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8:00 PM
starbait taken
 
@rightfold Why?
 
user1804599
For fun.
 
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Q: Internet Explorer doesn't load jQuery correctly but it does on localhost

nicki have this website: pvlts.host22.com It works in all major browsers like Google Chrome, Opera, Safari, Mozilla Firefox, etc. But when i open the page on internet explorer, the jQuery elements doesn't load correctly. But, when i open the page in localhost (i'm using wampserver) the page loads c...

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user1804599
I already learned something whilst doing this!
 
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if (/\b([0-9a-fA-F]+)\b/ ~~ @opcode) { // ~~ operator :3
    print "*it++ = 0x$1;\n";
}
 
user1804599
8:02 PM
Similar to === in Ruby, I think.
 
@rightfold When does regexps include type?
 
user1804599
=== is not only for types.
 
user1804599
irb(main):001:0> String === 'foo'
=> true
irb(main):002:0> /^[fo]+$/ === 'foo'
=> true
irb(main):003:0> (1..10) === 5
=> true
 
user1804599
I call it the “contains” operator. :P
 
So, what does it do that == doesn't?
 
user1804599
8:06 PM
@EtiennedeMartel for one, the String class is not equal to the string 'foo'.
 
user1804599
And regexen are never equal to strings.
 
@rightfold Ruby is very much taking "the road less travelled" on that one =)
 
user1804599
Nor are ranges ever equal to numbers.
 
@rightfold So....?
 
I like it.
 
8:06 PM
What I'm really asking is: why a separate operator?
 
user1804599
Eh, so it’s not anything like == at all?
 
user1804599
It has nothing to do with equality.
 
Then why does it look like equality?
(or similarity)
 
@EtiennedeMartel They should probably have chosen the operator ><= but that would look off.
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel Because Ruby’s syntax isn’t my favourite one. :P
 
user1804599
8:08 PM
Something with a tilde would be better IMO.
 
UB is over-invoked on SO, though. This OP wants a practical explanation, and one can be provided, trivially. Whittering on about the undefined nature of this program at the abstract level is not useful. For example, this program will never actually erase your hard drive, and it will never make your nose run. Ever. This is because the question is about how a program behaves when it is executed on an actual computer that exists in our physical reality. — Lightness Races in Orbit 3 hours ago
this was such a genius comment by me
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Don't fuck with the Standard (with a capital S)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm equally frustrated by an explanation saying. "Your code is UB." I hate it. Intuition should be guided and fostered with a firm hand. Saying that code is UB is about as helpful as saying you are an idiot. Unfortunately stating the UB fact garners a lot of upvotes.
 
I can reproduce this on Mac OS — Marshall Clow 2 hours ago
hahaha.
Such helpful. Much Wow
It just did make my nose run.
From just reading it. (Might have had to do with a comment)
 
@sehe Wow, such an old OS.
 
8:15 PM
OS7
 
Oh. I'm not well versed in Apple speak.
 
OSX is OS 10.
 
No. Way.
 
true story
 
You need to get that story to the Guardian, or something
 
8:17 PM
my tongue - I bit it
 
My commit - it is getting huger and huger
 
@CaptainGiraffe Yeah even on a question that includes that fact in its fundamental premise Sigh
 
> CodeWarrior for Mac OS has been discontinued and is no longer sold or supported.
Ah, man.
Remember when CodeWarrior was the official IDE for Wii development? Such were the days.
 
CodeWarrior was my worst coding experience ever.
Had to use it for over a year professionally (around 2006)
 
in Python, 1 min ago, by Kevin
Ah, here's a link with screenshots: gradients in paint
 
8:19 PM
Netvibes is really having trouble with timestamping of posts these days i.imgur.com/wunWCgt.png
 
@JohanLarsson pahah that's hilarious
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit not a good feeling for them who payed for Illustrator though.
 
@JohanLarsson quite
 
@StackedCrooked Enable (tm) was my worst coding experience. (around 1988).
 
I don't know that.
I started in 2003.
 
8:22 PM
I wasn't born in 1988.
 
le fixed.
 
