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12:02 AM
@Justin What IDE do you recommend for me for learning XML?
 
vi
lol
well vim
You don't need an IDE for XML. Syntax highlighting and easy indentation helps though, which vim does well.
 
You do know my focus will be on building the UI for my game...
 
Yea. Just use whatever IDE you use. Pretty much all of them handle XML just fine.
 
I don't have an IDE on here at all
 
IDEA!
 
12:07 AM
Is that a suggestion, or you had one?
 
@Joe'sMorgue That's a suggestion :p
 
Oh....
 
IntelliJ IDEA is a Java IDE by JetBrains. It is available as an Apache 2 Licensed community edition and a commercial edition. In a report by Infoworld in 2010, IntelliJ received the highest test center score out of the 4 Top Java Programming Tools : Eclipse, IntelliJ IDEA, NetBeans, and Oracle JDeveloper. == History == The first version of IntelliJ IDEA was released in January 2001, and at the time was one of the first available Java IDE with advanced code navigation and code refactoring capabilities integrated. Google is developing a product called Android Studio, an open source Android ...
 
I'm looking at it now...
Should I install it from Terminal or from the Software Center
I'm thinking the Software center because I havn't done that yet
 
It works exactly the same :p the Software Center is just a frontend for aptitude
Also, yay more points.
 
12:19 AM
I have to log in and crap...Not worth it...Looking for how to install it from terminal. [Don't help [yet]]
 
lolwut guess the Software Center isn't what I thought it was. Sounds like some nonsense to me.
There's actually some other package manager GUIs which are really nice, I use Synaptic when I'm doing alot of searching for packages
 
Hey, is there a task manager like Winders has?
java -version tells me I have the latest java, but how do I know if I have the JDK and not the JRE?
 
Lots of them, but I generally just use "top" or "htop" to get process stats. Then if I need really need to kill something then I do it via command line
 
What would Control-ALT-Delete do in Ubuntu?
 
Do
dpkg-query -l "*jdk*"
Not sure about that. But don't hit CTRL + SHIFT + BACKSPACE or CTRL + SHIFT + F1, you'll drop out of the desktop environment into a terminal
 
12:31 AM
How well do you know Winders...
 
CTRL + ALT + DELETE should be relatively harmless if you want to try it. Worst it will do is log you out, i think.
 
It asked me if I want to log out, didn't log me out...
 
Haha
I know windows pretty well too, I just don't use it for anything technical.
 
What's so funny?
 
That was my laughter of relief that it didn't actually log you out.
 
12:34 AM
OK
 
I got my association bonus, an accepted answer, and a couple upvotes all at once :o
 
Impressive...
LARGE Paste...Hope nobody minds
About to delete it outta respect of the room...
ALL JDKs are <none>
Or am I mis-reading it?
 
Yea you'll have to install them
 
Thought so...I don't wanna assume.
 
Not entirely sure what java2-jdk is though, you'll have to look that up with apt-cache or the web repo browser
 
12:48 AM
I am referencing this...Reading it now, it sounds logical...
 
It's so long and unnecessary. You already did an apt-get update not too long ago, just
sudo apt-get install default-jdk
and done. (unless that happens to be jdk7 and you want jdk8)
Well
I guss that might install openJDK in your case, which probaby isn't what you want.
You may continue. Probably good experience anyways :p
 
:)
I want the latest and greatest....
Hey, I have the two finger scrolling active, but I'm used to the reverse. Can I fix that? [It's not an option]
 
two finger scrolling on what?
 
Touchpad
 
On ubuntu?
 
12:59 AM
I'm on an Acer Aspire One...
KAV60
 
Wait until you stop laughing before you comment...
 
Isn't that a 16"? I like those.
This should so be reopened
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Q: Should java 8 getters return optional type?

leonprouOptional type introduced in Java 8 is a new thing for many developers. Is a getter method returning Optional<Foo> type in place of the classic Foo a good practice? Assume that the value can be null.

