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8:52 AM
@AndrasDeak how was your day off yesterday? Was quite the newspaper article about it in the Netherlands
 
Sam
9:38 AM
Morning all.... what are your views on a part-time phd?
 
@Sam you mean 3 days a week PhD and 2 days a week something else?
 
Sam
I'm not entirely sure what the split would be.. I just see a few phd offering part-time study over ~8 years.
 
I couldn't do it. I notice that I get ideas at the weirdest of times, and I'd have difficulties spending part of my week/days on one project and the rest on something totally different
 
Sam
Yeah, I understand that
hm
 
My dad wanted to work 30% FTE during the last years before retiring, but stopped altogether after a few months of that. The problem was that he's in patents, where everything should be written and approved yesterday (or at least before the competitors). So whilst my dad wanted to work two days a week, he found himself answering emails and checking stuff every day. Perhaps to a total of ~40% work, but he didn't have the days off, which were the reason to limit working hours in the first place.
I guess it's down to personal preference, and how well you can separate jobs or job and private life.
 
9:48 AM
@Sam you need a very strong mental fortitude to go trhouhg that
 
Sam
Yeah. I need to speak with my company now, see if its something they can sponsor.
 
PhD is hard, and it drains your mental energy.
Also, in your field, you are kinda fucked in 8 years
 
Sam
@AnderBiguri That is very very true
fuck, 4 years and I'm fucked :p
 
in ML, something from 2 years ago is old. How are you going to make significant research in 8 years.
Even working full time is hard to catch with your field
There are PhD programs (sometimes under the EngD umbrella) that allow a very industry-oriented PhD
I know of cases of companies paying for this because ultimately you are doing research for the company, with support of a university, for the companys benefit. Except you will need to publish
An example of such thing is my peers (and me!)
I am funded by GE to research some topics that they may want to include in the next iteration of their scanners
 
Sam
Yeah. I'm quite fortunate that I work for a research oriented company.. I should speak with them first
 
9:51 AM
aside from my postdoc, they are funding 2 PhD students fully.
 
10:06 AM
@AnderBiguri any scanning in the Alps coming up ... ? ;)
 
Sam
@AnderBiguri Nice. I should speak to my company.
I've decided now that it is something i want to do though :)
 
@Adriaan I doubt so šŸ˜¬ I will definetly let you know if they happen
 
Computer science PhDs at ETH pay very well, especially compared to other PhDs. Basically they get double what a regular PhD student gets, in order "to compete with industry". Although the companies pay >100k/year starting salary, PhD in CS does 80k/year
 
In UK its not like that. Unless someone magincally agrees to pay you more, you get 14500£/y (untaxed) or maybe 18000£ in London.
 
Sam
@AnderBiguri That's the part that is scaring me :P
@Adriaan ETH?
 
10:11 AM
zurich uni
Echole techinke something
 
Sam
Ah. Maybe I need to go there ;)
 
@AnderBiguri Here there are five "tiers" in which you can be paid. Most candidates get tier 1, because it's cheapest. But professors can pay in higher toers if they so desire.
@AnderBiguri NONONONONONO
 
In many countrie sPHD pays well. Netherlands, Germany etc
 
@Sam yes!
 
Sam
Zurich here I come
 
10:12 AM
There's the Universität Zürich with a lousy 12 nobel laureates, and then there's the next building (literally), which is the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule Zürich, which has 23 nobel laureates. Don't confuse them :P
 
In UK if a company or a grant decides to pay well, they can. The money I put is the minimuum.
@Adriaan mah, Uni zurich\footnote{German countreis like to have 17 types of hihger education institutions which are essentially unis, but they get agressive when you dont use their weird classification nomeclature}
Also French, lets not forget about the French.
 
