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8:48 AM
Hi @TroyHaskin
 
9:42 AM
Hi @Dev-iL, @Adriaan
Oh god this guy
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Q: How to find similarity of two patterns

ElyI have a problem to find the similarity of two patterns. I use LCS of this two pattern to represent their longest common part. For example given a pattern P=012(32)231(43) and a pattern Q=231(43)40(12)321 their longest common sequence is LCS(P,Q)= 0,1,2,3,4,(43) I want to find similarit...

 
Hi @BillBokeey :) How you doin'?
 
9:58 AM
A bit of a headache due to the traditionnal beer tuesday and dumb posts on SO :D What about you @Dev-iL ?
 
10:16 AM
Hehe I'm good... just having some pointless discussion with some people at work
 
I know the struggle..
 
10:28 AM
I'll probably try to answer the question I posted last night
 
Which one?
 
There's only 1 :) just a minute...
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Q: Showing a new image inside existing axes w/o deleting the colorbar

Dev-iLI am working on a GUI that is being initialized by creating several axes along with an invisible colorbar for each one (this is done so that axes maintain their predefined Position)1. The handles to all axes and colorbars are stored. Interactions with the UI may result in images being plotted on...

 
 
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11:50 AM
Hello, gentlemen - @AndrasDeak @Adriaan
 
@Dev-iL does that include me and András in the gentlemen, or does this mean you do not consider us to be thus and therefore we require special mention?
 
@Dev-iL sup
@Adriaan he clearly said "gentlemen - Andrasdeak Adriaan", so we are explicitly excluded:P
 
@Adriaan In the 2nd case I'd say "Good morning gentlemen, and Adriaan"
@AndrasDeak All good, almost resolved my problem :)
 
@Dev-iL Glad to hear it. I was starting to worry that one of your Q's might get un-A'd by yourself;)
 
@AndrasDeak now that you mention it, I was thinking maybe I should add a CW answer to all of my questions right from the start
 
12:03 PM
:D
Why?
 
So that we don't get to the situation, god forbid, that one of my Q's might get un-A'd by myself :P
 
Hi everyone
 
12:19 PM
@Dev-iL Oooh. Good idea!;)
Hi @BillBokeey
 
I'd need a bit of help if you have a few minutes to spare ^^
 
1:07 PM
what do you need?
@BillBokeey
 
Well actually it's not clear, so i will think more about it to be precise ^^
 
@Dev-iL aer you going to self answer that also?
 
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A: Showing a new image inside existing axes w/o deleting the colorbar

Dev-iLI've managed to come up with a couple of solutions: safeUpdateImage1 - Based on the circumvention of cla(...) via the creation of a new Image object inside the axes after using hold. This is good for cases when an Image doesn't necessarily exist in the axes. safeUpdateImage2 - Following mikkola...

 
I'm having fun at implementing a card game in MATLAB but would like to be able to connect several instances of MATLAB (Say 4 different computers in a mechanics lab whistles), in order to play it in real time -- The most precise i can do for now @AnderBiguri
 
@AnderBiguri You might say that :D, or as a certain famous musician once said - "Oops I did it again" ;)
 
1:11 PM
@Dev-iL certain famous musician XD
@BillBokeey w00t. I guess use TCP?
 
I included some tricks in the solution code to make it extra educational :)
 
@AnderBiguri Yeah, procrastinating is being brought to a whole new level :D
 
@BillBokeey - Is this done to train some neural networks? As a part of some crazy homework assignment (that forces you for unclear reasons to do it in MATLAB)? Or perhaps just a side project that you're undertaking for the sake of your personal interest?
 
@Dev-iL It's just for my personal interest (No homework anymore for me ^^). And Matlab because I got only that installed on my work's PC
 
when I want to slack off and I want to do it programing
I've been doing project euler
its educational also!
 
1:20 PM
@BillBokeey - you should probably use any other language for that (python?)... :)
 
Yeah true!
@Dev-iL (There is also a little bet going on involving beer about whether i'll be able to do it or not ;) )
@Dev-iL But it has to be Matlab
 
... did the bet specifically say MATLAB? Ok... ;)
Which game? does it have to be graphical or just command-line ?
 
