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2:33 AM
It isn't a 'typo' question, but the user was passing a wrong symbol as input. Link to comment.
It hasn't been replied to, but the error again is 'typo'.
Link to comment. :-/
I must stop reading all these comments now.
 
 
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3:38 AM
Used up my delete votes, but I'm having a hard time finding more questions to use my close votes on...
I'm finding them, but it's much slower than the back log list.
And.....I'm spent.
 
 
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10:04 AM
CALL FOR SEARCHES: I think it is a good moment to collect the searches we have been using. Can you guys ping me your used searches? I want to collect them all in a single place (answer), so that we can retrace our steps and others have a place where to start.
 
 
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I actually just used typo search. And am currently busy improving the backlog so I don't have any moar searches for you atm @Alexander
 
 
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@WesleyMurch I'm currently rewriting the backlog to use a database. Once that's in it's trivial to keep track of cv requests
 
Hello, would it be helpful if I also dumped here some related questions? Currently I'm just flagging them as "too localised", because I don't have voting provileges.
 
@Joulukuusi Yes, that would be great! Just make sure to format them so that the backlog script can read them.
@Joulukuusi Don't bother flagging, the mods are busy with other stuff. Just post them here. I recommend installing this: cv-pls.pieterhordijk.com
 
@WesleyMurch Okay, thanks! Is there a formatting template?
 
6:24 PM
Yes, [tag:cv-pls] link to question
Or you can just install the browser plugin and there's no need to type @Joulukuusi
You will get 2 new buttons in chat!
 
@WesleyMurch Once it is in the database it can also keep track of older requests
 
@PeeHaa That's awesome, I'd really be interested in stats on this later
 
@WesleyMurch Thank you very much, I'm going to install the plugin! I'll be right back when I have enough questions to post. Searching them with stackoverflow.com/…
 
@PeeHaa Could you determine things like the number of participants or is that not tracked?
I guess it could be done after the fact....
@Joulukuusi Yeah there are a lot of ways to find them. Right now everyone's just kind of going ape shit but we might need more organization later.
 
What do you mean by number of participants?
 
number of close votes?
 
@PeeHaa Number of people who posted cv requests.
The number of people who participated here finding stuff
And number of cv/delv requests per person....
 
Nope. That's not being tracked
 
 
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8:45 PM
@crypticツ it always pains me a bit to delete a question with an answer that goes out of its way to explain important things to the OP, but I guess its time has come. Plus the OP saw the answer, so...
 
@Pekka웃 yeah OP has fixed his localized issue, so should be fine. Unless OP wants to keep it around for memories of the good old days.
 
@crypticツ yeah.
 
How long are you suppose to wait until being able to vote a question for delete?
Or, I can't delete a question I help to close? I can't definitely get it yet
 
 
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11:17 PM
^ the above is a nice example why deleting these questions is not just OCD. It just appeared in my Google results for something entirely different (namely, where to find the error log in a MAMP install)
 
@Pekka웃 If you mean this one, it's basically just "you have a typo" followed by "{standard SO comment about PDO, Bobby Tables, etc.}".
I don't feel bad deleting it.
 
@WesleyMurch yeah, but I want the OP to see it before it's gone (which is a given in this case though)
 
@Pekka웃 That's one reason I'm limiting my searches to accepted answers. If it's accepted, you know the OP at least saw it.
Not only that, but you know the typo/mistake was the solution.
 
Yeah. A well worked out answer always gives me pause before deleting... but in a typo question its long-term usefulness arguably is zero
 
@Pekka웃 Could be a non-issue if this was implemented: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/2645/159834
The "wish I could delete but not sure if OP saw it" thing...
 
11:22 PM
@WesleyMurch yeah. I don't really get why the team keep rejecting that one.
 
I guess because deleted === garbage and no one wants to blur the line @Pekka. I asked the same question from a different angle and it was closed as dupe: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/168208
 
@WesleyMurch yeah, probably. They're wrong, but it makes some sense
 
@Pekka웃 By the way thanks for starting this room up.
 
@WesleyMurch sure, a pleasure... the authors of those tools deserve the big thanks, all I did was think of deploying them outside the PHP room :)
 
Maybe after this we can discuss giving the community better cleanup tools....
 
11:26 PM
Tim Post once told me that users are always able to visit their own questions, even if they are deleted, as long as they have the permalink. I'm not actually certain about this though, I might try it out with the cv-pls account, need to put a question in a tag where nobody really looks and get everyone to jump on it quickly though, I kinda need the account to work for other stuff
 
"as long as they have the permalink" is what's not likely.
...and shouldn't be.
 
No, but they'll have it in browser history.
 