@AnderBiguri nono, as in: they both exist and are different institutes. Both world renowned unis, but not the same
ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich; German: Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule Zürich; French: École polytechnique fédérale de Zurich; Italian: Politecnico federale di Zurigo) is a public research university in the city of Zürich, Switzerland. Founded by the Swiss Federal Government in 1854 with the stated mission to educate engineers and scientists, the school focuses exclusively on science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Like its sister institution EPFL, it is part of the Swiss Federal Institutes of Technology Domain (ETH Domain), part of the Swiss Federal...
The University of Zurich (UZH, German: Universität Zürich), located in the city of Zürich, is the largest university in Switzerland, with over 25,000 students. It was founded in 1833 from the existing colleges of theology, law, medicine and a new faculty of philosophy. Currently, the university has seven faculties: Philosophy, Human Medicine, Economic Sciences, Law, Mathematics and Natural Sciences, Engineering, Computer Sciences and Robotics, Theology and Veterinary Medicine. The university offers the widest range of subjects and courses of any Swiss higher education institution. As of October...
 
Yeah, what I mean is that it is essentially a university in Zurich. Not The University of Zurich, but a university in Zurich
 
@AnderBiguri ah, yes. But that's confusing, since there are only 2 unis in Züri and one is named "Uni Züri" :P
 
Sam
Found a great Phd right on my doorstep :P Machine learning for multidimensional ultrafast x-ray interferometry looks like your domain @AnderBiguri
 
10:17 AM
But yes, those countries are weird. In the Basque country there are like 15 campuses for the university. Its all the same institution, as its funded by the goverment. In Zurich there are 2, in Vienna there are 7, etc unis, all funded by the same people to do the same thing (in different fields) but oh! if you happen to mention they are the same thing chaos!
@Sam indeed!
By Illiom ?
Swansea uni?
 
Sam
Swansea
 
yeah, the dude who psoted it its called Illiom right?
or the supervisor. Something for the nuclear fusion future in the UK
 
Sam
Dr Kevin 0'Keeffe
 
ah, no. I think they work together tho, let me check
 
@AnderBiguri Hum, no, still not. They are different institutions, paid for by different people. ETH is federally (national) funded, whereas the Uni Zürich is funded by the kanton (~province). Barely anything relates the two except that their main buildings are literally next door. Otherwise they are completely independent, separate institutes with different boards and funding schemes
It's like Imperial and UCL I guess. Same city, different unis
 
10:20 AM
@Adriaan except those are private institutions, that was the difference I was making
@Sam not usre if they work together then. I know this dude from Swansea, very nice guy: swansea.ac.uk/staff/engineering/llion.evans
 
Sam
Ah cool! The deadline is today so I'm going to apply :D
There are a few projects that take my fancy.
 
I thought he was the main dude in X-rays there, but I might be wrong. But its likely you'd work with this dude too if you were working on X-rays
 
Sam
Is it wise to select 1 topic or is it OK to apply with interest in multiple do you think?
 
What do you mean?
 
Sam
So the current intake of candidates have these topics to choose: cdt-aimlac.org/cdt-research.html
There's quite a few which take my fancy
 
10:28 AM
I'd say choose as many as you want. Its likely a filter from their side, so they only direct you to shared interest people
But do check what those people research on
 
Sam
Ah cool. Thanks. I'll let you know which ones I apply to :D
I recognise a few of them from my undergrad
 
those topics are super broad, you will have more success if you have indeed checked what they do, so instead of saying "I am interested in your research in Particle Physics" you can say "I am interested in the work you do in bosonic matter on the boundary of metamaterials"
oh! that is a CDT
 
Sam
@AnderBiguri That bad?
 
CDTs are even better.
 
Sam
How so?
 
