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1:45 AM
> Nice solution with [one-liner quoted here]
> I cannot give points or comments on it yet, but It deserves many good points or comments
 
2:28 AM
Grrrr. I really wish I could mod flag the same post twice =(
 
3:05 AM
@HenryEcker I think you probably hold the record for "most links in a mod flag" at 14.
 
@RyanM And there were more, I ran out of characters... I was trying to make a point given that the nature of the report was something I though a mod might decline if it were only a few posts.
 
 
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4:48 AM
If I copy and paste a plagiarism flag into a comment without attribution, am I also guilty of plagiarism?
 
If it's any of mine you have full permission to do so
 
If I copy and paste Yersinia pestis into a comment, am I guilty of plaguerism?
 
@RyanM well, if quoted, one can safely rely on the "do not disclose the author unless consented to" rule (no joke even)
 
I assume there's no licensing on any text I put into a mod flag
 
@HenryEcker I appreciate that :-) always good to have more clarity
 
4:56 AM
Fun fact if you try to mod flag something with the word migrat.* in it the system gives a little message about mod flagging for migration. Which you can click flag again to submit it anyway. But you have to wait 5 seconds because the rejected flag counts as a flag attempt...
 
That rate limit is the worst.
especially when NLN-flagging a bunch of comments on one post.
 
I hate that it's a server-side global limit. I wish I could just step around it somehow. But alas...
Mods are immune from that no?
 
Seriously, as a moderator: if someone wants to send a bunch of stupid flags all at once vs. over the course of a couple minutes, I literally do not care.
Just cap them to the daily flag limit and be done.
@HenryEcker Yes, thank goodness. We can also open the close dialog as quickly as we want.
@RyanM you are welcome to quote me on this if you want to argue that it's a silly rate limit.
 
Honestly the limits wouldn't bother me as much if there weren't so many cases where it opens then for some reason it just closes itself.
Or like I have to close it to take a second look at the post or something real quick.
It's also annoying that I can't pull current remaining close votes or flag amounts without simulating "opening" that window (the close dialogue/flag dialogue respectively) so a number of background tasks periodically globally rate limit me to update their values
 
@HenryEcker I hate that. I guess it makes some sense in cases where you open the dialog to flag/close and and edit might invalidate your intended action. But most of the time, it doesn't. In the case of spam, it just actively gets in the way of you posting the spam flag.
@HenryEcker Or you accidentally click outside. Or you intentionally click outside because you want to copy something from the page, yet that closes the dialog.
 
5:06 AM
@HenryEcker ugh, yes - I recently started to revive Sam's RQH script - the inability to get vote/flag stats from anywhere but the dialog is a huge pain in the ass. Even worse is that after loading, the user can't open it themselves until the throttle expires
Could be trivially addressed with expanding on the API endpoint, but clearly adding Collectives endpoints was a priority
 
Honestly, I'd prefer a /users/uid/uname?tab=resources added to the profile page which outlined numbers. That just had a table of resource amounts. Available Votes today:
15/30 up down votes used today
0/10 question up/down votes used today
10/40 CVs used today
4/10 delete votes used today
12/100 flags used today
Because I think it's absolutely ridiculous that there's nowhere to see some of those limits. A central place to note them would be great. Or even a voting stats page that showed Today; 2d; 7d; 30d like mod tools so you could see actual details of your activity
@VLAZ 100% this. I run into this all the time when I'm trying to draw attention to something in a mod flag and accidently clear all of the flag text....
 
@HenryEcker yeah, or this. Anything that shows the current quota would be fine and extremely easy to implement. But oh well. I understand why SSR can discourage from adding site endpoints that return JSON, so that's why I mentioned the API. Any approach would also reduce load on SE's servers - right now we have to make at a minimum of 2 requests per need to peoperly handle close votes, for example, and up to unlimited times if the chosen post gets deleted, closed, or close voted by the user
 
5:26 AM
Personally, I think this information is useful for everyone not just people who use user scripts or programmatically perform actions on SO. I would prefer to see it built into the user profile. It would give me more control. I wouldn't start doing FQQ if I knew I only had 7 votes left. But there's literally no way for me to know. Especially since I flag (and DV) a lot of NAA posts which give votes back when they get deleted...
Trying to figure out my available votes is a combination of math and relying on the :shudders: reputation page to show me accurate information about refunds on votes...
 
5:58 AM
@HenryEcker yeah, what I mean is that this doesn't preclude SE from dogfooding their own API (they already do so on some pages). Best of both worlds so to speak :) But I'd be happy with just profile stats too - at least those can be scraped in one swoop.
 
@HenryEcker FYI, feedback in a helpful flag message for you.
(generally, feel free to ask follow-up questions on things from flag response messages; the pointer to there rather than simply responding here is to avoid revealing the details of what, exactly, you flagged)
 
6:21 AM
@RyanM Ahhh. Oops? Honestly I have no idea how that URL was messed up... I'll look into it
Thank you for drawing my attention. Honestly I wish I could sort flags by when they were handled and not just when I flagged it.... Things get super buried in that UI
Or at least filter by flag type (NAA/VLQ/mod flag) etc.
 