Wait i'm looking for the name of the game in english ^^
 
You know it in which language? (say that, maybe I'll understand)
 
It's "belote contrée" in french
card game with 32 normal playing cards
7-Ace in every color
 
1:24 PM
Belote (French pronunciation: ​[bəlɔt]) is a 32-card trick-taking game played in France, and is one of the most popular card games in that country. It was invented around 1920, probably from Klaverjas, Klaverjassen, a game played since at least the 17th century in the Netherlands. Closely related games are played throughout the world, and its rules first published in 1921. Within the game's terminology, belote is used to designate a pair of a King and a Queen of a trump suit, possibly yielding the game's name itself. Variations on the game include Baloot in Saudi Arabia, and Pilotta in Cyprus....
 
A crappy interface will be enough
 
?
 
Yeah almost, although the rules slightly differ
 
@LuisMendo this question is a clusterfuck lol
 
wich question?
 
1:27 PM
@BillBokeey - it also reminds me of this:
Preferans (Russian: преферанс; IPA: [prʲɪfʲɪˈrans]) is an Eastern European 10-card plain-trick game with bidding, played by three or four players with a 32-card Piquet deck. It is a sophisticated variant of the Austrian game Préférence, which in turn descends from Spanish Ombre and French Boston. Popular in Russia since approximately the 1830s, Preferans quickly became the country's national card game. Although superseded in this role by Durak, it is still one of the most popular games in Russia. Similar games are played in Eastern Europe from Lithuania to Greece, where an earlier form of Russian...
 
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Q: Making two matrix from one

richi12I have a matrix that I would like to split into two separate matrices based on a set of conditions. The input matrix can be generated with the following code: lbits = 8; ntags = 10; k = randi(lbits,1,ntags); Tag = zeros(lbits,ntags); Tag(lbits*(find(k)-1) + k)=1; TagAnswer = Tag'; Which re...

I think I fixed it
 
2:28 PM
What's the return of class(axes) in MATLAB versions prior to R2014b?
 
Sec, I'll check
@excaza double
...like any other handle probably....
 
oops
I should have checked that lol
with HG2 it returns matlab.graphics.axis.Axes
That's all I used for my check so this function will throw an error every time someone with a version prior to R2014b tries to use it :p
 
Yeah, I know why it happens
I just forgot to account for it
 
ok ok... Just saying... :)
But you know, there are ways to specifically test for hg1 / hg2
 
2:40 PM
Yes
 
Also, testing for hg2 does not necessarily mean that a person has a version >= R2014b...
 
I'm testing for version, not HG2
 
version ?
 
2:56 PM
@excaza I quit trying to understand what the question meant. Well done decipheirng it! :-)
 
@Luis, are you still working on MTLB ?
 
*MATL (even says so in the room topic)
 
oh yeah
 
3:11 PM
@AnderBiguri Sure! This week I'll publish a new version of the document with some (small) modifications, and the compiler for you guys to test it (and probably find a lot of bugs) :-)
I'll publish it in esolangs.org/wiki/MATL, and I'll post a notice here as well
@AnderBiguri You caught the Code Golf bug, didn't you? ;-)
 
3:25 PM
Hi @LuisMendo
 
@BillBokeey Hello!
 
3:39 PM
@LuisMendo just abit
ive been too busy lately
but definitely ill give more trys in the future
 
4:02 PM
what's with all the fminunc and fmincon and whatever they are named functions? I never encountered them outside noob-homework questions on SO
 
not many people use them
 
except some lectures apparently
 
one has generally a method to solve the specific problem
like, I use a variant of stochastic gradient descend
thats in, no need of black-box matlab fucntions
I think they are not bad, but the only question one can have about them is "I dont know how to use it"
because if you know how to pass the parameters, you dont need to do anything more XD
its binary knoledge
either you know how to use it, or you dont
 
@AnderBiguri Exactly. I should bookmark a few generic duplicate, such as those functions, indexing, second output of min, max etc, my DO NOT USE DYNAMIC VARIABLES....
 
yes
it woudl be nice to learn properly how to use the function and write a generic question/asnwer on how to use fminc properly.
I jsut cant be bothered
 
4:12 PM
@AndrasDeak this hotel... it asks for my "Settlement" instead of city/town xD
The reservation is in Hungarian :D
Also, what's up in Budapest 12/13 december? King's was fully booked...
 
