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1:26 AM
@SymbolixAU no issues..take your time. I am not quite familiar with visualization.
I have started modifying the code provided by Axeman according to my need . Would definitely like to see your version too.
 
 
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7:04 AM
Morning all!
 
@RonakShah - the flight path between Germany and Fiji is looking a bit off, but I'm getting closer
morning @m0nhawk
 
@SymbolixAU Why? Look OK for me.
 
7:20 AM
yeah, it's valid in terms of the maths used to generate the path, but, I think I'd like it to look a bit flatter...
 
It's a great circle.
Then try a different projection.
 
Morning ppl
 
I usually stick to the Mollweide projection.
 
Limited by Google Maps API for the projection
 
morning all
 
7:25 AM
 
@m0nhawk - I'm not sure if / how that applies to the polyline, or whether it's just for the underlying map
morning @Jaap
 
@SymbolixAU It's for underlying map.
And I think the polyline will depend on the map itself.
Though, not sure.
 
worth looking into
 
I think it was a ggmap. It has this projection (and other).
 
good morning everyone :-)
 
Hello
@Queen k
 
@zx8754 it's not a dupe, it's a typo actually: output[i] <- instead of output[[i]]...
 
@Cath Feel free to open, and vote as typo, the title looked like 100% same to me, didn't check the text much. I am a terrible hammer.
 
@zx8754 titles are the same but actually, here OP does not wans to use multiple arguments but just to make the arguments change. I don't know if I can vote as typo if I reopened ? (and OP should be more careful with their titles ;-) )
 
Let's test it
 
7:47 AM
reopened & voted as typo
 
voted
 
@zx8754 and so one can reopen and then vote typo :-). Thanks @Jaap
thanks @Axeman
 
@SymbolixAU Hah, I should have left it to the master :)
 
Voted
Hi @Cath :)
 
:)
I'm learning as I go along
 
7:52 AM
@SymbolixAU You can do the lines that wrap around the map though? I would anticipate that will turn out very difficult with ggplot
 
Master has drawn me a graph, I am free
 
Not sure though, this is the first time I'm plotting on a map
 
do you mean across the international date line?
 
@SymbolixAU yeah
 
I think it's possible; haven't done it yet
 
7:55 AM
I know that in polar coordinates for ggplot that always makes your life difficult
Like this answer was a bit of a pain because of getting the spirals to meet up correctly
 
8:09 AM
Awesome @SymbolixAU .. Is there a different package that you are using ?
 
@RonakShah - I'm using the development version of my googleway package: github.com/SymbolixAU/googleway
 
@SymbolixAU Where did you get those download nr badges?
 
@RonakShah - you mean these: [![CRAN_Status_Badge](http://www.r-pkg.org/badges/version/googleway)](http://cr‌​an.r-project.org/package=googleway) ?
open the README.md in RAW form
 
@SymbolixAU OK got it, thanks
 
whoops - tagged the wrong person
 
8:16 AM
@SymbolixAU I'll not mind that info ;-)
 
@SymbolixAU How many of those downloads do you think are bots / scrapers? I don't really trust my download numbers, and they seem to spike enormously after an update.
 
"You want to share a spider?" - Angelina Jolie cooks bugs in Cambodia 🕷 http://bbc.in/2lzOcan https://t.co/OZ12DjpyJD
 
@zx8754 sounds delicious :)
 
Howdy
 
8:39 AM
@Axeman - no idea, hadn't really thougth about it
 
8:54 AM
paranoia strikes again:
@Jaap I think the downvote is not justified — akrun 10 mins ago
 
@Jaap I guess he got the dv because his initial answer was wrong (as far as I can see)
 
didn't look at the edits before; might indeed be the case
 
 
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@zx8754 voted
hmmm... RTFM ?...
 
voted; SO is on fire today......
 
voting voting voting, so much voting
 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42365125/sequential-difference-of-dates
Should it be closed for lack of efforts?
 
