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Ell
12:06 AM
I need to go to the Polish shop
 
12:17 AM
Time is creeping on and we have done so little!
 
12:33 AM
you have done so little, I might have done a lot ~_~ ... might ...
 
user1646075
12:57 AM
I need to polish the time, the shop is creeping on so little. What might have been…
 
1:20 AM
I feel less feminine every hour.
 
She's inching away from you.
Good morning.
 
user1646075
@Sofffia I lost my feminine edge a long time ago.
 
r/cpp has just become the official ISO C++ mailing list.
 
user1646075
@MarkGarcia afternoon.
 
4:08 AM
-11
Q: Sex with computer?

WhatevaBe careful while having sex with computers as it bytes SO madafakaz. In java - public static fuck onFuck(Dick d, Vagina v){ return d + v; //Can be called from anywhere whores } This can written in C++ and C# too PLEASE LEAVE A DOWNVOTE I WANT TO MAKE THIS THE LOWEST VOTED QUESTION

 
@Mysticial But java doesn't operator overload!
 
user1646075
let's upvote it
 
4:35 AM
Best to go with a fanless design.
Main SO site is down - someone tried to have sex with the servers?
The server sex seems to have brought down all SE!
 
user1646075
@MartinJames like madafakaz!
 
4:59 AM
Mother father!
 
classy
 
sbi
6:02 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes And being in a smaller city then Berlin excuses your failure... how?
Good morning, BTW.
Anyone here?
 
user1646075
Sort-of. Doing battle with JavaScript. Life is cruel™
 
user1646075
and about to go home. "Screh yeh gehs, ahhm gehhen herrm"
 
@aclarke JS? That is not life as we know it.
 
user1646075
it's more a living hell
 
6:13 AM
I will soon have my very own living hell. A customer is sending me a zipped-up database for me to analyse and find out how it got screwed up:(
 
sounds like the perfect task for a Monday morning, NOT
 
fail
 
user1646075
@MartinJames awesome.
 
user1646075
are there PEBCAK or ID:10T records in the transaction logs?
 
@aclarke The ID:10T was the guy who designed the schema, (no, it wasn't me).
 
6:27 AM
@MartinJames Goo morning
 
sbi
7:03 AM
@TonyTheLion What are you doing on your computer at 7:15am?? I thought you're night owl kind of person?
 
@sbi Its called "work"
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion At 7:15?? You poor sod.
(FWIW, it was ~8am here when I logged in, and I am working from home this morning.)
 
@sbi you get used to after a while
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Well, when I am in care of the wee ones, I get up at 5:45, but I leave the house at 7:15.
 
7:07 AM
I don't leave my house
 
@MartinJames hell in a zip file
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Ah. That makes it a bit less daunting. OTOH, having worked from home a lot (while teaching), I freely admit that I hate it.
@jalf I didn't know you can zip hell like this. Can you zap it as well?
 
Xeo
mornin
 
user1804599
@user2069848 Mutexes are slower, but there's always gist.github.com/rmartinho/5363882rightføld 13 secs ago
 
user1804599
7:31 AM
OP is a weird guy.
 
He seems to be babbling.
 
user1804599
I don't like his self-answering either.
 
sbi
Why do you post your own summary, when Mike gave such a good answer? Why don't you just accept his instead? — sbi 30 mins ago
 
@sbi morning old sport.
morning not quite so old sports.
morning whipper snapper sports.
 
sbi
@thecoshman Morning, young unsport.
For a test: Find a character C and a number N so that N repetitions of C replacing "world" in "Hello, world! make a (somewhat) meaningful sentence.
 
7:43 AM
@sbi C=H, N=1. The character being a capital allows you to consider it a proper noun, thus you are saying hello to a person (or place etc.) by the name of 'H'
 
sbi
@thecoshman Fine. Now for another test case N>1, please.
 
I'm starting to think I might want a tablet of some sort for reading digital comics in bed :S
@sbi sure, I'll stick with C=H, and now you are just giving this person a very odd name.
also, you sound slightly annoyed that I presented an answer that actually marks a meaningful sentence :P
 
Imagine if you had picked N=0.
 
lol
 
sbi
@thecoshman Nono, thank you. It's just that I have been plowing through these tests for three days, am very sick of it, and try to get through them ASAP.
 
