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6:44 AM
Morning!
 
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looks OK
 
[ EditMonitor ] Edit by anonymous user approved with 1 (or more) rejection vote(s): 1787759
 
no idea
 
7:29 AM
[ EditMonitor ] Edit by anonymous user approved with 1 (or more) rejection vote(s): 1787776
 
OP approved
 
 
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9:20 AM
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1787914
 
hmm...
oh well, that question should be closed anyway
 
9:43 AM
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1787970
 
looks ok, and had a later edit
 
 
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10:49 AM
gtg
!>stop
 
 
2 hours later…
Anonymous
12:21 PM
@Unihedro what should "ideally" mean ?
 
Anonymous
perhaps you hate editing your posts ?
 
I purposefully made it that bit worse just to keep it at a quality near jojodmo's answer.
 
Anonymous
[JBot] Rejected edit: remove redundant tags
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
so you want jojodmo's to be the best answer ?
 
Anonymous
12:36 PM
[JBot] Rejected edit: correcting indentention
 
@Joiner Yes, despite that it's a terrible solution with incorrect explanation.
You almost won those two points :p so close
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
@Unihedro i would return true because it was successful, wasn't it ?
 
Anonymous
@Unihedro then i would suggest to remove the java 7 part, making your answer based on the java 8 solution
 
@Joiner Again, I'd not like to make my answer higher quality than that of jojodmos'.
 
12:44 PM
EditMonitor started.
 
@Closey Imposter!
 
yup
i'm trying out running fox's bot while he's gone
still need to get an api key, my quota right now is at 250
 
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1788249
 
OP approved, still reading
@AndersonVieira That i have already edited. :-) but still need to review — Pratik 8 mins ago
and the post is deleted by OP...
 
Anonymous
@Unihedro that's against the site model, you know ?
 
12:56 PM
@Joiner No it's not.
 
Anonymous
[JBot] Rejected edit: codified the code
 
Anonymous
grr.. my bot still crashes, but not while debugging
 
You know, yesterday I should have proposed a well thought out meta post for burninating , with the lead argument being "drop that and use jquery instead".
 
@gunr2171 You should totally drop that idea and try it with jQuery.
 
you should totally drop the idea of having me use jQuery and use jQuery.
 
1:02 PM
.. wat
 
Anonymous
@ProgramFOX
 
i should drop the idea of telling you to drop the idea of having me drop jQuery, and use jQuery
(clearly you can see i'm bored at work)
oh wait, i messed that last one up...
eh, I'll abuse the English language later, time to attempt to do some work.
 
:p
 
Anonymous
[JBot] Rejected edit: formatting
 
@Joiner that's an audit (didn't know you could pick them up)
also, where are you getting "formatting" from?
 
1:08 PM
@gunr2171 These links are pointing to incorrect review tickets.
 
Anonymous
@gunr2171 it's buggy
 
"formatting" is the comment of a review ticket.
 
ah, ok
 
Anonymous
it seems the suggested_edit_id does not refer to the review link
 
Anonymous
so i'm wondering how i could address any edit returned by the api
 
1:10 PM
also, voting to close that question
as POB
 
Anonymous
found it
 
Anonymous
@Sam are you there ?
 
Sam
Yep
 
Anonymous
so, after few minutes my console application does crash
 
Anonymous
but that doesn't happen while debugging !
 
Sam
1:22 PM
@Joiner So it hangs if you launch the program with the debugger?
 
Anonymous
no stacktrace is printed, just a windows popup which asks to close the application
 
Anonymous
@Sam no, it's vice versa
 
Anonymous
while debugging, all's ok
 
Sam
Oh.
 
Anonymous
while not, that happens after few minutes
 
Sam
1:24 PM
Is the code open source?
And have you tried launching it again after it hangs?
 
Anonymous
yes
 
Anonymous
i have an idea:
 
Anonymous
first, i initialize the Room object
 
Anonymous
then i use it inside a new thread
 
Anonymous
BUT
 
Anonymous
1:28 PM
that happens after
 
Anonymous
so multithreading problems shouldn't occur
 
Anonymous
am i wrong ?
 
