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12:17 AM
ugh
At least that's better than flat-out "we will not write code for you"
 
12:33 AM
I am genuinely interested in what Stack Overflow is if not at minimum partially a "code-for-you" service
 
I didn't say it was much better... ;-)
The generous interpretation is that it's a question-answering service, and so writing code for askers is not the primary goal, even if it's a major part of how programming questions are answered.
Which differs from "we will not write code for you," which implies that we don't answer questions that require writing code for the asker, which is...not the case.
 
I mean sure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I should just add a watch subroutine to my comment monitoring to calculate what percentage on average of their answers are code. I'm sure I'd find some interesting results there.
 
hahaha
We should delete a code-providing answer from the writer every time someone posts one of those comments ;-)
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I of course share your dislike of these, and plenty of people who post them earn mod messages from me.
 
I will once I have enough reputation to accept the answer! — Babi 5 hours ago
Where does this idea come from? I see it a lot.
Found another Oleg and Ryan in the wild
 
@HenryEcker my assumption is that they think the upvote button does it. The checkmark is not clearly a clickable UI item.
 
12:47 AM
Rats. We shoulda put in a circle I guess
But no that definitely makes sense. Up arrow from OP is "approving the answer"
 
@HenryEcker Unironically yes: I don't know why they felt that the up/down buttons needed to be clearly buttons, but not the accept button.
 
It was mentioned. I tend to agree it looks especially unactionable amongst the other buttons.
I also agree consistency makes much more sense to me than anything else.
 
Yep, I had upvoted that.
 
1:06 AM
@HenryEcker imposters! burn them all
 
Banned for impersonation
 
"By the recent decree, anyone with the name Ryan not in possession of M will be suspended indefinitely for impersonation"
 
Only if they're also talking to an Oleg
Or a Henry I guess
 
1:22 AM
a perfect rule
 
1:40 AM
Whooo 10k on Law \o/
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One of 22 users with 10k
 
2:00 AM
@RyanM congrats!
 
Thanks :-)
 
now we need to make a Meta post about it :)
 
2:33 AM
@HenryEcker Join the club. I guess the issue is that we don't have French fries or milkshakes?
@HenryEcker Confusion between upvoting and accepting.
@RyanM Wait, did they reverse course on that change? I forgot all about it! But I'm definitely not seeing it now. So either a userscript I have has been automatically updated to fix it, or it never got implemented.
 
"suggested by @CodeGray" - do you know them perchance, @CodyGray? A long-lost doppelganger?
 
Err.. who?
 
@CodyGray I haven't seen it in a while so I assume so.
 
the famous doppelganger of CodeGary, @CodyGray
ok, ok, context :)
 
Oh, I just skimmed that answer (after your message, but still), and I didn't even notice the shout-out to me.
 
2:41 AM
it was clearly referencing CodeGray, I am not sure why you assumed it was a reference to you!
 
Evidently, I didn't, that's why I didn't notice.
 
joking aside... why do people assign significance to this change when trying to reason about why there aren't many reviewers? Why is that reviewing is a soul-crashing chore not the first argument?
 
Yeah, I don't know. I tried to make that point, but I think it was too opaque for most viewers to understand.
gparyani is using Shog9's answer as evidence for his claim that it "definitely" had an effect, but Shog didn't even say that!
You fixed it, but still no whitespace?
You think I look like a camel?
 
@CodyGray did you know "Well, probably" actually means "Yes, definitely"?
 
I am always learning new things about English.
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Q: How do I say that I am not yet thirty years old?

Reza SaberiI want to translate the following Spanish sentence into English: Tengo menos de treinta años. By the way the speaker of this Spanish sentence means that he/she is not yet thirty years old. I think in English something like the following might be correct but I can't be sure. I am younger than t...

I mean, gee. How, indeed?
 
2:47 AM
@CodyGray dang it, fixed
@CodyGray well, you do resemble a sentence, fair point
 
A life sentence?
 
thankfully, only a grammatical one!
 
I'm so adjective, I verb noun.
 
