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4:01 PM
ugh
array of runtime bounds?
so they finally added what every compiler on earth support since 15/18
I'm glad
 
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@Jefffrey 15/18?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh, right: It's common here in Italy to say "since 15/18" referring to years we were "fighting" in the WW1.
 
Get on with times
WW2 is what cool kids reference these days
@melak47 Good job
 
>_>
 
You either fucked up source encoding, or use ANSI functions
 
4:17 PM
WW2 is much more interesting than WW1.
 
user1804599
WW3 is much more interesting than WW2.
 
@Jefffrey I see
 
@rightfold ww3schools
 
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wwwwww.ww3schools.com
 
@Jefffrey that boat looks interesting
 
4:23 PM
man, the days of decent questions are certainly behind us
 
once all questions are answered SO is done
 
@CatPlusPlus It's not like Italy is particularly fond of remembering WW2 tbh
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit I’d just ask “ben je doof ofzo?”
 
Oh man I've eaten too many choco nuts
I'm feeling sick
 
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Oh man I've eaten too many coconuts
 
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4:27 PM
I'm feeling slick
 
@rightfold you are always slick :)
 
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Smooth and slick.
 
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Like an ice cube.
 
C combines performance of an assembly language with the flexibility of an assembly language. — dasblinkenlight 25 mins ago
lol
 
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It’s an old joke.
 
4:34 PM
you are such an oldfag
 
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> C combines the flexibility and power of assembly language with the user-friendliness of assembly language.
 
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lol
 
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And from xkcd:
 
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> Functional programming combines the flexibility and power of abstract mathematics with the intuitive clarity of abstract mathematics.
 
4:38 PM
lol
 
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> It should be noted that no ethically-trained software engineer would ever consent to write a 'DestroyBaghdad' procedure. Basic professional ethics would instead require him to write a 'DestroyCity' procedure, to which 'Baghdad' could be given as a parameter.
 
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lul
 
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> For every complex problem, there is an algorithm that is simple, elegant, and wrong.
 
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Love this one.
 
he he
I wish I could write a book about this story
 
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4:41 PM
@Jefffrey I too know such a programmer: Cat Plus Plus.
 
cat is not crazy... is he? Edit: Thanks for the kind star, stranger.
 
user1804599
No problem.
 
I haven't broken down yet
Crippling depression doesn't count
"Computers are predictable in their behavior and when they are unpredictable, it's nothing personal. This draws in a LOT of people who don't quite get other humans." Truth in the internet
 
why depressed?
 
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4:49 PM
why not Zoidberg?
 
cos it is fun to write code?
 
lol
@JohanLarsson have you considered that maybe code has nothing to do with his depression?
 
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It is code to write fun.
 
@Jefffrey I have no idea about what the depression is about
^ reads strangely
 
@JohanLarsson neither do I, but I highly doubt coding has anything to do with it
especially considering that's the only thing he seems to be able to still do with his crippling depression
 
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4:52 PM
inb4 mass murder in Legnica.
 
@Jefffrey :)
 
Coding is his only hope ;)
 
gf sounds like a code review when she drives, steady stream of wtfs
 
user1804599
Cat you need love go sleep with Jefffrey.
 
I'm horrible with cats, remember?
 
user1804599
4:54 PM
He is actually a human.
 
user1804599
Cats don’t speak English.
 
oh
 
I think incrementing a cat gives a dog
 
Coding is p much the only thing I can do period
@JohanLarsson No way
 
what do you get then?
 
4:57 PM
@CatPlusPlus And you're not even terribly good at that
 
I'm better than you, that's enough for me
 
@rightfold yeah, only 10 hours
 
@CatPlusPlus but why so depressed?
 
Everything's terrible
 
4:59 PM
no I have plenty of evidence of the opposite
 
you are not going to talk about the magic of friendship and love, right?
 
I've too much sugar in my blood already
 
I have low battery and 300 km drive left
 
recharge it with your love
 
5:01 PM
gonna bring it when we stop and eat and try to find a place to charge it
 
@JohanLarsson inb4 engine seizeup 'cos no cooling 'cos no water pump 'cos no fanbelt.
 