@Queen k
@m0nhawk dupe-hammered now ;-)
 
it is ironic we are closing it as "why isn't this code working?" with no code at all. :-P
 
11:44 AM
Final one!
 
LOL.. This is a question about the answer here
 
12:10 PM
500.000 rows is not big data. — Roland 9 mins ago
What is your favorite definition for "Big Data"? [please don't Google] :D
 
Well, for me, anything which you can't handle on your local system is "Big Data"
 
@zx8754 For me Big Data is a data which can't be fit in RAM, can't be stored on the HDD and can't be computed on a CPU.
 
So if we have HPC and endless storage, the data is not big?
@m0nhawk hmm, if you can't fit in HDD, you don't have that data?
 
No, if you have HPC and endless storage - then maybe you have a big data. :)
 
@zx8754 the one that was said here once
 
12:15 PM
I just tried to exaggerate all data parameters.
 
@zx8754 and that's Jaap's one:
Dec 4 '15 at 10:03, by Jaap
Big data is like teenage sex: everyone talks about it, nobody really knows how to do it, everyone thinks everyone else is doing it, so everyone claims they are doing it ...
:-)
 
@Cath nice one
but it proves noone knows what it is.
 
@zx8754 yep, exactly my point :-)
to me, it's quite relative
 
Agree, relative is the right word.
Still not complete, if you have old laptop Windows93 and CSV with 70K rows, then you have big data?
 
I don't think "big data" is about size.
It's about structure and data sources.
 
12:20 PM
@zx8754 no you have obsolete material ;-p
 
70k rows is an easy task for awk, grep etc.
 
@m0nhawk Oh, true, was trying to say Excel had limit of 66K rows in older versions.
 
And now there is slightly higher than 1M rows.
 
@Roland how many rows is big data?
 
12:30 PM
0
Q: data.table custom function with groups and conditions

PrometheusI have the following dataset: customer_id <- c("A", "A", "B", "B", "B", "B", "B", "A", "A", "B", "B") value <- c(10, 35, 20, 30, 50, 40, 30, 40, 30, 40, 10) period_30 <- c(1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) period_60 <- c(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) date <- c("01/01/2015", "01/05/2015", "...

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Q: unexpected failure of grouping in data.table

PrometheusIm not sure why my grouping in data table fails in the code below. client_id <- c("A", "A", "B", "B", "B", "B", "B", "A", "A", "B", "B") value <- c(10, 35, 20, 30, 50, 40, 30, 40, 30, 40, 10) period_30 <- c(1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) period_60 <- c(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) sign <

 
@zx8754 And why you think it's about size?
 
He commented about rows, so thought maybe rows might add to definition.
 
Second question was put on hold. It seems the OP has posted it just a second time, or am I wrong?
 
@UweBlock but has 4 reopen votes (though OP put a comment asking how to close the Q..)
 
Structure is more important in this case: when you have metadata in MongoDB, prices I'm MySQL, logs in ElasticSearch and something in plain text: then you can easily call this "big data", because most of the classic ways is unusable.
(classic way: R or Python scripting or some analysis tools, like awk, grep, Excel etc)
 
12:33 PM
There is a third one:
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Q: Casting multiple value.var controled by fun.aggregate

PrometheusI have the following dataset client_id <- c("A", "A", "B", "B", "B", "B", "B", "A", "A", "B", "B") value <- c(10, 35, 20, 30, 50, 40, 30, 40, 30, 40, 10) period_30 <- c(1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) period_60 <- c(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) sign <- c("D", "D", "D", "D", "C", "C", "C", "...

 
@UweBlock same data but I guess the questions are all different
it seems nurka's still putting link to wrong duplicates (of course without hammering) to bug some users...
I wonder if this should be flagged, it's at least not constructive (though of course it should be explained why...)
 
@akrun Are you sure that's a duplicate? Your link is a simple group/aggregate operation while the question here is much more complex and involves intermediate compuational steps. — Uwe Block 28 secs ago
 
@zx8754 I don't know, but 5e5 is not big by any definition. However, the definition is not important. Important is whether you need techniques advertised for big data. And again, you shouldn't need these with 5e5 rows.
 
