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4:00 PM
I got a bag of NicNak's Barbecue.
Deal with it!
 
oh thats how it works
 
Oh god ... they so delicious.
 
NicNacs ?
 
I agree - but I became fat because of em, stopped eating :-P
 
4:05 PM
wut!
 
@Paden Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Finally, good weather. 19°C, cloudy, a tiny amount of wind. Perfect.
 
Erdnußkerne 49 %, Pflanzenöl, Maisstärke, Weizenmehl, Aroma, Zucker, Maltodextrin, Salz, gehärtetes pflanzliches Fett, modifizierte Maisstärke E 1404, Backtriebmittel: Natriumphosphate, Natriumcarbonate, Calciumcarbonat, Geschmacksverstärker: Mononatriumglutamat, Magermilchpulver, Weizen-Paniermehl, Sojaproteine, Schmelzkäsepulver
 
Why do all the good things make you fat? I hate that. :(
 
4:07 PM
it basically consists out of.. shit and waste :p
 
now english please :-)
 
Peanut kernels 49%, vegetable oil, corn starch, wheat flour, flavor, sugar, maltodextrin, salt, hydrogenated vegetable fat, modified corn starch E 1404, raising agent: sodium phosphates, sodium carbonates, calcium carbonate, flavor enhancer: monosodium glutamate, milk powder, wheat bread crumbs, soy protein, cheese powder (courtesy of google translate)
 
learn German !
betrayer !
 
@IvoWetzel thanks
 
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4:10 PM
@ton.yeung I know angular just enough to know I don't want to know more
3
 
I couldn't say it any better
 
Ember for the win, because... well.. it's better (or something)
 
Knockout.js ftw.
 
@ton.yeung I don't like angular
 
requireJS with vanilla JS ftw.
 
4:11 PM
@jAndy Bah, requireJS.
 
@jAndy That's stupid ... they do different things. :D
I mean requireJS obviously.
 
@IvoWetzel you're a browserify guy ?
 
how can it be 2013 and it is still commonly unknown that you can do file IO in browser js
 
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what is the better word
 
4:12 PM
@SomeGuy Did you get my email, btw?
 
Unless you really really really have fully optional parts of your application which you can load delayed. I see no real point in using it. It may be nice during dev, but you can still just have a watch task rebuild your JS file. @jAndy
 
@Zirak I hate you now, you never send me emails. :(
 
@Zirak Yep!
 
@OctavianDamiean What's your email?
 
@ton.yeung not an oxymoron. "commonly unkown" means that most people don't know that
 
4:13 PM
@Zirak odamiean@linux.com
 
@SomeGuy ah, k. You usually end some follow up stuff. But that one mut've been too boring. I'll try using the special thong next time.
 
@IvoWetzel well, the deferred loading of AMD is a nice goody, but as any script loader the foremost reason to use it is to have modular code and dependency resolution right
and I just like the way you do it with require, plus the other goody of r.js
 
Anyway, @ton.yeung Knockout.js > Angular.js
 
@jAndy you can have modular code without one, imo. Also dependency resolution might be nice, but I've often seen it fail (especially in complex scenarios) we added require JS to cocos2d-html5 back when I was at Zynga. Was... fun
 
Absolutely not.
 
4:16 PM
@IvoWetzel didn't know you aren't anymore there ?
 
Care to explain in what way?
 
@jAndy The closed the office down at the beginning of June (cost cutting, focus on native mobile dev...), my contract ended 31st of July (yes, been sitting at home for nearly 2 month on pay) and I did some freelance work in the meantime (well, until yesterday), but the contract was not extended (their project had its budget canceled). So I'm looking for something new all over again
 
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@IvoWetzel That's pretty cool actually.
I mean the sitting at home on pay part.
 
anyway I'd agree that dependency resolution is somewhat overrated. But if comes in quite naturally if you build up your framework/design/whatnot from scratch. Also in combination with pub/sub architectures and promise makers, it feels natural to use it
but of course its no requirement at all
 
4:20 PM
@OctavianDamiean Yeah, I just wish the freelance stuff would have gone on, spend all day doing paper work and phonecalls...
 