The question itself is worded in a way that makes it seem like something that would be based on opinion, but in fact it has an answer from stackoverflow.com/users/3553087/brian-goetz Stating exactly what the intentions were with that feature.
 
Acer Aspire One is a diverse line of netbooks released in July 2008 by Acer Inc. Many characteristics of a particular model of Acer Aspire One are dictated by the CPU platform chosen. Initial models were based on the Intel Atoms. Later, models with various AMD chips were introduced. Newer versions of the Atom were adopted as well. Early versions were based on the Intel Atom platform, which consists of the Intel Atom processor, Intel 945GSE Express chipset and Intel 82801GBM (ICH7M) I/O controller, and is available in several shell colors: seashell white, sapphire blue, golden brown, onyx black...
10 inch
 
I knew that seemed familiar. I swapped the keyboard out on one of those a few months back.
 
1:09 AM
10.1" LED
Dual 1.6Ghz Atom processor...
ATOM!
 
Lol, they're good for what they're for. I'm surprised you got ubuntu running on it so easily.
Ubuntu has always had great hardware support though.
 
Why does EVERYTHING have me sudo get update
Venting, not really expecting answer
 
It's just for upating your repositories, in case new/updated packages were pushed to the remote repository. I wouldn't bother doing it more than once or twice a day when you're installing/updating.
 
karl@Aspire-one:~$ sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
oracle-java8-installer is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
I guess I'm good...
Oh CRAP! You now know my real name!?!?!?!?!.............
 
lol
 
1:15 AM
haha
Now the newbies know the truth XD
 
I still don't know yours... :P [Ask @Gemtastic, I'm not too quick]
 
I'm not gonna say it here
 
Thank you!
 
@Gemtastic 0_o Hi!
 
Hi justin
 
1:16 AM
I like your pony.
 
Last person who got to know started being overly friendly
Thank you. His name is Creative Jack. He has questionable copyright issues.
 
@Justin is always too friendly.
 
As long as you don't expect something out it that's fine
 
I'm just a dirty middle-aged man...
 
I've just realized that StackOverflow addiction could be a serious problem.
 
1:25 AM
It does stump your productivity a little :P
 
I killed the chat!
It's been an hour, nobody answered my question...
:(
 
What was your question? Not that i think I can answer it
 
WHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Q: / Properties has a grey wedge

Joe's MorgueThursday, I installed Ubuntu. Because I'm new to Ubuntu, I have explored... When I looked at the properties of the HDD, it showed me a pie. Free is Light Blue, has 31GB. Used is Blue, 5.2GB Grey is not explained, and is about 1.5 to 2GB. What is the grey wedge? Bonus: Why is it not explain...

 
Nope, can't help you
 
@Joe'sMorgue try the command "sudo df -h"
 
1:31 AM
sudo df -h
NOTHING!
karl@Aspire-one:~$ sudo df -h
[sudo] password for karl:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5 36G 5.0G 29G 15% /
none 4.0K 0 4.0K 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
udev 487M 4.0K 487M 1% /dev
tmpfs 100M 1.1M 99M 2% /run
none 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock
none 497M 416K 496M 1% /run/shm
none 100M 56K 100M 1% /run/user
/dev/sda1 112G 21G 92G 19% /media/karl/ACER
 
looks relatively normal to me.
 
Sorry....
 
I wouldn't worry about that grey wedge.
 
What is it? Why is it there?
 
No clue. But df looks normal so I wouldn't worry.
It could be unallocated space I guess?
Try "sudo fdisk -l"
 
1:39 AM
-l, as in lower case L?
 
yup
 
karl@Aspire-one:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x9a92f804

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 63 234506838 117253388 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2 234508286 312580095 39035905 5 Extended
sda6...Swap? Could the grey be swap?
It's /'s properties...It's IMPLIED it's part of sda5's partition.
 