Sam
Before we continue, I assume you successfully created a Client object before anything else?
 
Anonymous
    Dim Utente As New Client("francescomenzani99@gmail.com", "")
    Chat = Utente.JoinRoom("http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/5/the-so-tavern-free-snacks")
 
Anonymous
no exception is thrown
 
Sam
1:31 PM
Ugh, VB.Net :/
Ok, well.
 
Anonymous
@Sam it wasn't a "finally, i found the problem"
 
Sam
Is the new Room object created in the thread?
Or, created in the main (STA) thread and then passed?
 
Anonymous
second
 
Sam
Hmm, is the Room object passed to any other threads?
 
Anonymous
no
 
Sam
1:37 PM
If so, that may cause issues.
Ok...
 
Anonymous
want full code ?
 
Sam
Yes, that would be helpful.
 
Anonymous
default namespace is JBot
 
Anonymous
 
Sam
Thanks, I'll take a look...
 
Anonymous
1:52 PM
thank you
 
Anonymous
if you think some explanation would help you understanding that code, feel free to ask
 
Sam
Sure, ok.
@Joiner I can't see anything immediately obvious. Can you launch the program, then when it hangs, can you manually attach the debugger and take a look at the call stack?
 
Anonymous
2:08 PM
how do i "attach the debugger" ?
 
Sam
I assume you're using VS?
 
Anonymous
no, VB
 
Anonymous
maybe i could fill the code with try-catch blocks
 
Sam
I mean, are you using the IDE called Visual Studio?
 
Anonymous
no, visual basic
 
Sam
2:10 PM
Visual basic is the language you're coding in.
What is the name of the software you're using to compile and debug your program?
 
Anonymous
 
Sam
Oh.
 
Anonymous
oh ?
 
Sam
Right, I see what's happened here. You've basically installed the VS components for VB.Net. Rather than having the entire VS installation.
So everything should be pretty similar.
 
Anonymous
it's called visual basic 2010 express
 
Sam
2:15 PM
Have a look at this.
(In other news, I've finally got round to writing up some docs for Wav.Net. And may need @Uni to quickly proofread it when I'm done (if that's ok).)
 
:D
~potentialProductivity+=0.1;
 
Sam
:D
 
2:56 PM
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because, presently, it is about the configuration of pre-built software. It is not a programming question because there is no indication of the OP doing any programming of the indicated software. — gunr2171 9 secs ago
 
@Joiner Yes?
Also, why detecting rejected edit? They are... yes, rejected, so no action needed.
!>apiquota
 
@ProgramFOX 195
 
@gunr2171 You can shut down your clone for 1-1.5 hours, to save API quota.
then I'll start up mine
 
!>stop
well, i did start today with an api quota of 247
still need to get that api key
 
EditMonitor started.
 
Anonymous
3:01 PM
i was confused because suggested_edit_id isn't the /review/<id> [solved]
 
collision edit, that's fine
 
Anonymous
what does [solved] do in the room ?
 
nothing
why?
 
Anonymous
because i see a loading icon when posting the message
 
3:04 PM
oh, yeah, there are some things between braces that actually do something like [so] and chat looks whether it has to do something with [solved]
for example, [so] -> Stack Overflow
 
Anonymous
 
that was [meta]
 
Anonymous
[mso]
 
[meta]
 
3:05 PM
^ that's [communitybuilding.se]
 
(ah, ignore my duplicate messages)
 
Sam
@Uni Ok, the (partial) wiki is ready for review. So far I've only covered 2 topics, but at least it's a start :/
Feel free to let me know what your thoughts are of the style/formatting.
(Better change anything now before I write up the entire wiki.)
 
@Sam not enough comments :)
 
Sam
lol :D
 
comment/code ratio should be 10/1
 
Sam
3:12 PM
I'm sure that's enough to make any API creator cry o_o
 
very true
 
@gunr2171 please don't
littering comments from the sky makes them go obsolete quickly
by having many comments, you lose efficiency updating them all, and eventually you stop doing it entirely
 
13
Q: When are comments "too much", and when are they not enough?

Joel EthertonThere is an on-going minor debate where I work about the efficacy of comments within code. One of the leads instructed his developers not to use comments as they are too "old fashioned", and a couple of other developers indicated that they never use comments because they feel all they do is clutt...

 
there are many OSS with horribly wrong and misleading comments that reside.
 