7:46 AM
@thecoshman Funnily enough, I did use that today. when Hubert the fencing and walling guy came into the club and walked up to the bar, I said "Hello, H".
 
Things that grind my gears, programs that when they start up jump to the foreground and steal keyboard focus, thus as you are typing away you suddenly start typing random commands.
 
user1804599
C=H makes no sense.
 
sbi
@LucDanton Yeah, of course, given a bunch of C++ programmers, I should have made it waterproof. (What about C=='\0'?)
 
@rightføld It does in organic chemistry.
 
@rightføld It does, I have a friend who had 'H' as a nickname. I believe one of those 'Sclub7' boys went by such a nickname too.
 
sbi
7:47 AM
@thecoshman "Do you want to (R)eboot now?"
 
oooh wait, can't have a double bond to H:(
 
sbi
@MartinJames Actually it doesn't.
 
@sbi ¬_¬ yes, exactly that sort of shite.
 
user1804599
@MartinJames No, it doesn't. That was what I was referring to.
 
@rightføld I know, you were just a fraction too late:)
 
7:48 AM
@sbi To be honest I don’t understand the problem as phrased. E.g. what do I get if I pick C='a' and N=3? "Hello, a!"?
 
ooh... I see where you're going with that.
 
sbi
@LucDanton "Hello, aaa!" (N repetitions of C replacing "world")
 
@LucDanton no you pleb, Hello, aaa!, you replace 'world' with N repartitions of C
@sbi needs more condescension.
 
Anyway, H is going to fix the back fence and fit a new gate next week.
 
sbi
@thecoshman What's partitioning got to do with this?
 
7:51 AM
@thecoshman My version isn’t incorrect either. I’ve replaced ‘world’ by 'a', and done so 3 times. That you can’t see the ambiguity in the original version of the problem is tragic—although I can’t say I didn’t expect it.
 
what are you guys discussing
 
@thecoshman Did that do it?
 
sbi
5 mins ago, by sbi
@LucDanton Yeah, of course, given a bunch of C++ programmers, I should have made it waterproof. (What about C=='\0'?)
@Rapptz Character ambiguities, string theory, testing, and the universe.
 
@sbi English of much goodness
 
@sbi I choose N=1 and C=U+1F4A9
 
sbi
7:58 AM
@sehe Is that POO, PILE OF? :) (I'm not testing Unicode, BTW.)
 
Yes. No you're testing your assignment wording, clearly
 
user1804599
If you cannot post a question without all-caps misspelled "Unix" and "command" maybe you shouldn't be on Stack Overflow. — rightføld 29 secs ago
 
sbi
13 mins ago, by sbi
@LucDanton Yeah, of course, given a bunch of C++ programmers, I should have made it waterproof. (What about C=='\0'?)
 
@sbi unicode is a strange beast...
 
sbi
@rightføld I went there considering whether to flag your condescending comment, but after reading the question you criticized, I upvoted the comment instead. :)
 
8:02 AM
That cognitive dissonance when Scott Meyers is found advertising "Effective Ruby" on his blog o.O http://scottmeyers.blogspot.nl/2014/10/new-esds-book-effective-ruby.html #effectiveseries
@sbi '\0 No problem. Obviously, you're using std::string and standard algorithms to do this
 
sbi
@sehe I test a std::basic_string lookalike to behave identical to std::basic_string. Due to the application domain, however, we only need it to work with char right now, so I am currently not thinking up tests for wchar_t.
There's no std::basic_string::replace() version taking iterators and std::basic_string? That seems strange.
Well, one more test I can scrap then.
 
? what does partitioning wchar_t have to do with things o.O?
 
Xeo
yay, Zombie Fluxx arrived
 
sbi
@sehe That's the other common character type to instantiate std::basic_string with.
 
Oh right. I don't know why that came up though.
 
sbi
8:11 AM
@sehe Because on the dominating platform it's a common character type to store Unicode codepoints in, while char isn't.
 
