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2:59 AM
So there isn't a spec for Markdown. Just an original perl implementation that was ported into JavaScript, as a bunch of regular expressions. :-/
They didn't write it nicely; rather made it match up line by line with the perl so it would be easier to update it if the perl changed.
 
3:39 AM
@RebolBot
args: [foo 10x20]
probe (second args)/1
 
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>> args: [foo 10x20] probe (second args) /1
10x20
== /1
 
This keeps biting me. It needs to be a path if there's no space.
 
3:54 AM
While turning a process from recursive functions into a PARSE rule makes the match patterns clearer, you don't have the result stack handled for you...you have to take care of that yourself. :-/
 
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@CzarPino Greetings Czar, welcome. This is the room for talking about Rebol and Red, we're happy to introduce it to you...
@RebolBot
print [{I'm here to help too,} (reverse {oniPrazC@})]
 
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>> print ["I'm here to help too," (reverse "oniPrazC@")]
I'm here to help too, @CzarPino
 
Hi. Good to be here.
 
@CzarPino Did you get a chance to read the Red contributions page to get the gist of what it's about?
 
4:01 AM
@HostileFork No, not yet. I'm still orienting my self with Red. Just read the blog a minute ago.
 
Ah, well the Red and Rebol language are closely related. Rebol has all kinds of fun things in its design that you won't see done that way anywhere else. Red is taking those design ideas and making it possible to apply in broader areas...stuff you wouldn't want do in Rebol, like writing device drivers. Yet it still can do nearly everything Rebol can.
 
@HostileFork That sounds cool. I'll read around some more starting with the Red contributions page. Thanks for the warm welcome. :)
 
@CzarPino Sure ask any questions you like. You might find this article I wrote informative. Some people think Rebol in 10 steps is a good starting point.
Rebol is more mature, and Red is newer and recruiting developers and helping hands to advance it. You can download Rebol at http://rebolsource.net/, and do notice how amazingly small it is (and that's uncompressed...you can make it smaller with UPX or something like that if you really feel like it.) No installation dependencies! Red is continuing this.
 
4:32 AM
@rgchris The reason I wouldn't want the model loaded at "compile time" is because my odd (and possibly completely impractical) idea was that something like "comments/count" or whatever would be detected as not being statically resolvable, and hence be run dynamically. Otherwise, you might get a baked-in comment count from the time of compilation rather than it being fetched dynamically. I'm still pondering if the idea is any good or not.
 
4:50 AM
@CzarPino Any questions? :-)
I kind of feel like parse rules might look better if you could use OR instead of |. It's an awkward character to type, looks a bit less literate, and I can probably type OR faster.
@RebolBot
parse "abbabab" [some ["a" | "b"]]
parse "abbabab" [some ["a" or "b"]]
 
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; rebol.com/r3/docs/errors/script-parse-rule.html
>> parse "abbabab" [some ["a" | "b"]] parse "abbabab" [some ["a" or "b"]]
*** ERROR
** Script error: PARSE - invalid rule or usage of rule: or
** Where: parse
** Near: parse "abbabab" [some ["a" or "b"]]
 
Really, though, it's not so much about when it fits on one line, but being clearer when you've got a long rule broken into lots of different lines. Right now I use:
parse "abbabab" [
    some [
        "a"
    |
        "b"
    ]
]
But if you're reading way down and it's very complicated, the line with just the bar on it is weird and a little bit too slight-seeming
It's a single character, and very thin, yet has a very important bit of meaning... and you wind up a lot of times with [] () | [] () | [] () patterns, and ) | [ looks odd.
parse "abbabab" [
    some [
        "a"
    or
        "b"
    ]
]
 
5:26 AM
ripa, Kolkata, India
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Greetings @ripa, welcome to the Rebol and Red room. See our ad by chance? :-)
 
Hi
Yes see it from here :)
 
@ripa Good! I made the ad, glad people are clicking on it. :-) Well, what we like to do here is tell people about Red and its predecessor (Rebol). We have a robot for demoing, if you have some time...
 