Jesus, anyone hear anything about Turkey shooting down the russian Plane? lol or is this old news and I'm behind
 
@Ballbreaker you're behind.
Yesterday 14:00 UTC afaik
 
Ahh
So not tooooo behind at least
The only reason I even heard about it, is because I googled Ottoman empire lol
I was trying to figure out if Hungary used to be considered part of it
 
4:30 PM
@Ballbreaker Try calling @AndrasDeak Ottoman and check his response ;)
 
@Andras you're a dirty Ottoman!
Now we wait..
 
5:03 PM
Where are these wonderful schools that tell people to use software they've never used before and refuse to provide help for them if necessary?
 
No idea, my guess is China
 
That feel when the error checking is longer than the rest of the code :(
 
5:46 PM
@excaza TBH, thats how I learned MATLAB
I just did manage to learn it googling, instead of asking stupid questions that could be solved with RTFM
 
@AnderBiguri Same here... It's just that we didn't have SO back in the day :)
 
haha I think there was in my day, i just didnt went inside
 
6:04 PM
lol I'm just a year older than you are....
 
pfft, I'm older than all of yous.
but to be fair, I didn't know about StackOverflow until I graduated. I never used it until after... which is ironic.
Because I should have used it WHILE IN SCHOOL.
 
@rayryeng - but then you wouldn't be known as a helpful member of society, but rather a whiny unintelligible GIEFMEC0DEZ guy
 
hahahaha
what society are we speaking of sir?
but thank you :)
 
Why, the society of people having badges
 
oh :D thanks.
This is probably one of the most stupidest questions I've ever seen
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Q: Equation of a line in mat-lab plot

udAyKumArVermA How can i get the approximate equation of this black line in the given mat-lab plot?

How did you draw that black line? When you figure out how you drew it, that's how you find the equation of the line. — rayryeng 37 secs ago
 
6:12 PM
lol mah man, think you grossly misunderstood
 
There's no code!
Just hey here's a figure. How do I find out what the equation of this line is?
He had to have written code to draw the line at some point. When he figures that out, he can figure out the equation of the line.
 
I think the OP drew the line in some paintbrush , and what they want to do is simply average the points
to get some representative constant value
...probably of the encircled points
 
Because the OP is using SVMs, it would help to actually know what the coefficients are.
 
a picture's worth a 1000 words ;)
 
those coefficients will give you what that line is. Getting it just from the plot itself is ambiguous.
 
6:15 PM
maybe OP wants to get XData and YData of the line, and fit a constant to it ;)
 
ok, instead I'll ask where the code for that is to generate the plot.
 
Sometimes it's difficult to put what you want in words :)
...for example when counting in French
 
How was this figure generated? Please share the code on how this plot came to be. Showing us that code is a good start and it may be one step closer from not getting voted to close. — rayryeng 29 secs ago
Counting in French? oh c'mon lol
well I speak French so it isn't difficult for me, but I do get your point.
 
lol I don't really know what I'm talking about (besides the fact they use base 40 or something like that)... It's just notoriously difficult convoluted
 
oh yes
The number 80 is a bit messed up
The actual translation is 420 - quatre-vingt
because 4 x 20 = 80.
then they use the base of 80 to count up from there to 100
so 87 is quatre-vingt sept
420 7
then when you get to 90, then it's base 80 plus 10 lol
quatre-vingt dix.
and 95, for example would be quatre-vingt quinze - 420 15
yes, I'll admit that learning the numbers in French is a bit messed up... but I got used to it
 
6:20 PM
99 => four-twenty-ten-nine
 
yeah lol
it's also the same for 60.
so the base is 60... soixante.
then if you go to 70, it's base 60 + 10
soixante dix
@Dev-iL yes exactly lol.
99 - quatre-vingt dix-neuf
so at base 60 and at base 80 is where that messed up counting begins
I remember when I was younger, we spent a week in school just learning to count, so I yes I do see your point.
 