3:06 AM
oh my adverb
 
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Q: Can getting a larger sized bike make the bike less aggressive?

bakaloloIs it practical to get a slightly larger sized bike and thereby make the seat lower relative to the frame in order to make the bike less aggressive? I'm looking at a Specialized Allez road bike and it looks slightly too aggressive for me so can I get one size larger?

No. Like all animals, as bikes get larger, they tend to get more aggressive.
 
I can hear that bike saying, "This is fine".
 
3:22 AM
better than being an agressive bike. I heard they can chain bite
 
The worst ones are complete cycle-paths.
 
@CodyGray We're waiting to be updated on next steps based on the results of the a/b test (apparently)
 
I wheelie, wheelie hope that doesn't rear its ugly head again.
 
It might cycle back to us, though
 
Eternal recurrence of the same bad ideas
 
3:31 AM
@CodyGray Not really a camel. Though perhaps you look like Pascal
 
There is a distinct resemblance.
> I have made this letter longer than usual, only because I have not had the time to make it shorter.
@cigien, if you're around and have a moment, do you think there's anything in the tag wiki that should be preserved and/or migrated to the tag wiki?
 
@CodyGray it's almost like an ever-spinning wheel of time!
 
 
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5:11 AM
Well, the "active" tab looks amazing right now, @CodyGray :)
 
Because we've completed all the things?
 
well... some... about a hundred to go through :) At least the SEDE query starts to shape up properly in the process
 
The SEDE query for what?
Uncompleted completed things?
Questions on Meta that haven't yet been marked as completed or closed as a duplicate? :-)
Did our policy on links change while I wasn't looking? Why is there such virulent hatred and demands for removal of all answers that contain links?
 
5:26 AM
@CodyGray yup-yup, something close :)
 
Oh. I thought you were doing tag cleanup or something. I thought it was just coincidence that so many were already completed.
Maybe you should, like, raise moderator flags? Otherwise, if I hadn't been looking at the homepage to see your edits and evaluating whether they needed to be retagged, nothing would have been improved.
 
@CodyGray a little bit of everything, actually - tag cleanup, retagging, overall edits, etc
@CodyGray wait...
 
No, saying my name 3 times isn't the equivalent of raising a moderator flag.
 
you weren't looking at my list in the Burnination HQ room this whole time?
 
Hahaha, no.
Don't think I've ever even been in that chat room.
I was using the Active tab and/or the home page, as you already noted.
 
5:30 AM
oh, and here I thought, "oh, look, Cody has joined us in helping bookkeep tag creation requests" :)
the idea is to create a streamlined process for all the other requests (at least an informal one) to make tag curation at least somewhat manageable
 
No, I just put out fires on Meta.
 
ah, I see, the venerable occupation of trying to extinguish the hell incarnate
 
Some would say it's more like Meta 451.
 
5:50 AM
well, they don't call them HMP for nothing
 
Hug Me Please? Hold My Potatoes? Human Microbiome Project? Harmonic mean p-value? Heterogeneous Multi-Processing?
 
hot meta posts :)
 
Oh yeah, they tend to get me hot.
 
they tend to make many hot indeed - maybe we should rename them to Sexy Meta Posts
 
Hurt Me Plenty?
Like the Doom difficulty level
 
5:57 AM
@CodyGray much better, that should definitely be a feature request!
 
But nothing needs to change
Oh, I guess it does actually say "Hot Meta Posts" in the sidebar.
 
certainly worth dev time!
 
Did you notice they added a recommendation not to create new accounts to the question-ban error page?
And also some ungrammatical prose?
I'm not sure why that required dev time, but... it did, and I'm glad it's finally done.
 
@CodyGray yup, seen it - nice... I guess? As if that will stop anyone from trying
but it's good to have it mentioned explicitly, I suppose
 
Yes, at this point, it's all about having rules so we can point to them and say, "we told you so".
 
 
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@CodyGray I just wish it would also mention that doing so will likely result in the ban being applied to the new account immediately
 
 
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2:40 PM
@CodyGray No, not really. The member-function-pointers wiki does additionally mention that they can't be converted to void* like non-member function pointers, but I don't think that's necessary in the wiki.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Eh, do you think that would actually help? I intentionally didn't propose including a specific reason why not because (A) it's best to keep the text on the page relatively short, and (B) it doesn't always immediately ban the new account, and if someone figured out that it didn't, they'd think they found a "workaround", which would motivate them to keep trying it...
@cigien OK, thanks for following up. Merged now.
 