yes - This is an interesting topic
 
@RebolBot
print [{I can evaluate code if you use SHIFT-ENTER after addressing with "@RebolBot",} (reverse {apir@})]
 
5:31 AM
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>> print [{I can evaluate code if you use SHIFT-ENTER after addressing with "@RebolBot",} (reverse "apir@")]
I can evaluate code if you use SHIFT-ENTER after addressing with "@RebolBot", @ripa
 
@ripa Have you ever used anything like Lisp before, where code is just data in the language?
 
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@RebolBot
code: [print 1 + 2]
print [{The number of symbols in code is:} length? code]
foreach elem code [
    print [{The type of} mold elem {is} mold type? elem]
]
print {About to run the code...}
do code
append code [+ 100]
print ["The length of symbols in code is now:" length? code]
do code
 
@HostileFork no , I haven't
 
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>> code: [print 1 + 2] print ["The number of symbols in code is:" length? code] foreach elem code [print ["The type of" mold elem "is" mold type? elem]] print "About to run the code..." do code append code [+ 100] print ["The length of symbols in code is now:" length? code] do code
The number of symbols in code is: 4
The type of print is word!
The type of 1 is integer!
The type of + is word!
The type of 2 is integer!
About to run the code...
 
5:33 AM
that is why I am more interested
 
Hello @BappiDatta, explaining some Rebol/Red right now :-)
@ripa Does what happened above make sense to you?
 
i am just read about Red. Its quiet interesting.
 
We are able to use the same kinds of series operations we might use to (for instance) append things to strings to append symbols to code. The code is just data to us.
 
but i need more to comments about it.
 
@BappiDatta Awesome. Yes, it is. We're very excited about it.
 
5:35 AM
i need to read more to comments about it.
 
It's being developed very heavily. Rebol is older and more stable, so we try to encourage people to start learning with it... Red will take a bit more time before it's really something you can be a "user" of. Although a dialect of Red, Red/System, is being used to develop commercial security camera products that run on Raspberry Pi.
 
@HostileFork I have 1 question. Which platform is used to create this Red?
 
@ripa Red is developed in Rebol (version 2) at the moment. So any platform Rebol 2 runs on... there are many! It is important to notice that the goal of Red is to build code directly to the platform. So it does not want to require anything else to be installed. You can compile a Red program on a Windows machine and have it output an executable for OS/X or Linux, for instance. And the compiler is under a megabyte!
We are aiming to build .APK files for Android without any Java Development kit or anything like that. You just download Red, and it can build for any platform from any platform. It is very ambitious. Yet much is working!
@BappiDatta You might want to check out this article I wrote...
 
@HostileFork It's very much interesting. and I have many more questions on this. But right now I'm in office. So quite busy now :( . May I discuss later? May I get that opportunity?
 
@HostileFork thanks a lot
 
5:42 AM
@ripa Yes, stop by... people are on and off at various times here in the room, so you might wind up talking to someone different. :-)
But everyone is nice here.
 
:)
Thanks
 
5:54 AM
Whoa, I just found I had an foo = value instead of a foo: value. :-/ Hopefully Red can fire a warning on things like that...
 
6:42 AM
Okay, step 1 of making Draem less of an embarrassment in implementation complete. It uses PARSE for the dialect-to-html conversion.
 
Rebol 3 is featured in the February 2014 issue of ODROID Magazine, released today at magazine.odroid.com. The articles start at page 28. Check it out!
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@HostileFork Your logo is featured prominently throughout. :-)
 
@Respectech Awesome. :-)
 
6:57 AM
@Respectech "The Rebol language family was recently recognized as the most expressive multi-purpose languages, as seen in the chart below"... don't see a chart!
 
@HostileFork I know. It appears that Layout has removed some of the images (probably to save space). I'll have a word with them on that.
Also, I had some Android screenshots of the interfaces created by R3-GUI. Those didn't make it either.
 