'> 24 h battery would be nice
also annoying that battery life is 50% of what the spec says when doing very little with the computer
 
@JohanLarsson Oh - THAT battery...
 
actually drained the car battery yesterday, forgot the lights on. Was a snowstorm so I drove with headlights on even if it was day to make me more visible. When stoipping the wind was so loud I did not hear the beep.
was really lucky to find a guy who could help really quick
 
@JohanLarsson I did that last year when I drove home at night with phone/earbuds on - did not hear the squeak. Yes, the other loungers did take the piss...
 
5:46 PM
@TonyTheLion Having fun?
 
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5:57 PM
@JohanLarsson ugh, systems that do not account for low battery conditions.
 
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Dat avatar.
 
oh my
apparently he is an expert in 1++
 
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One ++ is better than C++; it lacks the C part.
 
C++ still doesn't have restrict as of C++11?
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit That reminds me of this.
 
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@Mysticial No, but any decent compiler supports it anyway so you should be fine.
 
@rightfold Right. Except that they all have different names for it.
Whatever the case. I don't see MSVC using it. So the point is moot.
 
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@Mysticial They all use restrict for it.
 
6:18 PM
Not MSVC.
 
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> decent compiler
 
It uses __restrict
@rightfold Ah... I see what you did there. :)
 
user1804599
#if msvc
#define restrict __restrict
#endif
 
user1804599
Or perhaps.
 
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#if msvc
#define MYSTICIAL_RESTRICT __restrict
#else
#define MYSTICIAL_RESTRICT restrict
#endif
 
6:19 PM
That's not as bad as this hack that I already have:
//  Intel Compiler 13 doesn't have "final".
#if defined __INTEL_COMPILER && __INTEL_COMPILER <= 1310
#define final
#endif
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
What do you need final for?
 
To help the compiler devirtualize.
 
user1804599
Your code exhibits UB. :P
 
:)
 
user1804599
6:22 PM
It will optimise out everything!
 
ICC 14 has final. But I only have 13.
It's only a one version hack. :)
 
Don't define keywords
Or contextual identifiers, whatever they call the new ones
 
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Oh, right, it’s contextual.
 
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Nevermind then.
 
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6:24 PM
Cat, what did you do this weekend?
 
Sleep, Crawl, code review
 
user1804599
Sounds fun.
 
would be better if you said #define struct_final(X) struct X final and in the other case struct X. so that you don't have "final" replaced everywhere
 
This jam seems to be fairly quiet
 
user1804599
It’s boring.
 
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6:25 PM
24 hours is too many.
 
We should maybe get a blog platform for the longer ones, like 7drl
 
ah indeed or just MY_FINAL instead of final xD
 
So updates don't get drowned away
 
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Nobody would ever visit it, so it would be pointless.
 
Interested people would visit it
 
user1804599
6:26 PM
They don’t exist.
 
The issue is finding a non-sucky blog platform
(That is, not Wordpress)
 
user1804599
Jekyll. :v
 
Maybe Drupal
 
user1804599
Build one with Django like everybody else does.
 
:effort:
I still need to write auth frontend
Because noooobody will
 
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6:28 PM
It is not needed.
 
Do you want to register separately for every new thing
 
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I don’t mind.
 
I mind, because managing permissions is a pain :v
 
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Full permission for everyone!
 
I'd also like a dashboard-type thing, where you can one-click create projects on YouTrack, TeamCity etc
 
6:30 PM
So how are the folks in the jam doing?
 
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Not.
 
They all died
rip
 
@rightfold yeah
bet The Times regretted going in for that one
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes from what I can gather when I asked last time, it is ongoing, and some people are claiming to partake, but no one wants to own up to doing anything.
 
is the game jam finished?
 
6:39 PM
it's till 7
not sure which 7 though
UTC?
 
20 minutes left
 
is there are page for which teams are who?
 
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I don’t know what to do.
 
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6:41 PM
Weekends are so extremely boring.
 
is @R.MartinhoFernandes around?
 
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Gonna work on Hexapoda I think.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ergh... you're not one of those idealistic people who think Scotland should be 'independent' despite that fact it simply cannot afford to do so?
 
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@CatPlusPlus does email work on LoungeNET?
 
6:45 PM
Outgoing only
 
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Like, does YouTrack actually send emails?
 