That's likely
 
I know it's not the same thing, but could it be the UNIX equivalent of the FAT?
 
swap is like virtual memory on windows
When you run out of memory, it starts using swap space.
More or less. It has other uses on linux as well, but that's the jist of it.
 
1:48 AM
I know what swap is...Remember, I'm OLD
Swap is also a separate partition in Unix, so it's not part of the partition containing root
 
It's mounted.
So yes, all of those become part of /
 
Oh yeah...I forgot that part about Unix...
@spoulson is sitting there reading and thinking "What does this have to do with Java"
 
I'm assuming anything that's mounted but can't be accessed is showing as the grey area. So it probably contains your swap space, along with all of those other system files that you can't access.
 
?
 
lol
 
1:53 AM
Let's make him feel welcome, and talk Java...
 
What's that?
 
You put the cream in the coffee, and stir it all up!
Sing with me!
 
Part of java is the development environment, right? Therefore, this is all totally relevant. :o
 
Yeah, that's it! YEAH!
[He probably thinks we are COMPLETELY off our rockers!]
My rocker's in the shop this week, so...
 
Still has nothing to do with Java.
 
1:56 AM
Nobody has been here for quite a while, we drifted...
Welcome. Do you have a Java question, or just visiting, or???
 
Using the lappy and left the tab open.
 
Oh...
 
But I'll think up a question
 
CRAP!! Hides
sudo add-apt-repository ppa: paolorotolo / android-studio
I think spacing is incorrect
I'm thinking I should be removing all spaces after ppa:
 
I dunno. I mostly use debian. PPAs aren't used very often there.
 
2:03 AM
In that case, I'm going to stick a pin in it, watch it fly around the room while making that weird noise, and go to sleeps...
 
Almost my bed time too.
 
I guess it would be a good time to let them discuss Java. :P
Sleeps well
 
haha goodnight
 
I feel so left out in that conversation
 
@Gemtastic I haven't left just yet.
 
2:08 AM
Sigh. Realized my laptop doesn't have a Bluray drive.
Can't rip all these moveis. :(
 
Sounds rough
 
#firstworldproblems
 
Yeah... I've only ever seen two blue-ray films :')
Just don't even have the money to buy the film
 
Got a stack of Walmart cheapies
Plus Frozen.
Want to put them on my Plex server.
 
@spoulson Kodi for me :p
 
2:14 AM
Kodi is probably a good setup. But Plex gives me a bit more flexibility.
Can stream to any device on the network. Roku, iOS, Android. With a subscription I can even stream via Internet.
And Plex server is built into FreeNAS.
 
Yea, that seemed to be one of the plus sides of Plex, from what I understand it actually re-encodes for streaming in a browser. Fortunately my android device can handle decoding anything I've bothered to try. I have a similar setup though, It's essentially a HTPC + NAS
 
:I
 
I found this setup by accident.
All I wanted was to build a huge NAS. Then a year or so later they release the Plex plugin. Pretty sweet.
It's not the end-all, but my 6y/o son figured out how to get to his movies on it.
 
Cool :) The only limitation I've really had is that I can't stream to my PS4. From what I've gathered that can be done with Plex
Time for rest. goodnight Java!
 
2:35 AM
Good night
oh look, already 4 am
 
Hi,
 
hello
 
Its 4am and you are not going to bed yet? :)
 
nope
I hope someone will wake us up with a phone-call today
 
just asking, how many hours do you sleep per day
 
2:43 AM
around 8
or make it 9, I usually nap around 11pm
I was born in the wrong time-zone
;P
 
well, its still good, you just translate your bio-time
sleep-hour: translate(-6h);
:P
 
heh
 
sorry for that is CSS stuff in Java chat room
 
it's ok, for now
I actually understood that
 
sure :)
 
2:45 AM
we just had two guys talking some kind of moon talk:')
 
so are with your friend
 
It might have been Java related, but I wouldn'tknow, I'm only a n00b
are with my friend?
 
sorry, "so you are with my friend" (my language software truncated that)
"with your friend", haha
fuck my english
you know, actually i not often hanging out in chat rooms
 
Ah
I'm here all the time.
 
