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m59
12:02 AM
@Terry lol to a lot of people, jQuery IS a religion LOLZ
 
@m59 unfortunately 'sigh' yes.
 
@Terry don't hate. jQuery is a useful thing. Its just a shame people sometimes don't know how to use it, or how it works.
 
@mikedidthis oh, no. I'm not hating jQuery. I'm just scared of the devotion some people have to using it. Like I said early, I've been attacked on SO for not wanting to use jQuery on projects.
 
@Terry if you understand javascript, it can be great tool for getting stuff done. But again its preference.
 
@mikedidthis I guess my only problem with jQuery is this. It's too accessible, like what you said, it's just a shame that pople sometimes don't know how javascript works so they abuse jQuery.
 
12:15 AM
@Terry that is how I started though.
I spent most of last year unlearning jQuery and javascript thanks to @rlemon and @Wes
 
yay!
I love Javascript.
Been in love with it for a very long time now
 
@mikedidthis Me too, I started off with jQuery. I have NO problem with jQuery, it's great, honestly amazing... but i do have a problem with people persistently telling me to 'just use jQuery'. jQuery isnt right for every project.
 
I think I wrote my first JS in 1998/1999 ish
 
@rlemon that's awesome ^_^
 
there wasn't much you could do with it
 
12:18 AM
@rlemon so you're engaged to javascript? :P
 
@alisamii common-law
;)
 
haha
 
@rlemon that's my excuse for not marriage the girl :D
 
I might as well be... that amount of time i spend coding...
 
coding is life, life is coding. learn to accept that and move on.
 
12:19 AM
Shit, my computer is my girlfriend... we play games together... we wtach movies to gether... I go home and turn her on :O
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right now, I'm having a lovers quarrel with ack on centos
 
I'm working with Angstrom
yea... thats right... probably never heard of it eh?
neither had I
:/
JavaScript didn't get really interesting for me until I discovered HTML5 Canvas.... O.o game changer for me
 
@rlemon what do you need to use Å units for?
one-ten billionth of a meter is an odd unit to need to work with
 
The Ångström distribution is a Linux distribution for a variety of embedded devices. The distribution is the result of a unification of developers from the OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded, and OpenSIMpad projects. Amongst other options the user interface in one of the reference builds achieveable with BitBake is the GPE Palmtop Environment. Ångström uses opkg for package management. Target platforms According to the Ångström wiki, Ångström is being developed for at least the following devices: * Sharp Zaurus: ** SL-5500 (Collie) (not supported in current stable release) ** SL-5600 (Poodle) ...
 
I'm required to do a thesis for me to graduate next year... I was thinking of trying to pull off a rudimentary canvas mmo game.
 
12:23 AM
If you are being Ironic. hur hur otherwise it is a distro
@Terry problem with that stuff (for me) is there is so many parts to consider... and then you have to worry about your game.
 
I was trying to be ironic.
 
the canvas api is minimal
 
I think I fell flat on my face
 
there is way too much overhead to deal with (unless you plan on using a framework or start trying to develop your own now... but good luck)
@Loktar (if you get this) - chime in here - how long did it take you to build your game engine, and how long (hrs) did it take you to make grapple hero (not even an advanced mmo)
 
the canvas api is minimal but in regards to an 8bit style mmo, i can see it working quite nicely, think snes link to the past... Server IO would be my major concern...
 
m59
12:26 AM
I wonder how hard that is ^
 
well with websockets and binary transfers you'll be fine there (should be)
 
m59
When I get some time to code purely for amusement, I want to write a game
 
I've started a few simple games
finished some clones
 
m59
I haven't had time to learn canvas at all
 
@m59 me too, that's why I wanna dedicate a year of my life to try and do it.
 
12:27 AM
but nothing spectacular
 
@rlemon didn't he end up using a framework? Or was that for the ports?
 
that was just for the port.
I believe he used his own game engine (which if I recall took him some time - and trial and error to develop)
and he doesn't recommend others use it, there are better ones out there.
 
@rlemon, pretty cool... Is it something that you would encourage tackling?
like would you encourage others to try and do it too?
 
honestly. take a few stabs at some demos first.
I love Canvas. I think everyone should play with it
 
canvas is great
 
12:29 AM
but building a mmo is an enormous task. I'm not trying to discourage you from it, just trying to be realistic.
 
@rlemon canvas is on the same list as flexbox for me sadly, way over my head :D
 
you should definitely try to get some xp in it. It is still pretty infant, and it will become more and more a standard
 
@rlemon Canvas is awesome Im currently using it for some augmented reality stuff, controled with face-tracking.
 
now if you wanna get a job doing it - pick a good framework (maybe pay a little $$) and get really good with it - become an expert.
companies who use said framework will eat you up
 
m59
Oops, I forgot something in my api. What's the strategy for updating database records from an input json?
googling
 
12:31 AM
@Terry I would be interested in seeing some of that
rlemon.ca you can see some of my stuff here
mostly it is all on codepen except a few that involve videos
 
BTW, has anyone here implemented an ElasticSearch system using the ElasticSearch Server?
 
it's in alpha right now, the face-tracking algorithm needs a lot of clean-up. I'm guggling a few projects but I think in about a month it wil be in a good place to chare with the world... i bookmarked ur site. When it's ready I would be more then happy to share :D
 
cool. keep me posted
 
Night guys
 
12:33 AM
o/
 
m59
Ok, as I suspected, nothing evident on google.
 
@PatsyIssa night man!
 
m59
@PatsyIssa night!
 
fuck... Cowboys and Aliens is the best thing on Netflix right now... I'm starting to wonder if it is even worth the minimal cost it incurs :/
 
@m59 No hard feelings ? I have nothing against other people's beliefs nor do i try/am trying to convince anyone of anything.
 
m59
12:35 AM
Sounds good to me =D
 
:group hug:
 
cheers ^^
 
/o/
 
@rlemon, pretty cool stuff!
 
thanks.
 
