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Sam
8:56 AM
@gunr When'd be a good time to try out the test branch?
 
 
4 hours later…
12:37 PM
@Sam if we want to do it today, it's going to be earlier than we usually do reviews. I'm going to be booked solid in the (my) afternoon
 
Sam
1:44 PM
@gunr2171 Sure, what sort of time is good for you?
 
3:17 PM
@Sam uh, well, today's not going to be good for me anymore. Going to be booked solid earlier than I thought
 
Sam
3:34 PM
@gunr2171 Ok, np.
 
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6:54 PM
question for you buddy boy [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/1677912) - Mark Rajcok Feb 21 '13 at 4:09
question for you buddy [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/1677912) - Mark Rajcok Feb 21 '13 at 4:09
question for you [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/1677912) - Mark Rajcok Feb 21 '13 at 4:09
question [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/1677912) - Mark Rajcok Feb 21 '13 at 4:09
question [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/1677912) - Mark Rajcok Feb 21 '13 at 4:09
@TinyGiant See those? Even with no markdown, the question link is not working.
 
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[closed] that part isn't fixed yet
 
user4639281
That's the only part I haven't put in yet
 
Figures!
 
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Lol
 
Obviously, it installs on FF now.
 
user4639281
6:58 PM
Cool, no issues there?
 
user4639281
Firefox's sandbox is a bitch
 
None - installed over top of 1.4.6.
 
user4639281
Awesome.
 
I'm using it via mouse only, and I think the menu could be better arranged with the "daily work flow" stuff separated from config.
 
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So I'll be able to close that issue when I push the update
 
user4639281
7:00 PM
@Mogsdad You mean like a separate dialog for the config?
 
No... the most-common task will be "Send Request" - and it is a task. Setting room, checking for updates - those aren't tasks, they're (let's say) 1st degree config. The remaining items, "user/time" and "notification type" are 2nd degree config. (I'm guessing about "notification type", haven't tried it yet.)
They can all co-exist in the same menu, but need to be logically grouped and with separators or white space.
The most common action (or default if that applies) should appear first in the list.
 
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Ok. Hold on and I'll come up with something
 
The config things could appear in a second-level menu - that's a common paradigm. Putting just 2 things into a sub-menu is hard to justify, but if all 4 config things were there, it would help focus on the day-to-day.
Oh! That's what Notification Style means. [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/1677912) - Mark Rajcok Feb 21 '13 at 4:09
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Lol, not descriptive enough?
 
Honestly, no.
 
user4639281
7:10 PM
Want to suggest a better description?
 
Thinking out loud... What does "Notification" mean, in the context of the tool?
 
"UI Style" ?
 
Well, once we've made a request, we get notified that it went. We get notified of updates. And we get notified about failures.
 
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@Mogsdad Well those notifications also change based on the setting
 
But that config flag affects the way I enter text for a request.
 
user4639281
7:11 PM
But you also get prompted so notification does apply there
 
Yeah -- these are all overloaded terms.
 
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@gunr2171 I like that, but it seems ambiguous.
 
(Note: My alter-ego is a design lead with UI and UX experience.)
 
Maybe one option "Notification style: banner, alert", and another "Input style: prompt, in-line"
 
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I could do that, and it would make sense.
 
7:13 PM
@TinyGiant Ambiguous maybe... but no more than "New Coke" vs "Coke Classic"
 
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@Mogsdad Previously it was just [Classic] and [Fancy] with no header lol
 
Why would a user choose one over the other? Is there a decision term we could reference?
 
(for the record, I don't know the use case for prompts and alerts)
 
user4639281
prompts have the little input box, alerts are just text
 
@gunr2171 Me neither... I've previously mentioned some idiot blocking the alerts.
@TinyGiant umm...
 
user4639281
7:16 PM
@gunr2171 Oh now I get you
 
Would simply things to remove that config altogether and just settle on the recommended UI.
Easier for user.
Less to maintain.
 
user4639281
Yeah. If that's what you guys think then I'll just remove it.
 
^ agree, I vote removing prompts and alerts option
 
user4639281
K, working on it now.
 
Motion carried.
 
7:18 PM
@Mogsdad oh, so we should use Comic Sans for the UI?
 
Best to appear consistent with the site we're on, unless the intent is to really be different. By using classes that are already in the common SE set, it should be possible to mimic every site.
 
(that was a joke)
 
@gunr2171 Really? I thought you'd been listening in on the meeting I had this morning with our new marketing "guru"...
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad too a degree, right now the cv-pls link doesn't stays the same on any site you're on, but that's because of unnecessary specificity on StackExchanges side.
 
user4639281
Ok, check the bloody version again.
 
user4639281
7:22 PM
I think updates should be at the bottom of the list, what say you
 
@TinyGiant Least used, so yeah. There aren't many menus on SO to compare to - but "help" seems to start with most common and go down to least, so we'd be consistent with that.
 
user4639281
Sounds good
 
So, on the topic of config use cases... why is "user / time" optional?
 
I can understand if you want a quick link to the user's profile (like if you are <10k and the post is deleted). Not sure about the time
but we might want to choose if optional or not
 
user4639281
7:28 PM
Well, durron doesn't like the stamp, so that's why the option is there.
 
user4639281
But, if durron is OK with just using the timestamp anyway, then we can remove it.
 