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> Password restore instructions sent to [rightfold]
 
user1804599
But I didn’t receive anything. :P
 
oh yeah... I should check out my email thingy :P
 
6:45 PM
Your account is imported, maybe email is broken
 
user1804599
OIC.
 
Yeah, it's set to the username
 
@thecoshman I'm incredibly idealistic in real life. As for Scotland... I'm not familiar enough with the case.
 
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lolwut
 
JIRA import vOv
 
6:46 PM
wait what
is jam 3 now?
 
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If I enter rightfold as username, it says the username is incorrect, but if I create new account with username rightfold it says that username is already taken. :S
 
what the hell
i suck.
 
Because it is
 
I suck so much.
4
 
@BartekBanachewicz for like 10 more minutes
 
6:47 PM
@rightfold I've fixed your email, reset now
 
that's fucking great
 
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Oh, I got the instructions. Thanks.
 
I can code a number guessing game in 10 minutes
fuckshit balls
 
@BartekBanachewicz 9 :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz I was actually suprised not to see you in the list
 
6:48 PM
@AndyProwl I wasn't there for a few days and I thought it will be next weekend
 
There will be a next one
 
well I was kinda busy troughout the weekend anyway
our studio is nearly done with
and I am officially an expert on PA gear
 
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lol the frontpage issue is a show-stopper.
 
now we only need a guitarist that doesn't suck
which will take much longer than drilling holes in the ceiling for acoustic panels I guess
 
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@BartekBanachewicz electric guitar?
 
6:49 PM
@rightfold yep.
(I was talking about myself in case you didn't notice)
 
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@rightfold We want it done before we ask JetBrains to come and evaluate us :v
 
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@CatPlusPlus OIC. :P
 
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The 10-user trial is infinite though, right? We use it at work currently.
 
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6:50 PM
Nice.
 
Also I'm upgrading it now, so it'll be offline for a minute!
 
what have you folks coded in the jam?
 
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JIRA was as cluttered as the old Bitbucket was.
 
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And Confluence isn’t too clear either.
 
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Atlassian should hire new UX people.
 
6:52 PM
guys, i'm talking with the folks on std-discussion, and we seem to be stuck
 
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Good. No more new features for C++.
 
what's the git command for unstaging a whole folder?
 
git reset --soft
 
git reset --soft folder?
 
6:55 PM
@rightfold the only goof thing I've seen from them is free private hosting
 
Or --mixed actually
 
ok since I have no idea what I'm doing I'd rather make a copy
 
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@thecoshman why is that goof?
 
user1804599
It’s great.
 
git status tells you how to unstage
Or just use SourceTree or something
 
6:57 PM
great, thank you
git reset HEAD
 
so can I somehow force compiler to not optimize some calculations?
 
Yeah --mixed is default for reset
 
@rightfold goof => fucking good
 
I need to benchmark a function, but in release I am not using the output so it's not being executed at all
 
shit, no
I've dome something wrong
 
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6:58 PM
goof |guːf| informal, chiefly N. Amer.
noun
1 a mistake: one of the most embarrassing goofs of his tenure.
2 a foolish or stupid person.
 
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@thecoshman nope.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then use it
 
@CatPlusPlus to do what? anything I'll do with it will affect the timings
 
@rightfold language changes
 
I guess summing the results might be small enough...
 
6:59 PM
Put it in a volatile global
Or somethin
 
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Let’s make this Org mode stuff for Hexapoda.
 
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Gotta do something.
 
> variance is severely inflated by outliers
uh
that's not good I guess.
 
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start timer;
auto result = function();
stop timer;
print result;
print end - start;
 
I'm using nonius
eh fuck it it's ~270ns vs ~155ns
good enough to show the difference
 
7:03 PM
Who's collecting the repos?
 
I don't even know who and where
 
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I could also work on Frameless.
 
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Blergh this day is so boring.
 
@rightfold you could have joined the jam
evening
 
Well anyway, my Shit 2 is here
 
7:07 PM
@AndyProwl why the sea star'
?
 
user1804599
The starfish is his avatar. :v
 
h wait it's your avatar
righ
 
lol
yes
 
where do I put my entry?
 
