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12:12 AM
Hmm, good plan
 
12:41 AM
Hello everyone, what is up
 
hello
up is ^ :P
 
I see
How are you doing?
 
doing what?
:P
 
How are you turning my questions against me?
hehe
 
haha sorry
 
12:48 AM
So are you planning on participating in the CodeChef competition tomorrow?
 
uh
no
what's that
 
It is a global online programming competition
mostly for educational purposes because there are few winners
its fun
 
hmm ok
ill consider it
are you?
 
I am planning on it
I have never then their short comps before
 
1:19 AM
@DizzyCode I won because I wasn't here
Anyone used Heroku?
 
@SteveDeRienzo Welcome to the Teenage Programmers Chatroom :) Please remember to follow this chatroom's rules, but most importantly, remember to have fun :D
 
anyone here?
 
hey drake, you familiar with NSUserDefaults with swift?
 
No, sorry
 
1:25 AM
dang..
hmm parse?
 
I'm a web developer so I probably can't help, sorry
and have no idea what parse is
 
aww gotcha...ok... no worries!!
 
@DJMcMayhem Welcome to the Teenage Programmers Chatroom :) Please remember to follow this chatroom's rules, but most importantly, remember to have fun :D
 
Hi!
 
1:29 AM
So if there's no age restriction, why is it called "Teenage Programmers Chatroom"?
 
Nobody else will talk with us
So we stew in here alone
 
1:40 AM
we're the rebels
 
yes
getting started with heroku
it's amazing
 
1:59 AM
@Firedrake969 I've used it
//alive
 
@michaelpri Indeed :D
 
2:18 AM
@michaelpri with what language?
 
2:38 AM
@Firedrake969 Rails
 
3:17 AM
Anyone wanna join my startup? It's called Headnovel and it's gonna be the next Facebook :P
 
3:34 AM
Does anyone here use iVim?
 
3:50 AM
Vim*
 
4:23 AM
@michaelpri for real?
 
4:40 AM
@Ahmad Lol, no. I'd get the pants sued off of me :D
 
 
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12:40 PM
@michaelpri I just can't, but please explain me what it's about :P
 
1:17 PM
@michaelpri I do.
@michaelpri I would if it was a startup with a good idea. I would never like to join something that turns out to be as crappy as Facebook.
 
Uni, have you used Heroku?
 
What with it?
 
Anything
I have some questions about it that I can't find the answers to
 
I'm not your help desk.
 
Never thought you were.
 
1:25 PM
I'm just reminding you.
 
I know.
 
2:09 PM
@Unihedron Do you use the command line version or so you usea GUI?
 
@michaelpri Of course the command.
 
@Switch Welcome to the Teenage Programmers Chatroom :) Please remember to follow this chatroom's rules, but most importantly, remember to have fun :D
 
Hmm, I tried out using the command line but I didn't like it that much
 
user4183195
@Skynet thanx
 
user4183195
@Skynet thanx
 
2:19 PM
Doing everything in the terminal is the opposite of unlikeable.
 
2:29 PM
@Unihedron Are there easy ways to switch between files?
 
@michaelpri Yes.
 
I'll probably give it a better try. I gotta head out now though, so cya o/
 
3:04 PM
I've decided.
I'm going to change my [gr]avatar.
 
I think I might actually be a genius now...
 
Yes! Oratio Accounts actually works :D
 
3:28 PM
@Unihedron Got a minute? Could you do @JacobGray's thing?
 
Grrr...
no
 
@michaelpri Tell us about your genius idea.
 
3:49 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka Headnovel isn't my actual idea, but I do have an actual idea. I'll tell you about in about 3-4 hours, I have to go paint right now
 
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Q: Insert at any position in java.util.List

fiskebenAccording to the docs you can insert objects an any position in a List: The user of this interface has precise control over where in the list each element is inserted. (source: http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/List.html) But the following program fails with an IndexOu...

no one calls jon skeet lame...
 
hah
 
4:07 PM
"What's my problem?" "Programming." Some people should just stay away from programming.
inb4 rant
@GabrielTomitsuka It's in progress.
 
Nice :D
 
Doesn't help that I only have 24 hours a day.
 
