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12:00 AM
yeh who doesn't want the name john.... O_O
 
@rlemon Why you misunderstand me?!?
 
Wow, two flags in one day.
 
@rlemon When if affects you i will have no choice but to laugh at your misery
 
@Connor Could you define "Defensive" for me?
 
@SomeKittens NOU!
 
12:01 AM
@SomeKittens Getting angry when i say bad things about the gov
 
@Connor but then your supporting the actions what your trying to stop
 
@Connor but it doesn't affect me. have you not been in this room before? this is my monday night dude. you turned into my escape from video games.
 
@Dave don''t get me wrong there is people that deserve it.
 
@Connor Hmm. Based on your ALL CAPS direct insult, it seems that you're getting angry. According to your logic, that proves @rlemon's points.
 
what game you currently into ?
 
12:02 AM
@SomeKittens :)
 
@Connor of course. but not doing anything about it but preaching about how bad it all is seems like you want some one else to sort it for you
 
@Dave A bunch. Planetside 2, Awesomenauts, Magicka
 
@SomeKittens has seen me get angry at a user.
 
@Lucio Uh oh
 
I can assure you, in this case it is comical to all but you
 
12:02 AM
neat i been playing bastion .
 
yep
 
and if you are laughing, we are not for the same reason
 
@SomeKittens No, i just had to do that because he called me a idiot earlier so he had to have it back
 
@Dave Bastion!
 
@Dave dude, FUCKING AWESOME GAME!
 
12:02 AM
Does somebody use Poedit or something to compile PHP into .po files?
 
i was listening to the OST on youtube got me to play it again xD
 
played it four times through
 
Love the dynamic narration
 
they making another in future?
 
no plans :(
 
12:03 AM
it was a hit though right?
 
@Connor So when he calls you an idiot, he's defensive and it proves your points, but when you retaliate, you're somehow not a kid with a playground-level retort?
 
@rlemon Ok, well I'm off to listen to some bullshit now, you sleep well tonight, while the soldiers are pretesting you from the bad bad terrorists.
 
@Dave as far as I know it was.
 
@Jeremy Have you used PHP?
 
wait soliders are protecting the civilians in afghan
 
12:04 AM
@Lucio Oh, yes yes yes. More than Javascript. Why are you asking this in the Javascript room?
 
You have answered your own question.
 
@SomeKittens I actually did it to see if the room went in gallery, because that's the usual case, I'm not angry
 
@Connor dude, you are a turd. CANADA dumb dumb. we have no soldiers. we have no terrorists. we have only snow and nice times.
and ignorance UKers on the fucking internet (not all)
 
oi im british!
 
see the (not all) edit ;)
 
12:05 AM
damn you conner your giving us bad rep now
 
@rlemon Canada does actually have the top anti-terrorist specOps team in the world.
 
@SomeKittens 4 guys against no one. Pretty effective ;)
 
@Dave Well his queen is british soo...
& dutch**
 
@Connor Queen holds NO power in Canada
 
12:06 AM
our queen is german
 
@rlemon Queen is your queen
 
no they are a common wealth
 
in fact isn't even required to pass any laws for many decades now. We allow her to keep the title in affiliation to the Governer General as a compliment
 
@Connor Absolutely. Any justifications by you are rock-solid, while @rlemon's are paper thin, despite rlemon's actually having weight.
 
Ughhh people confuse me
 
12:07 AM
@rlemon Canada is part of the British empire you don't allow her shit.
 
lol
 
the queen mainly just country relationship building and charity stuff nothing more
 
@rlemon Interesting, here in Aus we have a Governor General that represents the Queen, as she's still technically the Executive power (albeit ceremonial)
 
we dont have a british empire! that ended longgg ago
 
Is there a serious problem going on here or are these flags joking
 
12:07 AM
Canada is not part of the British empire you ignorant numbskull.
@minitech Connor
I assume he is the flagger as well as the initiator
 
@rlemon So this is “serious”
 
this will explain it all @Connor
 
Also, he’s not the flagger
 
ahh, ok
 
12:08 AM
watch that itll explain the common wealth etc
 
@minitech nothing serious here.
move along
 
(Only his message is flagged anyways)
 
@minitech i have never flagged a message in this room @rlemon
 
BUT connor did say British empire owns canada.
 
@minitech I flagged, it was getting a bit much (direct insult).
 
12:08 AM
british empire doesn't even exist its disbanded years ago
 
I, too, flagged
 
how do you feel about that fellow Canadian ??
 