Sam
True :|
 
3:13 PM
That's from 2010.
Good documentation: Sure.
Good comment to code ratio: Having a value here is actually damaging.
 
oh wow, 2010 was 5 years ago. I'm old
 
In fact, when you modularize everything you won't even need to see a comment to know what it does.
 
oh, and for the record, i'm joking about the whole ratio thing
 
:p
K
 
Sam
So, changing the comments into actual paragraphs above the code sample would be better? (Tbh, it sounds better.)
 
3:15 PM
Can I generate Lucid Dream waves with Wav.Net?
 
Anonymous
i agree, but also have never used comments
 
@Joiner woot, never seen that entry before, but most of what it says are just common sense really
 
Sam
@Unihedro Lucid Dream waves?
 
I found this, but instantly discredit it because it's for PHP.
 
3:16 PM
'*************************************************
' Name: CopyString
'
' Purpose: This routine copies a string from the source
' string (source) to the target string (target).
'
' Algorithm: It gets the length of "source" and then copies each
' character, one at a time, into "target". It uses
' the loop index as an array index into both "source"
' and "target" and increments the loop/array index
' after each character is copied.
'
' Inputs: input The string to be copied
'
' Outputs: output The string to receive the copy of "input"
Toilet paper roll documentation...
 
Sam
Oh, you mean Binaural beats?
 
Anonymous
@Sam with try-catch blocks, nothing happens (neither stacktrace or crash) :/
 
LD is a light binaural beat variant
 
Sam
@Joiner Comment-out those evil try-catch statements and try again.
@Unihedro Oh I see, well in that case, I'd imagine so.
 
you can also check if there are hidden exceptions. Hit Ctrl + Alt + E, choose "thrown" under "Common language runtime exceptions"
then leave it on, forever
never turn it off
 
Anonymous
3:21 PM
@gunr2171 what ?
 
ever
 
you're using Visual Studio, right?
 
Anonymous
no
 
oh, never mind then
 
Sam
@Unihedro In fact, you could create an entire file with such frequencies in <10 LoC.
 
3:23 PM
wait, VB.net and not Visual Studio?
what are you using, mono?
 
1 hour ago, by Joiner
user image
 
Anonymous
i'm using visual basic 2010 express
 
That logo is Visual VB.NET, which is kinda sorta the same as Visual Studio.
 
@Sam :O
 
oh, I thought it was the same thing (shell-wise), just stripped down so it only supports one language
 
Sam
3:24 PM
@gunr2171 Same.
@Unihedro Yeah, I've included a tone generator as standard so it's quite easy xD
 
@gunr2171 yes, it is
 
Anonymous
@Sam never said, it crashed again, even with try-catch blocks :/
 
so, you should still be able to get to the Exceptions properties windows in that version
 
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/stack-egg <-- There are more questions about StackEgg on @TheArqade than about Goat Simulator.
 
Sam
lol
 
3:26 PM
14 vs 13
 
Sam
@Joiner But I asked if you could comment-out the try-catch statements though.
 
11
A: How can we get more moderator flags?

GodEmperorDuneIn my experience, you get one flag when starting public beta and another flag after graduating. I do not know of any way to get more than those two flags.

 
well yeah, because bugs need to be fixed in StackEgg, and shown off in Goat Simulator
 
I could had earned those points from posting answers like that if I weren't so caught up in the game itself. :p
 
Anonymous
@Sam those there weren't before, which is like they were comments
 
Anonymous
3:28 PM
unsure if i well-explained
 
Sam
So they weren't there before, and you've just added them?
@Uni Quickly getting back to the wiki for a few secs; so you're suggesting to group all the comments into a paragraph above the code sample instead?
 
@Sam Erm...
 
@Sam i'm good with it as-is
 
It would be more readable if each of those code samples were broken into code and narrative descriptions instead of being comments.
At least, in my opinion.
So [text] [line of code] [text].
 