@CodyGray dunno, I don't think anything would help :) What we have here is kind of like putting a "no trespassing" sign and then employing a half-blind 86-yo guard to enforce it
 
Yes
But that's better than having neither the sign or the guard.
Also, occasionally, the roaming partisans find you, and when they do, they execute you on-sight, gesturing toward the sign.
So, really, it's more like Ski-Free when you try to continue playing after the run is completed.
 
@CodyGray definitely - that's why I am totally fine with the update :) I only mention the warning because I firmly consider "the rules should be hidden because if they will be shown, people will abuse them" to be a wrong stance (in general). I'd love to have all rules shouted out to users in their face and then, should people start abusing them, to deploy technical solutions to prevent them from doing so. A man can dream!
 
Well... that's what we're doing now, though. We're showing the rules.
What we aren't showing are the implementation details about how the rules will be enforced.
 
2:49 PM
@CodyGray yup, and that's why I like the change too
@CodyGray dunno - it's public info but it is obscured behind the MSE FAQ. Showing what exact consequences are would be better, IMO (and deter some from trying in the first place - think of it as a "high voltage - deadly" sign). But that's not a hill I am willing to die on :)
in other news: SE broke the API
 
The exact consequences are what I said: if a moderator catches you doing this, you'll be vaporized.
The fact that there may or may not be some heuristics that allow automated detection is not something anyone should rely on, and we don't want people thinking that because they skirted that automated detection, they're home-free.
@OlegValteriswithUkraine That's... somehow better than the fact that they recently exposed all vote history to mods...
 
@CodyGray could do both :) Warn that it is inherited and that they will be poofed out of existence. Anyways, this part is a "meh" situation either way
@CodyGray heh, seen that one - frankly, I am not sure why shouldn't you as mods be able to see them. That aside, how on earth has it made to production?
 
Votes are supposed to be anonymous, even to mods...
They even broke delete my account.
It continues to amaze.
 
3:23 PM
@CodyGray yeah, I just never got why exactly - mods are high-trust and are bound by the agreement, after all. A reasonably limited tool would be nice, methinks
 
Mods are still human... I shouldn't be able to see that you downvoted my post.
 
@CodyGray great end of the week: API's broken, PII protection's broken, profile deletion's broken, icons're misaligned
 
I thought they fixed the icon misalignment?
You can add "a code block causing all other content to overflow its container" to the list, though. We were just discussing that in the mod room.
 
@CodyGray it's a long-standing one, I think - I even provided 4 solutions that SE could implement to fix it
@CodyGray just containing the occurences :) They fixed the voting part too, right?
 
Yeah, they did
But now we have a new thing
(I love how no one ever listens to me.)
 
3:28 PM
@CodyGray maybe I am too optimistic about humanity - I don't find it particularly problematic if a mod sees that I voted on their post.
@CodyGray no, really?
how many bugs can be deployed in one week?
@CodyGray hmm?
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Read the comment after mine.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine n*2+1, where n is the number of bugs that were "fixed"?
 
that's common, methinks. I keep getting notifications on bug reports a couple years old saying "I repro'd too!"
 
#metoo
 
3:34 PM
@CodyGray are you sure it's just quadratic as opposed to higher-level of polynomial?
ouch
it's just multiplication
correction:
are you sure it's not polynomial?
 
It's part of a larger frustration for me recently. Virtually every time I say something (including in person, such as in meetings), someone will reply to me saying almost exactly the same thing I just said.
 
have you checked if you live in an echo chamber?
nice... the tooltip is displayed via JS instead of just being shown on hover
and...
SE, repeat after me: z-index on things that are supposed to be displayed over other elements should not be equal to 1002
 
 
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8:21 PM
Achievement unlocked: earned rep on four SE sites (including one Teams site) without actually posting anything today on any of them. Admittedly, one was a hot network question that was still up from a few days ago.
 
 
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10:56 PM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine No. How do I check that?
@OlegValteriswithUkraine But why? Do you really need to have more than 1001 discrete layers underneath it?!
 

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