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9:36 AM
Ugh
users.findByName('Awal Garg').ignore();
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Heh, that "ignore" button is awfully close to the "kick-mute" one. It'd be a shame if my mouse slipped.
@Kippie: SSSSSHHHH! :P
 
whoops
 
wth
 
I mean.. It's right there in the javascript room description
 
Y WE NO MERGE ROOMS
 
Because this is a refuge from annoying users in JS
 
9:49 AM
This room pretty much came to life when rlemon (or was it florian?) got tired of the shit in JS
 
what did rlemon (or was it florian) define as shit ?
 
@Cerbrus haha nice cerbrus
 
10:03 AM
@Cerbrus Fixed
 
Fixed?
 
Yeap
 
Oh, he's gone :D
thanks :3
 
@jAndy zigi
and it was rlemon I think
 
What the hell happened tonight?
 
10:10 AM
?
 
Jhawins being banned for a week and moderators very upset
 
oh?
What the hell happened tonight?
 
@FlorianMargaine Topic was this github repo: https://github.com/freebsdgirl/ggautoblocker
It pretty much pulls lists of twitter handles which follow a few #gamergate people, and adds them to a block list.
Indirectly this also ousts them as GG supporters, though this might not always be the case.
@rlemon (half-jokingly) suggested to spam pull-requests to the ignore-list file.

Somebody must've flagged it for moderator review, because 10 hours later moderators came in and got mad about the room being used to organize spam-parties
 
Not sure what exactly jhawins did, but knowing him, he was probably being a dick about something or another.
 
10:44 AM
lo
 
10:55 AM
afaik, moderators were upset for mail- respectively notification bomb somebody
 
11:28 AM
in Vote JavaScript, 14 hours ago, by Jhawins
@Loktar I tweeted dat bish
 
he smacktalked a lot, but I didn't see anything really out of line
 
He said that he could have her fired
 
@BadgerGirl do you know what that all about actually ? who is "she" and why did he get so mad
 
Yeah, there's a girl who made a script to block all users who follow gamer gate stuff on twitter
 
so why do the stack exchange people care about that ?
 
11:34 AM
because it looked like people here were planning to harass her collectively
 
just reading whats this gamergate is all about
this seems like a dark hole opening :P
 
there's a lot of that already going on, people are harassing female developers under the statement that it's for game journalism
apparently it originated in 4chan
 
industry and journalist people are corrupt ? well.. wow
that is really new :P
 
Everything originates in 4chan
@jAndy doesn't mean corruption shouldn't be called out when it's found out
 
Yeah, but tons of people are harassing a girl who made a game they didn't like and got famous
 
11:39 AM
true, but I don't see the huge rumble about this particular case
there have been much more, much worse and much greater things going on
 
and they're claiming that she slept with a reporter to make the game famous
but that's all rumours spread by her ex boyfriend
 
I can't even believe that huge article on wikipedia about gamersgate
like.. lol this was some kind of world war II conspiracy or something
 
and even if she had done it, nobody deserves the kind of treatment she's getting
 
The little I saw, she was kinda feeding the trolls all around... I might be wrong though
 
from my perspective, hearing about that whole topic for the first time it really looks horrible excessive. If people care so much about corruption, they should be all on the streets for the fact whats going on in politics and really important things
so it's just another internet hipster kiddy shitstorm
 
11:46 AM
Extreme feminists are taking this too far as well, the whole thing is ridiculous.
 
Go on the streets?
 
But it might alienate women who want to go into the game industry.
 
They aren't talking about corruption in politics, they're talking about corruption in journalism
 
@BadgerGirl what'd I miss
 
I understand, thats as horrible as in politics, but then again nothing new in general
 
11:48 AM
Jhawins got banned
 
No, but a specific event happened, and people wanted to talk about it
Just because the idea itself isn't new doesn't mean it's absurd to talk about it due to a trigger
 
@FlorianMargaine banned as in kickmuted?
 
Banned
For a week
 
the trigger just seems to unimportant und worthless
 
Mods banned him for a week
 
11:49 AM
@BadgerGirl who and why?
 
if it was about something like.. false media about Iraque and leading people into war
(what happened several times in the past)
this would make more sense
 
@jAndy remember what triggered WWI?
 
yea
thats what I'm saying
its actually shocking a topic like THIS escalates
 
about a female game developer sleeping with a journalst.. wow thats really important for mankind :P
 
11:51 AM
No, it was about Jhawins looking like he wanted to get someone fired.
 
how serious was he ?
 
