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2:30 AM
@GrahamChiu Hey Graham, I'd like to thank you for all your hard work around here and send you a gift.. something everyone can use.. a pack of charging cables. Just let me know where to send them... here's a pic

https://shop.hak5.org/products/o-mg-cable
 
@Atomica You should send it to Dockimbel .. it's for the Red team!
 
 
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9:00 AM
http://metaeducation.s3.amazonaws.com/travis-builds/0.4.40/r3 says incompatible with 64 bit windows
oops, that's linux
 
 
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3:28 PM
@Atomica This sort of stuff is getting so pervasive it's hard to really call people paranoid anymore. They're probably right.
I pushed my CR stuff, it's going to mess with Windows users. I want us to try this before going any further into prescriptivism (e.g. tab characters and other invisibles, files that are missing newline at the tail...)
 
3:52 PM
This is definitely an experiment; and it bends earl's quote which was something to the tune of "be permissive about what you accept, and precise about what you generate". I'm adding a bit of a twist on the definition of "accept" by saying we should have a split of how you do it... making permissiveness easy, but explicit.
 
4:06 PM
I'm #ifdef'ing out the 128-bit code in the elliptic curve code, too many warnings about the __int128; it was messing up OpenBSD etc. That's outside the standard and is just to speed it up where available, but it's not necessary.
We do not long term want to have every encryption method we link in reimplementing its own copy of BigNum arithmetic.
(the __int128 is just so it does its calculations in "larger bases", e.g. if your atomic arithmetic operations in a human head can only do base-10 math in one step, you do multiplication etc. differently...but if you could multiply numbers up to 2^128 together in one step, you would use something larger than base 10)
 
 
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6:29 PM
Parse is hard.
 
 
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7:40 PM
@GrahamChiu successfully logged in, I think
 
let me check
actually if you're logged in you can do this
whois o
and that will show your name
Yes, you're registered
Now to see if you can post, and read messages
speak o "Some text" ; where o/room = 1
speak/replyto o "More text" 14 ; where 14 is a messageno you're replying to
and to read messages - read-chat o n
 
Done, great!
 
to fix your icon
add-icon o image-url
it's currently using a gravatar generic image
Interestingly if you register a Gravatar account, the link will give your image as it's a md5 checksum of your email address
so once I calculated @HostileForksaysdonttrustSE's gravatar hash, his image appeared
@Edoc feel compelled to try registering yet?
If I implement private messaging, the client will request the other person's public key, you encrypt your message automatically, and then post your PM to the server where it is stored as an encrypted message in the person's inbox
it won't be real time chat
If anyone knows of a working html colouriser for Rebol syntax then I can implement code blocks
Oh, and read-chat returns messages date stamped in local time I hope
 
8:07 PM
@GrahamChiu I've been out of the loop for about a week. I'll try anything once. :) What do I need to do?
 
@Edoc from a recent build
do <chat>
 
ah, I'll give it a whirl
 
and see if you can garner enough information from what appears
If there are any pain points that I can fix, I'll try
I'm hoping that @iArnold can build a little GUI just for driving the chat
@Edoc BTW, most people have had to try more than once to get registered!
 
yeah, I'm checking on some of the hurdles I need to clear
I didn't have a gitlab account, no profile page, pgp key, etc.
 
@Edoc Github?
Yes, you need to install GPG
 
8:21 PM
@GrahamChiu that could become an extension like the view I currently have adapted.
 
@iArnold so how far have you got?
can you bring up some boxes to type into?
 
I have github, was just going off of the examples in order to follow the simplest path
 
@Edoc several people are using gists
 
I'm unfamiliar with that
 
@Edoc A gist is like a temporary file
like pastebin
 
8:24 PM
Hm. Might be a quiet chat room for a while :)
 
I can move the window on a button click and change a label on entering fron an input field. So the basic ingredients are present.
 
@Edoc go to gist.github.com
and click on "+" to create a new gist
 
The full keygen etc. should be done from within Rebol, but I suppose Graham feels like making people suffer through gpg for starters. We have Diffie-Hellman key stuff, but I don't know if it's actually compatible with what PGP is doing. I guess we should figure that out.
 
@Edoc once you've created the gist, you need the raw link which you submit
 
Presumably it is the same thing, because it works with HTTPS. I don't know though if it's one of these issues of bitsize though and PGP works with something else. Will look at it.
 
8:26 PM
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE I think we need people to understand public certificates
It's not just a self flagellation exercise
 
Sorry to disappoint, I have no idea what I'm looking at with the gist.github.com page.
 
GPG is also implemented in Javascript so we hopefully can call that for the wasm client
 
If you can draw how you imagine the basic chat then I can give it a go from there.
 
@Edoc top right is a + sign if you're logged in
 
yes, I'm logged in :)
 
8:27 PM
@GrahamChiu ^
 
then create a file with all the details, doesn't have to be public. Can be secret if you like
once it's created, feed the registration with the raw link
@iArnold A box to see messages, or we can print to console
A box to type messages into
And a few buttons we can assign functions to
@Edoc so this a gist of mine https://gist.github.com/gchiu/c6ba6b7cb3b68aa778067152f5c55358
it's throwaway code that doesn't need to go into a repository
 
Ok, I understand what you're saying.
i need to hande the public key stuff
 
@Edoc on windows?
 
yes
 
Adrian installed on Windows
so just need to make sure gpg is in the path
windows currently adds ^M to everything :(
but I try to strip that all out
type register chat-server 'Ed ed@whereever.com
and it won't find gpg, but offers a link to download a version
 
8:43 PM
Ok, I will have to come back to this when I have time to sort it out. I think I'm on the right trail, just juggling other things at the moment.
 
In some ways this is a re-imagining of the Alt Altme project
working towards something like we had with Altme
but open source and not siloed like Altme was
 
When I resize the window it moves as well. GTK is strange.
 
can you evaluate code after hitting <enter> in a text box?
label field [code block]
 

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