Yeah but that's a hack.
And not always true (ask at work, come home to see answers)
 
True, there's no real reason not to show a user all their own questions on their profile page
 
I think it would be easy. Just give them the link once in a notification. "Your post was deleted, click here to see it"
There's no reason to "archive" it in a list, but they should be able to see it at least once.
Then if they want to keep the permalink, they have it.
 
11:30 PM
@WesleyMurch Agreed, but since SE don't hard delete anything ever I see no reason not to make the data available to its "owner"
 
Because it probably would be of no use, since it's deleted. I just think they should be able to see their comments and why the question was removed.
 
I'm going to try it out at some point tomorrow and see exactly what notification you do get, what the user actually sees (if anything)
 
"Your deleted questions" would be a pretty useless tool generally, but I can think of edge cases, and can see it as useful for old stuff that got deleted for being "not constructive" and stuff like that.
I am out of close votes, so just gonna slam some more cvpls up in here.
 
For me deletion is only necessary because closed questions are still indexed by Google, if they hid closed questions from the search crawlers I probably wouldn't ever bother deleting things, certainly not until they are a week or so old
Only 26 minutes to go ;-)
 
@DaveRandom Closed stuff shows up in SO search results and the "Related" sidebar as well.
It might as well be an open question. Only difference is it cant get new answers.
oh snap, I can paste the url then hit cv-pls button....
I've been hitting cv-pls, then paste, then click send or hit return
 
11:37 PM
The real dilemma I sometimes have though is on the older questions that were allowed when they were created but now they are not. And there's a whole bunch of rep that people earned honestly, and often the answers ar not necessarily wrong, they just don't belong on the site. I tend not to delv those things, but others do so I might as well just do it, it would make no difference either way
 
@DaveRandom Rep over 60 days old is permanent
 
What??? Why did no-one tell me this?
 
Yep, score of +3 older than 60 days - you keep your rep.
Otherwise it would be an epic shitfest.
 
@WesleyMurch I've been considering a keyboard shortcut, so you could, idk, ctrl + v -> g or something and it would paste and then g would auto-post it as a vote request.
Although also:
in cv-pls test room, Feb 4 at 21:57, by DaveRandom
Also I want to add some functionality whereby you get a checkbox when you cast a cv that auto-posts a request in chat
 
11:40 PM
^^ that's what is really needed, a link on the main site that posts chat messages automatically
 
@DaveRandom What's the possibility of posting cv-pls to a specific room by hitting a button on a question?
Is that outside the realm of possibility?
 
That's basically what I'm talking about, we discussed a few implementation details in the few messages below that one. From a technical point of view it's, well, non-trivial. Because we have a unified core code for Chrome and FF (and hopefully soon Opera, and Alexander was threatening to look at a Safari port) we need to create unified APIs for things like that
And cross tab messaging is quite complex even without an extra layer
although I was considering it in the car on the way home the other day and I do have a cunning plan
 
@DaveRandom It really might be a good idea to discuss getting some better cleanup tools for the non-mod janitors....
Like, stuff built into SO
Review queue is fail because it's fucking packed with questions and close votes expire fast
But maybe it's enough... just needs more people working on it.
Yeah, forget what I said about we need more tools.
 
I'm all for that, but we'd need a proper vision to take to them I think. There have been many meta questions saying "can you change this" or "how about this tweak" and they generally get shot down with answers along the lines of "it doesn't fit the model because", if we wanted any chance of making people listen we'd need a whole new model, not monkey patches to the current one. But then it would have to be implemented and... I just can't see it ever happening.
 
11:47 PM
Burn it.
 
I'm asking in a general sense, since your answer has to do with path references as well.
 
No matter how you look at it, that is way too localised
Even the question title is useless
I was young and foolish and short of rep back then
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
@DaveRandom Another similar example: stackoverflow.com/questions/7773610
 
You filthy little rep whore!
 
@DaveRandom There's nothing wrong with answering that stuff IMO
 
11:50 PM
Yay, @RepWhoringPeeHaa is here!
 
:D
 
moar beerz
while ($alive) $beers++;
 
Not for me :( I've just finished the internet and I''m going to take a shower and start thiking about the upcoming weekday.
I hate those
 
@DaveRandom BeerOutOfBoundsException
 
later all
 
@PeeHaa see ya
 
@PeeHaa You've finished the entire internet? That must have been a long day
@PeeHaa Nighty night
 
11:56 PM
@WesleyMurch Good Guy Wesley
 
What the hell is a CW answer?
 
Community Wiki. You don't get rep and anyone can edit it.
 
@WesleyMurch I think keep that one, it's not completely useless to others despite being a little rtfm
 
11:57 PM
/me is going to knuckle down an finish this god damn build script
 
@DaveRandom for yesterday!
 
Shit that reminds me I have a project due tomorrow, see yall later.
 
jk
@WesleyMurch see ya
 
too much SO not enough IRL
 
LOL
 
11:59 PM
RL sucks, SO ftw.
 

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