Maybe not at all
 
WTH is wrong with everyone.
 
in Vote JavaScript, 2 hours ago, by balpha
So if someone wants to chat about JS etc., use this room. If someone wants to be an asshole, go away, and don't poison the room, and by extension Stack Overflow in general.
I think this guy is very nitbitchy himself
acting up like jesus in person and creating ridiculous spontaneous "rules"
 
11:55 AM
I don't think he's nitbitchy
 
I don't like him that much either
 
I don't think they want to deal with these problems.
 
"You just are allowed to talk about js in this room, because I'm saying it, ho ho ho!"
pffttt shut up
 
I don't think he meant it like that
 
That's not what he said.
He did not 'forbid' discussion about other stuff, he just said not to be an asshole and poison this room.
 
11:57 AM
I was exaggerating obv
 
Then again, I don't have context or know what rlemon and jhawins did
 
he should be around more often
I expect him to ban people on regular bases then
 
I am usually around, I was busy :S
@jAndy why?
People in the room are usually decent.
 
because that happens a lot
people being out of line or assholes
 
What happens a lot?
 
11:58 AM
Also - can anyone mind telling me (real slow) what jhawins did?
 
Jhawins tweeted that "bitch"
 
If someone is out of line - let them know.
 
But if Jhawins had got her fired and this issue got famous, it would be really bad for SE that people said it originated here.
 
@SomeGuy he tweeted her? That's probably stupid but how is that out of line?
 
I think they were talking about flooding her inbox because she had a repo about GamerGate they didn't like
@BenjaminGruenbaum No, he literally said, "I tweeted that bitch"
 
Also seems like he talked about getting her fired
 
@SomeGuy I'm not sure how that's out of line... honest
 
I'm nearly as uninformed as you are, though
 
Also - why do we hate that girl? Isn't GamersGate just a bunch of people being idiots and poisonous towards eachother?
 
PERL !
 
12:00 PM
Why would anyone willingly get involved in that?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Pretty much, yes.
I have no idea why they got messed up in it
 
Well, I wonder.
 
I've been avoiding GG for so long
 
@rlemon ?
 
and I was always wondering what "GG" means if players type it at the end of games...
 
12:02 PM
Haha, GG has only recently started to mean GamerGate
 
:P
 
@jAndy good game
 
haha
 
Did you lose?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum thanks for the heads up :P
and yea, double punch
 
12:03 PM
We're discussing it here @Drogo
 
@jAndy @BadgerGirl how far away from each other are you?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum ah ha
 
@DrogoNevets what happened?
 
Was rlemon banned too?
 
I honestly don't know where copy and badgergirl are around in Germany
 
12:04 PM
@BadgerGirl what's your take on all this?
 
if I can believe what Mr. Super Moderator wrote.. lemon was banned too
 
you can easily check that
 
I already have
Found nothin
 
(I thought that was implied in "you can easily check that")
 
Only jhawins is banned
 
12:06 PM
oh?
what for?
 
Yea
 
he is raging in his room right now most likely
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I don't think they were looking to get involved, they just wanted to talk about the repo the way they talk about everything. I don't think any of the comments were serious
 
the mods came in and basically said they were that close to closing down the room
 
uh, why?
 
@BadgerGirl did they actually act on anything?
 
@DrogoNevets: not quite
 
I guess they pinged or notice flood someone..
 
@jAndy Bochum
 
I didn't check, but I don't think so
 
12:07 PM
which was the first thing Mr. Super Moderator was upset about
 
and that we were not to use SO chat to plan, or conspire any form of spamming
 
this is pure bullshit imo
 
in Vote JavaScript, 14 hours ago, by Jhawins
So she will likely get fired as soon as someone has the balls to ping her employer as well :D
 
people are trolling all the time, all day long who to decide which is serious nature and what not
 
@Cerbrus And I want to be pretty clear, I almost shut this room down.
 
12:08 PM
Taken out of context, that (Benjamin's link) is bad...
 
How did balpha and TimPost they learn of this anyway?
 
that was the second message about the whole thing
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum that is a very good question
 
@jAndy they can, this chat is a private system provided by them
 
of course they can, but its completely out of line anyway
if thats the way they are judging.. goodbye me
randomly
 
12:10 PM
They're not judging randomly
 
They could close down the js room for no other reason than "we don't like js"
 
Now hold on, 12 hours later they show up and start showing their muscles, why?
What triggered it?
 