@StackedCrooked I was 14 when I had do code Enable. It was a spreadsheet-like product.
 
wait, still, what
usrs
 
8:23 PM
hi
 
shhh he's back
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes.
what makes you so surprised?
if I recall your age correctly, you must only have been born in what, 1985?
 
I'm not actually surprised; I'm just feigning surprise in an attempt to make it sound like your age is relatively very low
plz 2 enjoy my circular msg
 
hmph
 
@DeadMG I imagined you in your late thirties =) coding away, watching your meals.
 
8:25 PM
I'm too old.
lost three and a half years to my guts.
 
in reality I'm aware that many of you are babies
anyway no I'm not 29 years old. that's only how long i've been on SO
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You should really go to physics.se and ask about time.
 
user1804599
Man.
 
user1804599
Fuck you x86-64.
 
I just got "A tour of C++" by Bjarne in the mail. It is full, and ripe with mistakes.
 
8:29 PM
rightfold why on earth are you dealing with x86_64 yourself.
smart man uses LLVM or something.
 
@rightfold What's so appealing about x86-64 that you want to fuck it? :)
 
user1804599
@Mysticial It’s complicated.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Why oh why did you.
It's the first chapters of TC++PL4.
Before reviewing
For half the price.
It's a robbery.
Fucking moneygrab.
 
so robot, I hear that you're unhappy about this.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It was sent to me free of charge. The Chapter quotes are something else though.
It contains faults like "while (p != 0 )" while looking for a 0 character.
 
8:37 PM
That's... pretty silly.
Rule #1: Don't use markdown for your code samples
 
On modularity: "Don't interrupt me while I'm interrupting." - Winston S. Churchill
 
user1804599
Bjarne doesn’t know C++.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Check this out.
 
@CaptainGiraffe what is clocks?
@DeadMG you just answered your own question
 
LLVM is no saintly library, it's full of mutable global state and general badness.
but it's a far superior deal to generating your own machine code.
 
8:55 PM
@rightfold That's quite the stretch. You can know things yet fail to produce flawless specimens/proofread
 
user1804599
I was making a joke.
 
Ahaha. Clearly you were. I got that!
 
@rightfold Joke, oh Joke.
 
user1804599
Tante Joke en ome StackedCrooked.
 
user1804599
9:09 PM
This is boring. I want to write something else.
 
and there it is
 
@EtiennedeMartel hehe
 
damn, these images are astoundingly low quality.
 
"and when you have a proof it's a proof because it's proven"
 
I really need a new phone.
 
9:15 PM
aww
 
@DeadMG Or you need to be more careful about your camera
 
that had just occurred to me.
I have no idea how to clean it, or if it even needs cleaning, it just looks kinda black.
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
user1804599
Daily wake and bakes.
 
@DeadMG If it's like my old htc, open it, wipe the sand out :) Sand + grease will do this.
You can try to blow it out (compressed air handy?)
 
9:17 PM
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Q: Low-rep users should not be able to ask questions

Engineer DolleryI have noticed that a lot of the questions I down-vote are from users with a very low reputation (and usually a randomly generated username). Perhaps these users shouldn't be able to ask questions until they have studied the site a little, and perhaps understand what good questions look like? The...

^^ /cc @LightnessRacesinOrbit For you. :)
 
user1804599
@Mysticial This is a great idea.
 
user1804599
You must lurk before posting.
 
much doge, such better
 
@DeadMG so cute
 
ah balls time to drug myself some more
 
9:21 PM
The mac screws the view though
 
user1804599
Dat ring.
 
user1804599
Puppy’s married.
 
no, I'm the one holding the camera phone
 
user1804599
Since you’re the puppy, I must say it’s a rather nice selfie.
 
hehehe
 
9:22 PM
@DeadMG What camera phone? I don't see it in the picture. :D
 
so yes
 
user1804599
Some morons want to prohibit taking selfies while voting for elections in the Netherlands. :facepalm:
 
cleaning the camera seems to have much success on improving the picture quality (what a shocker)
 
@rightfold are you serious?
 
user1804599
Yes. :v
 
user1804599
9:23 PM
It’s so stupid I don’t even.
 
