, map.
That's also not necessarily faster :p
 
Wait, you mean to say that codegolf isn't about making code go faster? Isn't that why we write it all in red?!?
 
@Mourdos Nope.
 
4:32 PM
xD
 
Code golf is about writing the shortest, most unreadable code, that has no direct influence with performance.
 
I know what codegolf is :-)
 
The argument can go that script engines can take less time in IO from reading shorter code, but that 1. does not apply to compiled languages 2. is a terrible argument and shows a lack of compilers and script language theory.
 
We actually had an instance of someone posting an answer in Worldbuilding that suggested asking a question in codegolf as part of the answer. He actually posed the question in codegolf.
So we have an answer to a question raised on another site as part of an answer.
The original question being about how you would stop people accessing SE.
 
:P
Worldbuilding is too advanced for my liking.
 
4:36 PM
It did grow that way quickly.
I was very active on the meta, early on in the beta, but I was always more interested in the idea of the site than the questions posed.
 
5:12 PM
Morning
 
Morning!
 
Morning
 
What's up?
 
fge
Coding (how surprising!)
 
slacking off from coding.
 
5:14 PM
I'm soon gonna join in on that :P
 
Not coding (surprising)
 
Not the slacking, thé coding
 
fge
And wondering how on Earth I managed to gain 240 rep yesterday and already 197 today
 
Hey I have company!
 
You have company yet you're on the chat?
 
5:15 PM
No, I'm just not in the mood for coding or writing specs at the moment. And I go home in 15 minutes.
 
fge
@Gemtastic he has company on chat
 
I think I'm possibly the company
 
Never mind, I do not have company.
inb4 forever alone joke
 
Hi, just looking to be pointed in the right direction. I'm trying to package up and deploy a multi-module Maven project. Three of the child modules need to be packaged up as standalone JARs. I also want to keep the src/main/resources/config directory outside of the JARs so that I can have a different set of properties files for production. Is maven assembly the right tool for this? Any good resources or tools I should be using?
 
gradle?
 
fge
5:17 PM
@Unihedro don't forget you have pam4j as a work item, and if that doesn't motivate you I have plenty of other stuff :p
 
Oh yeah!
:p
 
fge
<-- regrets to have come to programming so late
 
<-- regrets to spend lots of nights programming instead of sleeping
 
Heys
 
<--- regrets having this teacher for this course
 
5:18 PM
hi
 
Hey everyone hows it goin?
 
inb4 uni attacks about schools
 
user4202350
@Nezam Great.
 
@Nezam Typical. You?
 
<-- regrets getting happy about offering a job to a friend who then gets offer a lot more by another client just before he signs. Was looking forward to him a a college.
 
5:19 PM
Fine..
Ran into a very typical issue
 
It's not the school as much as this particular teacher. They are hired only for one class
 
i am calculating utc offset.. but i do not know the offset is ahead or behind of utc
 
Oh, speaking about schools I might actually expand my institution possession to take university.
 
<-- Regrets not dropping out of college and becoming a pear farmer :(
 
I learned that many local schools here have funds dedicated to helping students self-learning. ;)
 
5:21 PM
TimeZone tz = TimeZone.getDefault();
Date now = new Date();

int offsetFromUtc = tz.getOffset(now.getTime()) / 1000; // seconds
String _strOffsetFromUtc = String.valueOf(offsetFromUtc);
 
@Unihedro that's nice
 
So I can actually sign up a form and get funding to support whatever I do in the name of learning.
(the only motive for uni to take university...)
And that may or may not be getting a server farm to play with. :D
hint: it's really not
 
Tonight have to decide if I want to starve, or if I want to go shop >_>
 
pfff that's easy...
takeout!
 
@bcoughlan Nothing delivers to this village
 
5:23 PM
anyone wanna help me.. and earn a bunch of thanks?
 
I want thanks, but maths are hard.
 