@jAndy: If this is something you want to leave for, good luck finding a "fair" chat service
Flags?
 
@Cerbrus irc
 
Dunno
 
12:11 PM
Someone flagged afaik
 
I just don't see the reason and logic behind this whole escalation
 
geez, conversations like this is why we created this room
 
@Cerbrus miaou
 
Mod flags are something that would have taken less than 12 hours to handle, mods could have taken care of it on their own.
 
just for random lines thrown out by sane people actually
 
12:11 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum: channel owners can do whatever they want there, too.
 
and yes we talk smack all day long
 
@KendallFrey ?
 
Whoops
 
@jAndy because they're not in front of you - something prompted this intervention and we don't know what it is.
 
@FlorianMargaine: wut
 
12:12 PM
@Cerbrus dystroy's server
 
one thing to bare in mind though, is that if they found out there they could find out here too (no it was not me who flagged, and i wont be flagging anyone here either)
 
dystroy hosts an irc channel / server?
 
I don't mind them finding anything here, if I wanted to discuss things privately I would've gone to IRC or miaou
 
@DrogoNevets: Don't be so paranoid, man :P
 
12:13 PM
In fact, if they could let us know what went down it would be really nice.
 
Oh kewl
 
which is probably what we should do anyways (moving to IRC or miaou) if this has no good explanation at all
 
I asked, they wouldn't tell
 
@Cerbrus linkies?
 
@Cerbrus i used to work for GCHQ its bred into me
 
12:14 PM
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in Vote JavaScript, 3 hours ago, by balpha
So anyway, back to your regularly scheduled JavaScript chat, and if you have no idea what the above was about, it's probably for the best ;)
 
was her name mentioned at all? and if so, are the transcript searchable?
 
That's not it.
@DrogoNevets there are links to her repo - and yes.
 
Y'all are making such a fuss about it...
 
^
Not that I'm surprised
It's the ziGi effect...
 
Jhawins banned for a week coz he trash talked, avoid looking like we're conspiring, move on
 
12:16 PM
@Cerbrus so it couldve been her who flagged it, any dev whos worth anything has a stack account
@FlorianMargaine +1
 
I wouldn't really mind some regular gets banned if he did something bad or real out of line, but this just seems so random and unreasonable
 
@FlorianMargaine I'm not conspiring, I wanna know what went down
 
3 mins ago, by Cerbrus
@DrogoNevets: Don't be so paranoid, man :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum some people said stuff, SO were informed some how, SO didnt like, they reacted
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum no, I meant that yesterday, it looked like jhawins and rlemon were conspiring.
 
12:17 PM
oh
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum it did half look like that, if you just read the incriminating messages out of context
 
And mods told us: pls dont do it evar again
 
I don't think they just randomly walked in. I think they got informed by someone, otherwise it would've probably been am od.
 
@FlorianMargaine do what not evar again ?
talking smack ?
 
Conspire
 
12:18 PM
conspire to get someone fired
I guess
It's just - they didn't actually do anything except for Jhawins
 
who did that and how serious was that.. thats where my problem lies
 
Then again - that makes sense
They banned jhawins for the more rough stuff, and they gave rlemon a stern face
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yes, and he's the only one banned
 
I made a simple joke about spamming with PRS
That's it
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum he's his own worst enemy
 
12:19 PM
Apparently that is akin To murder
 
yea like we do all day long for years
 
Hair @rlemon
 
@rlemon \o
 
Did you actually do anything with it?
 
Nope
Made the joke. Moved on
 
12:20 PM
in JavaScript, 3 mins ago, by rlemon
Generally speaking "I'm just trolling" === this is a joke @balpha @TimPost as you can see on the issue I didn't send anything.
 
@rlemon did you sleep well? Some people here would like to have a talk with you. Get your coffee first.
 
"Are you Mr. Lemon? Did you make a joke last night ? ..... Would you come with me Sir?"
 
All I wanna talk about is unicorns...
 
It's a shame,
 
and the fact they fart rainbows, mustnt forget that
 
12:21 PM
Jhawins was always the counter example to "new users who start out bad will stay bad"
Seems like recently he's been involved in a lot of shit
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum he's having a rough time atm, if he is to be beleive, its not an excuse but it might be an explaination
 
@DrogoNevets anyone in irl contact with him?
 
ive got his email somewhere (he sent me his CV)
 
@SterlingArcher is I think
 
@SomeGuy SterlingArcher is afk: thinking about rich women
 
12:22 PM
tlaking of which, anyone in UK want a permie role, we are recruiting again!
 