Sam
Gotchya.
That would also allow the use of markdown.
 
Anonymous
3:34 PM
yes sam
 
Anonymous
 
Sam
Hmm.
Have you changed anything recently?
 
@Joiner You can always start the debugger to see what happens.
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX It works fine with the debugger.
But not without.
 
huh
 
Anonymous
3:36 PM
that's the problem :/
 
you're not running "Release" code?
 
Anonymous
yes, i am
 
Sam
...
 
and you've used the debugger with the Release configuration it has no problems?
 
[ EditMonitor ] Edit by anonymous user approved with 1 (or more) rejection vote(s): 1788496
 
Anonymous
3:37 PM
@gunr2171 what ?
 
Anonymous
what's the release configuration ?
 
you should have something similar
 
guys, I just had a weird idea
 
sits on edge of seat
 
3:39 PM
But what if
 
Anonymous
i've picked it from the bin/Release folder after clicking Debug >> Compile
 
Sam
waits in suspense
 
We compiled every programming language element together
And then build a language-agnostic parser that runs any script in significant context?
 
Sam
@Unihedro Hmm. Literally every element, or only "good" elements?
 
literally every, but the parser could determine the most beneficial operation for the context
 
Sam
3:42 PM
Oic
Sounds interesting.
 
For example, Perl has integer literals that defines stdio streams
2&>1
And then there are the famous JSON Objects, and declared typing
and prototype-defined mocking
In the end, all of those are really just abstraction and syntactic sugar for the elements that makes them possible :p
 
Sam
So how would all of it actually "run"?
 
I have no idea.
 
Sam
xD
 
A device of such complexity is beyond measure.
 
Sam
3:47 PM
Not for Jon Skeet.
 
Sam
Cool.
 
Sam
4:08 PM
^ SPAMMER
 
message gone, user suspended
 
Sam
\o/
 
5 hours suspension...
 
only?
It wasn't his first time, you know. xD
 
looks like it went up to 6:30 hrs
@Unihedro Not? Well I remember someone spamming lots of rooms with something, not sure if it's the same here.
 
Sam
4:14 PM
Looks like we've flagged it all.
 
It's the second time I've seen this particular user spamming. Previously I've also caught five users serial spamming in chat rooms.
 
Sam
Perhaps you should raise a mod flag?
 
too lazy
 
/me is sad he missed the initial link
 
I mean, trying too hard not to procrastinate
 
Sam
4:16 PM
lol
 
NOOO
why am i still here
/gives up
 
Sam
How about that game of chess?
 
I have to go within 2 mins, so I have no time. Tomorrow I have ;)
 
aww
I haz holidays starting from tomorrow
 
I haz holidays starting from yesterday :D
 
4:19 PM
I haz no holiday until May :(
 
Sam
I haz no holiday until June.
 
gtg now, cya!
!>stop
 
Sam
Cya!
 
@gunr2171 ;)
oh, you might need to pull for the new anonymous user edit thingy
 
I haz no holiday until I wake up
 
4:21 PM
ok, doing that @ProgramFOX
 
EditMonitor started.
 
I really need to remember to start that bot in a screen...
 
^ voting too broad
 
way too broad
Haven't seen a "How to write .NET apps without a dependency on .NET" lately
been pretty nice, of course, now one will show up in a few hours
 
5:12 PM
@Unihedro close!
 
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1788576
 
yeah, that should have been rejected
that whole post is crap
 
5:44 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1788611
 
uh, hum... The person who Edit and Approved added more info that what the suggested edit author added
also, the more I see of objective C, the more I want to stay away from it
oh, it was added by the comments
 
6:12 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1788652
 
> This edit attempts to make the question better when really the question should be flagged as off-topic.
it's not bad but the edit summary is totally wrong.
 
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1788655
 
6:30 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1788666
 
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[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1788697
 
6:53 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Edit by anonymous user approved with 1 (or more) rejection vote(s): 1788684
 
@Closey seems fine enough
 
 
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8:22 PM
[ EditMonitor ] Approved with 2 rejection votes: 1788777
 
^ based on comment inclined to agree with edit
 
8:55 PM
!>stop
 

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