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3:53 AM
Ugh, I wish one could see what the text of a comment that resulted in a declined flag was...that would make it a lot easier to learn where the lines are.
Otherwise it's just going to train people never to flag U/U if there's any doubt whatsoever.
Which is maybe valid, but it'd be nice to at least be able to consider the appropriateness of the flag after the decline.
 
4:07 AM
It's far worse than you imagined: different moderators have different standards for what constitutes "unfriendly/unkind".
 
I forget what I flagged in this particular instance, but I seem to recall it being closer to the left column
 
I think that was it. Gotta say, I'm shocked to see that "Not Cody Gray" is the one who declined those. I would have guessed it was me who declined an "unfriendly/unkind" flag on something borderline.
I don't know why your flag would have been declined on that comment. Likely, what happened is that the mod dismissed the auto-flag (by Community), but we cannot dismiss comment flags for two different reasons, so yours got caught up in the dismissal.
Not that I really understand why you'd dismiss the auto-flag on that comment. It counts as rude, in my opinion.
Both commenters were in the wrong there, of course. The question was not off-topic for SO, so there was no reason to be recommending CR. That's why I deleted everything when I handled the later flag.
 
Yeah, it was slightly more borderline than I remembered, but "useless comment" was what put it over the line for me.
 
Correct. Without "useless comment", I would not validate any flag on it but NLN.
 
It's unclear what the question is, in my opinion, but that's a good reason not to send it to CR.
 
4:19 AM
Haha, yes.
 
I've been told off by a CR site mod for just mentioning CR as a potential site for a question (it was in a MSO comment, and I had mentioned to the OP to read the help pages first). I don't bring it up on a post now unless I'm sure it's on-topic there.
 
Yes. The CR mods (or community?) run a bot that scrapes for new comments on SO mentioning their site. It dumps those comments into a chat room, where humans review them and comment if they're suggesting inappropriate migration.
It's a huge problem, because many people aren't familiar with the actual rules/requirements of CR, including that the person must have own and have written the code they're asking about, the code must work, etc.
 
Yeah, I realized that later when reading about it. At the time, I was certainly taken aback.
 
Some of their responders don't have the nicest tone.
But it comes out of fatigue, not out of malice.
Imagine if you were someone else's garbage dump :-)
 
Yeah, I get where they're coming from.
 
4:34 AM
I see a lot of really harmful such comments when handling flags.
It's quite unfortunate, as with most migration recommendations, because if the person does take the advice, they'll end up with their question being closed and them being told to "go away" on yet another site.
Half of the time, the question isn't even unsuitable for SO! That's when it grinds my gears the most.
 
I've also learned the hard way that people only read the half of the comment that says to go post elsewhere, not the part telling them about issues.
 
Yeah, that makes it much worse. For everyone.
 
I've closed someone's question on two different sites before.
A problem they could have avoided if they'd listened to my advice. But they didn't.
 
@RyanM The CR folks, to their credit, won't say anything if your comment includes the caveats.
But yeah, it doesn't really help the OP much...
 
If I win the election, I'm gonna have to grab Andrew T or another Android.SE mod to see how much they want migrated there.
I've seen some perfectly good questions here that are just ...not about programming.
There's also some garbage, obviously.
 
4:43 AM
Just post a question on their Meta?
"Hi, I'm a friendly SO mod who knows what Android is. When I see questions that aren't crap but aren't programming, I can migrate them. Do y'all want that?"
Oops, now you can't ask it without plagiarizing me! :-p
 
...yeah, that's a good point, I could do that.
 
That way you aren't putting the whole burden on the mods.
The mods can still weigh in, of course.
And there'd be a place where the community could leave angry rants comments.
You'll be the envy of the entire mod team, getting called out not only on your own Meta, but also on another site's Meta!
 
hahaha
 
5:08 AM
@CodyGray Re this, what's the target audience, when you say "had an account for a while"? Any particular rep level?
 
Hmm.... Nah, nothing specific.
I just mean more of, "been there, done that" with respect to posting answers.
Ready to "move to the next level", regardless of specific rep.
Some users are precocious (cough Jeanne); others take longer to get bored of the rep rat race.
 
 
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9:06 AM
Speaking of, please don't leave comments saying things like, "SO is not a free code writing service", because... it is, at least to some extent, so these comments are misleading, if not outright wrong. And, even if it weren't, such comments come across as rude and unhelpful. The amount of effort or "attempt" that the asker put in is completely irrelevant, except insofar as it helps to narrow down the focus of the question. But if the question is intrinsically simple and straightforward enough, like, "how do I add a shadow effect to text in this <div>", that's fine (though prob a dupe). — Cody Gray ♦ Oct 12 at 3:11
Found when looking for something else, but this is an excellent comment ^
 
I leave variants of that comment all over the place :-\
 
It is unfortunate that that meta question will Roomba, since it would be a great reference to send people to.
I'd love to have a canonical Meta question to send people to, with something like that as an answer.
I've considered writing such a question, but never got around to it.
 
Yeah, but I really like Shog9's answer, that's why I closed it as a dupe of that.
It wasn't just a "go away" dupe closure. It was well thought out.
 
I've linked that answer a dozen+ times, but I really want one about "free coding service" specifically
 
 
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