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12:41 AM
@joran ;) thank you it means a lot to me
 
 
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4:18 AM
@joran That's why I'm hanging around here too. And because I usually add too much noise in the other room.
As owner of the room, I am guessing you have to commit for that reason too. Or... what happens if an owner abandons their babies?
 
4:52 AM
@AnandaMahto With that possibility, perhaps there should be lots of owners
 
@shirleywu Are you nominating yourself? Joran, you have my vote (if this is a democratic system) ;)
 
5:17 AM
Some more owners is probably a good idea. But I'll have to sleep on it, cause it's time for bed.
 
@joran, but I just got up!
 
@AnandaMahto Aren't you in India? The most direct route between us may well very be directly through the North Pole.
Putting us almost literally on opposite sides of the globe.
 
Yeah. We're 12.5 hours apart in time.
(from Montana)
I've been up for a few hours, by the way. You've got a kiddo. You know they don't let you sleep in, especially on weekends.
 
It gets better: Mom is gone for the weekend, skiing with an old friend.
 
How old is your little one?
 
5:24 AM
Almost 15 months.
 
That's not too bad then.
At a fun age, and not too belligerent like he'll get in another half year or so.
;)
 
Yeah, his sleeping has improved a lot. I'm looking forward to him really being able to talk to me, but then, I've already learned that those milestones you look forward too are always double-edged swords.
Alright, going to bed for real now!
 
My 2.25 year old daughter is learning Tamil from our nanny and English from us. She has already figured out that the nanny doesn't understand English, so uses English with her. I'm dreading the day that she realizes that neither of her parents understand Tamil and start using it against us!
Ok. Good night!
 
@AnandaMahto I wouldn't do that! I am just a noob with 73 rep :o
 
@shirleywu Look at the rep difference between Roman and Dirk. I don't think the decision of room ownership is based on rep, but rather, a shared vision of what the room should be about, and a willingness to undertake management responsibilities when things get out of hand.
 
5:40 AM
@AnandaMahto anyone over 1k seems like pro to me. I would be honored to help, but I really don't know a single thing about R
 
6:34 AM
@shirleywu Just to be clear, I'm not equating you with Roman or creating a direct analogy :) As can be seen from Roman's profile, he's been blogging on R for a few years now, and he's been here on SO for a similar period. But, at one point, he also only had 73 rep.
With respect to not knowing "a single thing about R", I can't remember how I ended up at SO, but most of what I've learned about R, I've learned from here. From people like @Andrie, who's popping his head in here as a silent observer ;)
 
Good morning
 
Good morning.
@Andrie, ready for your new job?
 
Almost
 
Good morning.
 
Yesterday was my last day at the previous client. I still have to wind down my engagement with one of my clients before I start at Revolution in a week's time.
 
6:40 AM
@agstudy Actually afternoon for me. Has anyone plotted the locations of SO's R users to see how we're distributed across the globe?
 
@AnandaMahto good afternoon so! I think the majority are in the US.
 
@agstudy Are you? You wrote good morning....
@Andrie Revolution's currently only in the States, right? Or do they have international offices already?
 
I am in France. it is 07:43
 
Oh. Singapore too.
 
@AnandaMahto We are opening the first International office in London.
We have 3 people: MD, head of sales and I
 
6:44 AM
Revolution looks as a promising company!
 
There are a few of us outside the States. I think we could fill in a family wagon.
 
I was just going to ask if you'll be in an office by yourself.
 
And yes, there are 2 developers in Singapore
Pretty much!
 
Andrie, and what about France? I sent an email to ask them about positions in Europe.
but no answer..
 
@agstudy Not yet, but we have ambitious plans to grow in Europe. I am sure we will open new office in Europe in due course, as we sign up new clients.
Where in France are you?
 
6:51 AM
Paris
 
Nice
I'll have to find an excuse to visit
 
your are welcom :)
Andrie , you work in R revolution?
 
it seems to me there are a decent number of paRticipants from Europe.
But maybe that's just because we're online at similar times.
 
@agstudy I start there in 10 days.
 
unfortunatlty, In France SO is not very known! at least by recruiters.
 
6:54 AM
@AnandaMahto Five of us right here.
 
I will head up Professional Services for Europe.
 
@agstudy Do you think it's the language barrier?
 
no! the proof is me! my english is very bad :)
 
Hee hee.
@agstudy Dude, you're like halfway to Epic.
(If you are a dude)
 
it is a mentality problem! SO is out of the box for people here. but it starts to be known.
 
6:57 AM
I try to link to SO on every occasion. Haven't seen many people post to it, though. There was a guy, but he hasn't posted in a while.
 