Ah. I thought UNICODE was out though
 
sbi
Sigh. Why don't you just scroll up and reread the conversation? I got tests to write.
 
8:32 AM
Hmm...
Does using GCC's -fPIC have any sense/meaning on Windows?
 
user1804599
What does -fPIC do? Enable picture clauses?
 
@rightføld Position Independent Code
 
@VáclavZeman nope IIRC
at least it doesn't generate real PIC
 
I see.
How do Windows deal with lesser text page sharing in presence of ASLR?
 
@sehe Does Effective Ruby have a lump of coal on the cover?
 
8:34 AM
@sbi Is it just the times we seem to overlap, or do you only seem to get on in the mornings these days? Seems to me you've been getting more time in here.
 
@VáclavZeman "lesser text page"?
 
user1804599
Better write Effective Haskell. Oh wait, Haskell has no effects.
 
@VáclavZeman ASLR doesn't lessen page sharing
because ASLR affects module base when it's loaded first time
copies in other process will have the same base
 
@Abyx Does Windows loader not have to edit the loaded text section to adjust for the randomization/relocation of the code in each process?
 
@rightføld when you run a haskell program, you move to a parallel universe where it made some change on your screen. The old universe is still there, immutable.
 
8:36 AM
@rightføld *side
 
@VáclavZeman it does, but only once
 
@Abyx AHA! I thought each process was going to get the module at different place. That explains things...
 
@BartekBanachewicz now you got me thinking about quantum mechanics :S
 
because it's like you said - true random bases will increase memory usage
 
All medication should be written in Haskell.
 
8:37 AM
@StackedCrooked huh?
 
no side-effects
 
@thecoshman He did not take his meds, that's for sure...
lol
 
@VáclavZeman yeah, you can open process explorer and see that same dlls have same bases in all processes
 
@StackedCrooked Heh, nice one.
 
just a really stupid joke
 
8:39 AM
@StackedCrooked I think that this audience can appreciate it a bit. :) You would not have had any success in the outside world. :)
 
@VáclavZeman in the what?
 
@thecoshman :)
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked unless it's unsafe.
 
sbi
@thecoshman Yes, recently I have been here more. (TBH, I find it more relaxing than it used to be in the last few months. Not so much "mine is bigger than yours_ wankery.) In the morning, before I really start to work, I look at the news, Twitter etc., and then I might pop in here. In the evenings, I mostly prefer to go home and read. :)
The advantage of working from home while my mother is visiting is that she makes a great breakfast while I work. The disadvantage is that she keeps asking me silly questions, yanking me out of my thoughts, every 4.5mins on average. I have told her to pile up the questions and to only ask me every 15mins. Now she walks by, muttering the questions under her breath, adding a muttered statement that she'll only really ask me those in 15mins... Sigh.
 
@sbi :)
 
8:52 AM
@sbi lol. Mothers certainly seem to know how to grind gears :P
@sbi synopsis please
 
sbi
@thecoshman It's just a damn good song about someone having forgotten to take their meds. I think.
src/test/std_lib_util/static_string.cpp(1.086): Error: check stat_str == dyn_str failed [Hello, XX != Hello, XXX] Sigh.
 
@sbi ah. Well, I'll skip it then, your taste is usually not that good for me.
 
sbi
@thecoshman This song might differ in that our thoughts about it might not be all that different. ICBWT.
 
@sbi ¬_¬ fine... can't hurt to listen <music starts, ear bleeding follows>
oh, Placebo o_0
 
sbi
@thecoshman You idiot had me write two messages rather than just click on the damn link and find out it's Placebo??
 
9:02 AM
@sbi no, to find out if I would bother opening a song from you. It's just been a long time since I've even thought of them, let along listened. It's an ok song, I wouldn't (haven't) just closed it.
 
sbi
Well, I guess I need to go and buy butter and flour, and finally bake a cake for my daughter.
@thecoshman :)
 
@sbi Eighteenth birthday?
 
o_0 good god, this bug tracking software we have doesn't seem to have a way to get the the 'time to close' for an issue.
 
@sbi I... don't know the city?
 
@thecoshman "time to close"?
you mean a deadline?
 