The most recent revision of the 3-D Rebol logo is a bit better proportioned: rebol.net/wiki/Image:Fork-logo-3d-draft.png
 
@HostileFork Is it significant enough for me to mention it to Layout?
 
@Respectech Well, it's significant to me :-) but I'll leave it up to you.
 
@HostileFork I'll mention it and see what happens.
Must hit the sack. See you all tomorrow.
 
7:08 AM
Nite!
 
8:02 AM
Learner Student, United Arab Emirates
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8:34 AM
I just cam to know about Red. where can I get further tutorials, docs etc
 
8:53 AM
Hi @LearnerStudent just busy at the moment so I can't stop to chat have a look at these resources and have a browse back up this chat history as well
5 hours ago, by HostileFork
@CzarPino Sure ask any questions you like. You might find this article I wrote informative. Some people think Rebol in 10 steps is a good starting point.
As a starting point, Rebol is the language which Red is based upon hence it is good to learn a bit of rebol. Rebol 2 was closed source, but rebol 3 is open source. Red is a new language which is taking the idea even further to enable low level programming and compilation as well
You can always try out code here in this room as well!
@rebolbot
print "Welcome @LearnerStudent"
 
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>> print "Welcome @LearnerStudent"
Welcome @LearnerStudent
 
@johnk, @RebolBot thanks.. I am going to have look. Hope to be active member here soon.
 
9:20 AM
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10:03 AM
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10:43 AM
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11:06 AM
Gentlemen, ladies. Umm, I need a username password reset on REBOL4. Can I pester someone to email new temp password? btiffin at the new site vivaldi dot net. Please?
 
@DhrumilShah Hey, sorry to miss your visit. Feel free to ask anything about Rebol or Red here. Even "what is it" :) Same offer to you, @GeminiCoder -- Red needs iphone devs!
@BrianTiffin I can't help you there...but what do you need AltME for anyway? Hang out here! :)
@BrianTiffin I starred it so somebody should see it. You can see all the starred posts with "show all" on the right to catch up.
 
@BrianTiffin One second, Brian
@BrianTiffin Mail sent to your Yahoo mail.
 
Thanks Henrik, but I'm not at that address anymore. vivaldi now.
Excuse the pestering, but I wanted to check in
 
11:22 AM
@BrianTiffin ok, the user name is btiffin, the password is "fluff". please change it immediately after logging in.
 
@BrianTiffin If you learn anything interesting there that's not here, come back and tell us!
 
11:47 AM
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welcome @Ryan and @JackSmith. It's nice to have so many visitors. Do you want to learn about red and rebol?
 
 
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2:46 PM
@HostileFork
Completed italian translation of "What is Red?". Text in https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/what-is-red.it.srt?w=AAA67WygTPzf4ecaRIZVzgBrcXfEkKzd_KwBgc-5wCVBAA
 
 
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4:27 PM
@HostileFork this part is duplicated in the latest red blog post:
Red can compile executables for the major desktop operating systems: Linux, OS/X, Windows. (It also supports some smaller players like Syllable.) ...
 
4:49 PM
Damn, I can not comment on that blog... 1st I thought it's just Safari, but it doesn't work in Chrome either. My post just disappears in Safari and in Chrome when I press reply, the text input area doesn't even open, but it jumps into some random location....
 
5:00 PM
@onetom Strange, but not surprising from that software horror called Blogger. ;-)
 
5:27 PM
Chat related, I think it's worth it meta.stackoverflow.com/a/220475/210016
 
6:24 PM
If someone wants to make a quick and simple contribution to Red codebase, we need to update the Red/System documentation about conditional compilation directives according to this addition.
 
@HostileFork No reply—must mean there's nothing interesting there that isn't here...
 