So you are being serious
And yes, you two, I know :P
 
for the record: I didn't flag. I don't need to bother mods.
I can lock down the room if I feel it need happen
 
this is too fun to flag
 
12:09 AM
How does the flagging system work anyways? Is it all mods or just 10K+ users?
 
flagging isn't fun
it's annoying to all
 
Okay, somebody tell me what I need to do with the messages here.
 
pings ALL users in ALL rooms 10K +
 
conner when ever your in here my productivity goes to 0
 
It’s your room after all
 
12:09 AM
@minitech Why do you browse with Javascript disabled?
 
@Dave Yeah, that's what you think.
 
@minitech i'd leave it - we'll calm down - I promise or I will gallery the room
 
@Jeremy JavaScript sucks mostly
 
m59
@Jeremy ahhh I remembered why Angular does it this way. It lets me use DI to pass other services to the constructor.
 
@rlemon Okay. Thanks :)
 
12:10 AM
flagged
 
@minitech But it's on right now?
 
@Connor the british empire gave the countries back to their rightful owners.. some took it by war like usa
 
@minitech twas my one and only joke
 
@minitech I'd like you to mute Connor for some time, he's stirring up trouble here on a regular basis.
 
@SomeKittens did you flag rlemons direct insult?
 
12:10 AM
@SomeKittens we can gallery him if need be
 
aww but its entertainment
 
THIS BE THE DECREE OF THE ROOM: SHUT UP AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT! ~ so speaks the lemon
1 message moved to Trash can
 
always expect the canadian inquisition led by rlemon
 
I'd say this is out of hand =/
 
12:12 AM
Who likes puppies?
 
I'm hungry
 
@Dave you know it! snow cone. poutine?
 
@copy Puppy soup?
 
goldens are the best
 
Kittens are the best.
 
12:13 AM
This is the craziest room that I have ever been :D
JavaScript rocks!
 
@Jeremy Correct
 
i like king charles
 
@monners Ok
 
@Lucio you are welcome
 
@rlemon Hi, how you doing?
 
12:14 AM
@Lucio It's not usually like this =/
 
@Jeremy oh it is lol
 
lol
 
@Connor I kindly request you do not talk to me now or in the future. I don't like you. you annoy me greatly. Thanks for your ongoing support in this request.
 
just reading all the star's on the right lol such a random assortment of shite
 
@rlemon Your request has been accepted as I don't like you and you are one of the ones, see you at the temple.
 
12:15 AM
user image
2
 
what browser is that jeremy?
 
@Jeremy as a room owner I cannot allow myself the privilege to do so. I realized a while back (okok) that ignoring users didn't allow me to properly do my duties as a room owner.
 
@Dave Firefox
 
oh you changed the appearance from default then
 
@Dave Nope
It's the default theme
 
12:17 AM
FF on Ubuntu (looks like)
 
black :S ?
ahh
 
@Jeremy I don't like if google index my name in that picture.
 
still for me nothing quite beats chrome's dev tools
 
^
 
@Connor What do you mean...? I don't think it will
@Dave I agree but I like Mozilla better
If Chrome was created by Mozilla I'd use it no doubt... I just switched to Fx today
 
12:19 AM
@Jeremy so you didn't click the button then? so it was just to take the piss?
 
@Connor Yes, I haven't ignored you.
 
@Jeremy Yes, SO chat is worth it.
Y’know. Flags and duties and such.
 
im quite surprised how good the performance of canvas is in latest version of IE
but i can't forgive its history.
 
@Dave in fact they render (a little less than) 30 FPS
then compute all of them, but what they render is different.
so it gave them a perf spike.
but it's cheating if you ask me
 
thats an unusual way to do things
 
12:22 AM
Oh, did I miss a browser debate?
 
nope, he just piped in with a IE canvas thingy so I noted that.
 
Firefox removed the option to turn off JavaScript! And so now I’m using Chrome.
 
really o_0
 
It’s buggy, though!
I might go Dillo or ELinks later.
 
maybe its in dev tools settings like chrome has
can also disable cache in there which is useful
 
12:23 AM
this is one of my fish tanks
love it! i know you do
 
2 fish ?
 
no there are four. two are hiding
 
got any sea horses?
 
@minitech one of us... one of us...
 
nope, those things are pointless.
 
12:24 AM
why?
 
need like $2000 setup and they only live for like a year
they eat CONSTANTLY
 
oh they fussy with water quality?
 
literally, constantly. it is impossible to keep up with them
well no, they need a larger tank and they need to be alone.
 
you adding any thing else to the eco system later?
 
the small 30gal tank you see in the picture above is probably $1500 worth of crap not including the coral or fish.
 