10:31 AM
You do 1 year of "masters" then 3 years of PhD. On that masters they will teach you all you need to do the PhD in that topic, while starting to do literature research and explore the topics of the researchers. The "master thesis" tends to be the literature review of a topic of your choice that will become your PhD
 
Sam
ahhh cool
 
its better because 1) you have time to fiddle around different topis in the first year to find what you like 2)they will make sure you have teaching for the hard stuff 3) its "cohort" based, like degrees. You are not alone, you start with other 10 people 4) as a PhD you still need to do the literature review, in here you just have a full year extra for it
its worse because 1) its 1 year more than "standard"
often they pay a bit more too
 
Sam
ahh looks like i do need to specify which topic i like on the application
 
You only have 3 of those ins Swansea tho
But you are there because you like this one: swansea.ac.uk/physics/postgraduate-physics/… right?
Si mention that explicitly
say that you are applying to that position
and then that you may be open to others
 
Sam
10:48 AM
I'm not 100% sure of which my first choice would be yet. I need to look into them a little more.
I quite like Robust Parameter Optimisation for Image Segmentation
 
No wait. But if the CDT is based on predefined projects, apply to the projects, not th etopics
 
@Adriaan you mean national suicidal circle-jerk day? Not an actual day off. For the time being the communal activity of going to the nearest hilltop and flaying yourself bloody is optional.
 
Sam
Yup - thats what I'm doing :)
 
@Sam So then you need to be interested in T1 and/or T3 because its what the project fits in
Says up there on the description
 
Sam
Yeah. I think I'm more for T3 :)
thanks
 
11:02 AM
@AndrasDeak Sounds ... awkward. In that article they interviewed someone who build a miniature of the Greater Hungarian Empire, and advertised that with the old flag, which apparently is associated with fascism. When asked whether the thing would become a pilgrimage-place for right-wing extremist he said "Everyone is welcome, regardless of political views or nationality. Even gays are welcome!". Somehow I doubted that, especially the latter.
 
they are welcome to get a beating... :P
 
Sam
11:42 AM
@AnderBiguri £15,009 is the minimal stipend
 
yup, has incrased a tiny bit in the last 6 years, not much. 1 250.75£/month, not taxed.
Depends where you are in the UK can be good. Not sure how is the living costs of Swansea. In Bath it would be hard to find a room for less than 650£, which is more than half
hopefully its much cheaper in Swansea or Wales in general, if that is where you are aiming.
but its enough to live OK, not saving, but at least not a "poor" student
 
Sam
I have a GF in Swansea too so rent / 2 will be OK. cost of living is relatively cheap.
 
12:01 PM
the good thing of doing a PhD with a full time-working GF is that she takes you out for dinner, because she earns more
that is what I did, get treated well
:D
 
haha :D
Ander living the life
and GF making it rain
 
hahahaha
my super rich gf working in education and charities, the BIG MONYZ
 
Hehe, that's relativity for you.
"I see your education and charities and raise you a PhD grant"
 
hahaha. Now we moved to London, economically speaking not a wise decision šŸ˜ƒ back in time
 
@AnderBiguri hehe, my last year of master's the missus was working, then when I moved here for me PhD, I was suddenly the one working and roles shifted. From summer though she has a full time teaching job, so will earn more than me again
 
12:14 PM
hehe nice!
 
But I get paid decently enough; I save ~25% on my wage in total
 
and that's CH wage...
paid in gold bars
 
hahaha
 
wait you get gold bars here?
where do I apply?
 
To be fair, I thought about that when deciding where to do a PhD. 25% is 25%, and given that most unis pay proportional to cost of living about the same, that didn't matter much. But when I move to another country, it's suddenly the absolute amount as opposed to the percentual amount. And then CH money is better than, say, Czech
@flawr No, you voted down that referendum a few years back, to have the true gold reserve for the franc back
(Rightly so IMO, as you'd have to store like 5 times the global gold mining output in bars in Bern)
 
12:19 PM
@Adriaan huh I don't remember that one
 
yep I just looked it up, now I do remember
I wanted to add to the law that @flawr gets 0.01% of the gold, but they declined so I voted against it.
And I don't get it, nobody would even have noticed the 0.01% gone...
 
that is fair
 
 
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2:14 PM
@AnderBiguri your sugar mama!
 
hahhaha
yes
 
 
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Sam
4:42 PM
@AnderBiguri That's exactly what I'm hoping on
 
Sam
Although I'd rather just eat food in. Not out. It's not acceptable to sit on a pair of shorts at a fancy restaurant
@AnderBiguri I applied btw. And had a call back :)
 
nice! how was that?
 