Also I'm curious: are you running all the posts from a user through it, or only some?
There are definitely some from that user that weren't flagged. I ended up deleting virtually everything after manually confirming another dozen or so myself.
 
All posts for a given user. It's over zealous in finding matches. I'm trying to get a balance between ignoring 1.7 billion matches for the word "the" and missing an obviously copied document... For that reason there's a fair amount of manual evaluation that I need to do for each flag which takes time.
Also just writing up a flag and figuring out to convey it within the character limit (especially with how gigantic some of the URLs are) is also something that's more difficult.
TLDR; There are many many posts that were caught that I didn't have time to manually evaluate and transfer into a mod flag.
 
Yeah, makes sense. Your effort is greatly appreciated.
 
NP. It's actually quite an interesting challenge on my end and idk if fun is the right word... maybe satisfying is more apt.
 
I can definitely relate to that... :-)
 
7:05 AM
OP: "Why do you guys downvote but not leave any feedback??? if im doing something wrong that is obvious let me know and then downvote me at least... stack overflow is literally full of snobs. Im a beginner simply looking for help."
Someone: *leaves a series of questions about the post that they find unclear*
OP: *flags feedback as Unfriendly or Unkind*
I really wish I could leave incredulous comment flag decline messages.
Comment on spam of the day:
Sounds painful. Please don't open your developers unless you're a qualified surgeon operating in a sterile environment. — DiplomacyNotWar 1 min ago
 
7:19 AM
@RyanM please, please, I want to know the question that prompted that beauty :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine The relevant text was the title: "Dot net Developer Openings PUNE"
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine It was a job advertisement. The title is "Dot net Developer Openings PUNE"
Damn ninjas
 
@RyanM hahahaha
Amazing
"Opening your developers is a suboptimal recruitment strategy"
 
Recruiter: "Thanks for expressing your interest in us. When you are ready, we can start. Just as heads-up we expect you to open up to us."
Developer: "Thanks. However, it sounds like the interview might be a bit more personal than what I anticipated."
Recruiter: *retrieving scalpels* "Interview?"
 
xD "this is a routine examination of the insides of all our employees, sir"
 
7:30 AM
"OK, liver seems good, heart is OK. I also see you eat well from the contents of your stomach. I must say, I'm impressed. I think we can sign the contract as soon as we put all of this back inside you."
 
Today in "diary of an open source project maintainer" we discuss the curious episode of someone writing a custom class loader which does not override a method like the API says he should, and submits a PR wanting the library to handle his laziness. But in fact his change requires the same method override so it's obviously untested...
In other news, I love digging into the JDK source code. :)
 
7:47 AM
So, you received a "More work request"?
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine that script is currently broken entirely for /review for moderators. I haven't tracked down the issue yet, though.
 
8:16 AM
 
ah, at least they bolded it!
very helpful. totally justifies the lack of a code block.
 
There was an edit by non-OP which improved it. It doesn't look as awful:
Still bad, though.
Oh, and the last line is over 750 characters
 
8:45 AM
Have we reached semantic satiation yet?
 
9:17 AM
@VLAZ he hurried 🤭
Today is the 1st of Juny. Happy summer 🎉
 
\o/
Very soon the real heat would start: 🔥 \o/ 🔥
 
@VLAZ do you live in the country with hot climate?
 
Well, it often gets to 40 C here in the summer. But I personally dislike anything over 25 C
Regular summer temperature is 35-ish C which is way too hot for me.
 
40C, like on the continent Africa :-)
It is tough to code, when so hot 🤭
 
9:33 AM
Yeah. Since I'm working at home, I'd sometimes just go get a quick shower to cool off.
 
Take the break during the hottest period
You can surf?
 
No, I can't. I barely swim.
 
10:08 AM
@VLAZ what is your favourite joy in the summer?
Hiking, biking...?
 
Eating ice cream.
Although, I do like going to the mountains in the summer. I much prefer it to going to the beach.
 
There is snowy? In the mountains?
 
10:24 AM
No snow but it's at least colder. And there is less people - beaches are overcrowded. But mostly, I prefer taking a hike around instead of hanging out at the beach or in the water all day.
 
11:07 AM
Yes, hiking in the mountains is cool. Also you can collect medicinal herbs for tasty teas 😋
Maybe springs are there too?
 
 
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12:37 PM
Short story in three pictures...
3
 
 
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1:48 PM
@RyanM I forget to mention because I got distracted trying to figure out the issue. It doesn't look like mod flag replies support the same mini-markdown that flags do? I can parse "_quite_" in my head but I wasn't sure if you expected that to be rendered or not?
 
 
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5:57 PM
From MSE but I feel it fits the general types I post here:
 
 
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7:59 PM
Good night 👋
 
8:10 PM
o/
 
@VLAZ only you are here :-)
What do you plan to do before sleeping?
If you aren't live in USA or Australia 🤭
😔
 
 
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11:05 PM
I love being paid for not working. :)
 

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