Also, passed 22:00 nothing's open, and I just woke up. There's no way I can get any food at 3 in the morning here :/
 
cow! It's Java!
 
@Gemtastic Make ramen :)
You can warm them in microwave
<-- has several boxes of ramen noodles prepared for late-night coding since no stores will be open ever
 
@Gemtastic what's in the cupboard?
 
5:26 PM
@bcoughlan Tea. I have a bunch of tea because I got it for christmas.
 
Congrats!
Milk tea is yummy.
 
@Unihedro I love ramen, it's just that I don't have any D;
 
Aww :(
 
@Unihedro The milk expired two days ago >_>
 
eurgh
 
5:26 PM
Series of unfortunate events.
I'm so sorry. :/
 
That's it??? Tea???
 
user4202350
@Gemtastic Why are alone?
 
Surely you have something else
 
erm you mean stuff like a desk and a chair?
 
food man!
 
5:31 PM
@bcoughlan I have frozen dogfood
 
We should fundraise for good food for Gem.
 
user4202350
@Unihedro No I mEan Girfreind
 
It doesn't matter if I have a lover or not, because there's still no food, and I won't eat human flesh
 
user4202350
@Gemtastic No i mean she can prepare food
 
fge
@Gemtastic it's not even 7pm; just go buy food
 
5:34 PM
@fge It's 3 am at her place.
 
fge
Eh? No
 
Goooood morning from Sunny California all
 
@ShaU No, noone can prepare food because there isn't any.
 
fge
Sweden is in the same timezone as I
 
5:34 PM
Hello @Unihedro @Gemtastic @fge
 
Whatever. Night! Ping me if you need anything, I'll have the sounds off, so I can deal with anything when I'm back to consciousness.
 
I'm deciding if I'm gonna starve or not.
 
Oh hi @Kylar!
 
fge
@Gemtastic then just go buy food
 
When and why did you migrate from Unihedron->Unihedro?
 
fge
5:35 PM
Starving is never the good solution
 
@fge I'm still deciding.
 
fge
Hi @Kylar
Well, I have decided for you
 
@kylar hello there :)
 
fge
Go. Buy. Food. Now.
 
@Kylar For Spring, I want my 'n' back.
 
5:36 PM
/me waves his magic wand (actually a hockey stick) over Unihedro.
BY THE POWER OF CANADA! I GRANT YOU AN 'N'.
 
Also... I just got terrible news... The company my school hired to teach for this course and the next one are breaching their contract and makes us have the same teacher in the next course as well D;
 
user4202350
Good News
 
I suppose next course is gonna be called "databases and and magic"
 
@Gemtastic Well you could learn on your own and teach your teacher who's boss :p
Wanna know something obscure?
 
Databases are kind of "grey" magic.. dark magic, but not blood-death-destruction-going-to-hell magic
 
5:39 PM
@Unihedro That's kinda what I'm gonna do. I'm wondering if it's even worth showing up to class. >_>
 
He just doesn't stop with being inappropriate, does he?
I gave him a little kick-ban
30 mins should be enough
 
Beat me to it.
 
:)
 
@Kylar As long as I can learn the spells and know what they do I'm good. But if he's gonna "teach" like he's done in this course, I'm better of reading a book
 
Be careful with the third, three kicks from a room in 24 hours = mods drop in to investigate
 
5:40 PM
I don't think we'll have too many problems.
 
fge
@Gemtastic learn by yourself
 
and I have no problem with having a discussion with the mods, should it be necessary
 
fge
It's a very good school
 
If he gets kicked three times it's probably about time the mods look into the on who got kicked...
 
