« first day (2555 days earlier)      last day (1594 days later) » 

6:07 AM
Hi all
 
 
2 hours later…
7:40 AM
@LynnCrumbling This is such bull... like football where you don't count scores and everyone gets a medal in the end.
 
 
2 hours later…
10:01 AM
Morning
 
10:13 AM
Hey Alex
 
Hi Xaml
 
How are you? :-)
 
Doing all right. How about you?
 
10:26 AM
Not bad, enjoying Friday before weekend LOL, You?
 
Same. Plugging away at monster MVC project
 
Is it coming together? You have been on it for a while now?
 
2.5+ years
Yeah, it's coming together. But we're frustrated by the poor db design
And lots of other choices made by others. No malice on their part; just didn't know good practices
Also, we should have used ng/Vue early on
 
Ah, something that I have been exposed to as well, that's for the db part. I have not yet worked on a MVC app with any framework in it apart from BS LOL
Are you anywhere near of completion?
 
Yup, that framework is universal to all apps, it seems :)
Good question
We keep uncovering missed requirements
In other words, req gathering never really happened
 
10:40 AM
That's usually the case with legacy projects.
 
We were brought on board with one purpose and then they changed our role as the proj progressed
 
We are on the app that was ported from Excel!
 
This app was meant to replace an ancient vendor system
And from the get-go, it was a mess
No management of resources or goals
 
Good job you're there then :-)
 
Thanks!
A few of us are working hard to save the proj from sinking into the depths of managerial incompetence :D
Though no desire here to be a manager. Just let me develop
 
10:45 AM
I think most of devs don't want to progress because we would stop coding! Something I can't do :-)
 
Same here. Coding/learning new tech makes it all worthwhile
 
 
1 hour later…
12:22 PM
@Markus Yep, I'm hoping it goes away permanently
'morning all
 
I mean if we continue that path, why should we have up? isn't that offencive to those who doesn't get as many up votes?
 
12:53 PM
Those folks will be called "up-vote challenged"
We'll never say they posted a bad question
Nor will we call them help vampires
We'll call them "help deficient"
 
 
1 hour later…
2:06 PM
I actually think its an interesting test in the opposite direction. How many voters are influenced (positively or negatively) by the existence of a negative score?
Will they downvote more (possibly). Less? (seems unlikely)
Remember, its just an experiment. It will go away in a few days
 
Good point
And good morning, Bradley
 
he gets a 'good morning', and I don't? sheesh <grin>
 
Sorry, you slipped in earlier
 
hahah
 
Good morning, Lynn
 
2:09 PM
:D Good morning (both of you)
 
slippery like that
 
I know
 
Morning folks... off to the morning stand up.
 
Nice. Dang, I miss those
Haven't been on an agile team for 6 years
 
that's too bad
 
2:13 PM
Ahh, my days in Israel. Miss those
 
Happy Birthday a day late?!?!?!?!
 
The room appreciates all birthday wishes :)
Hi biggi
We haven't taken the balloons and decorations down or cleaned up from the party.
Some dip and chips left over
 
:D
 
2:47 PM
I'll bring brisket
Have one on the smoker atm actually
Smoking it now then going to have part for dinner and then get part of it ready for brisket chili for Halloween. Can you believe I invited Kevin over for dinner and he said no!!!
 
drools
Okay, Kcvin is banned for a day for refusing brisket chilli at biggi's
 
@Kcvin see what you did
 
3:11 PM
Lynn would you like to come for Halloween? :)
Open invitation for all of the room
XD
 
Love poor Zoidberg
Though final season did him justice
Thanks, biggi
 
^^ I love the idea, but I think the wife already has plans for us
 
Yea, we're taking our 3 year old around and the wife is going to stay back with the little one and pass out candy.
Have some coworkers and what not coming over
 
A git question... does anyone here use a gui tool for git other than the Git Gui? (<-- that sounds weird!)
Friend saw Sourcetree
 
hey, it's beautiful that you are "real life friends" and meet physically...
I use Sourcetree and I appreciate it
 
3:21 PM
I highly doubt any of us have actually met up haha
Minus Mav and Rudi
 
ah ok me stupid, I thought you were serious :-)
 