@gunr2171 Uh, oh, time to rework my blog theme... I've thankfully had very few worries with fonts, since my concerns have been around usability and work flow, and largely with physical objects (phones, face-plate UI).
 
there is also the issue if you post a new question, and it says "6 minutes ago"
which doesn't help you down the line
 
@gunr2171 True - seen that, hadn't thought about it deeply enough.
 
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@gunr2171 You mean after posting a request, the time doesn't change so hours later it wouldn't make sense?
 
7:32 PM
true, it's static text
 
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I just like it because its easy to see if it is a really old question, or a new one that could use votes quicker
 
If the objective is to have a rich transcript in a room, then we'd want to see the actual time, not relative.
 
^ agree
 
user4639281
I can do that as well.
 
Do which? (just to be clear)
 
user4639281
7:34 PM
Just have the absolute timestamp
 
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instead of relative
 
Sounds good.
Now...
Is there other context info that's valuable? Tags? Answers? Votes? Views?
At some point, it could get crazy...
 
user4639281
I was thinking about score...
 
it shouldn't be any more informative than what is shown in the CV queue
 
user4639281
you could do like s:-1 v:300 a:1
 
7:37 PM
The CV queue shows all that - which is why I've brought it up.
Maybe over-kill for this action, though?
 
oh, and keep in mind about the HQ chat room, the bot might not pick up messages if we keep adding to it
 
user4639281
Yeah, I think so
 
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@gunr2171 Was just about to say that
 
user4639281
New version up, fixed the first load issue, and the https issue.
 
user4639281
It looks like durron has been using the timestamp anyway, so should we just remove the option?
 
7:40 PM
@TinyGiant Bingo!
Simple is better.
 
user4639281
I think so too
 
Sorry for making you through out work.
 
user4639281
Oh, no. That's fine
 
Instead of deleting lines of code, you could just paste them as answers to LQ questions...
 
user4639281
Lol
 
user4639281
7:45 PM
test Netscape set innerText - Richard Grant 2015-08-19 18:36:32Z
 
user4639281
^^^ How's that?
 
user4639281
hmmmm... latest update isn't saving the whole room list
 
7:49 PM
@TinyGiant Good.
With the latest, I've validated the first-load behavior in FF by clearing localStorage. All good.
 
user4639281
Cool
 
test [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/1677912) - Mark Rajcok Feb 21 '13 at 4:09
 
should you be able to cv-pls an already closed post? (answer:no)
hum, but you should still show the button and menu because the person will wonder when the settings menu went
 
@gunr2171 Why would you do that? In case you accidentally send it to the real room.
 
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@gunr2171 In the future, the script might not be limited to cv-pls requests.
 
7:53 PM
^^^ that
 
true
 
Hmm. Should it be something other than "cv-pls" then?
"vote-req"
.... When the day finally comes
 
yeah, don't change the name until the function changes
 
user4639281
That's what I was thinking, or something closer to the other menu options.
 
but at your pace that will be tomorrow. Or tonight.
 
user4639281
7:55 PM
@Mogsdad Lol
 
user4639281
The room list was a lot of thinking
 
user4639281
Still not perfect yet.
 
How many rooms do you expect it to be used in?
(Is it worth complicating the UI for?)
 
user4639281
I think so.
 
user4639281
Even just for switching back and forth between this room and the main room it is very useful
 
7:59 PM
@TinyGiant That's us, not everyone.
 
user4639281
Yeah, then durron has programmers cv pls and the main room. Other users may use language rooms specifically
 
That's the type of use case that justifies it.
Otherwise, Could be enabled via localstorage or script edit.
So, it stays.
 
user4639281
K
 
My last test was still not formatted... that's under construction, yes?
 
user4639281
Yeah. Once I get this last part working correctly, that will be the next thing
 
8:03 PM
Ok. I've got to start the commute, will be live again later.
 
user4639281
K, ttys
 
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test [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/4639281) - Mark Rajcok 2013-02-21 04:09:56
 
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test [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/4639281) - Mark Rajcok 2013-02-21 04:09:56
 
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test [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/4639281) - Mark Rajcok 2013-02-21 04:09:56
 
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test [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/4639281) - Mark Rajcok 2013-02-21 04:09:56
 
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10:40 PM
test [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? ](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/4639281) - Mark Rajcok 2013-02-21 04:09:56
 
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test [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed])](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/4639281) - Mark Rajcok 2013-02-21 04:09:56
 
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10:45 PM
test [“Thinking in AngularJS” if I have a jQuery background? [closed]](stackoverflow.com/q/14994391/4639281) - Mark Rajcok 2013-02-21 04:09:56
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad. @gunr2171 New version is in the bloody branch, all currently open issues should be fixed.
 
and... that's a miss
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown What's a miss?
 
user4639281
What's happening?
 
damn, can't repeat the issue
The room was unselected at one point and the request failed, but the UI thought it worked
 
user4639281
?.... odd....
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown Have a good time, I'll try to reproduce the issue
 
user4639281
11:07 PM
 
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user4639281
@KevinBrown was able to reproduce the title not resetting, but haven't yet been able to reproduce the request not sending. I'll keep trying, if it happens again let me know.
 

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