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5:24 AM
hello @ all
nurka is developing a new habit: reopenening questions
anyway, close this with this
 
5:56 AM
@Jaap yes, I have seen him reopening a lot of his posts recently.
I guess like all other things we can't do much about this either..
 
6:11 AM
good morning all
 
Hello hello :-)
 
7:04 AM
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9:26 AM
@mtoto good thread & strongly agree too
 
9:53 AM
it is anyway very good to follow the twitter threads of Norman Matloff; high educational value :-)
 
yep, he also wrote a pretty good summary of R vs Python for DS: github.com/matloff/R-vs.-Python-for-Data-Science
 
10:43 AM
@mtoto I somewhat agree with this as "tidyverse advocate" is actually thing (and makes me want to puke). But in reality tidyverse is somewhat easier for new users and hence I can understand it's growing popularity.
I saw this question yesterday and I kind of felt for the OP when he wrote "I want to make a modification on the code, but I barely understand it"- data.table code is indeed sometimes hard to understand- even for veterans.
Also, in todays data science world no one wants to really understand things rather use different building blocks in order to achieve their goal - this way pretty much anyone can be a data scientist- which is a complete opposite of being a statistician back in the day
 
 
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11:46 AM
Agree that data.table can be cryptic sometimes. My main issue is though that a commercial entity (RStudio) is attempting to dominate an entire language and makes new users believe that there is only one right way to do things. Not to mention the frequent changes to function names and default behaviours (complete overhaul of tidyr, anyone?) that makes the whole ecosystem a moving target.
 
12:02 PM
@mtoto Yeah, I believe I've already expressed very similar concerns myself quite a few times. I'm just saying that despite all that- tidyverse is accepted much smoother by new users- that seem to be the reality.
 
 
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2:25 PM
weird, i've been rbinding this list (manually entered in code for reasons) for a long time and now it errors whenever the list has more than three items:
L = list(
    list(e_id = "AA180920", date = as.IDate("2018-08-13"), time = as.ITime("18:00:00"), src = "bah"),
    list("AA180703", date = as.IDate("2018-06-08"), time = as.ITime("18:00:00"), src = "bah"),
    list("AA180703", date = as.IDate("2018-06-10"), time = as.ITime("16:58:00"), src = "bah"),
    list("AA180731", date = as.IDate("2018-06-08"), time = as.ITime("18:00:00"), src = "bah"),
    list("AA180731", date = as.IDate("2018-06-10"), time = as.ITime("16:58:00"), src = "bah"),
    list("AA180829", date = as.IDate("2018-08-20"), time = as.ITime("18:00:00"), src = "bah"),
not sure if i should bother filing / if it's considered a breaking change from github.com/Rdatatable/data.table/pull/3455 ...
might've also broken some of my SO answers (where i've certainly done rbindlist(list(list...)))
 
2:44 PM
Awesome. Just received an email from the CTO telling me to book whatever I want (training and/or tutorials) from Strata Haddop AI conference :D
Haha and he actually called me to tell me that he sent me the 2018 by mistake and that he is not trolling me :)
 
cool
 
3:27 PM
continuing my whining from last week chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/46494394#46494394 now running into more. kableExtra's functionality is great, but wowzers github.com/haozhu233/kableExtra/issues/391
 
 
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7:29 PM
@Frank didn't know that either and it also surprises me; if I remember I will ask him next week for more details (he is a close collegue)
 
@Jaap yeah, i sort-of know it, as i haven't used python much, but that was my understanding already:
Jul 17 '18 at 22:32, by Frank
@DavidArenburg NaN and NA are distinct in R for a reason. i don't want to overlap "mathematically not a number" and "no measurement / unknown number". i think this is related http://www.numpy.org/NA-overview.html (i'm talking from a point of relative ignorance here, not having used python for anything yet. this was just my takeaway/disappointment when i initially learned some python)
 
 
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9:39 PM
docs.stackoverflow lives on riptutorial.com/Download/r-language.pdf (ran into this pdf on google, looking for mongolite tutorials), seems i was among the top 10 users riptutorial.com/contributor
the site seems to have no ads and to cite properly, wonder how much is being spent keeping it up
 
10:08 PM
@Frank if you're still looking for mongolite tutorials I always go back to Jeroen's manual : jeroen.github.io/mongolite
 
 
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11:28 PM
@SymbolixAU thanks, i started there today (only found out about the package yesterday), now just need to find a good way to define a "handler" (though it looks like maybe i'd do just as well with iterator & batch)... will learn more tomorrow
 

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