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Q: Could a significant reputation requirement for asking questions be ethical and/or practical here?

Lightness Races in OrbitI imagine that this will be highly controversial but, well, we're here to ask and discuss, right?! In the tags that I frequent, namely c++/php/javascript on SO, it feels to me like we have reached a kind of saturation point, in that the vast majority of new questions daily are either duplicates ...

;)
 
(facepalm) like there's not enough problems to solve...
 
user1804599
They said it was because they would have evidence they voted for X.
 
user1804599
Which is completely your own fucking business, so why would anyone care.
 
also lol at the fact that this got migrated
and i just found this in my MSE question history:
 
user1804599
9:25 PM
I propose a maximum question/answer ratio of 0.2, where answer means “answer with at least an upvote.”
 
@rightfold -- no it isn't, and good community spirit there, glad you're not in charge. How did you get nearly 5k reputation without asking or answering any questions and not really voting on things? — Engineer Dollery 39 secs ago
^^ WTF is he saying?
 
@Mysticial He's saying he doesn't know how MSO rep works.
 
@rightfold Is really a 30k user if you include his old account.
 
user1804599
@Mysticial Nah, 26k~27k.
 
9:26 PM
close enough
 
"before they mess it all up". Like, you know, what you're doing on meta now? — sehe 11 secs ago
 
user1804599
If I say that auto constexpr pi = 3; is that also close enough?
 
close enough to 0, yes
Also, you really want template <typename T> constexpr T pi = 3; -- obviously
 
@sehe What was that for?
 
user1804599
Hmm, variable templates. Or template variables? I can never remember the order.
 
9:28 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Apparently he thinks disruptive posts "mess it all up". That must apply to his own post equally, then
 
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user1804599
Once again I’m alone. :(
 
> I am an enterprise class software engineer with around 35 years experience
 
user1804599
@sehe lel
 
user1804599
I should update my bio.
 
user1804599
9:30 PM
I want to change it to “I like penis.” but I think I might be banned for that.
 
Yeah. You're a world-renowned programming language connaisseur, specializing in elementary research towards new language implementations and the inventory of bugs.
 
Try Phallus?
 
user1804599
@sehe thanks. :3
 
The book of bugs. Volume I.
 
@sehe I don't think his question is disruptive. It's perfectly suited to meta. That's what meta is there for.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not he question, but the way it's posed/argued... IMO it is. But lemme re-read it all
 
@sehe i'd say you're closer to the money with that clarification
 
mobygames changed the abomination of a design their site switched to a year ago or so
might just start using it again
 
user1804599
lol, I still have the only upboat.
 
9:35 PM
Meta-StackOverflow -- where did that come from? :) — Engineer Dollery 1 min ago
?!
 
there's money involved?
what money?
 
He is just feeding on all the hate in that post lol.
 
user1804599
Plan 9 sounds cool.
 
in other news I rather like MSE's visual theme
 
@EngineerDollery You're not blasting anyone? Have a look at your question title, again, will you. Next up: your first comment to rightfold. How'd you miss the irony and humour in his line? (Note, he gave you the only upvote you have (had?)) — sehe 14 secs ago
Aced it.
 
9:44 PM
@EngineerDollery users already have to go through an interstitial page and click a checkbox to ask their question- it's a mistake to think they're just too lazy to type it into Google and that a small push will get them to do so. Rather, they don't realize they should Google, or are not good at phrasing their query or reading the results. If you think bad questions are a problem, how about "lol I dunno UR answer but upvote me sir I have urgent question" answers? — David Robinson 4 mins ago
haha
 
user1804599
Oh my god, I’m fond of laughter.
 
user1804599
Picture of a Dutch politician with an article about leeches. powned.tv/nieuws/tech/2014/05/bloedzuigertherapie_populair.html
 
one of our politicians got himself painted next to jesus in the church of the town he's a mayor of
beat that
 
user1804599
I would have myself painted in place of Jesus.
 
user1804599
Chicks hangen aan mijn kruis, net als Jezus.
 
user1804599
9:54 PM
Chicks bukken voor mij, net als katoenplukkers.
 
chicks hang to what jesus?
 
user1804599
I believe the phrase is from a song.
 
his crotch
 
user1804599
Heard it from some Turk.
 