@AndyProwl then why is it your avatar
 
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7:08 PM
Also unit testing CSS is a pain.
 
last time there was a spreadsheet with repo links
 
hello
Dang. Shit 2 is finally released
 
robot is gone => chaos
 
NooOoO
@BartekBanachewicz help us!1!
 
@rightfold what's to unit test?
 
user1804599
7:09 PM
Column widths of my grid system. :v
 
@melak47 oomph
dunno, get a spreadsheet and put the stuff in it
somebody will enter that on wiki then
 
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var firstColumn = document.querySelector('#double-width-test > div > div:nth-child(1)');
var secondColumn = document.querySelector('#double-width-test > div > div:nth-child(2)');
var first = (firstColumn.offsetWidth * 2);
var second = (secondColumn.offsetWidth - 40);
assert('double-width-test', Math.abs(first - second) <= 2);
 
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Silly stuff like this.
 
calm the fuck down everybody
 
I'm sorry but I've realized that I have an assignment due tomorrow
 
7:09 PM
awards will begin next week
there's time
 
@Jefffrey I planned to design a language called C* => "sea star" => starfish
Never got to the implementation
 
nice
 
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nice
 
hey!
 
7:10 PM
nice
 
you should promote it on lightnesspyramid.com
 
stahp
 
@AndyProwl you could say it was...C&
2
 
how come my Xbox ports weren't forwarded on my router hmmmmm
 
@melak47 terrible
 
7:11 PM
no wonder I was getting bad lag
 
@melak47 * put glasses *
 
@melak47 lol
 
@AndyProwl what were the features?
 
@Jefffrey A different model for extension/inheritance
nothing worth talking about, really
 
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C^^
 
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7:14 PM
C Up Up!
 
I wanted to call mine C@ in honor of Cat++
 
ok so who's got something to try?
 
@Borgleader ohhh, C at I get it
i?m so fucking smart
 
Have a cookie
 
where's it?
 
7:17 PM
In the headers
 
ho ho ho
nic
why did I join stackoverflow?
 
So, who else was doing a thing
 
@melak for sure
 
Yeah I see
 
rightfold also had something
 
@rightfold phf, that's exponential fool
 
@melak47 windows only?
 
yeah :/
 
:c
 
@melak47 woah
I wouldn't even know where to start from if I wanted to write that thing
 
7:25 PM
I started with making it draw things. then failed to get the game mechanics working 100% :v
also, UI and other kinds of feedback that tell you if you're winning are for losers :v
 
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Fucking <textarea>.
 
@rightfold What about your game?
 
user1804599
I never made a game.
 
ah, I thought you were working on some spacewar thing
 
@AndyProwl that wasn't part of the jam
 
7:29 PM
ah, I see
so it was just me and melak who were playing the jam?
 
hah, my stuff actually does work somewhat! the cubes turn green when their values get higher, I just didn't test long enough to see any of it :p
 
@rightfold relevant this morning ^
 
@thecoshman repost
 
@Jefffrey yes the TV posted it a while ago
 
7:32 PM
or maybe not
 
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lol
 
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C-x C-s works on JSFiddle. Awesome.
 
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Because C-s works and C-x does nothing. :v
 
that was definitely a dejavu
 
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This is why I hate CSS: jsfiddle.net/2a5Fc/6
 
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7:34 PM
Most beautiful vertical alignment ever.
 
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Woo. vertical-align: text-bottom; did the trick.
 
...
it's time for me to eat, watch some house of cards and goto bed
 
@AndyProwl oops, I think I broke your game. I walked onto the ball and then it disappeared, and pressing H does nothing :E
 
user1804599
text-bottom seems better.
 
7:43 PM
lern2distribute
 
welp so time is out and in the end I didn't do anything =(
 
hmm
I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow and no idea when.
I guess that some kind of electronic record would be too advanced for a government system
 
so...two entries? nobody else made anything? :/
 
@melak47 prolly didn't put them in
 
well it was IEM this weekend
 
7:55 PM
I don't know any other ones
Jam gets the 'best organisation' award
Nobody even knows who's participating
 
this isn't a jam... it's peanut butter!
 
I believe that's principally because it appears that hardly anyone actually wanted to
 
I have a p hectic week
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