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6:48 AM
Incredible. Writing shaders in Rust is now a thing using rust-gpu.
 
7:48 AM
@Shep you might know something (tweet)
 
 
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11:13 AM
Meh indeed. I'm certain they made quite a bit of money on BC first and now they play the role of the seriously concerned environmentalist. They of course don't care about mining rare earth metals for their batteries, do they? :sob:
I hate the idiotism / stupidity, and hypocricy Musk and his companies represent. But we have a tendency to celebrate these bastards and their creations, so that won't change any time soon..
 
@PeterVaro I have a good source but in french lereveilleur.com/voiture-electrique-un-probleme-de-batterie it's not so bad contrary to my first through but yeah I still think battery is the main problem of electric car what we really need is less car
@PeterVaro I don't care of him I just want to see crypto burn
 
You mean, you want to see the entire idea disappear, or the current implementations only?
 
@PeterVaro Just implementation, anyway you can't delete an idea :p
 
@Stargateur I 100% agree on that! I'm not against e-mobility, on the contrary, but today's technology is not there yet. Does that mean we shouldn't switch to it? Absolutely not! We should do it as quickly as we can, because there are already breathing and lung problems in the biggest cities where we live. But I agree: one critical problem is indeed the number of cars per person and/or per families.
..and that is followed by the technology we use for batteries.
@Stargateur What I meant was: are you against the financial revolution the idea represents for X and Y reasons, or just the current implementations.
 
nature is not great for storing electricity I don't think we can expect any big technology miracle
 
11:22 AM
I've never said you could kill and idea, but an idea could die on its own :)
 
@Stargateur There are electric bicycles all over here now, which I have much less of a problem with. One downside is that older people tend to get into more accidents. They supposedly can't handle the speed.
 
@PeterVaro the purpose of money is to be a tool to share production, the purpose is it's most be simple, quick, easy, etc. That why we stop bartering. blockchain is literally the contrary, it's annoying to use, slow, not practical, not energy efficient (by 10^a lot compare to visa) the only advantage is that it's decentralized. When you look at all that, nowhere any blockchain relative tech is suitable for a money. You add that nobody can control the money... this mean we can't make any political
choice about it, we can't choice to add flat amount of money, we can't choice to give flat amount of money to people. Also when one transaction cost 130$ (actually) this mean you literally can't use it for any normal transaction... useless
 
I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about a currency that is free from political and regular financial influences. That was the original promise I got into when BC and rest appeared. Not the technology itself, I couldn't care less about the implementation details.
What you say what money is good for is at a theoretical level. But the current implementation of "money" is broken.
 
@PeterVaro I do not agree
 
And that's a problem which needs to be fixed. Not by removing "money" and getting back to bartering and other things, but by introducing a better "money"
 
11:30 AM
there is no silver bullet
 
Well, there's an easy way to fix that: remove the artificial factors from the equation
Like inflation.
 
as I said "we can't choice to add flat amount of money, we can't choice to give flat amount of money to people" the no ability to control money is also a big problem
you want to be able to control it
again money is a tool
 
I lost you there..
 
@PeterVaro inflation is good for example. too many people think it's bad
 
I know for a fact that it is bad.
:D
 
11:33 AM
well it's not
 
But it is.
XD
 
for example € central bank want to have a 2% annually inflation but currently we are under and there are not happy about it.
@PeterVaro well I advice you to learn about economic :p there is a lot to learn, inflation is not "bad"
 
@Stargateur I did, that's why I'm saying it is bad.
 
without inflation for example, rich will be richer even faster, and poor, poorer even faster.
@PeterVaro you are very wrong so
 
@Stargateur Which is exactly what's happening with inflation anyway. Inflation has no direct effect on that, you should've known that I believe.
@Stargateur Sure, I should've known not to get into an argument with Mr Never-Wrong Know-It-All :)
 
11:36 AM
I didn't know some economies intended on using a digital currency until a while ago, but these are not decentralized, which was one of the few aspects I liked about it.
 