Yes, I know and that's not a problem :)
I'm in a good mood
 
Hey, you know what?
 
4:11 PM
I recalled of how cream soda goes well with milk, so I tried other blends of milk with soft drinks.
Fanta with milk is an absolute killer.
Try it.
 
Okay...
 
I have to try that
 
I'll try
 
I don't feel too well from all the experimenting, but it's all for science.
 
Why is Travis CI so freaking expensive?
 
4:14 PM
Someone has to keep their infrastructure alive. In their case, it's the users who bother paying.
 
@Unihedron I don't think I bother paying $130/month. I think I'll try appveyor.com, even though it's Windows-based.
$19/month is decent
 
I think Sam uses that for deploying CE.Net.
 
Just created an account :)
But I'll have to change my .travis.yml
 
@Harish Welcome to the Teenage Programmers Chatroom :) Please remember to follow this chatroom's rules, but most importantly, remember to have fun :D
 
what exactly do you need it for?
because there are open source alternatives
Buildbot for example
very limited, but it's okay
 
4:19 PM
@Ahmad Like deploying 12 closed-source projects
 
Buildbot can do that
 
Hmm... I'll check all alternatives.
 
You can grab student's pack from Github, AFAIK it includes Travis CI
 
we have Buildbot set up to listen to changes on our Github
 
4:20 PM
@Luke I already have it, but it doesn't take org repos.
 
every time it detects a release tag it compiles the applications
and deploys them to our servers
Hm. There's a talk from Julia Reda about copyright laws in the EU at this conference.
Ima check that out
I don't really like the Pirate Party though, but then again I don't really like any political party
 
But what's the fun about learning about copyright?
 
It's a bit more interesting than that:
 
There doesn't seem to be many supporters.
 
4:35 PM
nah, the room is full
 
Screw automation, I'm running this myself until there's money coming in.
@Unihedron Do we need a /teapot route than returns "HTTP 418 - I'm a teapot"?
 
4:50 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka I don't know, do we?
 
@Unihedron I don't know, but we need at least one easter egg.
 
That's too obscure to be an easter egg.
 
@scraturYO Welcome to the Teenage Programmers Chatroom :) Please remember to follow this chatroom's rules, but most importantly, remember to have fun :D
 
I RULE, IT WORKS AND I'M FREAKING OUT WOOOOOOOOH
 
cool
Django migrations can be frustrating :L
 
I don't get why Travis' automated tests don't pass, but when I run npm test, they do...
 
5:16 PM
(\_/)
(0.0)
(___)o
 
@Unihedron is the java chat bot up an running yet?
 
@TheWrenchintheSystem No.
 
what about the node chat bot
 
has any progress been made?
on the java one that is
 
5:17 PM
@TheWrenchintheSystem Yes.
 
wait there's a java and node chat bot?
for SO???
i've been missing out
 
@DizzyCode Yes.
 
@Unihedron are the updates on github
 
It's not like you have much rep to lose.
@TheWrenchintheSystem No.
 
sad
could you push it up there
 
5:18 PM
@TheWrenchintheSystem Yes but nah.
 
gtg, mom's calling
 
Hey Uni, how's it going?
 
@TristanWiley Pretty good, thanks!
Keeping busy and happy, as usual.
 
That's good!
 
5:21 PM
Thank God!
 
Work on any projects lately?
 
And still haven't gotten around to sleeping BEFORE midnight. It's 1:21 am.
@TristanWiley Definitely!
Leading a side project myself, and contributing to a few
 
@Unihedron How many, exactly?
 
Ah, yeah I usually go to sleep around midnight or later
 
@Unihedron do you play agar.io
 
5:22 PM
you mean agor.io
 
@GabrielTomitsuka "Many" is the number I'll give you, since most of them are private.
 
@TheWrenchintheSystem No, but I do use agor.io.
 
what's that?
 
dude im ranked -1 in agor.io
 
5:22 PM
agar.io was fun when it first launched, but with all the new modes I lost the point playing.
 
best game ever
its agar.io with better sound effects
 
agor.io is really creepy
 
agor.io rules
 
agor.io god damn i went 40k last thursday
 
@Unihedron Why does it matter? The number of projects isn't secret, their content is.
 