Permanent
 
permenant, non contractor
 
Keep up, oldie
 
12:23 PM
hehe
 
lol
 
want me to send him an email?
 
I'm here (TipRanks, Israel) for at least another year I think.
 
Hahaha @SomeGuy is the best one to say that :D
@BenjaminGruenbaum you're CTO right?
 
@DrogoNevets it might be nice to send him "is everything ok?" if he really has shit going on he could possibly use help
@FlorianMargaine no, Gilad is our CTO, I got there about a month and a half later.
I get a big degree of autonomy though.
 
12:25 PM
Ok
Do you have shares in the company?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum sent a quick one to touch base
 
Well, I'm not supposed to talk about it but if the company makes a solid exit I think I'll be ok :P
@DrogoNevets ty
 
well there is a UK job, though TBH @BenjaminGruenbaum probably a bit low for you (non-senior)
anyways, im off to lunch! back in an hour
 
12:57 PM
Just a reminder that alternatives exist
 
I don't get why he'd do that.
He's not even a CM, he's a developer -_-
 
as I said, arbitrariness
maybe he is forced to program in php or something
 
1:24 PM
Still, I think they went too far by opening the conversation with "I almost closed down this channel"
literally one of the first things they said, without even clarifying what it was about
 
that balpha guy took things way too personal and too serious obviously
 
Well yeah, he even said so himself:
>I feel strongly about this personally, and if you don't, then you still have to live with the fact that I do.
He feels strongly about it, and we'll just have to suck it up and accept that
 
yea I gave him my 2 cents
hope he read it
 
2:08 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum jHawins seems obvlivious to the fact that his account is suspended
 
I quote, "Oh no.... How did I get suspended for a week?"
 
 
1 hour later…
3:34 PM
Dude, what the fuck did I miss last night?
 
@SterlingArcher jhawins got suspended for a week
Because insulting someone on the internet is a lot worse than exploiting the system and creating a million swastika avatar users.
 
Did he take action?
Did he "tweet to get her fired"?
 
he tweeted her back and forth a couple of times
not spam
 
just look at his twitter
you can find is as quickly as I can :P
I got called out for 'harassment' because I made a joke about her shitty repo
however, no suspension (clearly)
 
3:38 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Wait, who did that?
 
but shaming 15K people... dats cool
 
I honestly don't get why github allows things like this
 
!!tell SterlingArcher youtube lindsey stirling pokemon theme
 
is there a meta on this? This does not warrant a weeks suspension
I'm actually rather upset at this right now
He wasn't even being rude to her
 
3:41 PM
Jhawins isn't debating it
 
Does that mean we shouldn't stick up for him?
I know some of y'all don't like him, but it doesn't look like him or the lemon did anything wrong
(This is a good pokemon cover)
 
I'm just telling you he's spoken to balpha and made it clean he wasn't debating it
 
@Kippie no one important
@SterlingArcher no point in a meta
At the end of the day he was rude, while it doesn't warrant a suspension it wouldn't get a support post very far on meta.se
or meta.so
Right now it's "Oh god why did we have to deal with this BS, we have better stuff to do" ~ SO Staff
Going on meta would make it "Oh god, why do we have to deal with this BS, we have better things to do" ~ SO meta users
 
This is all messed up
I will refrain from posting GG material obviously
but will most likely be leaving the chats
 
Seriously? Over that?
 
3:48 PM
I love you guys, but I cant support a community which behaves in that way
 
It's not the community behaving this way, it's just balpha.
Try to honestly look at it from their perspective.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum bleh without getting banned I cant say much apparently, lets just say I'm heavily invested in gg
and this has more to do with that
 
They (probably, I think they wouldn't tell) got an angry email from the person called a bitch asking "why the heck are there people badmouthing me on your site, that's very rude, you're supposed to be a professional site."
So talk to us on maiou
miaou
 
whats the link? I always lose it
 
You know what, it's probably for the best if we move our reg discussion there for the next few days.
Everyone, we have temporarily moved our reg-discussion to dystroy.org/miaou/8?Javascript
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4 hours later…
7:42 PM
!!afk I likely won't be available in the chat for a while. Tweet me or email me if the bot goes down.
 

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