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3:10 AM
@clickhere Just realized Bonobo wasn't on the chill band playlist at all. Updated: gist.github.com/ZachSaucier/4aefe9e21ebe48290f3f6c9d34729ac2
 
3:30 AM
I'm not crazy about Bonobo like some. he's fine
 
 
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6:19 AM
posted on January 31, 2017

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
 
6 hours later…
user6619012
12:36 PM
 
user6619012
i need to display "back" near to "save" button, i am using position : relative; left : 230px; is this right way ?
 
user6619012
is there any other way ?
 
user6845426
@user5348fh8y5 If they need to position next to eachother you could put them in a parent container and use float ?
 
user6619012
@F.Bar thanks, actually its not normal html site, actually its magento site , so very dificult to change html structure, is there any solution with css alone ?
 
user6845426
Can you make a fiddle of what you currently have? Then i can take a look
 
user6619012
12:45 PM
@F.Bar can you please join here : chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/134479/css-help-needed
 
1:07 PM
@user5348fh8y5 that is not how chat rooms should be used
 
user6619012
@CSᵠ i am sorry, my intention was to not to disturb all pepoles in room......
 
that's fine
 
1:58 PM
I run Linux and until now I have only used Android phones. But it's really annoying to find out that some site / app feature is not working on iphone. Do you think it's enough to buy an Iphone SE or 5? Or will I have to end up with 4, 5, 6, 7 and their s variants and jailbreaked versions?
I got a friend whos using a jailbreaked iphone 6 with ios 8 I think. And that one just does not want anything to work hehe
 
2:26 PM
@Schoening You can simply use browserstack.com
you get some free time but eventually you have to pay. It lets you test on actual devices
rather than trying to emulate 1000 different ones
 
@TylerH yeah but thats sooo slow compared to local network with actual devices ;_;
But probably a lot better than buying 20 phones lol
Thanks for the link btw. I have tried some alternatives to browserstack before but I guess it might be worth getting it
 
@Schoening it's a VPN, it's not that slow...
the slowness is just setting it up I suppose
 
I guess I am nitpicking a bit. No real need for the scrolling to be in realtime for checking if the site looks alright.
 
Yeah most of the use is in testing actual support/functionality, and whether the design matches the device resolution
 
Yeah, good points. Alright. Thanks for the site. Worth the investment I think.
 
2:41 PM
Hope it's useful for you :-)
 
G K
2:59 PM
Hello all,
I am trying for some design thing to be imported into my asp.net application, I had some issues with this thing,
The progress bar is not animating as it works in HTML page
even now it is html page but I have put them under my C# project with some folder strcutures. All JS files I have included in right paths itself.
 
@GK Please check out the rules in the goo.gl link over on the right :-)
 
G K
Okay, hope I made it clear and small with not too long.
 
4:01 PM
I'm having a weird issue where one of my inputs in a GET form is not being submitted, so it's not in my URL.

`<input name="distPreference" type="number" style="min-width: 100px;" placeholder="Afstand" value="20" min="20" max="200">`

It has a name but it doesn't end up in my URL, nor is it caught by PHP. Other value is visible.
Any tips would be really appreciated
 
we need to see a more for recreation of the issue in order to be able to help
 
Bigger code snippet I guess?
 
Something
 
Can you tell me if you can view this page? eerstehulpgroep.jouwtestwebsite.nl/cursussen/ehbo-basis
If so the form is down below
 
yep
which part?
 
4:04 PM
It's about the "Afstand" number input.
 
gotcha
 
The other one is a zipcode, you can enter 1328MA if you'd like something to test with.
 
are you using JS to obtain the values somewhere?
or is it the default submit behavior?
 
I am not. It's the default submit behavior, and the only thing that does happen is that the value is passed through PHP.
 
So if the value is passed, isn't that the code we should be looking at?
 