12:25 AM
dont get the praying mantis shrimp itll punch your glass out
 
@Dave only some of them, and depends on the glass.
 
theres one which can punch at serious speed
 
disclaimer: i've been keeping reef tanks / aquariums for many many years now ;)
 
@rlemon How long did you stick with freshwater before diving into salt?
 
i want really colourful fish in mine when i buy one
 
12:26 AM
@monners had fresh as a kid growing up, moved into salt when I was 17 and got my first software job
 
Had a 55gal fresh for four years, was thinking about moving over to salt
 
salt is not a cheap hobby.
seriously.
 
lol, no shit
 
I'm not allowed to even have a goldfish.
 
But it's pretty
 
12:27 AM
doesnt the tank need cleaning due to all the salt?
@SomeKittens lol why?
 
Apartment regulations
 
55gal tank / just in rock you are looking to spend ~$400
 
@rlemon you've got a cycling take under that one?
 
wow thats over kill strict
 
even more if you get pre seeded rock.
 
12:28 AM
you could make your own tank if you buy the glass and put it together
 
@monners sump/refugium - and no. not on that one
that has a bio filter built into the unit
 
user1125394
not even wanting to have a pet, so fishes..
 
my 46gal has a 10gal sump/refugium
 
i used to have a tank with 4 terrapins they were damn fussy and eventually got so big i had to give them to a zoo
 
ok well lets put into perspective: it is fun as shit hobby! but to get started you will need probably about $700 - $1000 depending on tank size (this is for a good starter size, 30-40gal)
 
12:30 AM
what part of it do you find the most fun
 
tank and stand will be a few hundred. that you can get on sale cheap usually... lights... lights will run you a few hundred alone. if you want corals... even more. rock - you need live rock which is about $7/lb, and you need a pound per gallon of water. you need a filter OR a sump with a refugium (few hundred, as it is a whole new tank and setup). you want a skimmer ($75) and power heads ($150 total) and you will need sand / substrate and a heater.
you also need pumps for the sump to the tank, and a overflow box + plumbing to put it back into the sump
this is all just to maintain the water quality
feeding and cleaning / testing the shit is another story
@Dave sitting in front of it and staring at the little eco system i have created
 
@rlemon It's totally worth it.
 
after it is all set up - with a nice sized tank - probably only $30/mo in food + salt (averaged)
 
Labor of love
 
depending on your local water quality you also should invest in a RO unit
having to purchase water is so expensive.
 
user1125394
12:34 AM
they look happier in sea though :)
 
RO units have great ROI!
 
@cx in reality they live on average twice as long in captivity
 
user1125394
less predators :))
 
less predators + more frequent food === long life for fishies in captivity
with the exception of a few, i.e. seahorse.
some things are just meant to be in the ocean.
mostly things that can't adapt to variant changes. most fish and corals are ok to a few degrees diff or a slight flow change, or less / more food at one point or another.
 
I have a soft spot for tropical bottom-feeders. They're so delicate and futile
 
12:37 AM
monners you would love my tigertail sea cucumber
18" long!
he is a beast.
 
That's impressive. I mean, damn.
 
I've started calling him hoover.
 
user1125394
I was so scared by cucumbers when I was in carribean
 
nahh, they are little condoms filled with water
 
user1125394
some was taking them with hands
 
12:39 AM
seriously, pick one up.
that is what they feel like
 
user1125394
also there were lot of these unfriendly
 
want a cool underwater critter. Bubble Coral.
this guy is insane.
@cx urchins are not so bad if you don't step on them.
 
user1125394
yep, barefoot, fortunately never happened
 
they are cool because they pick up things with their spikes (which are actually like little suction cups at the end) and carry them around with them as protection from other things
so if they snag some coral they end up being a moving reef.
 
user1125394
you're a fucking encyclopedia :) funny
 
12:43 AM
I like aquarium stuff :/
 
When I do "git push" to remote repo, it asks for my username and password. But I did create an SSH key (it's both in my ~/.ssh folder and on GitHub). How can I make "git push" use that key and not ask for credentials?
 
@cx Where in the config can I set this?
 
user1125394
just do git config...
 
@cx git config what?
 
user1125394
$ git config --global user.name "John Doe"
$ git config --global user.email johndoe@example.com
 
@cx I've done that already. That's not related to my issue.
I'm talking about username and password here.
Notice how user.name is not the same as the GitHub username.
 
1:16 AM
 git remote set-url origin git@github.com:username/repo.git
 
user1125394
yep, and what does git remote -v says
 
origin is already set up. (The URL)
 
user1125394
git: or https: ?
 
^
 
https
 
1:17 AM
git it
 
Aha
 
user1125394
yep
 
never https
Fork it, use it, break it, fix it,
Comm it, push it, pull - request it,
Fetch it, branch it, patch it, fake it,
Merge it, git it, never - https it.