@IvoWetzel Does that sound interesting? careers.mozilla.org/de/position/orvIXfwl
 
user1596138
Clicking "inspect element" while viewing source in Chrome is interesting.
 
user1596138
It crashed all pages with the dev console open. And now the console is unresponsive.
 
@OctavianDamiean Hmmm, guess I'll take a look :)
 
user1125394
!!define cumbersome
 
4:22 PM
tons of interesting opportunities out there
 
@cx cumbersome burdensome or hindering, as a weight or drag; vexatious; cumbrous.
 
@OctavianDamiean It sounds interesting to me now writing a resume saying I'm better than Ivo
 
@OctavianDamiean tell me, is it "normal" Austrians actually write in phonetic spelling ? It reads quite funny as native German speaker :-) I always believed Austrian written is actually plain German
 
@dystroy Oh didn't know you were looking for a job.
 
@Esailija I saw your post on my JS question. After looking through your code I see that you are using jsTree. Would this work without the webkit needed directory call and just using the jsTree?
 
4:24 PM
@jAndy Uhm, example?
 
that's not my code
just an example of the webkitdirectory attribute
 
@OctavianDamiean In fact, since 2 days and a discussion with my new boss, I'm less looking... (I'm well paid, I work as much as I want, from home, I may hire if I want, I may choose conferences, etc.)
 
Aaaaahhhhh do griagst in da fria scho die krise...... Zeast a lkw donn a fahrschule und donn 10 autos noch guad dass ma nur bis 11:30 hakln miassn
:-P
 
@aDroidman the point is the ability to select a folder from local filesystem
 
I follow now
 
4:25 PM
all jsTree is just bullshit graphics or whatever.. it doesn't do shit if you cannot access local filesystem
 
@jAndy Ah that's dialect.
 
which translates to something like "AAAhhhhhh da bekommst Du ja schon wieder die Krise" etc.
 
Well, the Styrian version of that would be.
 
Im with you now, thanks!
 
yes you could do a really nice looking trees of files and directories, but without real access to the local filesystem they are just pictures
 
4:27 PM
@dystroy new boss?
 
trees killed my family
 
Not looking for a job anymore?
Anyway, go to dotjs.eu then :p
 
@aDroidman if you want to access the user's filesystem (what good would it be to access your own server?) then all the answers are bullshit too
 
morning, all
 
@jAndy "Aaaahhhhhh, do griagst in da fria schu di kries ... zeast a lkw dau a foaschui und dau zeih autos no, guad dess ma nur bis hoib zwöfe hakln miassn."
That was the Styrian one. :D
 
4:28 PM
@FlorianMargaine Yes. And it's like "If you want to work one hour per day and do others things, that's totally fine". It's harder to find a reason to leave, then...
 
haha
 
@Esailija Well, I actually am wanting to pull files from my server so that I can easily share them with users
 
in HTML / CSS / DOM / webdesign, 52 mins ago, by Dark Ashelin
For 3 years I've been unbinding and rebinding my jQuery events every time I add new elements to my DOM, and today I found out about delegate()...
 
yea its readable and understandable, but I'm wondering if you really write like this over there ?
 
@aDroidman right
 
4:29 PM
say, ... "official writings" for instance
 
@jAndy It's the standard dialect.
@jAndy Nah!
Everything official is in standard German.
 
I see
 
@aDroidman you can do that pretty much out of the box with apache, you don't even have to code anything
 
Woo! Alone at the office. Time to play music very loudly.
 
@Zirak and get naked and dance around the office.
 
4:30 PM
(if you are ok with the shitty graphics)
 
@Zirak I have that luxury for a whole week next week !
I will code naked
 
@OctavianDamiean We also make cameras. That's not a good idea. Considering they record things.
 
Mhmm.
Wait, you make cameras?
 
dang, that was my next question. So there is no way to call apache into a webpage or drop any styles on it?
Let me look at link 1 sec
 
4:31 PM
Zirak works hand-in-hand with the NSA, they need cameras
 
The electronics are made somewhere else
We make the software
 
somewhere else = Taiwan
 
user1125394
jsfiddle.net/EqLBJ/89 a bit ankward since I build one svg per element, I could do all in 1
 
Who says I'm not in Taiwan?
 
user1125394
but that was my first experience with this.
 