4:09 PM
It doesn't do much other than check if a $_GET value with that name is already set, if so set that as the value, else set the value to 20
Err.. I think I know formatting.. Let's see..
Ah, the line is too long.
@ZachSaucier I think this can give some clarity on what I meant gist.github.com/Rezaldy/8e260527cf0df2104219a88f4b72cb1d
 
I'm not a PHP guy but that looks right to me
as long as that matches the format you have for the other stuff
usually in PHP we would get the form and then check those values for what is set and what isn't
 
It does.. It's just strange how the "distPreference" value isn't being passed in the url, which would be normal for GET right
 
depends how you're getting I guess
ask in the PHP room :P
 
Will do, thank you!
 
don't let zach fool you
he lives for php
 
Wes
4:18 PM
seen "he lives for php" in the latest message and i thought you were making fun of me :B
 
haha
 
lol
how's the php life @Wes
 
Wes
better than js's life, i assure you
 
Wes
not that it doesn't suck :B
 
4:19 PM
shots fired
 
This sounds like such a dumb thing to be stuck on but here I am, I fixed other huge algorithms the site uses but I can't fix this. :|
 
The software development process i can’t fix this *crisis of confidence* *questions career* *questions life* oh it was a typo, cool
 
I reaaally need to find that last moment lol
PHP chat being PHP chat and ignoring my question o/
 
say that PHP sucks then they won't ignore you
100% guaranteed to work
 
"Java > PHP"
 
Wes
4:31 PM
@RizkyFakkel you may find it surprising, but that room is extremely helpful
 
true
If they pay attention :P
 
Last time I asked something I got scolded. :/
 
Hopefully it was a helpful scolding
 
Saying I didn't search SO enough, and I got people assuming I wasn't even looking for anything but having someone do my work
SO is normally my last resort lol
It wasn't really, I felt uncomfortable and just left without answering
 
As it should be
 
4:40 PM
I always force myself to look and try on my own for 3 days before I ask on SO
 
But you have to ask good questions to get good answers
 
usually I either solve it myself, or it wasn't really that important, or I found a work around
 
@TylerH That's just dumb
 
@ZachSaucier no it's not
 
If you're talking about a specific question, it shouldn't ever take 3 days
 
4:41 PM
I don't spend 3 days. I usually try to spend a couple hours
 
@ZachSaucier maybe not for you but not everyone works at the same speed
 
3-4 hours before I get frustrated, and when I get frustrated it's hard for me to think straight so I resort to SO
 
I know a company that requires you to wait at least 15 minute trying to solve a specific question but after 15 minutes require you to ask someone
 
But I also don't ever have the luxury of devoting all my time to one problem
so that's not really '72 hours working on the same problem'
 
I think that's on the low side, but it should be along those lines
 
4:43 PM
yes, at work if I'm having an issue with something our guidelines are roughly 'if you can't solve something after 30 minutes of trying, ask someone for help'
but I don't ask questions on Stack Overflow about stuff I'm doing for work
 
^..Whoops.
Then again, I have not signed a single NDA or anything.
 
It's fine to ask about work stuff - you should usually be creating a mvce anyway
 
@RizkyFakkel Yeah I don't avoid it because I'm not allowed, I avoid it because it's not the most efficient way for me to get an answer to something about work
most things I'm doing for work that I have questions about already have answers on Stack Overflow anyway
 
As long as coworkers can help
 
because it's just something basic that I need to google for an app or language I haven't worked on in a while
 
4:45 PM
People ask me for help, and I have 1 collegue that could MAYBE help me each time.
So I don't have a lot of people to resort to lol
Get this, I still consider myself a junior dev.
 
there's nothing wrong with being a junior dev
 
And I know more than most people here. So eh, yeah, I have a hard time getting answers at times.
There's not, it's just hard when I don't have a senior to call me out on my bs.
 
most people in general are incompetent
 
@RizkyFakkel it can be hard, but you can always turn to some outside mentor if you really want/need that
 
or ask us :P
 
4:48 PM
there's even a site for mentoring on programming :-P
 
This is the first good experience I've had asking questions lol.
 
@TylerH many
 
What is it, Tyler?
 