I am dude!
@AnandaMahto where are you?
 
Chennai (Madras) in Tamil Nadu, India.
 
ah great ! What about R community in India?
 
None around me :(
India is mostly SPSS land.
People love to put SPSS on their resumes, even if all they know how to do is import an Excel sheet.
 
I think in France SAS is mostly, but R is growing in finance, not in insurance!
and bio-stats of course!
 
7:05 AM
Hmm. I'm looking at my history on SO, trying to figure out how I ended up here to begin with. 4 out of 10 of my first R answers were to do with reshape. I must have been helping my wife with her panel data at that point :)
 
:) you are Mister reshape now!
 
Even after a year, I'm still not totally comfortable asking questions. For one of my few questions, @Andrie politely told me to RTFM, which I had already done, but didn't (and still don't quite) understand. (Don't worry, I'm not blaming him for my lack of asking questions).
Do one thing and do it well, right?
My next target is a bronze aggregate badge.
I have high goals. Seriously.
 
@AnandaMahto I am quite sure I didn't do that.
I would have told you impolitely to RTFM
 
You were polite.
Read ?RNG to get most of your answers — Andrie Jun 6 '12 at 8:38
 
I think that R-SO people are more polite ans serious than the mean of SO users.
 
7:09 AM
Anyway, I'm off to lunch now. au revoir!
 
@AnandaMahto I love the way you purposefully capitalize R
 
maybe because they are not just programmers (mathematics background)
 
see you!
 
I am coming in SO to learn R.
 
My first question was about a small project I did for a colleague of mine.
 
7:11 AM
I really don't get the manual at times:/
 
Which I never finished.
@shirleywu that's normal. It takes time to get into all the phrases and concepts.
 
@RomanLuštrik You are very kind
 
It's just an observation. I went through the exactly the same patch of forest myself.
Luckily after posting to R-help mailing list, a little helper elf was added to my gtalk list of users - Joris.
 
This reminds me, I favorited some youtube video on R tutorial last night. I ought to start from the beginning
 
After I discovered SO, I slowly lured him in, too.
 
7:13 AM
good work!
 
Any book or free online resource has an "R primer". I started with those.
 
I am so glad I come to SO
@RomanLuštrik Thanks again :D
 
I think I learned about the loops in Matloff. heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/R/RProg.pdf
If you go systematically through this list, you should be pretty well equipped. :) stackoverflow.com/tags/r/info
 
Thanks! :D
 
Once you hit performance issues, be sure to read The R Inferno by Patrick Burns.
And for everything else, there's SO. :)
 
7:16 AM
my first target was to get the ggplot2 badge! I read hadley phd!
 
What's his PhD about?
 
I still have to finish some projects that I have been struggling with (they are already past the due date), so I may still have to ask questions.
 
about ggplot2:)
he explains the concept of plot grammar
gving some examples..(collections oh his articles in fact )
then R graphics of Paul Murrel( bless him) is really a great book!
 
It sounds like I need the book, though I may be too much of a beginner to read books that you guys read
 
I discover that when you are comfortable with the grid package, you will be comfortable with all R graphics packages(base, lattice,ggplot2,..)
 
7:24 AM
is it me or do you guys see 歡迎參與/欢迎参与 in the page for all rooms? There must have been a lot of Chinese on SO then
 
If you want books, then I recommend amazon.com/R-Dummies-Joris-Meys/dp/1119962846 :)
I see that too.
 
I am more of an eBay fan :) Always trying to get the lowest price
Oh. So there is a lot of Chinese.
Wait R for Dummies?
I searched for that last time and it didn't show!
which is why I shouldn't rely on ebay
 
It's too new to be on ebay
Apparently it's a good book.
Ask @RomanLuštrik
 
I can't stay awake if I am not in front of a computer. But if Roman is a success example then I would buy it :D
 
I rely on bookdepository.com for my books.
Andrie and Joris made me into a man I am.
Wait, that didn't come out right.
 
7:35 AM
:D
are most people here males?
 
I think so, yes.
Yet there's a lot of fondness for ponies and unicorns. So that kind of compensates.
 
lol
 
7:48 AM
@RomanLuštrik Do you get a commission?
 
Not that I know of.
I read it and I think it's a great primer for someone completely new to R.
 
My NGO-worker salary doesn't allow me the financial flexibility to purchase that book. I've been patiently waiting on the author to not be too busy and send me a copy, but I don't think it's going to happen (@shirleywu, by the way, an author is among us). And, if I get this new job, then my NGO-worker salary won't work as an excuse anymore.
@shirleywu, Quick! Answer: stackoverflow.com/questions/15172112/…
 
8:04 AM
oh! hee hee thanks!!
 