@PeterVaro well, I know a lot about economics that all. inflation being view as "bad" as default is one of the main bias that people have
you can clearly see that it's not just 'bad" it have effect and people need to understand what that mean
 
@Stargateur I'm not "people" and I have no bias. I'm just using that bubble on the top of my neck. Inflation solves no real purpose, other than widening the gap between the countries (their economics) and their trading partners. Making things harder, uneven, unjust, and ad-hoc. Moreover, as with almost everything that is finance related: maintaining the financial sector for its own purpose.
It wasn't always like this. But it became like this after the world wars.
 
you mix a lot of thing here
 
What is this, fearless economy?
 
@Stargateur unsafe {}
 
Very unsafe
 
 
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1:16 PM
Mandatory "don't ask questions until you've read the book".
 
at least the first chapters...
 
This accepted answer...
https://stackoverflow.com/a/67519831/263525
Deriving debug in order to compare strings... to implement PartialEq ^^
 
1:34 PM
@DenysSéguret this hurt
dbg!(Fruits::Apple == Fruits::Orange); // SPACE
maybe not that much
 
2:15 PM
fixed
 
 
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4:09 PM
\o
I have now entered the nice world of actually trying to "deploy" my executables instead of just cargo run them. so far it is quite the failure, I don't even know where the logs go, if there's such a thing :P
 
4:47 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier what's specifically failing?
 
after running the app through something called "dr Memory" I installed a few months ago, probably to study memory usage if I can guess so wildly, I could see a stack trace going into a function that's not supposed to be invoked at runtime :)
basically my whole "I want to embed js bundle into executable" endeavour giving me other problems
@Jason ..but it was a rather simple fix, once identified, and it now works \o/
 
Ah, that adventure, haha
@FélixGagnon-Grenier what was the fix?
 
I was using fs::read_to_string to get the content of the files, which it appears happens at runtime, whereas using include_str! macro does it at compile time
However, it seems include_str needs platform dependant separators, so I think I'll need to use path::MAIN_SEPARATOR and create correct paths for the compiling platforms dynamically
anyway, how's it going @Jason?
 
5:05 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier would conditional compilation be an option in this case?
If it needs to be included at compile time?
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Great! I am playing around with shaders again. I haven't had this much fun programming in ages.
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I was following along with this tutorial on ray marching, which was done in glsl and translated it to Rust using rust-gpu.
 
@Jason oh nice! that is such a foreign domain to me!
@Jason yes probably. I have a possibly unfounded fear of using these, however. I feel like if I go down that way, there's no end to the amount of conditional and edge cases that can appear.
@Jason this is so cool!
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier To me as well, I'm not a game developer, but I find it incredible what these people are doing, so I'd love to have a better understanding of it.
 
 
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9:42 PM
@Stargateur ,
I read your posts from here. You are right about inflation.

But regarding the crypto, the costs and speed, there are some very good projects.

One of them is Elrond (that uses Rust for Smart Contracts) for which I created its own StackExchange proposal here https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/125583/elrond .

It is one of the most decentralized projects in the world, it's really fast, consumes little energy and any average personal computer can run a node.
 
 
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10:59 PM
preach
 
11:10 PM
@Elrond_EGLDer PoS also have problems and the site elrond.com literally ask me to buy these coin using "dollar" I have no word, please no pub here, specially about shitcoins.
I happy to talk about concept but not about "insert_here_coin is the best blockchain try it"
 
> We need a way for humans to exchange value without the need of approval from centralized banks
- Félix Gagnon-Grenier, 2021
 
> We don't - Me 2021
 
> yeah we do - FGG 2021
like, given a way to put some kind of rate on said value in a way that allows humans not to be exploited by other humans
then there is no need for any central bank to have anything to say about it
actually, that central bank can go f*** itself
as it has nothing whatsoever to do about said exchange of value, and it's really just sticking its nose where it doesn't belong
if anything, it's all the population that uses said "currency" that should be giving and deciding its value, not some central reference serving its own interests
 

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