9:07 AM
@BartekBanachewicz no, the time it took to close...
 
So apparently MS wants to add #regions to HTML:
 
I can easily see when they were registered, what state they are in (ie closed), I can get figures for in/day and out/day (out being closed for normal people). Just not 'open time'.
 
Given an iterator range R1 over unsorted sequence, find end of equal range R2 that starts at the start of R1.
 
@Mikhail the whole #region thing is dumb
 
We should take it upon ourselves to save HTML
 
9:13 AM
I am thinking I will use std::find_if. Is there a better way? std::equal_range needs partitioned/sorted input.
 
@Mikhail good points raised
 
@BartekBanachewicz huh, don't recall seeing it before, fail to see what it brings to table that divs and id/classes don't
 
@VáclavZeman I don't think so.
@thecoshman it's a comment. It only matters in editor
 
@BartekBanachewicz OK. I was just checking if I am not missing some obvious better choice.
 
@VáclavZeman when in doubt, compare complexity
 
9:15 AM
@BartekBanachewicz so again, what does it bring to the table? What is the point in them?
 
I just learned that std::find_if_not is a thing
 
@thecoshman nothing. Writing crappy code.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Its really I swear! cplusplus.com/reference/algorithm/find_if_not
 
wait
I missed a missing "not"
for fucks sake.
 
Happy Monday!
 
user1804599
9:20 AM
@Mikhail don't read unreliable sources like cplusplus.com.
 
user1804599
 
it still contains that abomination
 
std::find_the_one_I_want
 
std::find_on_mondays
 
using namespace std::experimental::literals::string_view_literals;
auto wow = "this is not verbose at all"sv;
How lovely.
 
9:22 AM
Should be boost::experimental::literals::string_view_literals
 
user1804599
find (== x) :D
 
find x==D
 
user1804599
Bartek tell me why there's no Group type class.
 
@rightføld isn't there?
There's Semigroupoid, so I don't see why Group should be absent
 
user1804599
9:27 AM
There isn't, and neither in Scalaz.
 
maybe it's simply not useful
 
> Haskell is a terrible language for people who can't figure out how to use a p language
SomethingAwful in the morning
 
I wonder if you can really express "closure, associativity, identity and invertibility" for the Haskell's typechecker
@Sofffia I don't get it.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz You can't.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Me neither
 
user1804599
9:29 AM
But Monoid doesn't have those guarantees either.
 
user1804599
All you can do is document that not abiding those laws is UB.
 
so "use your monoid implementation if you satisfy Group requirements"?
well, dunno. Doesn't sound that bad.
 
we could call it a groupoid for consistency
 
A groupoid is different from a group.
Groupoid doesn't require i.e. associativity IIRC
 
I hate it when arkham city forces me to play as catwoman (and soon as some other guy that I forgot)
I got a batman game to play as batman wtf
 
9:31 AM
@LucDanton You can use using namespace std::experimental::literals; instead.
 
Does it also force you to play batman game
 
there is no superhero that I dislike more than catwoman
 
the last one is an inline namespace.
 
I'd also feel bad being forced to play a batman game
 
Interestingly a literal operator for string_view was only mentioned in passing in the older proposals, and isn’t present at all in the current draft. So for the time being that’s a GCC extension.
 
9:31 AM
I thought the Batman game would be about getting rescued by Batman?
 
@Rapptz If I want it do to something else, sure.
 
eh?
 
@BartekBanachewicz actually, arkham * games are great
 
@Rapptz Those two directives are not interchangeable.
 
the combat is so great that pretty much any action game gets its combat system compared to the "arkham games" combat system
I hear shadows of mordor managed to get it to be almost as good
 
9:33 AM
I dunno, I don't play such games a lot.
 
@LucDanton Because it drags down all the other literals?
Is that really an issue?
 
Well, except Chivalry, but I doubt the "combat system" from Batman can even remotely compare to that
but those are different genres.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz but you can do this: class Monoid g => Group g where inv :: g -> g
 
9:35 AM
eh..
o-kay.
Imma stick with what STL advised.
 
user1804599
And then instance Group Integer where inv = negate.
 
user1804599
I like how in Scala you only have to implement pure and bind and it provides applicative and functor for you.
 
