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2:23 AM
@rgchris I've replied in the forum.
 
posted on June 24, 2017 by @Brett

@Brett wrote: @rgchris asked the question in the rebol chat room "Has anyone written anything on building dialects with some evaluative behaviour?" Don't know of a document but it would be useful. Espeically on design considerations. Some possible evaluation strategies I've used: Obviously Parse, but it doesn't offer much more than recognising tok

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2:46 AM
@shadwolf ^-- as I dabble in graphic design, and note google reverse image search doesn't know an alternative origin for this, I'm curious if you drew it. It's interesting.
 
 
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6:09 AM
@HostileFork its rare now in day on internet but it s an original stuff from my brains. In fact it s the first drawing I made with the first publicaly available Inkscape version. It was intended to serve as representation of a shadwolf ... In my idea I would have signed my rebol graphical software with that logo ...
 
 
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7:20 AM
Motion detection with differential images #RedCV http://redlcv.blogspot.com/2017/05/redcv-motion-detection-with.html https://t.co/wC5L5ngFvb
 
7:38 AM
@shadwolf I see a letter S. And teeth. So you feel W is covered by the teeth, I think?
 
 
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8:41 AM
@rgchris Lest has evaluative behaviour. You can set variables and use them later.
 
9:01 AM
@shadwolf Two reasons, R3 was a mess and very feature incomplete and suffering changes that were not improvements and secondly it was still an interpreted language generally considered too slow and if it could be compiled a big gain in speed and a way to distribute your program without encapping or share your script.
 
9:24 AM
@iArnold You also forgot that unlike Rebol, which is written in C, Red is written in Red (dialect).
 
@shadwolf Either you are in the either camp. But if you are in the else camp there is nothing else in some cases. I prefer either too over if/else.
@rebolek Excellent point. Getting rid of gcc dependency.
 
 
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4:02 PM
@rebolek I thought of Lest (and indeed Henrik's older HTML dialect) as cases. Are you strictly using parse with fixed arguments for the evaluative portions? Is it sort of equivalent to my example above? What I'm looking for are the various methods for implementing this type of language...
On an unrelated note, is there any possibility of restoring ':' to issues? #foo:bar
If refinements can have them, why not issues?
>> /foo:bar
@RebolBot alive?
 
 
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5:20 PM
posted on June 24, 2017 by Mennohexo

Hi , i want to make a screen independent mainwindow. Don't know where the screensize variable is containt in. Here is the simple code. Rebol [title: 'Main Window' ] view  center-face  layout [size 700x750 ] size should be a percentage a the real screen where the rebol application is running on. Let us say width 50% and Height also 50%.

posted on June 24, 2017 by Mennohexo

Hi , i want to make a screen independent mainwindow. Don't know where the screensize variable is containt in. Here is the simple code. Rebol [title: 'Main Window' ] view  center-face  layout [size 700x750 ] size should be a percentage a the real screen where the rebol application is running on. Let us say width 50% and Height also 50%.

 
 
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6:49 PM
@rgchris Is it a good idea in general to have characters legal in one word class that are not legal in others? I agree that if refinements allow them, there's not a good reason to prohibit them in issues, but the question might be if refinements should not be able to have them.
 
@HostileFork This'd be one reason why issue should not have been transformed into a word type.
 
In Red:
>> type? second [#foo:bar]
== get-word!
 
FFS.
 
Well, I've been hoping to make the string/word distinction go away as much as I can
Such that if you bind a string to a context, it just becomes read-only and interned.
And you can only bind strings if they're at their head positions, or something of that nature. Otherwise they'd lose their positioning (the cell data for position in series would be overtaken by the binding)
And we know strings can have colons in them, so... going with this line of reasoning we might have to accept more permissive "natural" forms.
 
There's no uniformity in strings though—each string type has its own characteristics. Issues should be able to handle characters that are inherent in the data they're meant to represent (and I don't hold to the— 'we were mostly using issues for preprocessing directives so they should be words' —line).
 
 
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8:00 PM
@rgchris Well, this is why I want properties available to words to be available to strings... it would mean you could choose. Unbound issues, or unbound words could act as strings. You could bind either. But this requires some more thinking.
There's a sort of "budgeting" where people expect if you use the same word 100 times, those words are "cheap" because they don't repeat the spelling... and historically it's expected that 100 strings would be more expensive because they each need their own identity and copy of the data.
@rgchris Anyway the upshot is, I probably am leaning toward colons in issues being okay, just seems a philosophy needs articulating about it
 
@HostileFork For me, this remains the foundational case for the existence of issues. Sure the # prefix is a little contrived, but then we're ok with files being prefixed with %. It's entirely plausible that a colon be part of a serial or issue number in some domain.
Indeed, IPv6 numbers could be expressed as issues in this way.
 
8:16 PM
Quite. I know you're not a fan of tuples!
 
Not in their current form, no
 
#eee #abcdef ; colours
Kind of moving away from the idea of something being issued there though.
 
8:34 PM
Dusting the cobwebs off my legacy Twitter API code.
posted on June 24, 2017 by zzuum

[Reddit] I think it looks neat and would like to give it a try, but it seems like it's not nearly as far along development wise in Linux as in the other two oses.

 
@Feeds Hm. Didn't mean to run that test again :)
 
9:05 PM
Incidentally, RebolBot's icon looks a bit off in the new world of round Twitter avatars:
Personally don't like this change—the squares are more expressive.
 
9:22 PM
But I repeat myself.
 
@rgchris I do keep wondering why people do this. I fixed that for the forum, whoever controls the twitter profile can just use the graphic I posted for that
 
I don't have web access—would have to figure out how to do this from the API to update. Not today, I fear...
 
@GrahamChiu ^--
 
9:51 PM
I'm pretty sure I can't do that
 
@johnk ^--?
 

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