12:49 PM
@UweBlock well said :-). he removed his comment.... and posted an answer...
 
@Cath That's quite confusing, indeed. The user has posted 5 questions within the last 7 days which look very similar.
 
@UweBlock I'm guessing: someone who needs a hand for each step of the analysis he has to do...
 
@Cath Perhaps an X/Y problem?
@Cath No flag required... ;-)
 
@UweBlock yep maybe (or even X/Y/Z/... ;-) )
 
1:13 PM
Sorry for the "noobity" but I always read "hammer" in this chat, but I'm not sure what you mean with that... is when a R gold-badge owner close a question with one-shot ?
 
@digEmAll That's right
 
@digEmAll It's exactly that.
@digEmAll Activity is called "hammer time". :)
 
The privilege is called Mjölnir, Thor's hammer
 
Oh, really ? Unfortunately I haven't obtained it yet... :(
 
@digEmAll You seem to have it in c#
 
1:20 PM
Yes, I have a gold badge, but I don't see any related priviledge ... mmh...
 
@digEmAll You should be able to close c# questions as dupes with a single vote, as far as I understand.
 
Ah got it, it works only for dupes... thanks :)
 
@digEmAll Also see here.
 
Oh, thanks... I've never tried this ability since I earned the badge 4 years ago and this "power" wasn't there yet...Time to get the badge for R as well :D
 
 
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3:07 PM
hi all
only a matter of time until someone posts, myMode = . %>% table %>% {names(.)[. == max(.)]} here. i see like five variations on that already stackoverflow.com/questions/2547402/…
 
@Frank I guess the protection barrier of 10 rep isn't quite high enough
 
@Frank I was gonna say the same as Axeman.
@Natty ne
 
3:23 PM
yeah re the barrier being too low
 
@Axeman just seems like an "i don't know where to start and don't want to read the absurdly long docs related to graphing". i can relate stackoverflow.com/revisions/13368771/1 still never have learned ggplot
graphing is the worst
don't know how i've never seen modifyList before. this is cool stuff:
 
4:16 PM
@Frank interestingly, modifyList authored by Deepayan Sarkar, the lattice guy
 
oh ok
 
@Frank I should add some examples using lubridate and anytime packages...
 
also a member of r core (unsurprisingly since he's writing things like modifyList)
@UweBlock you're joking because you saw my improvement req..?
 
@Frank no, I didn't saw the request
 
@UweBlock oh ok, i think the main topic "date and time" should only contain ways of handling things in base. any package-dependent ways can be spun off into separate topics and linked to
ditto as much as possible for other Topics, i think...
@Uwe here's an edit i did earlier this month: stackoverflow.com/documentation/review/changes/125141
that's why there are so few examples there now
 
4:22 PM
I saw the example "Go to end of month".
Excellent, there seems be a lot of stuff already.
Times & dates are always tricky. Just spent ours to remove a bug from a package which reads a database using ROracle...
 
@Uwe discussing here stackoverflow.com/documentation/r/1157/date-and-time/… will invite him to this room
 
Without setting the appropriate environment vars, ROracle converts UTC dates & times silently into local time zone.
 
@UweBlock oy, that sounds annoying. i avoid POSIX mostly because i hate having to think about tzs
 
4:45 PM
@Frank I received this chat invitation I guess is related with date and time documentation. @Frank?
 