@rightføld GHC 7.10
 
@Rapptz Never heard of that?
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz What does it look like?
 
9:39 AM
@rightføld well, AFM proposal is going live, so I suppose this will work OOTB
 
I have
 
user1804599
Isn't that merely the requirement that monad is applicative?
 
That requirement should allow derived implementations, no?
 
user1804599
Like I still have to implement fmap explicitly.
 
user1804599
There's no default fmap for monads.
 
9:41 AM
@BartekBanachewicz I think the best way to describe it is that the character responds to input immediately, adapts any attack to the environment (in one case retaliating might be just a hit, in others it might be a grab and a throw towards some object), and there is no gap between animations
so it really feels like watching a fight in a batman movie
but yes, chivalry is a totally different thing :)
 
7 messages moved to bin
 
why
 
Pointless noise.
 
using namespace std::literals; should clearly be the default
 
@AlexM. does this use some sort of procedural animations (like Euphoria)?
 
9:48 AM
@BartekBanachewicz the answer is probably no. here's a sample youtube.com/watch?v=NZafl__TXnQ
 
just found in an MS sample
 
@LucDanton Sorry if I offended you or made you upset.
 
// Free all the buffers.
 
looks like the same animations to me, but just well adapted to the situation
 
Imma go to bed now.
Adios.
 
user1804599
9:50 AM
@BartekBanachewicz No idea.
 
user1804599
IIRC Haskell doesn't allow Monad to provide a default fmap.
 
@Rapptz I don't think he was.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz ideone.com/ek0SRj
 
@AlexM. I love how the opponents behind are still standing and waiting for their turn
@Puppy hehe
 
@BartekBanachewicz they're polite :D
 
user1804599
9:53 AM
Whereas in Scala I can do this: gist.github.com/rightfold/…
 
@rightføld That's wrong.
 
@rightføld g = f
 
user1804599
No, I want a default implementation of f in terms of g.
 
You can't say "if there's an instance of A for a, f is now something else".
 
it's all backwards
 
9:54 AM
@Rapptz I tend to use ‘wrong question’ because the hackerisms mu/wu are a bit esoteric, and I don’t want to send the discussion on a tangent (which seems to have failed, but nevermind that). I didn’t realise it sounded so blunt though—pretend I said ‘That may be the wrong question’ instead.
 
@rightføld Yeah, that's wrong.
 
> Interestingly, I didn't actually type asterisks, or use a naughty word. My choice of word is defined as "of extremely poor quality".
hehehe
 
I think it all boils down to whether you can provide one instance in terms of another in both ways @R.MartinhoFernandes @rightføld
 
user1804599
It's perfectly fine.
 
user1804599
9:58 AM
If they ought to be the same (fmap f x ought to be pure f <*> x) then it makes perfect sense and there is no "f is now something else".
 
@rightføld But you didn't make fmap. You don't get to say what it ought to be.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not as interesting a concept as I thought it would be.
 
I like the word.
 
That is, not as interesting a concept as the etymology would lead me to believe.
 
Lounge. Always be fmapping
 
10:02 AM
I want to develop hardware
(#tweetlikerightfold)
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's a lot nicer
 
Disappointment compounded by the seeming redundancy with vexillum. How I can now describe the appearances of these cakes?
 
bloody cmake regex syntax
 
You know
I could either write/obtain C++ linker scripts
or try to put Lua on my STM
I can spare a few kBytes of RAM
ah great my board is supported by eLua
 
10:15 AM
@TemplateRex I wouldn't describe those cakes as that. Maybe "bloody cake stax"
 
@sehe I want my cmake and eat it too
 
lol
staxpace ™®
 
I want to parse a tree of unit tests, and build each file in a parallel tree that mirrors the source tree
 
yeah.
The cmake is so cmoist
 
for some reason cmake treats files directly under the source root differently than files in a subdir
 
10:17 AM
> parse a tree
"and a partridge in a fair tree"?
 
more like porridge so far
 
hdds are so cheap, wtf
$60 for 2TB
 
Hmm.. UK tobacco tax:( I just worked out that, if I take a day-trip to Tenerife and bought 1kg of Golden Virginia, I would save £277.54 which, less the air-fare of 83.98, still leaves me 193.96 up. Also, I could spend a day on the beach.
 