Sam
Yeah we talked about the two different schemes. I'm having a more detailed discussion on Monday with one of the academics
Who also used to be one of my undergrad lecturers!
 
That is very nice news man
 
Sam
4:45 PM
Theres a EPSRC centre and a UKRI centre
 
When would you know if your application is succesfull?
@Sam you mean at Swansea?
 
Sam
and AFAIK the UKRI is more of a collaborative setting with unis across Wales or UK
@AnderBiguri They begin shortlisting next week apparently
 
@Sam yes, this is the one you have sent before, the CDT
 
Sam
I'm also not entirely sure what the process is so I couldn't say :D
 
they have also a EPSRC CDT then?
 
Sam
4:47 PM
@AnderBiguri Yeah.
You familiar with both??
 
@Sam my gf used to be admin of a EPSRC CDT in Bristol
 
Sam
Should I prefer one to the other?
 
not really
it will depend more in local management than the isntitution
 
Sam
Cool. I should have more clarity on Monday regarding the two different setups.. What is the usual process from application to decision?
 
But all CDTs need to have quite a high level of management to get funding by research councils, so they are great palces to do PhDs
@Sam they just... chose šŸ˜ƒ I suspect they will interview the best candidates
but the intial steps are very similar as how you got into your udnergrad, but isntead of checking your A levels grades they will check your CV and cover leter, I assume
 
4:50 PM
Slightly off-topic, but: can annyone recommend a nice image editor that's simpler than Photoshop/Gimp? Similar to those found in mobile phones, which let you do the most common adjustments. With Photoshop I always find I'm barely scratching the surface, and I find most tasks difficult
 
Sam
@LuisMendo opencv :P
 
@LuisMendo I generally use gimp, and I have no idea of image editing. its generally relatively simple to crop/resize etc
 
@AnderBiguri Is it simpler than Photoshop? I hear they are similar. I'd like simplicity of use
 
Sam
@AnderBiguri Awesome. Seeing as I had a call today and another on Monday it looks like its quite a fast process
 
@Sam Or Matlab :-D
 
Sam
4:51 PM
@LuisMendo paint.net is that still a thing
 
@Sam you applied in the last day šŸ˜ƒ but yeah, should be good. You have experience and know the people, its likely you have solid chances. Depends mostly on other aplicants I guess
@LuisMendo meh, it is simple, but you still need to get a bit used to tools I guess...
 
@Sam Have you used it? Would you recommend it?
@AnderBiguri Maybe I'll try it. Thanks
 
Sam
@LuisMendo I used it a long time ago. Its quite simple. But looks like MS only
 
I find that its maybe what photoshop was 10 years ago, so it has less shenanigans, which makes a noob find shite faster
 
@Sam I want it for Windows, yes
@AnderBiguri I like that :-) With Photoshop for instance I never use layers or any advanced stuff
 
Sam
4:54 PM
@LuisMendo ah, then yeah from what I remember the UI is geared to be as similar to the built in version of paint
 
@Sam But with more features I hope? Paint is too simple
 
Sam
getpaint.net this looks like the one
 
@LuisMendo I never use that stuff in gimo either. It has it, but I just kind of ignore all that and do simple editing
 
Sam
@LuisMendo Yup, there's the notion of layers etc
 
I'd use paint, but does not keep resolution of stuff when resized etc, its quite bad for keeping image quality
 
Sam
4:55 PM
Whip out the lasso!
@AnderBiguri whilst on the subject of uni.... what's generally the contracts like with outside interest? I have my own company which I'd like to keep my own
 
you can do what you want
Lots of professors will have their own companies too
 
Sam
It's not like The Big Bang Theory were the uni takes 90% ?
 
no limit legally.
@Sam I think there may be a distinction. If you try to make a company with results from Uni research, then you may have problems
unless you do it from the uni umbrella
 
Sam
@AnderBiguri I'll be sure to declare it should I be successful.
 