7:13 PM
rgchris has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
posted on November 28, 2013 by Ladislav

Hi, Carl, 2013/11/27 Carl Read

posted on November 28, 2013 by Ladislav

Sorry, Carl, I wanted to thank you for your input, but for some mysterious reason the "thank you for your input" part got lost Dne čtvrtek, 28. listopadu 2013 18:17:04 UTC+1 Ladislav napsal(a): > > Hi, Carl, > > 2013/11/27

posted on November 28, 2013 by Cyphre

Hi Luca, AFAIK currently there is no publicly available source/build of REBOL 3 in form of a web browser plugin so you can't use any R3 script inside a Browser. regards, Cyphre

posted on November 28, 2013 by Ladislav

Hi, Luca, Dne středa, 27. listopadu 2013 10:43:56 UTC+1 Luca napsal(a):

posted on December 14, 2013 by CarlRead

Hi all, According to here... http://www.rebol.com/docs/words/wchecksum.html checksum by default returns the CRC of a string. In Rebol, this gives... >> checksum "test" == 15060074 However, PHP's crc32 (here: http://php.net/manual/en/function.crc32.php ) returns 3632233996 for "test", as does t

 
7:33 PM
Tweaked. Should show new content from Red GG when someone posts something.
 
posted on January 09, 2014 by fbou

Hi Red developers and users, after watching some of Nenads Talks on youtube my interest in Red got kindled. I am using Red version 0.4.1 on Linux and would like to run the ASCII 3D maze script found here: https://raw.github.com/hostilefork/teenage-coding/master/DUNGEON/dungeon.red I get an error mes

posted on January 09, 2014 by Peter Wood

Hi Fabian

posted on January 10, 2014 by fbou

Thanks Peter, i will try running the script after removing the description from the header this evening. Cheers Fabian Am Freitag, 10. Januar 2014 03:53:01 UTC+1 schrieb Peter Wood:

posted on January 27, 2014 by iArnold

Hi, Probably not a serious problem In the file IA-32.r in system/targets I notice there is a dash missing on line  31 (unsigned) conditions: make hash! [ ;-- name ----------- signed --- unsigned -- overflow?   #{00}  - not-overflow?  #{01}  - =     #{04}  -     #{05}  - signed?    #{08}  - uns

posted on January 28, 2014 by Peter Wood

In case you haven't seen it, Nenad has posted an update on his trip to China at http://www.red-lang.org. It includes his expectation of including a simple GUI dialect in the next release. Peter

posted on January 28, 2014 by Andrew Chi

That is really GREAT news. Looking forward!! On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Peter W A Wood wrote:

posted on January 28, 2014 by iArnold

Hi, As I am studying the sources a bit better I come across these comments in system/compiler.r script: >>  [2 op  - [a [number!] b [number!] return: [number!]]]  ;-- shift left signed

posted on February 03, 2014 by Jacob

Question as a title =). Are they going to support full time work on Red? Are they interested in Red? Will any company in China be helping directly with the creation/continued work on Red? It sounded like Red will be a side project that you are working on while doing consulting; is that not the case?

posted on February 09, 2014 by Brian Dickens

On the heels of other recent news, Red has applied to be a mentoring organization for the Google Summer of Code 2014.  Here is the list of potential project ideas we are submitting: http://www.red-lang.org/2014/02/project-ideas-for-google-summer-of-code.html But one doesn't have to be a student or

posted on February 09, 2014 by Andreas Bolka

As Google Groups are simply mailing lists as well, I get an email. Not only a digest, but one email per message. I also reply via email, and hardly ever use the web interface to Google Groups.