I am waiting for a man
 
2:48 AM
It's nice to have company while I code
For a man?
 
I am waiting for a man who promised to help me with a small problem (but big for me)
it has been 2 days and somehow I never been in the chat room in the same time with him
(or her, I don't know)
 
Ah, kylar
yeah, it's been a while since I saw him
 
so you know him
 
well, not much, but he seems like a good guy.'
 
in the past 2 days, I've been digging more about the problem, but it still here, so I think maybe I should find him
could you help me with the bug maybe? It is about login to secure website (https) with HttpPost and stuffs
 
2:53 AM
yeah. He seems good at Java. If you see @Unihedron, he's good at Java too
sorry, I only know basic CSS and HTML and we won't learn Java for the web 'til christmas D;
We = me and my class
 
yeah, i am new here, those are strange names for me ^^
acctualy its about java in android, not about web :)
 
He's very helpful though. He should be on in a few hours when he's home from school
Oh jeez, I dunno when we're even gonna touch android XD
Sorry for not being able to help you
 
thats okay
what do they teach in your school?
 
Java programming
I just started this august so I barely know the basics
 
ya, Java chat room seems a very good start :D
though I should be here more often :)
 
3:02 AM
Please come
the more the merrier!
 
 
2 hours later…
4:32 AM
Hey everyone!
 
hello
 
what's up
 
not much :)
 
Pch... I have always been thinking to learn spring, but my work always demands for quick outcome, so had to avoid it every time I thought to use it.
What have you been up to?
 
I've kinda been taking it lazy today.
on the other hand I worked for 10h straight with a program yesterday...
For a n00b that's probably kinda much
I'm thinking about what to do next
 
4:44 AM
10h straight?
 
yes
I started coding at ten and was done at 8
 
5:14 AM
Oh lunch, delicious lunch, joy.
 
hello
 
'yallo
 
Lovely with the lunch-break?
 
yuss
 
I wanna eat something too but I'm too lazy to do the dishes >_>
 
5:17 AM
poor you :P
 
No pity for the lazy :P
Coding yesterday gave me some hard time sleeping
Couldn't stop thinking about code XD
 
The joys when you pick up a programming language ^~^
 
Indeed ^^
I wonder what I should do next
I kinda want my teacher to throw an eye at the program I made last night
 
Code the best engine ever built, sell it, get rich.
 
engine for what?
 
5:25 AM
idk o.O
 
just any engine won't do
What if I code the best engine ever to find moles on old men?
That wouldn't make me very rich
 
Yes it will...
rule 51
 
according to which chart?
 
Rule 51 will compile but you will get an error at runtime because that doesn't support "rich"
 
 
1 hour later…
6:57 AM
Hey guys!
@Gemtastic What were you coding? :P
 
RIght now, nothing
I'm not in a good mental state to write code :P
Were?
 
mental state? Didn't sleep through the night?
 
I haven't touched any code the last 24h
:')
 
2 hours ago, by Gemtastic
I started coding at ten and was done at 8
 
that was yesterday
 
7:01 AM
How will people know about it? :P
 
derp
Because I mentioned I did it yesterday here chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/19386708#19386708
Literally five lines above that quote :P
 
haha
 
7:20 AM
@ItachiUchiha hi!
 
hello
 
do you have experience in websocket with spring?
 
sorry
 
@Kerppag HI
@Gemtastic Are you done with Swings?
 
nope
No GUI
 
7:34 AM
But you said, you were gonna start Javafx?
 
We're gonna learn FX next course yeah
Not next class
Next course starts in november
 
Long time
so what are you learning in the current course?
 
Yeah, we're supposed to work on our course examination program now
 
course examination program?? Creating a program for the exam? :P
 
7:50 AM
It's a product to show that we've understood what the course was about
It only features core java SE
 
@ItachiUchiha have you tried implementing websockets in spring?
 