but unis get a lot of rep from that, so they have systems to help you make the company in fact
But in general unis have the best contracts for emplyoment in the UK
so I doubt you will have any issue
 
Sam
4:59 PM
awesome. I'm excited :-)
 
Let us know how the Monday chat goes :)
 
Sam
Sure will. Have a good weekend. Hope your GF spoils you. lol
 
break a leg
 
Oh, Gimp's name is actually a reference to the character in Pulp Fiction. That might tip the scales in its favour :-) Thanks @AnderBiguri @Sam
 
oh wow did not know that
 
5:03 PM
Now I have that angry-saxophone music in my head :-D
 
I didn't know that
 
The mascot is a bit lighter than what it references
 
Anything is lighter than that scene
 
But gimp is nice. I've been using it intermittently for a long while, but with remote teaching it's been extra useful in turning messy photos into something printable for mid-terms
 
In other news, and even more off-topic: I proudly introduce my new song, Make do
5
 
Sam
5:39 PM
@LuisMendo Awesome. All instruments by yourself? Or is it some kind of digital line up?
 
6:01 PM
@LuisMendo Very nice!
I'm annoyed by the progress bar's bars having no correlation with the music, but I'll let that slide :P
 
@Sam All played by me, except the drums, programmed by me. No one wants to play with me
:-(
:-D
 
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
 
@AndrasDeak Yeah, Soundcloud seems to make those up...
^ :-)
Well, the amplitude of the bars seems to drop a little in the "breakdown" section starting at 1:10
 
correlation, not causality ;)
 
7:04 PM
@LuisMendo what kind of bass are you playing?
 
 
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8:11 PM
You know the question will be exquisite when it's titled "Traffic Model script explanation? (MATLAB)".
> I am new to MATLAB and I have been given this script to see what it does. I plan to create a block diagram on how this script works. The comments help out to see what each section does but I need someone to explain for example: "what does the while loop do when time is less than tend? Not sure how to really ask other than elaborate more on the sections if you know what is going on. (I know there's a whole bunch of variables and links to other scripts). Anything can help thank you!
I am new to MATLAB, I was given the task of understanding this code, please explain this code.
now that the gentlemen are here :P
 
@flawr It's a six-string bass (Squier Bass VI). It's tuned like a guitar but one octave lower. I changed the strings to LaBella's. The stock strings were too floppy. These are thicker, but it still sounds lighter than a normal bass. It has a very bright sound, which I like
@AndrasDeak Voted. "Here's a code dump, please tell me that it does". Tsk
@flawr BTW: my new favourite guitarist. Here playing one of my favourite guitars (Telecaster), doing a great cover of Paul Simon's Graceland
 
 
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10:26 PM
@LuisMendo that guy is not playing for the first time
 
10:42 PM
@LuisMendo What kind of different physical properties do these strings have? (I have no clue aobut string types, still just strumming on my nylon-stringed guitar:)
 
11:10 PM
@flawr Mainly three: thickness, material, type of winding. Thicker strings sound fuller, more bassy. Core and string material can be nickel or steel. The usual is nickel-plated steel. Pure steel strings sound brighter, more trebly, but wear out the frets more. Pure nickel strings sound less bright. Winding can be: round-wound strings (the usual) and flat-wound strings. The latter are sometimes used for bass guitars, and sound darker, less trebly
The ones I have now are nickel-plated steel, round-wounds
Whoops
Flat-wound. Thanks! Corrected
 
no problem :)
 
Round-wound vs flat-wound strings for bass guitars is a bit like Vi vs Emacs: people tend to have strong opinions
 
so round-wound
 
haha, was just about to say that:P
 
Haha. My order was arbitrary
 
11:14 PM
now you tell me ;)
 
@flawr This cover is even better. I lost count how many times I've watched the video (I like the original song a lot). They make it seem effortless
 
11:27 PM
From the FFTW documentation: "This outputs a ā€œnerd-readableā€ representation of the plan [...]"
That is an accurate description...
 
heh
What does that look like?
 

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