5:23 PM
lol
\o/
 
@GabrielTomitsuka Then, 7.
8 including yours (oratio)
 
@TheWrenchintheSystem that's the point :D
 
yeah...hilarius
 
@TheWrenchintheSystem ROFL did you visit it?
 
yes
I HATE TROLLERS
 
5:24 PM
@TristanWiley cheers
 
speaking of which, I'm going to visit agar.io
 
hope i don't make a typo... :P
 
truu
 
CREEPY PASTA
gtg
 
5:25 PM
Well, I'm going to rest.
See you later.
 
@Unihedron I'll tell you all about it
when I see you again
i cri everytim
i'll see myself out now
 
5:45 PM
hello everybody
 
6:05 PM
@ctomek Welcome to the Teenage Programmers Chatroom :) Please remember to follow this chatroom's rules, but most importantly, remember to have fun :D
 
6:56 PM
@RishavKundu Welcome to the Teenage Programmers Chatroom :) Please remember to follow this chatroom's rules, but most importantly, remember to have fun :D
 
@unihedron are you the unihedron of lichess? O.o :p
 
@RishavKundu If you mean /@/Unihedron on Lichess, then yes.
 
@RishavKundu Hey! New here?
 
yeah just talking a look
*taking
xD
 
What languages do you code?
 
7:07 PM
um, python and java
and html
webdev ❤
what about you guys?
 
Javascript/Node, Objective-C, C++ and a tiny bit HTML/CSS
Check my projects: github.com/gtomitsuka
 
i think you meant programs? :3
 
Oops :P
 
Java/Android, learning Kotlin, C++ (but rarely ever use it), a bit of HTML/CSS/JS/PHP (the necessary parts)
 
why does nobody do python?
such a sexy language
 
7:14 PM
wanted to, but figured out PHP would be faster to deploy. When I have more time, I intended on leaning it
looks clean and organized, but I have something against colons, not sure what
 
@luke haha
 
@RishavKundu Yep. How did you know me?
 
@Unihedron i play on lichess
*try to play
end up losing miserable most of the time :p
 
Are you one of the scrubs I regularly crush? :D
That's a joke, of course.
 
probably not, cuz i dont play bullet :')
 
7:22 PM
Hey, I play all variants too.
 
yeah, i dont play much rated
theres only so low you can go
im 1200 currently lol
i suck
 
@RishavKundu Me too
 
I was ~800 once.
You can find some of my old games via the search feature.
It's a cheesy advice, but practice.
 
@unihedron what do you code in?
 
It's hard to list all I code with the mobile keyboard.
 
7:26 PM
its nice to know so many "teenage programmers" play on lichess xD
 
For the record, I'm the first. I introduced people in the SO Tavern and the MSE Tavern to proper chess.
Java, cpp, C#, ObjC, Lisp, Swift, JS (client side), Node, Scala, Python, Ruby, Flash (ded), ActionScript
Lua
 
I wonder how many typos that took?
and how many autocorrect-doh moments
 
Wait, I'm not done.
 
oh lol
 
Grrr...
 
7:31 PM
Matlab, Bash, PHP, Pascal, Groovy, D, F#, ><>, Go
 
you make me look like a caveman :|
 
For your information, don't try to compare anything with me, that's pointless.
 
Not comparing hehe
 
Well, I can finally rest in peace. It seems my parents are finally done packing up. It was really loud.
I'm going to sleep. See you around.
cold glare
 
@RishavKundu I do Python
 
7:41 PM
Lets do Python
its the best thing
 
yes lets
do you do Django?
 
no i do beautifulsoup, and captcha breaking ;)
 
I shall pretend I know what those are
 
web scraping
using python to scrape data from the web
 
Ah
I do webapps
 
7:44 PM
ooo, i made a silly app using python once
not a webapp
a mac one
 
ah
macs are amazing for my type of development
 
why is that so? arent webapps supposed to be kinda universal?
 