@Adriaan I don't think there's anything specific...not that I know of. But I'm not much versed in the pastimes of the plebeians:P
 
k ppl, smell ya later, got a bus to catch
 
@Ballbreaker Imma crush yo ass, mofo
BTW we have a bunch of turkish words assimilated into our own:)
 
@Dev-iL laterz
 
6:24 PM
@Dev-iL bye bye
 
@rayryeng Thats basque for you
they say that one of the reasons is because basques were sheep farmers
and generally youd own about 20 sheep
 
Oh yeah @AnderBiguri I've been meaning to ask: is Basque and/or Spanish your native laguage?
 
both yeah
 
thanks:) cool
 
I did actually study until my Masters everything in Basque
 
6:26 PM
Is Basque a dialect of Spanish?
 
but its part of spain, and not the whole percentage of population speaks it, so I also know spanish
@rayryeng Basque is pre-latin
 
oh is it? wow, that's interesting.
 
Oldest language in Europe.
(here I am, bragging about basque again XD)
 
@AnderBiguri well, @ray is a language connoisseur, so it's OK:)
I'm also moderately interested in linguistics (mostly etymology)
 
@AndrasDeak that is very interesting sir!
If it wasn't for engineering, I probably would have gotten into linguistics. I love languages as well.
Just the different nuances between each language... what is considered slang... what isn't... the different colloquialisms.
 
6:37 PM
Yeah, I guess I'd also be a linguist if I turned out to be an arts major:P
But I don't really get involved in the area
I just every once in a while realize that some part of linguistics is interesting
 
For sure.
Languages and Machine Learning always go hand in hand... look at Natural Language Processing. That stuff is awesome.
Do you know of the Android app called SwiftKey?
It's a keyboard app made by some folks in the UK where they use a neural network to predict the next things you're going to say to minimize typing.
once you give it permission, it scans your email and texts to build a neural network model of the things that you're possibly going to say next
once you type in a word, it lists several sentences that you may want to say, and you choose the sentence you want, or you can ignore them and keep typing.
It's saved me many hours of typing lol. When I type in I, it lists 10 different possibilities
 
@rayryeng yup
 
I am going to be late. Be there in 10 minutes
I am coming right now
 
though I didn't know about the neural network thing until you mentioned it sometimes earlier:)
 
I am going to get us some dinner
oh :D cool
 
6:47 PM
@rayryeng it works for sexting as well, yes?
:P
 
lmao.
I turn it off when I sext.
;)
 
Then explain "I am coming right now"
 
Dirty asshole lol
I am coming right now refers to me coming home or leaving to meet my wife.
 
@rayryeng :D Whatever rocks your boat. Amirite @Ballbreaker
 
It's the ball breaker and dirty asshole
a match made in heaven.
 
6:55 PM
@rayryeng you can start holy fires with it then
 
lmao
 
@AndrasDeak That's super gay man, r u gey?
 
@AnderBiguri
Aproximatedly y=0.6Ander Biguri 34 mins ago
:D
 
@rayryeng "I will be working late tonight. Don't stay up"
 
Don't stay up isn't part of that sentence, but yes I have that in there.
 
7:00 PM
"I'm going out with some buddies tonight. Don't stay up"
"I am cheating on you, don't stay up"
lmao sorry
 
smh lol
That last line isn't for me, that's for you buddy :P
 
I ain't no cheater!
 
yeahhhhh
 
Cheating implies that I'm in an exclusive, monogamous relationship lol
Also that banter between you an Andras up there is absolutely hilarious
@AndrasDeak Lmao so good
 
lmao. thanks buddy
how's it going on your end man?
I'm finishing up this stupid patent application.
Got a couple of more diagrams to do.
 
7:04 PM
:D
 
Ehh, shit ended for goodsies with #2. I started a new task today for designing an interface to map between an RTU and our SCADA application, using Modbus protocol
So that's kinda kewl
 
@rayryeng he's got a bit of a ConDom situation:P
 
But mostly just tedious
 
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
@AndrasDeak Eh it's just a Con situation now lol
I broke the ConDom ..
dooo tss tss da tss tss tss doo da tss tss doo tss tss da tss tss doo da do
Monday warrior mean mean stride, today's tom sawyer mean, mean pride!
 
7:09 PM
@Ballbreaker Ah, I see man
@rayryeng his words, not mine:P
 
oh was it?
Damn, and I was just about to applaud you.
 
Yeah man, I actually told you that first Ray
and you said
....wtf?
 