@DavidLeal hi, yeah, we were talking about it here already and i figured it would be simpler to talk here than via comments
my improvement request is based on my opinion about how the Docs should be organized, not some SO policy, just to be clear
SO has given essentially no guidance and didn't really provide a good place to discuss it. for now, i've made this meta post, anyone's free to edit answers there, intended to reflect whatever consensus we arrive at meta.stackoverflow.com/q/343198
 
ok, perfect...I didnt know that this chat even exists. I read your comment, your idea to spin-off the example into a new topic probably it is a great idea, but I am not so familiar with this package, I just used it for this particular problem that I had. I don't feel confortable proposing a topic that I am not really to much familiar
 
@DavidLeal ok, fair enough
fyi, in chat here, you can hover over someone else's comment and click a little reply arrow appearing in the lower right to reply
this particular room is mostly r folks and mostly in the GMT time zone
 
Said, that, my approach would be to delete it, your are right it is a huge topic, or just wait until some one take the idea to spin-off it with more knowledge than me
 
@DavidLeal i think it's better not to delete it, since it's hard to find deleted stuff and it'd be a waste. also, there's not much editing of the r Docs these days. if it grows too large, i can prune it again (having done it a few weeks ago: stackoverflow.com/documentation/review/changes/125141 )
or someone else can
 
4:55 PM
@Frank Ok, better idea, I think collaboration with documentation is a great idea, because you can have the documentation consistently ordered. The search engine of Stackoverflow is not good enough, I ALWAYS get better results using google for searching something in SO. I just wanted to contribute because sometimes for answering a question, you need to know the concrete problem. So this is a good solution for helping with general topics.
@Frank, thanks for taking your time...that's impressive you have 3.7.7k reputation!, I am just at the beginning of the road, :-)
 
@DavidLeal yeah, your contribution is great, i'm just harping on a minor organizational issue is all. re searching, i do the same thing
@DavidLeal thanks :) well, you know more than i do (e.g., i never saw modifyList before), so i'm sure you could contribute plenty here if so inclined
 
@Frank thanks. You mentioned something about a wiki in your response what is the difference? My understanding was that a wiki is a kind of question/answer that other people can contribute, but then you don't get any reputation. I prefer to focus on activities that I can earn reputation because it gives you more privileges and better possibilities to participate.
 
@DavidLeal by wiki i just meant that we should use lots of internal links between Topics, not with respect to gaining rep
 
@Frank And when they just launched Documentation on SO, people here wasn't very impressed with it usefulness.
 
5:10 PM
@m0nhawk yeah, for a variety of reasons, most of which still apply. anyway, we could try to improve on the content
 
5:43 PM
@Frank We need to delete some stuff there
Also, I'm not sure David Leal should have write access here according to our rules....
 
@DavidArenburg i thought our rules meant "you definitely get access at 1k rep" which doesn't preclude getting access earlier
i've invited others below 1k rep before, i guess
 
hmmm... I never interpreted it this way
 
ok, i can use R public next time, then
 
Im not very strict with the rules myself but I recall we had a vote here once and most of the permanents decided to keep the limit
 
@DavidArenburg i don't usually read "if" as "if and only if"
 
5:50 PM
yeah, that's fine
you always have an interesting view on stuff :)
I'm trying to find that discussion we had regarding the room rules long ago
 
@DavidArenburg yeah, same, can't find it
Sep 17 '15 at 13:09, by Frank
room topic changed to GMTs: Euro time zone general chat. Anyone can say whatever they want as long as it is respectful of others. If you have over 1k rep and want write access, please ask for it. (no tags)
that?
Sep 17 '15 at 12:35, by David Arenburg
Though I agree with @Jaap to allow exceptions (as I'm already doing)
rare case where i'd say they should have wider rather than longer data: stackoverflow.com/q/42374320
 
I dont think so
I mean the links
 
ok, yeah, not sure where the other (later?) discussion is
all edits except your reprieve for the french were on the first day github.com/DavidArenburg/GMTs/commits/gh-pages
@DavidArenburg you can go ahead and mark whichever for deletion and i'll have a look. i agree it's a lot of junk there
 
6:08 PM
@Frank not sure I have time for this right now
 
ok, well i've starred it, so it'll come up again
 
by looking on the rooms log I see how many regulars we had once that left for good :(
 
I wonder if this should be duped as merge dupe, since the no answer in the dupe target addresses the by.x/by.y thing it seems stackoverflow.com/questions/42374846/…
@Queen k
 
dunno, i'm not a fan of the left right upside-down join Q&A so i'd be fine not duping it
 
lol
why so?
it seem to cover pretty much all the options (including benchmarks) several times
 