Write it, cut it, paste it, save it,
Build it, check it, quick - rewrite it,
Clone it, crack it, crop it, comp it,
Drag and drop it, gzlib - gzip it.

Protect it, pub it, grep it, drop it,
view it, code it, bug - just doc it,
Scrape it, scroll it, refresh and click it,
Copy it, paste it, rm - and erase it.

Name it, watch it, follow it, star it,
Gist it, encode it, salt - md5 shit,
 
That's just what was already set up. (I used the Windows GitHub GUI before)
 
@rlemon Someone needs to make that into a rap
 
1:20 AM
it is...
 
user1125394
I tried also their GUI 1 minute, then used their git Bash, and doing some gitk if I really want to see things (on windows)
 
@rlemon Could you give an example of git@github.com:username/repo.git. Where does the username, password and repo url go?
 
@ŠimeVidas well if I have my ssh keys set.
say lememe is myrepo
git@github.com:rlemon/lememe.git
 
m59
...
 
@monners
 
m59
1:21 AM
somehow I passed an object by value.
 
m59
Isn't that NOT possible??
NM, lolz
 
@monners mine is just a 'remake'
 
Schweet
 
m59
combination of an unwanted console.log of a function call and forgetting the () when I did want to call that function
 
1:26 AM
How do you rename properties of an object in place? Or is there no way? I don't think it can be done.
 
@rlemon OK, got it thanks. I still have to enter my SSH pass phrase. (The Windows helper for that requires installing .NET 4.0, I think.)
And I definitely won't install the .NET monster just for that.
 
user1125394
just once for the key, then it's saved
 
oh, good :)
 
This question appears to be off-topic because it is about modification of asker's code (not useful to future readers) — Jan Dvorak 19 secs ago
 
What's cv?
 
1:34 AM
closevote
 
Aha
Love the "milliseconds" and "seconds" tags :)
Why is it called "git checkout"?
As in check out?
 
as in, you're leaving the repository, leaving your changes behind
check in = download the latest revision for modifications
check out = upload some changes and unlock the file
 
Hm, yea, I'll figure it out eventually.
 
Git is awesome for VC, I had never used VC, followed the Tuts on their site and github, found a article on the web about formatting, and I was set
 
Thank goodness the basic stuff (add/commit/push) is easy to understand :)
That's all I need for now.
 
1:43 AM
check out = commit and unlock
(or is it the other way around?)
 
checkout if I remember correctly just looks at the proper branch
 
Dear Javascript gods,

I offer you a sacrifice in the form of a fiddle driving me nuts. Please help. I'm sure it's a rookie mistake. <3 http://jsfiddle.net/yPX4F/
 
@VaughanHilts Open the console. There is an error.
 
I checked, illegal token. I have no idea why.
 
not only that, but your final ) is a string
 
1:46 AM
MOTHERFUCKER LINE BREAK.
 
yup lol
the wonders of jsfiddle
I have a good question for the vets in the room
 
I don't know any veterinaries in this room
 
@VaughanHilts [FIXED] jsfiddle.net/yPX4F/2
 
is jquery append() reliable? is it regexing that string or what?
 
Sure.
What else could it do.
 
1:50 AM
Well it could be assuming things and using split
maybe
 
@copy I'm hungry.
 
I dunno, it just seems more reliable to not parse an HTML string like that and do the code in pure JS
 
@BadgerGirl You should eat meat
 
It almost looks exactly the same as doing innerHTML to me
at a glance
 
1:51 AM
I don't have meat.
 
@BadgerGirl Eggs?
 
STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD
 
@ŠimeVidas WHY?
 
I'm hungry too -.-
 
@ŠimeVidas You should eat a pizza
 
1:52 AM
It's 4am
 
Why can't I eat pizza?
 
So?
@BadgerGirl Because it's unhealthy
 
Don't thing any pizza place is open around here
 
Make your own pizza
 
I have peanuts + bread + cottage cheese + tomato ready in the fridge upstairs, anyway
 
1:54 AM
Need more meat
 
That doesn't sound too bad
 
@Event_Horizon Sure. Nothing wrong with .innerHTML. Preferred way to add content to the DOM.
 
I thought .innerHTML shouldn't be used because it can mess the node tree up?
 
You shouldn't use it to serialize the DOM.
 
I'm not quite catching you, what?
 
1:57 AM
innerHTML does both read and write.
 
right
 
write is good, read is bad
 
ok, what if I'm replacing nodes?
 
Well, write to innerHTML
wrapper.innerHTML = theNewStuff;
 
ok, what would constitute reading then? Because I've gotten flamed for using innerHTML to write to the DOM
 

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