@Gemtastic I've often found that school is less about getting good teaching than it is about forcing you to do something on a timeframe that you wouldn't always do in the past
once there's money on the line, you're much more motivated to learn the material on your own. And frankly, the real world is pretty much like that: "Here's a vague description and some pointers. Go figure it out yourself."
In a lot of ways, they're teaching you real-world skilks
 
5:42 PM
@fge That's probably what I'll do. I don't wanna sit through hours of "Wait, I gotta see why my code isn't working" from that teacher again. Hours I could have spent reading and coding
 
Skillz, even.
I need coffee and a muffin.
BRB
 
fge
<-- self taught in all things computing; didn't have a choice
 
@ShaU: Stack Exchange is a professional site where everyone is expected to behave. You should learn by example and not keep on with unwelcomed behaviour that over a grand total of 12!!! of our users. Seriously, don't expect the site to change for you. If you are not used to professional and enthusiast sites, you can read up on The Help Center.
That is my last warning™.
 
fge
@Unihedro (s)he's not here at the moment
 
@Kylar I actually kinda need a teacher. I'm bad at finding where to get the information and what to actually learn. I like the two-way communication you can have with a teacher. But you people have been so kind to me here that I've learned a lot more than I did in school.
 
5:44 PM
@fge Pings are inbox-transitioning.
 
fge
hides; hasn't really been kind
Meh, I did have two "pupils" but both of them dropped
And java7-fs-more needs work :p
 
@Gemtastic I learn 90% of what I know from online. The rest are socializing skills.
Integral calculus, systems administration, I doubt schools are at all effective.
 
I can agree though with that a lot of people need the kick in the butt that school gives you.
I could have studied on my own, but school is currently my livelihood.
 
fge
@Unihedro sometimes a book can teach you a lot more than hours spent online, you know
I've had the case twice already
First JCIP, then the TestNG/mockito book
 
@fge I wouldn't know, I only really get a book when I really absolutely have to. Like JCIP and regex cookbook by jeffrey.
 
fge
5:47 PM
I learned more from then in a mere matter of days than what I could gather from months of web surfing
 
Often (but not always) you get what you pay for.
 
I digress - WHITE BACKGROUNDS and having to physically turn pages
 
fge
@Unihedro sorry to say it bluntly, but you're being shortsighted there
 
Meh. I wouldn't know, I don't get lots of books.
 
fge
Well, go buy that book about unit testing I mentioned earlier (there are "mobile" versions as well)
 
5:49 PM
The bookstores here don't sell much related to programming. Or technology for that matter.
 
fge
I can guarantee you: you won't regret it one bit
It's worth its "weight" in gold (the paperback version is)
 
Ok! I probably need it, my test-fu is mediocre :)
 
fge
Heh, it is thanks to that particular book that I'm at ease with writing testable code :p
 
I'll trust you on the words, sounds promising :p
Hey free shipping!
 
free shipping is nice :)
 
5:51 PM
'Practical Unit Testing with TestNG and Mockito' right?
 
fge
Yes, that's the one
 
@Gemtastic Yup, not that I mind the shipping fees, but it really does take a lot when you live where I am
 
Well, I say, anything free is always nicer than when it's not
 
fge
(I see that my review of it on Amazon still is the top one...
 
I rated it as helpful.
 
fge
5:57 PM
Since then however some tools have evolved
For instance, instead of fest-assert I use assertj
But mockito is The King(tm) of mocking libraries
 
@Gemtastic I totally understand the need to have a more experienced person to get feedback from - ESPECIALLY early on when you're still trying to get over the language hump (learn the basics of syntax and tooling).
 
I wonder what will be The Next Big Thing in unit testing tools
 
If you're using Objective C, there's a great unit test tool, and a great blog about it at qualitycoding.org
It basically brings mock object structure and unit frameworks to Objective-C
 
@Kylar Yep. Once I'm over that syntaxbump I have no issues to go on learning. But it's the very thing with that the current teacher ISN'T teaching the syntax that made this course and Spring such a hell to me
 
Mmm, native iOS apps
 
5:59 PM
but the blog has lots of useful information about tricks & traps, anti-patterns
 
@ItachiUchiha taught me more in 4 days than I learned in these 6 weeks
 

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