4:33 PM
But the factory is about 40km from here.
 
@Zirak can I send a postcard to your office?
 
@Zirak your eyes just don't look Taiwanese
 
@Zirak I got it, but I was out, so I haven't read it yet. So much stuff to do! So many people to get back to -.-
 
@Zirak That's pretty cool.
 
So many pings...
 
user1125394
4:33 PM
@zir .
 
@rlemon I need a Taiwanese version of Zirak smiley ! :-P
 
@Zirak BUT BUT BUT
 
@Esailija Perfect! Thanks man
 
user1125394
so actually now I'll get back to non-Object js
 
 
4:35 PM
@IvoWetzel @dystroy Maybe you'll find something interesting. careers.mozilla.org/de/?icn=tabz
 
@BadgerGirl Sure, if you can figure out where it is.
@SomeGuy You just don't appreciate my efforts!
@OctavianDamiean It is! I remember just beginning work here, they just installed a few in a construction site near a highway, and there were load of flags flapping around in the background towards the night which caused a lot of false-positives. After a few weeks, they weren't picked up anymore.
 
@jAndy Why is there a Jalapeño stuck in his afro?
 
@Zirak Can it be tits?
 
@OctavianDamiean that is a very good and reasonable question!
 
@jAndy That's Chinese
 
4:36 PM
@OctavianDamiean that's a hat
 
@BadgerGirl No, my work address is not tits.
 
@Zirak Oh, I do! I honestly didn't expect that much information, though.
 
I'd love to work there
 
@SomeGuy Information? Alright, relax! Take your time now. What. Kind. Of. Information!?
 
doing the motorboat for a living at tits
 
4:37 PM
@OctavianDamiean The confidential kind.
 
Although in a stream of debugging stuff, I had a row of "got X" (for null checks and the like). That got boring, so the final one was "got milk".
 
@jAndy Mhmmm. Boat ... I should get a boat.
 
hehe
 
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4:41 PM
:-P
 
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hi every body
 
@jAndy ok, what the fuck?
 
Someone here has to do with kendoui?
 
user1125394
 
4:44 PM
@cx He wrote a book on D3.js by the way.
 
user1125394
 
SNDK did no go up 500%...
oh. bogus data.
trololol
 
user1125394
xaranke.github.io/articles/cubism-intro hehe he wants people to install python just to run d3 code :)
 
@OctavianDamiean Send out an application for the prototype thing :)
 
Nice!
@cx No, he assumes you are a real developer, you know that's someone using Linux.
 
user1125394
4:51 PM
ah :))
 
user1596138
Just spent 10 minutes trying to find out why my foreach loop wouldn't work... I'm working in JS right now and I'd written it out as PHP..
 
I won't judge you, it took me three hours to realize that I had a typo in an attribute.
 
user1125394
@OctavianDamiean I meant for client-side code, it's a bit..
 
<link herf="...
@cx It's not a client-side thing.
It's just meant to be a quick webserver for you, the developer, to check it out.
 
user1125394
well it's not hard to click on a foo.html and faster than localho.../
 
4:54 PM
> Navigate to the directory and start a simple webserver there using the python3 -m http.server command.
@cx Yea? SOP?
Any bells ringing?
 
!!> for each(letter in "banana") console.log(letter);
 
@Shmiddty "SyntaxError: missing ( after for"
 
user1125394
sry too much shit in my head currently
 
Most modern webbrowsers will just go
 
meh, works in spidermonkey
 
4:55 PM
if you try to load resources right from filesystem.
 
user1596138
@OctavianDamiean One time rlemon was helping me debug for about 40 minutes and it turned out I put "yext/javascript" on accident...
 
user1125394
@OctavianDamiean ye, just got that it's for ajaxing
 
@Jhawins Yea, it was Bob fixing my typo as well. ;)
 
user1125394
so ok
 
just <script> is fine.
 
4:57 PM
@Zirak can I call you in the office?
 
user1596138
Just a habbit.
 
unless templating, then you use <script type="bananamasher">
 
@BadgerGirl You can certainly try
 
@BadgerGirl You must be the creepiest person I've ever met, I'm not even kidding. :D
 
I am tensed
i am tensed
 
4:58 PM
You are tensed.
 