Tools-wise, I mean.
kitematic and docker-compose are simply amazing to me
 
hm, i shall pretend i have heard of those, or know what they do :3
 
Basically VMs for this decade.
Creates one VM and makes "containers" for them so you can test in an isolated environment
 
7:49 PM
wow, the kitematic webpage is awesome
brilliant design
 
Yeah
What os do you use?
 
i have a mac currently
earlier ubuntu
and before that win8
 
@RishavKundu Did you succeed breaking the reCAPTCHA 2.0 i.e. noCAPTCHA?
 
@RishavKundu this room is very competitive, btw
 
@Gabriel man those are made by google :3
@Firedrake what do you mean?
 
7:51 PM
@RishavKundu comparing our skills (at least some of us)
 
opencv and tesseract can do wonders with most captchas though
 
if you ever break something of Google's, they pay you lots
if you break something of Apple's, you get sued.
 
@firedrake the money aint important
 
@Firedrake969 It's nearly impossible to break reCAPTCHA 2.0.
 
@firedrake nice name btw
 
7:52 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka And that's a good thing
@RishavKundu Thanks
 
They track your mouse movements, so if you do a zig-zag or a straight line they'll recognize you're a bot, if you click the button for a suspicious amount of time they'll think you're a bot, and if they think you're a bot they send you to the second screen that needs an advanced CV system for breaking. And the image's quality is intentionally low so that most CV algorithms don't work.
 
google is _/_
_/_
wtf why does the right \ get stripped off?
_/\_
 
Oh, that's why they always think I'm a bot
 
the devs
obviously thought
that they were too good to have reCaptcha
 
Of course, we don't do things maliciously...
right
right?
 
7:55 PM
Like, take pizzas for an example. They'll use images that look a lot like pizzas but aren't, and even a human might do a false positive.
@RishavKundu This kind of captcha isn't easy, but finding patterns with CV and ML(+ color checks) isn't exactly impossible.
Also, the letters overlay the line, so the line is useless for many captcha breaking algorithms
They'll see it as one anyway
 
<- Loves Artificial Intelligence and watches lectures on the topic
 
homegrown with tess and cv bruh
 
You're cheating :P
 
anybody else use ubuntu pastebin, cuz pastebin.org is too ugly?
 
7:58 PM
They only have 10 captchas, why don't they use an automated captcha generation system?
@RishavKundu I use gist.github.com
 
I've never needed Gist
or pastebin
 
@gabriel is there a command line tool that posts to gists?
 
I use hastebin when I want pretty pastebin
or a dark one
 
cuz copy-paste is too mainstream
 
7:59 PM
I'm pretty sure you can use git clone and git push with Gists
 
Yeah you can
but not sure about pushing directly to a gist
 
EDIT: That captcha is extremely easy to solve.
Anyway, I DoSed a server once. (With the owner's permission)
 
Hey peeps
 
I asked him if his site was DoS protected, he said he didn't no
Answer was no.
 
@gabriel how would you propose to do it?
@gabriel and oh, theyre random alright
 
8:01 PM
@RishavKundu Actually, I freelanced on adding a few features to the project.
 
but some captchas are more likely than others :p
 
@RishavKundu So why the 10 gifs?
But still, the line doesn't even overlay the text
You can literally delete the other layers with simple CV.
 
@RishavKundu I do Python
 
liar
you do ruby
 
@gabriel this was actually their "protected version" xD
 
8:04 PM
xD
 
do you know what was their original?
 
@RishavKundu Oh, wait, the background doesn't change on refresh :|
 
@Firedrake969 I do both
 
well, they had a sort of ID they generated with each captcha
 
Rails > Django
 
8:05 PM
and the best thing
 
@michaelpri Did you test both extensively?
 
they didnt check for captcha re-use 😂
 
Nope, did you?
 
Nope
 
So i could solve one captcha by hand
 
8:05 PM
fair enough xD
 
and use that endlessly
 
I'm gonna try some Django eventually
 
What I do requires me to use Django so I may not get a change to try Rails for a while
 
What do you do?
 
IRL things for people
 
8:08 PM
I'm gonna be doing websites, hopefully a social media
 
anybody got experience with matplotlib here?
 
Nope
 
how bout any other graphing software?
if they exist that is
 
not really
 
8:12 PM
Nada
 
 
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11:09 PM
@TristanWiley if you get on anytime soon, I had some questions about Hack the North
 

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