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5:50 AM
@AdrianMole :-( What the heck?
 
6:03 AM
@CodyGray The target for this seems more specific, and is not really about accessibility in general. If anything, the targets should be the other way around I think. (I'd have pinged you on the post, but I can't).
@CodyGray Yeah, of course. Guess I'll just have to pester you then ;)
 
What do you mean you can't?
 
You have to be a commenter, or have made an edit, or closed the question single handedly, right? To ping you I mean; I could just leave a comment of course.
 
Oh, I don't know. I don't keep up with the nuances of the rules on that.
I think the whole thing is a misfeature.
 
Well, we can try it out.
 
I arguably did single-handedly close; the other votes were for other silly reasons, like "unclear".
Mmm. Weekends are nice: much fewer stuff to go through.
 
6:14 AM
Did you get the ping?
 
Do I ever get pings?
Yes, I did.
 
Oh, on the Meta post? I could have sworn that doesn't work.
 
It worked.
Perhaps something to do with a gold-badge closure?
I am a subject-matter expert when it comes to discussions. You will respect my authority!
 
I'll double check to make sure it doesn't work with regular users, and if so, I'll make a Meta maybe. Might as well on a weekend, it being light and everything ;)
 
Might want to double-check to see if anyone cares?
 
6:18 AM
Hmm, no, definitely not.
 
I guess anything is better than, "has anyone noticed this change?"
A: "Now we have."
Facepalm.
 
That one was poorly phrased, yeah :( I thought about editing it, but I think that's what the OP actually wanted to know.
 
6:37 AM
Actually, I take that back; I'm not sure how I would have edited "has anyone noticed" into something useful.
 
7:37 AM
General reference, I suppose? "How are different denominations of reputation displayed?"
 
Oh, like a FAQ question? Yeah, that could have worked. Isn't there already a FAQ about that?
 
I bet so!
 
So edit it into a duplicate? :p I don't think that would be useful.
 
There are some, but they kind of suck.
There's probably something better on MSE.
But I don't know. This is kind of one of those self-explanatory questions.
 
BTW, I just posted on MSO about the @reply that you said worked, but haven't linked to this chat. So if I got any of the claims about what you did/saw wrong, could you comment on the post?
 
7:46 AM
"What does the site look like with my monitor off?" is not a useful FAQ.
 
Well, this would be marginally better than that at least.
 
Would it?
 
Hmm, perhaps I'm being generous.
 
The "users" page pretty much tells you.
"How are questions displayed?"
@cigien They're all correct.
 
@CodyGray Cool, thanks for checking.
 
7:50 AM
I couldn't help it. It just happened when I read the post.
 
@CodyGray Wait, what do you mean by "users" page, how does that tell you about the denomination for the few high rep users?
 
Lookie at the rep scores!
I spy tres millonarios
 
Oh, I see. That's true. Not much more to it after looking at that page.
 
@cigien Only thing you forgot is: "6. Glasses sees everything."
 
I remember thinking that at one point, and testing it out with Makyen. They didn't get pinged, and they expressed their happiness that that was not a feature :)
 
8:04 AM
I would love for this not to be a feature.
Anything that gets me fewer pings is a win.
 
Oh, wait you said "glasses" :p
I read "mods" for some reason.
@CodyGray It's not. I have no idea why you got pinged on that post.
 
@CodyGray From the timeline, it appears he was writing his essay composing his answer while you were editing the dupe list.
 
8:20 AM
So, now anyone can ping Cody from anywhere? How.. fantastic :D
 
I think Cody might resign if that were true ;)
 
8:33 AM
I'd probably just stop reading all notifications.
Which is not all that far from what I do now.
If I keep on top of them every day, then I can read them all. If I take a break of more than 2 days, it's no longer feasible to read them all, so I just don't.
It doesn't help that clicking on the inbox once, anywhere, clears all of the "recent" notifications, so if you don't read them all at once, you lose the ability to even know which ones you need to read.
It's like the worst email client ever.
@AdrianMole Hmm, OK. But that's not a reason to reopen. He could still post the answer without reopening the question.
 
@CodyGray That whole 'posting after it's closed' thing has never worked for me (depends on browser caching, I think). I can understand the frustration when a question is closed while one is writing a long, detailed answer. But I don't really want to stir it up ... I only came across the situation because I was presented with the question in First Posts review (even after I had already voted-to-close, which was odd).
 
It doesn't depend on browser caching.
Worst case, you have to edit the HTML to re-enable the button.
 
But it's a 'trick' many may not know about.
 
I guess it may not be obvious to the C folks.
 
I only learned about it quite recently. I'm not a fan of that option being available.
 
8:43 AM
Yeah. Simpletons, one and all. :)
 
8:54 AM
Why is the option bad?
 
Didn't it used to give rene a chance to annoy Shog?
 
Kind of defeats the purpose of closing questions before they can be answered. It renders proposals like this irrelevant. That proposal has other issues, but still.
 