@shirleywu There you go. You're almost at 100 rep already.
And you're showing that by providing answers as well as asking questions, you're not just being a "vampire" or expecting others to answer questions for you. That's the kind of behavior that, over time, can get you an entry pass to the R meta room.
 
@AnandaMahto I hope so.
Yes, I won't be a vampire.
:D
 
8:20 AM
Here's another one I am sure you can answer: stackoverflow.com/questions/15172356/…
 
Aren't I being a vampire by sucking easy questions that you find?
 
@shirleywu I'm just helping you build rep!
I'm not giving you the answer--just giving you the questions to start building your "portfolio" here.
You taking it?
 
@AnandaMahto >< thank you. But I am going to disappoint you--I have to log off soon as my roommate is going to sleep. I am so sorry
Thank you so much though!
 
@shirleywu No problem. Get a browser addon like New Q! (chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/new-q/…) and add the R tag. Then, when new questions are added, you get a little pop-up notification. If anything easy pops up, go ahead and grab it!
Later, when you're more comfortable, you can tackle some of the more difficult questions.
 
Did somebody ask for the locations of top users?
Well, I wrote a query. Find the answer here:
 
8:33 AM
@AnandaMahto thanks + done! Good night! :D
@Andrie after this I really gotta go... But one of the people is from my home town. Are you telling me to stalk him? lol
 
@Andrie Nice. After I'm done editing this report on minor millets consumption in rural India, maybe I'll do some location matches and try to plot it.
 
@AnandaMahto Yes, I'd like to do the same.
But have to run now.
Literally.
 
With your dog?
 
No, the dogs are rubbish runners
 
OK. Run.
But they are beauts!
@GavinSimpson needs to update his profile. He's moved already, right?
 
 
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11:25 AM
@AnandaMahto All done, using BatchGeo:
 
Seriously. In a populous country like India that is supposed to be teeming with programmers, I'm all alone in Chennai?
Anyone want to move here?
I take it, then that your run left you energized and enthusiastic.
 
I have a friend who's crazy about India. She's finishing her PhD in Statistics. But she needs a high paying job to afford a comfortable lifestyle. She's quite picky about that.
 
@RomanLuštrik Define "high paying" and specify where.
Actually, if you really want a job here, the Indian government requires that you are making at least US $25,000 per year.
As I am currently with an NGO making peanuts, they consider me to be a "volunteer"
 
Enough to not worry about money. That's why she's more confined to developing countries, I guess.
BTW, I found this interesting. npr.org/blogs/health/2013/02/24/172688806/…
Not R related, but concerns almost every R programmer. In a way, it's programming related. :)
 
If your friend wants any advice, let me know. What type of work would she want to do? It's actually not too difficult to get a good-paying job here with decent perks, and though the amount might seem low, it can go a long way here.
 
11:41 AM
@AnandaMahto To be fair, the query only includes rep from answers, not asking questions.
 
A visualization wish: what countries are questions and answers from?
 
@RomanLuštrik Which part? It's a pretty big place ;)
 
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure. I think she mentioned "Ashram" a lot. I tried searching google maps for that but I noticed there's a few places with that word in its name.
You must be a heretic in your spare time! :D
 
Oh no. "Ashram" is a very common word.
Basically a "spiritual place" that you might do yoga, meditation, and so on.
 
11:49 AM
:)
 
@thelatemail There you go.
If she's in Tamil Nadu, then it's probably the Sri Aurobindo Ashram in Pondicherry, but my psychic powers are not cooperating at the moment.
 
@AnandaMahto I hope to visit the Krishnamacharya Yoga Mandiram in the next few years.
 
That's in Chennai, I think, right?
 
Yes.
 
I just looked up exactly where it was. I've heard the name before. It's a bit on the south-side of the city. Nice part of the city, from what I remember.
 
 
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4:59 PM
I think there is confusion about what the OP is looking for in this question: stackoverflow.com/q/15168090/1270695 (Well, I'm not confused, but it seems like several others are).
 
 
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6:10 PM
read.so <- function(sep = "", header = TRUE) {
  suppressWarnings(
    read.table(text = gsub("^#", "", readLines("clipboard")),
               header = header, stringsAsFactors = FALSE,
               sep = sep))
}
My totally silly function-of-the-day.
Copy-and-paste from SO into your R session.
And, with that, good night!
 
7:11 PM
good night!
 
Cheers!
 
:D
 
 
5 hours later…
11:52 PM
@AnandaMahto Ah, thanks a lot, I wanted to write one like this for some times. Added to my personal package :)
 

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