8:21 AM
Yo
@ItachiUchiha tasks :(
 
8:40 AM
so in the PHP chat room there's a Naruto, and in here there's an @ItachiUchiha
Is the entire Konoha village on StackOverflow or something?
 
@theGreenCabbage There's also a Minecrafter village at the 19th byte, and some geeks at the 2nd monitor.
I haven't decided whether to join CR or CG yet. :S Such a difficult decision picking a faction, but I already have a start on both.
 
@theGreenCabbage visit this

Leaf Village Ninjas

We send Ninjas on Mission
@miniHessel What about them :P
 
It's a gallery room :(
 
@ItachiUchiha so hard to write :P
 
@Unihedron yeah
 
8:55 AM
I should create a "Programming challenge generator", so @Gem has something productive to follow. :P
 
we take in characters from Leaf Village
@miniHessel Whats hard :P
 
this won't work at all :p
 
@Unihedron I am excited too x_0
 
(Casually throwing out impossible / difficult tasks into the todo bin o_O)
 
are you intact face palming right now @ItachiUchiha ?
4
Q: JavaFX - Background Thread for SQL Query

UniqumI'm wondering if anybody can help me with a rather annoying problem regarding creating a background thread in JavaFX! I currently have several SQL queries that add data to the UI which currently run on the JavaFX Application Thread (see example below). However when each of these queries execute i...

found this though @ItachiUchiha
but it's way too complicated code.
 
9:23 AM
I would be extremely surprised if this was a thread race issue. My money is on equals and hashcode, 100%. — Craig Otis 20 hours ago
 
hi friends i have a doubt in location tracking in android
i.e., location is finely tracking in network provider,if i turned on the GPS means location tracking is not working..
 
9:43 AM
@SabariKarthik Without seeing some code, it's difficult to guess as to what the problem is. Have you opened a question on this which includes code? If not, that's probably the best thing to do.
 
No Still now i didnt open any question ..
 
@SabariKarthik Welcome to the chat room butter-up of your soon-to-be-posted question. Would you like to give some details?
 
i have posted the question here stackoverflow.com/questions/26337188/…
 
@ItachiUchiha I'm so close now, just need your input on a small thing
 
10:19 AM
@miniHessel hmm
@Unihedron ???
 
Shhh it's moderation hour
 
its a bug somewhere @ita ,tested with tasks also now
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Q: MYSQL never stops trying to connect if IP is correct, but something else is wrong

miniHesselI am getting a real strange behaviour from Java and MYSQL if I write the wrong connection information. Say for example the correct connection information is : ip: localhost port: 8889 instance:test If I connect with this information, everything is fine, but if I change the port number or the i...

 
@miniHessel ohh
 
10:37 AM
@trejder -1 for encouraging answering homework / do it for me questions. — Unihedron 1 min ago
 
but @ItachiUchiha how can you actually call the task from another class and wait till the task is done?
 
@miniHessel I generally use Executor and Future
@Unihedron haha
 
hmm, would you elaborate please ?
 
You can check few examples out there, I have a lot of work today
:( :(
 
okay, np
okay, last question ok?
 
10:47 AM
shoot
 
pastie.org/9643883 this is the task, guess it's ok? So I can just create a executer on it?
 
You got an answer on your question :P
 
yes you can
 
this is how I check if it's done.
 
10:49 AM
instead of new Thread(task).start();
use executor.execute(task);
 
woot points
 
Actually, you should use Future<?> future = executor.execute(task);
and then future.get();
 
future.get in the other class to check if it's done?
 
future.get() will wait
until the thread has completed execution
 
"void cannot be converted to future". So guess I shouldn't have it in a method?
 
10:58 AM
Hey I have a problem with a LejOS java program. I am trying to play a sound at the same time when my program launch a cannon. Code is here: http://pastebin.com/rHuDkpDi
It will work if I change sound to leds then it will blink leds same time then I shoot. But with sounds it don´t work.
 
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