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6:26 AM
Just FYI, I installed Bluestacks 4. I then installed AVG antivirus and download the rebolserver.apk and it also didn't like it.
I installed it anyway in Bluestacks and it seems fine.
But even though I set the two flags in chrome, the rebol in browser doesn't come up.
So, I guess the Bluestacks emulation isn't quite right??
 
6:39 AM
@GrahamChiu try to clear the cache
 
@giuliolunati cool. that worked
So, now I have rebol in browser working on Chrome in Android emulation
How do I bring up developer tools?
 
6:54 AM
@GrahamChiu ?
 
@giuliolunati on PC control, shift-I but on Android?
There's no developer menu in Android in Chrome
 
@GrahamChiu nope
 
So?
 
What's your need?
 
7:18 AM
@giuliolunati watch javascript console in android
disable network caching
 
7:48 AM
@GrahamChiu You can't do that in Android, I'm afraid
 
8:08 AM
@giuliolunati ok, I'll stop trying!
 
 
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11:19 AM
@giuliolunati A Rebol webserver driving a Rebol web page...neat! I wonder what kind of APIs to access android features (camera, etc?) there are you can get at with the browser?
@giuliolunati Or...is there some way we could "eval()" a string of Java on the server? (Yes, I know it's compiled...but I mean, some substitute for this) It could be an extension you include in the native build that runs along with serving the page.
 
@HostileFork none at the moment :-(
But, as you said, we shouldn't lose the focus.
 
@giuliolunati No, but it would still be cool. :-) It looks like we could if we wanted to build an extension that used "JNI". There are some C++ APIs
So how you have it set up, that extension would be put into the Android build, then you would have some way in the web page of making a request of the server and it would do the functionality.
 
@HostileFork or, I might try to embed an SL4A server...
 
It might be neat, just to have one java-camera extension, so you could take a picture from the Rebol console and show it.
@giuliolunati It seemed like that wasn't being maintained anymore...
 
@HostileFork no, but the code is there...
Too bad don't exists an Emscripten-for-java... think having Ren-C running in Java platforms... 8-)
 
11:39 AM
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Q: Running/Interpreting C on top of the JVM?

amitkazIs there a way to run plain c code on top of the JVM? Not connect via JNI, running, like you can run ruby code via JRuby, or javascript via Rhino. If there is no current solution, what would you recommend I should do? Obviously I want to use as many partials solutions as I can to make it happen....

 
@HostileFork Worth of some thoughts !
 
@giuliolunati You're right that I said we need to focus :-) but it's very cool to see that we have a real Android app built on the browser people already have. Seems we would be close to building mobile apps if we felt like it!
 
11:58 AM
Hey @johnk ... want to chime in with any thoughts about goals/directions? What might tempt you to get back in the game? It seems interesting stuff is afoot, we just need more...ahands. :-)
 
 
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1:56 PM
Interesting. That accepted answer was by Joel Neely, an early and prominent rebol user who worked for a FedEx I think.
 
Name is familiar.
 
2:09 PM
@H.N Ah yes, b64138ef6b8b8ad1741ca609ec2d7c4b. Since you are apparently an unusual sort who knows what baud means, if you're interested in Rebol, let us know.
 
2:46 PM
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Q: Why does Red have 5 different types of functions?

nickkoroIn Red, there are functions of datatypes function!, op!, native!, routine! and action!. What are the differences between them? As far as I know function! is used for user-defined functions and op! for infix operators, and routine! for functions defined in Red/System, but why is there a need for t...

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A: Why does Red have 5 different types of functions?

LeeRed is based on Rebol an so has the same types. function! is an user defined function defined in red native! is an function in machinecode op! is an infix operator written in machinecode action! is an polymorphic function in machinecode routine! is an function in imported from dynamic library

 
3:16 PM
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A: Why does Red have 5 different types of functions?

HostileForkWhile to a caller it may seem similar to run a function whose body is a BLOCK! of code to one which is implemented as native instructions...the implementation has to go down a different branch. While I don't know precisely what Red does in the compilation case, the intepreter case for Rebol2 and...

 
3:57 PM
That reminds me to ask what the status of user types is at present. We do have more slots now?
 
@GrahamChiu There is non-zero progress on mechanics, of getting beyond the 64 types. But TYPESET! and in general the "type system" needs a lot of thinking.
I wouldn't make any grand claims, but the reason we have @..., @.../... @(...), and @[...] is because some advances were made
 
4:21 PM
Properly configure default heap limits
This update will configure the JavaScript heap size based on available memory instead of using defaults that were set by V8 for use with browsers. In previous releases, unless configured, V8 defaulted to limiting the max heap size to 700 MB or 1400MB on 32 and 64-bit platforms respectively. Configuring the heap size based on available memory ensures that Node.js does not try to use more memory than is available and terminating when its memory is exhausted.
I was just thinking about user types as a way of validating user input in web forms
Eg decimal ranges, phone numbers etc
 
5:16 PM
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A: Why does Red have 5 different types of functions?

9214function! As you've guessed yourself, function!s are user-defined functions that support refinements and typechecking, and can also contain embedded docstrings. Typically, function! values are created with func, function, does and has constructors, and utilize so-called spec dialect; but, in th...

 
5:28 PM
@HostileFork Happy Birthday (belated) Brian!
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7:51 PM
I can keep doing JS validation of my forms but I'd like to move to rebol based validation at some stage so that I don't have to rely on a 3rd party JS library
 
 
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11:57 PM
Dumb Rebol question: aren't AT and SKIP the exact same function, and thus space could be saved by making one point to the other?
Oddly enough, I actually came up with a reason for their separate existence while I was typing that.
But it was a dumb reason.
 

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