12:36 AM
@rlemon do you have LIVESHADOW.JS in demo on codepen?
 
nothing big .. I only really do web as a side part of my job. Canvas is a hobby.
 
or elsewhere?
 
m59
So, if I send a PUT request to my api, does my input json need to include all the fields, aka missing fields means that record will be updated to empty?
 
the latter of course is the actual plugin
the first was me messing around with the idea
 
@m59 can I take a look at ur api?
 
m59
12:38 AM
Sure, let me push it to github
 
@mikedidthis, canvas is not so hard. Give it a go. U might be surprised!
 
@rlemon I had a small form factor pc added: wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=XBMCbuntu and: xbmchub.com/blog
 
@m59 cool, thanks :D
 
@rlemon nice. I can see a couple of potential projects I may have coming down the road that may benefit from it
you should put the link to the codepen in the github page
 
@mikedidthis I've been meaning to make a media box. I have all of the components just .. you know .. lazy as shit
 
12:39 AM
media boxes are the shit
 
@alisamii good call. TBH I thought I had one :/
 
@rlemon took an hour, and the streaming scripts are just amazing. Whole thing is automated / updating etc.
 
m59
also, I'm new with git. When I enter my commit message - long, long and detailed is good, right?
 
I have a handful of space mini ITX boards (500mhz) a rPi just collecting dust and a space pc sitting in the corner :/
I collect things....
@m59 no
 
@rlemon :)
 
12:41 AM
suggested 50chars
 
m59
oh.
 
I have a feeling most of use collect similar things...
 
concise
 
m59
I've been doing one liner and that seemed wrong.
Why not detailed?
 
@m59 the code explains what you did :D
 
m59
12:41 AM
oh
I guess I lucked out and did this one right all along =D
 
:)
 
@Terry I collect money, so if you want to help my collection? :D
 
I mean, if you want too. okay.. github suggests short and concise - tis' after all, your repo :)
 
@mikedidthis, I collect dept lol
 
!!s/p/b/
 
12:42 AM
@rlemon although isn't "gulb" the new business? (source)
 
fuck I forgot that doesn't work in other rooms
she only pulls from the host room (js)
 
thought so... :D
 
stupid chat... grumbles about no api
however it is possible to patch that... but it is a nasty patch
pull the entire dom back from the room called in. parse it. :/
 
@m59, I wish i could help with git but i coped out and went with git for windows, lame?
 
git bash man
git bash!!!
 
m59
12:44 AM
Wait what is this?
E37: No write since last change (in vim)
 
ask copy
I've never seen it
 
@Terry nothing wrong with that. I use source tree.
 
m59
I use :q and this never happened before
 
at least with git bash you have a half descent console to deal with
 
m59
:x worked so whatevs
 
12:46 AM
but that assumes you take the raw power that is CLI
:q!
whenever issues
force quit
 
m59
Did you see my tweet when I first started using git?
 
nope
@m59 you node right?
 
ahh, express?
 
m59
I'm not sure I need it.
 
12:49 AM
I'm going to be starting with it tomorrow and am canvasing for people who use it :P
I have till the end of the month to finish this project and i'm way behind
so i'll take anything that makes it a few days faster
 
m59
node is blowing up my brain. It's very hard to wrap my head around.
 
Node can be tricky...
 
it gives me some issues as well :P
but I have just spent three+ weeks trying to correct a library (in node) doomed to fail anyways
 
Sandwich attack... GO!
 
now i'm conceding and moving on (finishing the front end and adapters then going back to it)
 
m59
12:51 AM
don't judge too harshly :)
 
obligatory "haha PHP"
(please don't look at my github)
 
m59
Let's say my cms was angular front end and node api backend (rather than php backend)
 
@m59, I'm not one to judge. I'm more like an over-concerned Mom, if anything.
 
m59
would I setup two node servers, one using connect static to serve the front-end files and the other two serve the api?
 
ask SomeKittens
he uses node
 
m59
12:54 AM
oh so you're really as new as me =D
hehe
 
:)
I was trying to fix a big mistake in a modbus implementation
so it wasn't really working with node like other do
 
m59
The employer I hung out with last week was like "alright, install node and write a crud app in an hour"
me: tremble
7 hours later - crud app complete LOL
They said they wanted to throw something ridiculous at me to see how I handled it
 
basically I'm using node to communicate via Angstrom linux (Beagle Board, like a rPI) with a QNX system via rs232 then produce a small webapp to control the QNX system
all via modbus RTU
 
m59
weoah, dem terms
 
@m59 that's ridiculous, an hour? I'd be ninja smoke bombing on the spot. Good work.
 
m59
12:57 AM
haha, yeah, they knew I had never touched node before that moment, so I think I did well. He asked if I could do it, I was like "I'm about to find out!"
 
good answer lol
 
m59
I really want that job, but the only technology they use that I know well is jQuery.
I'm learning node, durandal and knockout for them
 
hehe when I got this job my boss asked "do you know how to do this?" - I told him honestly "No, but I can learn"
~3 years ago.
he's been happy so far
 
that's a great answer too
 
m59
@rlemon as he asked the question, was he pointing at his daughter?
 
12:59 AM
nope. honestly that had no decision in it
 
shit just got real...
 
(I'm dating my bosses Daughter)
 
m59
^
 
^^
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we had only been dating a short while. and when we first started dating and he learned I knew how to code he asked me to do contract work and I didn't have the time
 
12:59 AM
i fail :(
 

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