 
Or now. I suppose.
(sorry @earl, lobby Fork on this one)
 
8:39 PM
rgchris has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
(this one's experimental)
 
posted on February 04, 2014 by Sam

Thanks for your help. I don't expect an answer but I may post a few ideas here. I don't want to wear out my welcome. I do look around a lot before asking questions but sometimes I miss things. WebGL sounds nice but it,"...It uses the HTML5 canvas element and is accessed using Document Object Model interfaces...". Canvas does some miraculous things. I saw a demo, http://net.tutsplus.com/articl

posted on February 06, 2014 by Nick

That's a fantastic idea!

posted on February 10, 2014 by ron

well I hope red addresses usb ports for transfer and such.

posted on February 10, 2014 by Nick

Search the rebol.org archives - I have read about implementations of USB access in native R2. Otherwise, perhaps use a library such as http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/libusb-win32/wiki

posted on February 11, 2014 by Rex

Thanks Nick. Now I know how to define my own copy-types function :)

 
I don't think we've (yet) reached a point where the Feeds bot has overwhelmed chat, I'd suggest leaving these feeds in place for a probationary period.
 
8:57 PM
@rgchris Thanks for getting that working Chris, I think it's a good thing. I'm not totally sure of the purpose of Nick's forum, but it is the case that some questions are unwelcome on StackOverflow if they aren't very focused and narrow... so probably good to have a place to put those. However, a lot of the time I think the rules for what makes a "good question" helps people write better and more instructive posts, so...
 
@HostileFork For the most part, I'd like to see those questions on StackOverflow. For whatever reason, these ones are not. I'd rather we were able to catch them and answer/welcome than ignore them because they happen to be in a legacy area.
 
@giuliolunati Great news on the Italian translation, although that DropBox link says I don't have permission... if that method is having trouble there is always the normal send-a-pull-request.
 
I think this will draw people in rather than send them away :)
 
@rgchris I agree. Also, we could always re-ask their question for them here and then say "follow this link to my answer" :-)
 
@HostileFork Could a certain bot be trained to do that :)
 
9:03 PM
@onetom Thanks for noticing that, I was pasting some updates in Trello from earl in a hurry and must have done something dumb like forgotten to push "update" after deleting the old part. Because I'm sure I deleted it.
@rgchris I have a sneaking suspicion that if it were done automatically we would be in trouble! Also, it seems all the posts on Nick's forum starting with Rebol on Linux and before aren't coming up for me.
 
Trouble: probably.
@HostileFork The feed is experimental, it might need tweaking before it behaves properly. Will see...
 
Other news: Carl got back to me about my mail and says he wants to "get the pulse going" on GitHub. He has still not come right out and backed my plan to have community management of the GitHub master while he makes the calls on stable...which will have its own automatic downloads page for the cross-platform binaries. Then he can integrate changes from master at his own rate after their impact has been assessed.
I think that one aspect driving his concern is the feeling that doing integrations of changes that require work (e.g. FUNCT => FUNCTION)--even if they're good changes--will wind up meaning that the Rebol executable will drift from what works with the code he has and depends on in the times he wants to pull out Rebol and use it for something.
He asked what the best way to keep up was, and I guess my answer is still just the starred post list here. If something is interesting and he wants to read about it in context, he can click through. If he has a question, he can then turn around and ask it here.
Anyway, should he come by when I'm not around, I'd ask everyone to please help echo a unified lobby that we want the two-branch, two automatic builds solution so that we can be moving forward...and that this is what everyone thinks is best. I'm assuming they do. Is anyone against that plan?
@BenjaminGruenbaum Chat has seemed rather static, in terms of features. Even simple requests, like being able to reply in a fixed width font, are not responded to. Yet they still find time on meta to argue at me with how "I asked wrong" or "get to the point" on nearly every question I ask. :-/ It's such a consistent pattern of bad experiences that I think I may stop using meta.
In case we have to migrate some day, I'd ask people to link to the chat with http://rebolsource.net/go/chat-faq anywhere that you don't personally have edit control.
 
9:52 PM
" he wants to "get the pulse going"" - I don't believe it anymore, sorry ...
 
@pekr I believe it (intent), but the second part is a handbrake.
 
Intent is nice ... action is better :-)
 
Agreed. This: "[...] concern is [...] even if they're good changes [...] that the Rebol executable will drift from what works [...]" is telling though. At some point you just have to step off and trust that it'll be ok.
 