@DavidArenburg the OP is targeted at people who know what those SQL terms mean, as are the top answers
maybe if the left right etc got cut from the title i'd dislike it less
 
I think the title covers all audiences
it has both "join" and "merge" and also the rest of the remonology
I dont think it hurts in anyway having multiple searchable keywords
 
6:32 PM
yeah, i guess you're right
 
non of the answers addresses joining by different column names though
 
top answer and @smci mention by.x and by.y at least, the latter with some link
 
And a usual, many answers with almost identical content
I never understand that
its like some SO disease
 
re smci's, it doesn't seem at all useful to have a "status of this not-yet-mature package three years ago" as an answer, though...
 
yeah, he could have just edited the other dplyr answers
 
6:36 PM
why do that when posting your own means free rep, eh?
 
This guy posted in Jan 29th 2014 stackoverflow.com/a/21438584/3001626
then this guy posts this a week later stackoverflow.com/a/21614548/3001626
this is redicilous
and all get tons of votes
 
yup
and none of the OPs maintain their answers
e.g., JD Long points to a wiki that no longer exists... i don't think i ever even saw that wiki
 
and then smci posts his answer a month later with practically no reason like Gregor points out stackoverflow.com/questions/1299871/…
 
@DavidArenburg yeah, some bs about how not updating it benefits people, so they know the history of r merge functionality. what nonsense
 
ok, I need to go, see you guys later
 
6:47 PM
cya David
 
7:25 PM
dupe of Mode here? stackoverflow.com/q/42374345 OP just wants it lapply-ed
 
7:44 PM
nvm, OP is doing something else while boldly misusing the word "duplicates"
 
@Frank I don't get the logic they're using
4 messages moved to Trash can
 
@PierreLafortune from lmo's comment, sounds like: all strings get put in a lattice, higher up based on frequency in the full unlisted vector; then for each element, give its maximal string(s) according to the lattice's ordering
 
8:56 PM
^not sure above needs closing
 
dunno, dupe target certainly has a less bad title
 
@Frank and more views, go for it, if agree.
 
9:21 PM
eh, i'll leave it, i guess
someone could write a Docs.SO entry on it (duplicated + fromLast) to reference
close as "Sometimes bad stuff happens. Why?" stackoverflow.com/q/42378293
 
voted, btw "CO2" is R dataset
 
ok, good on them for going that far with reproducibility at least
 
@Frank they are Just Curious :)
 
true :)
i appreciate that they didn't write it as Just CuRious
 
9:38 PM
@RonakShah - let me know if this is any good; download the development version of googleway devtools::install_github("SymbolixAU/googleway") , then look at the example for ?add_polylines
3
 
@SymbolixAU Looks impressive! I am still waiting to get a chance to work with maps...
 
Hilo, HI stands out there, as much less notable than all the other cities
 
thanks @zx8754 - I only started developing the package after working on a project for a transport company, and wanted a way to use google maps to present their data
@Frank - which one's HI?
 
@SymbolixAU i mean hawaii
 
It may be because I've set a mouse_over hover action to highlight specific routes; here's the same map without any highlights
 
9:44 PM
@SymbolixAU ok, still got Hilo there, next to Honolulu, not a problem just an observation
saw the vignette, cool stuff there. somehow i forgot / didn't realize your name's "AU" means australia until i saw the "default location" there
 
@Frank - yep; if people don't set the view, I thought I'd take them to the world's most liveable city :)
 
:)
 
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Q: Convert UNIX epoch to Date object in R

AndreasI'm plotting and performing calculations on uniformly distributed time series. The timestamps are currently stored as integers representing the number of seconds since the UNIX epoch (e.g. 1352068320), but Date objects seem more appropriate for plotting. How can I do the conversion? I've read ?D...

 
9:57 PM
@m0nhawk Should that post tagged as r-faq?
 
10:33 PM
@zx8754 Yes, it's pretty suitable.
 

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