@rayryeng I'm nowhere this funny:P
But thanks;)
 
pats self on the back
 
7:13 PM
Sorry I don't remember that buddy
Lots of shit happening right now
 
hha its fine man
My VP just came up to me to correct some of my grammar mistakes
I think I got too butthurt about it
It was where my chinese coworker wrote garbage and I had to fix it and rewrite it, while not really understanding what he was talking about lol
Lol, I'm too tight today
I really need to stop being so anal
#buttholejokes
 
7:29 PM
Oh and @Ballbreaker a large portion of Hungary was ruled by the Ottoman Empire for 150 years
 
Okay that's what I thought
I couldn't actually find it easily, so thanks!
 
It's really funny and typical how it started
 
By that I mean I didn't really search that hard lol
yea?
 
Our king Matthias forged a peace treaty with the Ottomans
decades after his death, peace envoys came and went, prolonging the treaty
then once the Hungarians said "Hey, we haven't been fighting with the Ottomans for a long time, why should we care for some stupid treaty?!" and they imprisoned the Ottoman delegation:D
then came the Ottomans, won at the Battle of Mohács (a historical tragedy of epic proportions to us), and occupied us for 150 years
kinda descriptive of how my people think about the world.....
 
Lolz
That's pretty funny, and also classic
I think imprisoning the Ottoman delegation was not a smart move though
 
7:33 PM
Yup...we're reaaaally good at international politics, up to this day.
 
I mean if they were like "Eh who cares about this treaty, let's not extend it" the Ottomans might not have responded in the same manner lol
but "Let's break the treaty to see what happens" lol seems like the case, am I right?
 
Yup. Though I couldn't find a quick reference on wikipedia, but this is one of the few vivid memories from high school History
 
oh jesus lol
600 men killed, vs 10,000 killed
This battle seems different though
Ohhh I'm looking at the second battle
When you guys got spanked by the romans
lmao omg
"The Hungarian army was arrayed to take advantage of the terrain and hoped to engage the Ottoman army piecemeal. The only advantage the Magyars had that day was that their troops were well-rested, while the Turks had just completed a strenuous march in scorching summer heat. But rather than attacking their fatigued enemy then, the Hungarians just watched as they struggled through the marshy terrain. It would have been "unchivalrous" to attack the enemy when they were not yet ready for battle."
What are you guys? Canadians?
 
:D I think this was some heavy post-mortem rationalization
"we didn't fuck up, it was intentional"
 
lmao
 
7:42 PM
This, along with a few other defeats, is a bit of a sensitive subject to a lot of my countrymen
 
"Mohács is seen by many Hungarians as the decisive downward turning point in the country's history, a national trauma that persists in the nation's folk memory." lol
 
Mohács is not as bad as the Trianon treaty, but similar
My people like to sulk on the past.
And it's never an option that we screwed up. We were wronged by everyone else.
 
Hahahaha
Gotta love that
 
@Ballbreaker oh yeah it's reeeally fun:P
 
Hey, well I come from a country that has like 200 years of history
excluding the natives
 
7:45 PM
@Ballbreaker :D And a very polite one at that.
 
We beat the arrogance back down to the US and Quebec
lol jk
 
History is interesting
I find it interesting how much combat has changed in the last thousand years
Up until world war 1 (and even then, still ( a little)) It was so standard and organized
One line marching against the opposing line
Then WW2 basically just sparked guerilla warfare
 
Yeah, I attended a lecture by a science historian guy at our university, very interesting person (also involved in future research, time bombs and the like). He explained that up until ww2 the main objective was to wound the enemy, to make him unable to combat. Then the priorities changed to killing/annihiliating the enemy.
And they're getting better and better at it.
So in old days it was pretty cool and beneficial that guns were bordering useless:D
Slow to load, and lacking any precision
You shot in the general direction of the enemy, and had good chances that you'd go to the infirmary (rather than the ground) if they shot in your general direction.
 
Yeah, the ideals of a soldier in society have changed as well. People used to hold them in higher regard
I suppose that's because they changed from defenders to executioners
I've always been highly engaged by strategy. I have a pretty good mind for it, but I don't think I would be able to convince myself these days that I was doing the right thing
 
7:58 PM
Hi guys. I noticed this chat is about as on topic as the nineteenth byte, so I thought I'll join=)
 
@Ballbreaker heh. "right thing"
@flawr Welcome!:)
 

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