Whatever you're trying to tell us.
 
yes and am freaking out..
my mum wants my girlfriend to come home and meet her
this is very important in India! The impression of a girl... which is freaking me out :-/ i expected this to be atleast 3 years far in timeline but tomorrow ;-> ,, so shes freaked out and the freaking out is carried over to me :-\
 
man, you are uptight.
 
@Shmiddty Nay u dont understand, its kind of HUGE over here
 
4:59 PM
@Darkyen You should just don't give a shit instead.
 
especially in my family .. Since they are old thought closed minded very conservative people
 
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@OctavianDamiean why shouldn't I ? enlighten me
 
@Darkyen Then say "no"?
 
That is not an option :-/ she demands the girl to show herself
 
5:00 PM
@Darkyen We had that discussion yesterday. Basically it's your life, do whatever pleases you, you're not here to please your parents.
 
Not an option? Your mom is a Sith lord?
 
oh that way...
@Zirak kind of xD
 
That's pretty fucking cool
I'll attend your funeral
 
aint it ?
lmfao
 
Does that mean that @Darkyen is a baby Sith?
A Sithfant.
 
5:01 PM
That explains why i am so abnormal and unstable ?
 
No, Siths are cool, he must've taken his father's side. Probably a Jedi.
 
my father ain't no jedi
 
Wookie?
 
he sometimes remind me of Darth Vader
 
5:03 PM
...you're the offspring of two Sith lords?
 
especially when his argument in any discussion is I am your father
usually i remember nooooooooooooooo.com , [because meh i lose the argument]
 
How old are you again?
 
@OctavianDamiean 20 in 8 days
 
... and you earn your own money?
 
nope, not anymore am broke [physically and economically]
 
5:04 PM
Calling...?
 
woot
FF 23 finally supports <input type="slider">
 
@BadgerGirl call jAndy and Octavien aswell they will laugh the hell out if they hear me
 
Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dota 2 and CS:GO are both on OS X now, no more boot camp needed!
 
@jAndy Huzzah!
 
5:04 PM
just wondered why my slider looks so odd
 
@jAndy yeap it does ...... aint that sexy :D
 
@jAndy ikr. That's pretty cool.
 
@Datsik your country of origin
 
Canada
 
but they skipped type="date" and type="number"
guess thats stuff for version 29 und 33
O_o
 
5:05 PM
@jAndy implementing date on pc screen is bad :P i usually find typing date better and faster
 
@JanDvorak not a fan of angular?
 
on a phone [ its the other way around ]
 
@Shmiddty nope
 
webkit has an "ok implementation".Would be even nicer if they would allow for styling the shadow DOM
 
why's that?
 
5:06 PM
@Zirak did I fail? :(
 
@BadgerGirl As usual.
 
@jAndy shouldn't it be type="range"?
 
yea it is
my bad
 
@Datsik wanna test something ?
 
@jAndy teehee you suck. :D
 
5:08 PM
@Darkyen Wha?
 
@Datsik my latency bitch
 
@OctavianDamiean don't break my heart
 
haha
 
:-> me and octavien tried playing CSGO last night latency whas a whore
 
How
Where was my invite dick heads
 
5:08 PM
@OctavianDamiean btw my latency is about 385 for Austrian players
 
I started playing Dota2
 
@Datsik add me on steam
 
So I could make you guys look silly :)
 
@Darkyen Oh god ...
 
What's your name
 
5:09 PM
"Darkyen", "Darkyen2012"
 
I was curious why SO MANY ppl are playing these kinds of games
 
@OctavianDamiean thats pretty much for most servers
 
I don't enjoy Dota.
 
We need to setup an IRC channel
 
and I figured, SO MANY ppl are dumb and stupid to do so
 
5:09 PM
@Datsik Oh yea? Bring it on, kid!
 
and thats why i dont score much in real server action because i am way too slow
 
But I can't delete Awesomenauts. I said I would yesterday, but I can't do it!
 