10:04 PM
well
first time I've seen this as a requirement on a job advertisement
> DOORS
you can't get too far in life if you can't operate a door.
 
maybe they require you to be a fan of the doors?
 
> Change Control
do they mean version control?
 
user1804599
Stephen Hawking can’t operate a (usual) door, yet he’s made it pretty far.
 
I'm still appalled at the very level of that guy's question title. And his very first comment speaks volumes:
@rightfold -- no it isn't, and good community spirit there, glad you're not in charge. How did you get nearly 5k reputation without asking or answering any questions and not really voting on things? — Engineer Dollery 44 mins ago
Clearly, not interested in discussion. Instead, immediately discrediting someone else's observation and reaching for the "ad hominem" disguised ad "ad autoritatem"
 
user1804599
Autoritair besluit.
 
user1804599
10:10 PM
Oh, het is Mei! Binnenkort een nieuwe Europese dictator kiezen!
 
@rightfold sooo.... who's right?
 
user1804599
fold
 
right!
sleep time. night!
 
user1804599
Tot ooit.
 
inline access_type code_read()
{
    return { true, false };
}
Where access_type is basically struct { bool, bool }
> error C2661: 'mmu::access_type::access_type' : no overloaded function takes 2 arguments
Someone in the MSVC team is on drugs.
 
10:15 PM
VC12?
 
13 with CTP.
AHAHAHAHHAA
std::uint64_t _registers[8] = {};
Results in what? ICE.
Gratz, MS, gratz.
God I hate this compiler.
 
yeah I've stumbled into that one
 
Stop working on C++14 or own extensions and fix the fucking C++11 first.
 
void foo(std::string s = { })
runtime error
They have big problems with list initialization
 
user1804599
They want you to use C#.
 
10:18 PM
_mem->write(_mmu->translate(address), value);
 
user1804599
I wish C# had a structural type system rather than a nominative one.
 
Where the type of value is a deduced template argument.
And what? This call is ambiguous!
Jesus Christ I fucking hate this "compiler".
I fired it up like 20 minutes ago and I already hate this shit.
 
user1804599
Fun fact: compilers are the only programs that can ICE.
 
I imagine other programs find it hard to error inside a component they don't have.
 
user1804599
With UB you’ll never know!
 
10:32 PM
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Q: How does ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็_(ツ)_ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ work?

user3242501Can someone explain how the ascii characters like this ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็_(ツ)_ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ break line?

^^ um...
 
user1804599
Those tags.
 
Looks like it got PHP'ed.
 
user1804599
:D
 
This is a dupe, but I can't type enough of the characters to find it. — Charles 45 secs ago
rofl
 
WTF FF UI has gone weird...
 
user1804599
10:46 PM
When I'm about to write PHP: http://t.co/iceJAF62yP
 
fug i lig dat mem : -DDDD DDDDDDDDDDD D
 
Aarghh! FF update, yet another aparrently pointless UI change. fuck you Mozilla.
 
user1804599
Use Chromium.
 
@rightfold Yeah, OK, but it still works.
 
Oh yeah.
Australis finally reached Stable.
 
10:52 PM
@Rapptz 'Australis' WTF telkitty wrote this?
 
No.
It's been planned for at least 9 months.
 
@Rapptz ..and I've been given it without choice.
 
I like it
 
Oh look - the tabs have got nice, rounded ends. Sure, this means that there is less room for text-rendering inside the tabs, but it does prevent stress-concentrations on the sharp edges from initiating cracks that can propagate.
AKA 'fucking stupid'.
 
11:08 PM
@rightfold Nu bijv?
> Container::template nth_index<RA> ::type::const_iterator -- template wankery
 
THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH! The wheel has come off my pizza cutter:((((
I'll just have to hack at it with a chef knife for now.
 
whoa, a new call of duty is going to be announced soon
/s
I'm sure this one'll sell even more than the last
 
11:29 PM
PS. You should profile whether it is faster to just std::stable_sort a vector of Entry... Much simpler: Live On Coliru: 43 LoCsehe 10 secs ago
 

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