Well those are my words, not his. I'm trying to capture what the hold up is, exactly.
@pekr It is a challenge to balance all the factors. Rebol was his product and invention. While it would be possible to "do the easy thing" and just go off and come up with another name and work on what code was necessary elsewhere. I guess I think like someone writing a movie or novel, as to how you want a story to go. I've wanted to see the search rank kept, the documentation and history falling under community curation, etc.
 
@HostileFork - I know, but the reality is, that Carl has almost zero time to work on Rebol. And Doc is progressing well. Also - Carl repeatively claims to find some time to get things going, to yet again completly fail
So - as for me, and chances of R3 getting further, are an unnecessary distraction from Red
You are free to disagree of course ...
 
10:01 PM
Well, we're not really sitting around coding on Rebol's C sources right now. Saphirion is, but going on their own way, and I'd like to see all that packed and brought back.
 
It's a dead end - just believe me, and don't waste a minute on that!
 
Red should absolutely not bootstrap too early. That would be a major mistake. If Rebol3 can be adapted to be more along the agreed-upon best practice design for both languages, it will mean that it could be used and get Red onto more platforms and in places that insisted on a full open source development chain.
I don't think we're too far from that, though it does mean reversing a couple of Rebol3 changes that seem to have been agreed upon (e.g. indexing compromise)
And I've also mentioned that some people simply will want a Rebol-like language that's on a toolchain they trust...for whatever purpose.
 
@HostileFork italian translation here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8tmpm68r80h15qx/what-is-red.it.srt
oh-oh.... What about the future of rebol3? I'm wasting my time learning it? :-/
 
@giuliolunati Learning the precise details of the C codebase may not be a great use of time. But the language, no... Red and Rebol are almost identical most of the time.
@giuliolunati Thanks for going through the translation! Hopefully it was informative as well. :-) I've added the track...you can choose it from the menu "What is Red"
I can't figure out how to send a YouTube link with the captions automatically on and in a certain language. :-/
The Rebol codebase is not that hard to learn if you know C, it's relatively clear.
 
I'm not so interested in codebase...
I want now learn rebol
Happy to learn and contribute!
 
10:14 PM
@HostileFork I don't think it will, or it'd at least have to get rid of = as comparison operator first.
 
@earl Well, I was thinking maybe it could statically analyze if anyone uses the value. So if you say: print "Foo" a = 10 print "Bar" it might notice a side-effect free comparison. I'm just wondering if it's a common enough mistake to be worth having a warning for.
 
@HostileFork If it's a common enough warning, the far less brittle solution would be to get rid of the operator.
But, yes, "unused value" warnings are another theoretic option.
 
@giuliolunati So any Rebol projects you want to try? Learning to use PARSE is a big leg up on many data processing tasks. You can also very early learn to appreciate COMPOSE, CASE, ANY, ALL... have you seen these?
 
@giuliolunati Thank you very much for the translation! :)
 
@DocKimbel I appreciate very very much your project and your courage!
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10:23 PM
@RebolBot delete
@RebolBot
takes-integer: true

foo-definition: compose/deep [
    foo: func [value [(either takes-integer [integer!] [decimal!])]] [
        print [{The type of value is} mold type? value]
    ]
]

print mold foo-definition

do foo-definition

foo 1020
 
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>> takes-integer: true foo-definition: compose/deep [foo: func [value [(either takes-integer [integer!] [decimal!])]] [print ["The type of value is" mold type? value]]] print mold foo-definition do foo-definition foo 1020
[foo: func [value [integer!]] [print ["The type of value is" mold type? value]]]
The type of value is integer!
 