@Datsik :-> dont be over confident
 
@OctavianDamiean Top 150 in the world for K/D Ratio with a 2.88 with over 1000 games played SON
 
@Datsik SteamID: ma1nz0r
 
5:09 PM
with a broken hand and touchpad i score 8/8 headshots with a scout 400unit-800unit
 
@Datsik I don't play GO but if I did I'd be there too ... so shaddap
 
What's your username dark
 
I use this fiddle for checking HTML5 input type implmentation: jsfiddle.net/EbXh6/9
 
Darkyen
 
@Datsik How do you even figure?
 
5:12 PM
Whaa?
 
@Datsik last i played Cstrike on lan in here at college my K/D ratio was Infinity
i didn't die :P
 
I don't know where you guys can find those stats.
 
I played professionally last year with 1.6 scored 3rd place for CEVO and 4th place for ESEA-Invite son
 
@OctavianDamiean Its straightway in your 'Awards' menu
@Datsik oh oh that'd be fun son :D
 
@Darkyen There's my K/D?
 
5:13 PM
we might die soon but we sure will give a fight
@OctavianDamiean yes your own.
Awards -> Stats
hahahaha.. there he started playing :D
 
hang on trying to fix my resolution and shit
 
@jAndy Lol... it appears that's the ONLY one they support.
 
@Shmiddty yea I was wondering too
@Shmiddty as I said, they need something to justify the new major release numbers :P
 
Chrome supports most of the ones here: jsfiddle.net/EbXh6/10
weird thing is that chrome supports "datetime-local" but not "datetime"
 
@OctavianDamiean sorry LAGGGGG ..
 
5:21 PM
goddamn it, I have a really hard time working with javascript objects for whatever reason
 
NOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOO NOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOO
 
god I'm sick of people just automatically saying using on instead of a deprecated func is the answer to every question like that
 
Anyone know of a newer version of kryogenix.org/code/browser/sorttable
 
@Shmiddty as far as I figured it, they messed it up also.. change event will not fire when dragging the slider, also.. moving the slider using arrow-keys won't trigget change
Firefox FAIL
 
!!Should I delete Awesomenauts?
 
5:25 PM
@SomeGuy By all means
 
@jAndy it fires on mouseUp, but not while dragging, yes.
chrome fires while dragging
 
webkit does
 
And done!
 
but the arrow-keys thing is really an issue
 
@rlemon I did, I swear :P
 
user1596138
5:27 PM
Whoa! You can drag and drop elements from the inspector??
 
I'm using a range-sliders on several occasions for a huge product of my company, and now my detection for native sliders is positive on FF23, and its messed up like this
 
@jAndy if it's an internal application, you can just have them force people to use a specific browser
 
@Shmiddty its not that easy if the customer is europes biggest publishing house
I have no option but to hardcode my custom slider js solution
(which was in use for Firefox nonetheless so far of course)
I'm wondering how they can release such broken crap anyway
MAJOR release 23.. trollololol
 
@SomeGuy what? Why?
 
@SomeKittens Made procrastinating too easy.
Dinner, be back later.
 
5:35 PM
Ah, fair enough.
 
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Q: Firefox: How do I perform "Move to New Popup Window" on a tab?

lkraavFirefox has a tab bar context menu item "Move to New Window". This will create a new window with all the default window configuration, incl. vertical tabs, location bar and whatever else one might have. I occasionally want to move a web application from regular tab into an "app"-like window, i.e...

 
smoothmouse.com is absolutely amazing, if you're on OS X, @phenomnomnominal @Florian
Removes ALL mouse lag, feels as accurate as on windows
 
:inserts Visual Studio installation disc:
:feels impending sense of dread:
 
5:51 PM
@Datsik Trying it out
Eww. Makes my mouse painfully sluggish.
 
@BadgerGirl To be honest, I just stepped out of the building. So it's possible you didn't.
To clarify, around the time you said that, I had already stepped out of the building.
 
Hello guys
anybody here?
 
nope
 
:P
I had a question
 
But I'm very curious...could you send me (zirak@mail.com, but you already knew that) where you think I work, and why?
 
5:55 PM
I have a webpage, where when I click a radio button, a panel gets updated. I want to submit the form with the new panel (since I am setting some values). I am using mechanize in python
 
@SomeKittens Are you for real? Increase the speed
 
Could you suggest some way to replace some text in the url opened by urllib
is that possible?
 
I'm using it now, has ZERO mouse lag at all
 
@Zirak Sure. :)
 

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