Or you could quit smoking and save even more money.
 
@TheForestAndTheTrees That is also true:)
 
10:24 AM
@BartekBanachewicz oooh, get you Mr unicode
@MartinJames for a minute then I was wondering why you need that much Viagra :S
 
I still think it's ridiculous that I can travel 6000km, buy something and still save a huge pile of cash.
@thecoshman ...but it's golden viagra:)
 
@MartinJames trade is ridiculous
 
@MartinJames so... is that hard of soft?
@BartekBanachewicz tax FTFY
@MartinJames I think you mean 6Mm, sounds much better
 
@thecoshman Well, pretty wobbly, TBH.
 
let's stop talking about your meat.
 
10:29 AM
@thecoshman I was thinking about plastic pouches of tobacco, but still..
 
> Hinweis: 1cm = 10mm
Why, thank you.
 
@MartinJames keep you kinky fetish clothes to yourself
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oooh, when you know that Hinweis is a translation thingy, that is funny.
 
 
Ell
10:46 AM
Hi
 
yo
 
11:15 AM
@MartinJames they won't charge you the difference in tax at the border?
 
Perhaps 1kg was the legal limit before having to declare :)
 
11:34 AM
@MartinJames or you can stop smoking and save your health
health > $
 
@Mgetz Not if the tobacco is for personal use.
 
@MartinJames don't know about the UK, but in the US there is a line where custom's calls bullshit on you and orders you to pay the tax anyway. You can appeal after the fact.
 
@LucDanton There is no legal limit between EU countries, but the more you bring back, the more difficult it is to convince border customs that it's for personal use.
@Mgetz Yes, that is the case here too.
 
That’s nice. Well, nice-ish.
 
@MartinJames so the way my friends in NY get around it is they drive to Virginia (or just take the train) as it's illegal for NY to tax consumer goods bought out of state
 
11:41 AM
I could probably get away wth 2 or 3 kg if I actually went away for a couple weeks, as in a vacation, but a day-trip begins to look much more like smuggling. I would not want to push it too far else tax/confiscation.
 
too bad scotland or wales doesn't have different tax rates... you could pull the same trick my friends in NY do
 
@Mgetz Yeah:(
Aparrently, Czech R. has even cheaper tobacco than Spain but, every time I goto those Balkan countries, I end up with a hangover the size of a small mountain.
 
@MartinJames I could make jokes about just quitting, but I don't have any. So instead I'll make jokes about customs conspiring to get you drunk to dissuade you
 
what does boos.units return if you do length/length? I'm debating whether just double or a fraction type would make most sense
 
@JohanLarsson Same type as the quantities.
 
11:54 AM
sounds strange/wrong
 
Ell
yeah sounds wrong to me too
 
It's the sane result.
If you want a rational result, use quantities with rationals.
@JohanLarsson I meant, same type as the quantities' underlying type.
 
ah, ok. Would mean double in my case then
 
Ell
> “I’m not familiar with this Banksy character, honestly if it’s not in the Bible I probably haven’t heard of it, but if this arrest spreads awareness of the harmful effects of self-rape, then that is a good thing. "
what in fuck is self-rape
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the code if you wanna have a look.
 
11:56 AM
Basically, quantity<T, Dim> / quantity<U, Dim> resulting in the same type as T / U.
 
@Ell I think it's sad... banksy was really acting a bit as a court jester
 
Ell
I'm not sure it's real anyhow. I don't really care
 
Ell
Although I don't know why you'd want to arrest him when instead you can just sell his artwork for a profit
 
@Ell Masturbation?
 
Ell
11:58 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes masturbation against your own will?
 
Ell
You'd have to be schizophrenic :P
 
maybe when you sleep?
 
@Ell No. Just what extremist religious groups call it.
 
> Fappy The Anti-Masturbation Dolphin.
seriously @Ell
 
11:59 AM
@Ell because in general the police can be humorless pricks
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz lol oops. serves me right for not reading the article :P
 

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