@giuliolunati If you look at that, you will see COMPOSE in action. Where it lets you "template" code... anything in parentheses will be evaluated and the rest untouched. This dynamically creates the definition of a function, and a boolean is used to pick whether it will take integers or decimals. The /DEEP option means it doesn't just look at the first level of the block for parentheses, but will descend into it. Does that make sense?
@RebolBot
takes-integer: false

foo-definition: compose/deep [
    foo: func [value [(either takes-integer [integer!] [decimal!])]] [
        print [{The type of value is} mold type? value]
    ]
]

print mold foo-definition

do foo-definition

foo 1020
 
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; rebol.com/r3/docs/errors/script-expect-arg.html
>> takes-integer: false foo-definition: compose/deep [foo: func [value [(either takes-integer [integer!] [decimal!])]] [print ["The type of value is" mold type? value]]] print mold foo-definition do foo-definition foo 1020
[foo: func [value [decimal!]] [print ["The type of value is" mold type? value]]]
*** ERROR
** Script error: foo does not allow integer! for its value argument
 
@RebolBot
takes-integer: false

foo-definition: compose/deep [
    foo: func [value [(either takes-integer [integer!] [decimal!])]] [
        print [{The type of value is} mold type? value]
    ]
]

print mold foo-definition

do foo-definition

foo 1020.0
 
; Brought to you by: tryrebol.esperconsultancy.nl
>> takes-integer: false foo-definition: compose/deep [foo: func [value [(either takes-integer [integer!] [decimal!])]] [print ["The type of value is" mold type? value]]] print mold foo-definition do foo-definition foo 1020.0
[foo: func [value [decimal!]] [print ["The type of value is" mold type? value]]]
The type of value is decimal!
 
10:28 PM
@DocKimbel Now we're up to 4 languages. Link for @graph again if he has time to do the German... https://github.com/hostilefork/rebol-red-cc/tree/master/what-is-red
 
@giuliolunati Thanks for your kind support, you wouldn't believe how much moral support can help in such kind of long journey. :)
 
@HostileFork I'm now working on text format conversion ... learning PARSE.
Oooo... COMPOSE seems great!
Another aspect I love of rebol is homoiconicity
 
@HostileFork That makes me think that having a serbian translation would be nice also, unfortunately my technical serbian is too limited for that.
 
@DocKimbel You could ask your parents. :-)
 
@HostileFork Bad pick. ;)
But I might be able to call on Twitter for some help on that...
 
10:31 PM
@DocKimbel Well you probably know somebody. Maybe you can tweet the Github link above to #red_lang, mentioning the # of translations? I'll add a README to direct people to the video from the GitHub...
 
@DocKimbel @HostileFork
Thank for your great work, guys!
... g'night :-)
 
@giuliolunati Goodnight, don't forget to ask questions as you are learning... it helps if we have some traffic on the Q&A part of the site!
 
@giuliolunati Have a good night.
@HostileFork @giuliolunati +1
 
@hostilefork OT try switching the VM on you nexus from davlik to art. Better battery life and faster app startup
 
@DocKimbel Okay I added the link. So you can just Twitter something like "What is Red" video now subtitled in English, Italian, Dutch, and Czech. Help with more? Chinese, Serbian...? :-) https://github.com/hostilefork/rebol-red-cc/tree/master/what-is-red
#1 ad has 5001 clicks to our 4413, closest behind us is 3,355.
The world is ready for a full stack language!
 
11:22 PM
@HostileFork @graph For some light evening entertainment, I translated the first 99 items to German: github.com/earl/rebol-red-cc/blob/what-is-red-de/what-is-red/… -- whoever wants to take the German subtitling further, feel free to take it from here (not sure when I'll got to the next light evening :).
 
@earl A tribute to "99 Luftballons"? :-)
 
As an experiment, I did this solely with the Github web interface. So without a local Git clone or any CLI involvement. Seems to be surprisingly workable already. I couldn't find a way to copy an existing file, though. And renamed an existing file by accident. But seeing what they've done so far, I'm sure they'll figure out those quirks as well.
 
@DocKimbel/@earl Here is a 100x100 version of the Red Tower for the red GitHub Organization page
Which should presumably be called "Red Programming Language" as distinct from DocKimbel GitHub account
 

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