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2:23 PM
Another ML one, this time fooling facial recognition with realistic makeup arxiv.org/abs/2109.06467 youtube.com/watch?v=4PPgujzk7gw
 
 
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7:29 PM
Am I wrong to think this is BS?
@CrisLuengo The question were are talking about here is one such instance, where it explicitly treats data and logic as equivalent. But that isn't an isolated example. The language is built around scripts and simple one-off functions. It was only very recently that it provided any support at all for any more structured code than that, and that support is still half-baked. It didn't even provide support for distributing code to others until recently. And it is still inordinately difficult to write general-purpose code without a ton of checks to make sure it is structured just right. — TheBlackCat 20 mins ago
 
7:53 PM
@CrisLuengo I don't even really understand the argument, so I can't comment. Not sure what "treating data and logic as equivalent" amounts to
but yeah, the argument smells wrong at least
 
8:06 PM
Same here. I don't get what they're talking about. Their answer also talks about "keeping data and program logic separate". I don't see how that is related to the question
 
@LuisMendo I think the argument is that according to them, MATLAB handles code and data the same way, so it's natural that setting the path sets data discovery as well.
so their point is since Python doesn't do this, being able to set non-source path is not possible
at least that's my best take
 
8:57 PM
Comments like “The language is built around scripts and simple one-off functions” are just silly. You can work with MATLAB in that way, but you can do that in Python as well, and in any interpreted language. Doesn’t mean that it’s the language’s fault.
There are plenty of bad things in MATLAB, but lack of support for structured code is not one of them, and mixing data and code is not one of them either.
 
9:25 PM
@AndrasDeak Ah, so they want to set data path and code path differently?
The question is a bit confusing
 
@CrisLuengo if anything I'd have said that one-off functions were not supported until very recently...
having to put every function in a new file of its own was always a hassle
 
10:00 PM
@AndrasDeak true! :)
 

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