Codementor.com is obviously the one I'm talking about
 
.. That sounded way too obvious
 
4:49 PM
 
er, .io
not .com
they really should buy .com
@RizkyFakkel it's often expensive but you are after all paying people to help you 1 on 1
so you can get a lot of really valuable feedback
 
But I'd prefer not to use CM if you want mentoring so we don't get their fee
 
Time is money huh
Oh this is.. really pricey.
 
@ZachSaucier How are taxes with that
@RizkyFakkel everybody's prices are different
but you are paying a consultant rate
 
@TylerH Fine?
 
4:51 PM
I mean, not how much you have to pay, but the extra forms and stuff
 
They do the taxes thankfully
AFAIK
 
what do you mean?
 
Well then, Wes found a possible cause. Now I just have to find the culprit.
 
you have to report the income to the IRS yourself
 
Right
 
4:52 PM
@RizkyFakkel Wes is a pro after all
just don't tell him we said that
 
They give me a 1099-MISC
 
gotcha
I had to fill out a 1099-SA for the first time this year
because I had my own health insurance last year
 
I made less that $200 from CM in the last year though :P
 
oh, you made most in 2015?
I forget how much they take out
 
Ever since they accepted a crap ton of mentors I get almost none
ya
 
4:54 PM
people have paid in like $1500 to you
 
They take ~20%
 
but I guess they take out a substantial amount
and most mentors charge a bit of an absurd amount
I get that that's the industry practice, but I'd probably never pay someone $120 an hour
 
At the start it was great because you had a few, very solid mentors for each subject
now there are a plethora for each so each person gets like none
 
Yeah it might do better if they have a more selective membership
 
and the low end (crappy) mentors are the ones that get the most
 
4:56 PM
like, a group of presitigous developers
 
If I ran my own agency I think I'd have a part of our business be to offer mentorship for hire
for any of our workers if they wanted to/had the time
 
Wes
@TylerH <3
i'm not a pro. i wish i was :B
the actual pro's are in the php room
 
Wes
5:18 PM
@TylerH is "referent" the entity being referred to or the entity referencing another entity
nobody knows on the interwebs
 
@Wes the person being referred
referrer is the person who references another
 
Wes
wouldn't that be the referee, if it was an actual word
 
though I've never heard reverent used in practice
 
Wes
the referent refers to the referee
the referee is being referenced by the referent
that is the literal translation from italian. obviously it's the other way round in english :B
 
why are you asking about it anyway? :P
it's a fuzzy situation because it's hardly ever talked about
 
Wes
5:25 PM
attempting to slightly improve some documentation with english even worse than mine :B
there's a variable named "referent" it should be just "reference" or "referee" if it was an actual word
apparently referent is correct. wtf
will never get english :B
 
 
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6:42 PM
@Wes meh, business lingo
like guarantee and guarantor
it depends on context
 
7:12 PM
It's so sad to see people reading trash news - even worse than the big name news - that resorts to name calling and emotional writing
 
Wes
7:33 PM
Oh, well that's all right then https://t.co/ym8FWmES0X
can't tell if daily mail are premier league trolls or...
 
I read that reply already :P
 
Wes
:P
 
8:11 PM
I'd bet 90% of what colleges "teaches" can be figured out with basic logical thought
 
@ZachSaucier 90% of what college teaches is how to think logically and critically
these days
@Wes always trolls
 
@TylerH which is dumb
 
why
 
highschool should teach how to think logically and critically, college should teach expertise on a subject
 
Wes
@ZachSaucier lol true
 
8:13 PM
In college they should assume you can think logically and critically
 
agreed, but unfortunately each state gets to determine a large portion of what its students have to learn in grade school, and the national standards aren't exactly great, eiither
And the problem with colleges ignoring the state of things and just flunking/refusing to bring in kids with low scores means 1: way less funding and 2: we have a job market that won't even look at your resume if you don't have a college degree of some kind
so that would lead to large swathes of unemployment
towns and local municipalities have an inordinate amount of control over a lot of school policy, too
My ex girlfriend's school didn't spend a single day of K-12 science/biology talking about evolution. I was flabbergasted when she told me that
I dunno wtf they studied the rest of the time since modern biology is pretty much founded upon it
 
8:30 PM
posted on January 31, 2017 by admin

 

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