I mean I am halfway, if anyone wants to drive to Kentucky for Halloween you're more than welcome.
However, that's an offer that I highly doubt anyone is going to take me up on haha
 
I can offer you some typical Italian food, but you should come to Milan
 
My boss is about to head to Italy next week
I'm headed to Texas myself
 
where is he going?
if he's coming to Milan, he can't miss Bergamo, just 30 km from here
 
3:22 PM
@grandangelo Thanks
 
Milan? Don't tempt me ;) The wife and I are definitely thinking about a European vacation in the next couple years - hopefully before kids.
 
da**, I missed the window to get rid of that image. Guess I should move it to trash so mav doesn't need to do that again :)
 
Alex, I use Visual studio's git extension, have used sourcetree and GitKraken before
Also VS code
 
@grandangelo Bologna
 
And Kentucky - that does seem like a halfway point for the easterners. And good whiskey.
 
3:23 PM
I have lots in my garage :)
 
A friend saw Fork
 
Man, that's only 8h 16m away
tempting.
 
@Zarenor let me know if you come in north of Italy, I can't let you sleep at my home, but I can for sure give you some suggestions
if you come in Milan, for sure we can eat something togheter
 
@LynnCrumbling you can get almost direct flights to SDF or CVG iirc :)
 
3:25 PM
Bologna is beautiful, but don't come in summer, terrible hot
to be true, everything here is beautiful.. lot of medieval stuff more or less in all of the major cities
 
@grandangelo I'll keep it in mind. We love local suggestions when we travel!
 
sure... less than two hours from Milan, you can see Vigevano, Bergamo, Mantova, Varese... You should plan two weeks at least only here :-)
 
@LynnCrumbling Yea it's only a 3 hour flight with an hour layover in Washington XD
 
both 3+ hours
 
Fairly cheap flight tho
 
3:27 PM
I'd drive
 
good guys enjoy life, I'm leaving for weekend
 
the car is just gas money :)
you too @grandangelo
 
I'm showing $186 round trip tho
 
enjoy :)
 
For flying
 
3:28 PM
Then I'd have to rent a car down there
 
Nah, I'd come get ya
 
and pay for parking while my car sits at an airport
hah
Someday
I need to get a pic of my house at night
 
if you take Friday off then it'd work
 
keep meaning to throw it up on slack
got the halloween thing going on
 
Halloween is on a Thursday this year
 
3:29 PM
that's weird
even weirder will be the next 3 years
 
So yea just take Friday off and come on down. We have a spare room too
Bring the kids. Our neighboorhood has TONs of houses. It's where literally the whole town trick or treats
Lynn: shot you something on slack too. I think you'll really really like it. It's retro :)
 
4:25 PM
@BradleyDotNET Thanks. All those tools are solid
 
no problem
Note that SourceTree has had memory leak type issues in the past and GitKraken isn't free for all uses
I use the VS/VSCode extensions most of the time
 
Hmm. Need to get that extension for VS, where I spend my life in these days!
Is it Git Tools 2019?
Or GitExtensions?
Wow, that's confusing
 
errr…. it should be built in
might need the "GitHub Extension for Visual Studio"
but I think you get basic support out of the box anymore
should be in Team Explorer
 
Yeah, we do
But the tagging is semi-working, maybe on purpose. It creates the branch locally but won't push it up unless we do git push --tags in shell
 
4:40 PM
huh, I never have needed to deal with tags
but that sounds like par for the course
 
What we're realizing: doing all of it in git bash. We learn what it's doing
Switching branches does a checkout
 
if you want extra flags you have to drop into a shell...
right
 
^ exactly
 
ie… git fetch --prune
 
Yes, all the extra, less common stuff
 
4:42 PM
which, for me, I'm fine with, especially since I have an integrated shell with VS code
and so I've learned a lot of the CLI stuff
its an acquired taste though
 
Can we use git bash easily in VS Pro?
Or invoke it, I mean
 
Unfortunately not
I seem to remember there is one integrated shell extension
you might give it a try
or just have a powershell window open
 
5:07 PM
Didn't know you could use PS to do that
Thanks
 
You can, more or less, use PS to do anything cmd can
 
5:22 PM
Nice
 

« first day (2555 days earlier)      last day (1594 days later) »