@AdrianMole Not that I'm aware of?
 
Just something I seem to recall the Blurry Flower once saying (talking about Meta posts, though).
... but maybe flowers exaggerate?
Jasmonic Acid overdose, perhaps?
 
9:12 AM
He recently pointed to statistics on SEDE showing incidence of its use on Meta, and noted that he'd used it, but that it was mostly (ab)used by moderators and employees.
 
@CodyGray Yes, that is a pain. I agree. But the alternative is that one needs to mark every one individually. Do you want that? :D
 
@AdrianMole Sounds more like auxin overstimulation to me.
@Scratte Clicking on it/visiting it would automatically mark it as "read". That seems much more sensible to me.
If you wanted to dismiss it, you just open it without reading it. Not that big of a deal. My email client works that way, too.
 
@CodyGray I meant your inbox would show red until you visited every item in it, no? Do you want that?
 
Why not?
If I wanted to dismiss an item, I'd just visit and do so.
 
I'll click on the inbox and read them. I'll visit the ones I want to, and mumble "meh" on the intolerable ones :) (Which may or may not include snarky chat-replies ;-)
 
9:19 AM
Imagine that you have 223 of them.
What do you do? The only thing I have figured out to do to avoid missing one is to open all 223 in separate tabs...
 
Once I've read them, I'll want the inbox to not be red anymore.. I would certainly not want to have to visit 233 separate items to make my inbox stop being red.
 
Once it's read it's not red. :)
 
The way I do it is that I click on the inbox. Then I right-click the individual items and open up in a new tab. I'll do that for all the ones I want to address or read "properly"?..
 
OK, so just add a "dismiss all" link/button.
 
That would be nice. Along with an individual one on each as an option perhaps.
So one could dismiss just one without having to open it up.
 
9:23 AM
Here's the real problem: it's too easy to dismiss them all with one accidental click.
For instance, when I'm using the site from mobile, it's very easy to accidentally click the inbox link.
Or even when I'm using the desktop site, but going to dismiss the green rep notifications that I don't care about.
It's also happened that, since I have keyboard shortcuts turned on, I've accidentally typed an "i" without having a textbox focused, which opens the inbox and dismisses everything.
 
@CodyGray I fixed that with uBlock stackoverflow.com##.achievements-button-item.-item
 
Remember that I regularly access from a variety of different browsers.
I have three computers on the tables in front of me, plus a laptop. And a mobile device.
Some of those computers run multiple operating systems.
 
I see. I have a file where I've put all my blocked stuff in. I has revisions too :) So if anything is off, I just reset it with the file.
 
Sure, and that's great. I also have userscripts that I try to keep organized, too.
They aren't on all machines, but they're in most places where I access regularly. (Except mobile, which doesn't support them.)
None of that keeps me from making misclicks.
 
The userscripts are in my opinion more of a hazzle, as they are all individual files. Whereas the uBlock is just one. If I really want something to go away, I'll uBlock it for that reason alone.
 
9:29 AM
I don't even have uBlock installed.
 
All the advertisements and buttons are gone with uBlock. The file is quite large now.
It includes the tag list of chat, which in my opinion takes too much good real estate. The "rejoin favorite room"-button was also just annoying. And the options on every line to flag a message as offensive. It's just too close to the starring button for comfort.
 
The "tag list"?
The one immediately below the room description?
How is that "good real estate"? There's almost nothing useful over there.
Heh, I have a userscript that adds a bunch of other buttons below each message, next to the star/flag. Mostly for moving messages to another room.
But that's never caused me to accidentally click the star. Instead, I accidentally click the star about twice per day when going for the reply button.
 
When you click upon a star... 🎵🎵
 
This tag list is just annoying to me. I'd rather have this . Especially in a room with lots of users. I used to only be able to see the first 3 starred messages in SOCVR..
 
Uh, what?
Wow, you need to get a bigger screen.
Is that screenshot uncropped? ;-)
 
9:38 AM
I'm on a small laptop :)
@CodyGray lol! Silly you.. :)
It did help when I installed the user script to scroll the starboard, but either way, I'm more interested in starred messages than some tag-list.
 
I guess. Assuming it's a room you regularly visit.
I can see how the tag list would be helpful when looking at new rooms. "What is this room about?"
 
I suppose I could but the line with "other rooms you're in". That's an entire line I don't need.
@CodyGray Naah.. There's usually a FAQ anyway.
And I didn't remove the description.
 
Only in very "special" rooms is there a FAQ.
 
The tag-list doesn't show when browsing rooms. Which is where I'd expect it was most important. You only get to see if it you enter the room, so look at the info-page.
 
Hmm, good point. That is a curious design.
 
 
11 hours later…
8:57 PM
Is there any meta post about when the VLQ flag option disappears from the flagging dialog? I believe there's one but I can't find it :(
 
Perhaps you're thinking of this one? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/278832
 

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