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7:27 AM
Morning
 
8:18 AM
Good morning!
 
8:59 AM
hey guys, looking to learn rust as I've seen lots of stuff around it
I already know Ruby and Swift, do you think it's worth learning?
 
@Lemon Everyone here is a Rust enthusiast. No one here thinks you shouldn't learn Rust :)
@EnnMichael There are a lot of blockchain projects that raised big money in the last 3-4 years. They want speed and safety and can afford to pay for devs. That's about it.
@EnnMichael Oh, and a lot of the core libraries that they are building on are already written in Rust, so it's kind of an automatic choice for them.
 
9:14 AM
@E_net4_is_being_impersonated fair enough lol
 
 
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11:38 AM
@E_net4_is_being_impersonated Please change your display name now. :[
 
@E_net4thecurator I can change it again on December 25thh
How do you change it so frequently?
 
@E_net4_is_being_impersonated Like this
Other ways exist too.
 
11:56 AM
@E_net4thecurator Oh I see. It seems like a hack though. I am a very professional developer who only uses approved APIs, as intended.
 
@E_net4_is_being_impersonated You can also just ask a moderator, via a flag. It'd better be your own flag rather than mine.
 
 
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1:15 PM
@E_net4thecurator Oooh
 
 
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2:35 PM
Interesting. I had a serial downvote spree yesterday and it was reversed before I noticed it.
 
@E_net4thecurator I often don't notice downvotes for a while because they don't pop up in the notifications
Some user was removed that had given me 120 points
when they left, it took days for me to notice
 
@Shepmaster ffgrgrfgrm
 
3:05 PM
@E_net4thecurator Fhqwhgads?
 
@Shepmaster Did you remember that or it just showed up in search results?
 
@E_net4_is_being_impersonated I remember the video, but not that exact spelling. Google had my back there.
 
4:08 PM
@E_net4downvoteseverything look at you twisting the meaning of things
 
@Shepmaster Hey, it turned out to be incredibly helpful.
 
:indeed:
Did this question redeem itself?
It seems better and more concrete
 
@Shepmaster It was closed after it was edited...
 
@E_net4_is_being_impersonated it had 2 close votes before the edit, then finally closed by a not-well-known-rust-tag-participant
 
5:06 PM
posted on December 07, 2020 by The Rust Core Team

In August, we on the Core Team announced our plans to create a Foundation by the end of the year. Since that time, we’ve been doing a lot of work but it has been difficult to share many details, and we know that a lot of you have questions. The "Foundation Conversation" This blog post announces the start of the “Foundation Conversation”. This is a week-long period in which we have p

 
5:32 PM
@Shepmaster I like this! Doesn't Stackoverflow offer support for LaTeX equations as well nowadays? I haven't tried it yet, but recall someone mentioning it was now enabled for Stackoverflow as well.
 
6:27 PM
@Jason I had not noticed that. Last I heard, the LaTeX JS was heavy and they didn't want it everywhere.
 
6:37 PM
Trying to find the easiest way to trick people into founding a local economy startup with a Rust sytem so I can work on it.
 
@Shepmaster I must have misread! It indeed doesn't seem to be a thing. I assume it's only enabled for math.stackexchange and others that are heavy on math.
 
e.
@Shepmaster, Firstly I use a language, it does not use me, so how I set cases is up to me and my team, nott he language. Secondly, without knowing our overall architecture, making a statement on best practice is out of scope. Thirdly, just because others don''t see the world as you do does not make them wrong, stop down voting based on your narrow view of the world. Forth, stop editing others questions, if I wanted a grammar proffer I would hire one. I like my questions just the way they are, if the offend you so much, just don't read them! — art vanderlay 3 mins ago
 
@Shepmaster I voted to reopen, as it currently is it doesn't appear opinionated and I would imagine it has a definitive concrete answer.
 
Anyone else want to jump into the rollback war?
@kmdreko heh, I just did as well. I... forgot when I posted it in here
 
6:56 PM
"Firstly I use a language, it does not use me" is hilarious
 
Haha, ah, wow…
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I don't follow that maxim, but I get it for some people.
I like to adhere to the language I'm in
I'd rather work well with the people outside of my little bubble
My favorite part is
> if I wanted a grammar proffer
ah, maybe the best practices was referring to
to be read by a public function in another module — do you not care about common software engineering practices like encapsulation? — Shepmaster 37 mins ago
which is certainly slanted towards "you should care about this"
 
@Shepmaster It is taking me a while to even acclimate to the idea. I fail to understand what it means really. Like, they're talking about how, as a programmer, we can find workarounds to force languages to work like other things we know?
but even there, the language will always compile / be interpreted the same
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I think the specific ire is towards my (now deleted) comment:
> By the way, idiomatic Rust uses snake_case for variables, methods, macros, fields and modules; UpperCamelCase for types and enum variants; and SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE for statics and constants.
So they are like "No, I want to name my Rust variables withThisStyle"
 
@Shepmaster Wow. I mean, I feel like there is a stretch between following those guidelines and being used but vOv
@Shepmaster at least it's not written "grammer"
I've stopped reviewing edit suggestions when I had to reject edits that actually contained "corrected grammer" as their edit message.
 
7:08 PM
Now they are going to be mad
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Q: Rust: safest way to make a serde_json result globally available?

art vanderlayThis is not a duplicate question. If you think it is duplicate, post your answer as to why it is a duplicate and I will decide if you are correct. I have a function in a module that contains: let contents = fs::read_to_string(json_file_path).expect("file not found"); let myVar: Foo = match serde_...

 
oh nooooo haha
 
I will decide if you are correct
 
7:30 PM
not sure if I should link them to this image, do you think they'd appreciate the humour?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier probably not, though in all honesty I feel like I'm used by Javascript every day :(
 
@kmdreko Quit your job
 
@EnnMichael you hiring? 👀
 
Send CV at bz.ennm@gmail.com
But in all fairness, there's a lot of other people besides me who are hiring
Such as Kanye West, for example.
Or Google or whoever
 
7:38 PM
this escalated places
 
Jeff Bezos
 
8:12 PM
@mcarton you might want to consider beefing up your answer to handle multiple threads (since Cell isn't Send / Sync)
 
9:20 PM
Is it possible to write tests for a proc macro to assert if it produces warnings?
Or would I have to make warnings errors and then test that it fails to compile?
 
@PeterHall proc macros themselves can't create warnings
they could generate code that later produces a warning, if that's what you mean?
 
9:35 PM
@Shepmaster Yeah exactly.
 
@PeterHall Are you already using compiletest trybuild?
 
Actually, it's not quite that. I'm slightly modifying the input so that code that would cause warnings if emitted as-written, actually doesn't.
 
I'm pretty sure that trybuild will check for warnings
 
specifically, there are cases where extra parentheses makes it more readable, but there'd be warnings if they were emitted in the output
ok I'll try trybuild - I haven't been using it
 
I find it invaluable for SNAFU
where I emit various errors from the proc-macro
 
9:39 PM
Most of my proc macros for internal use, I haven't bothered testing on that level. Just checking that the output code runs as expected. But I want to publish this crate
@Shepmaster trybuild looks pretty good. The way it works is probably why I didn't spot it when browsing through other proc macro source
 
yeah, in SNAFU I have a number of tests that use the proc macro in different contexts
 
10:06 PM
Currently, the essence of my existence is reflected in the fact that I press "j" to move down
It is the meaning of my life, and with each "j" I scroll further down, fulfilling my ultimate destiny of reaching the bottom of the page
At this point, I will press gg, and start the cycle all over again
 

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